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  Google Groups and spammers. dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-04-06 16:39 -0700
    Google Groups and spammers. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-06 18:02 -0700
      Google Groups and spammers. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-06 18:04 -0700
    Google Groups and spammers. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-06 18:03 -0700
    Re: Google Groups and spammers. Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 13:10 -0700
      Re: Google Groups and spammers. Ovské Bezvýjimeènì <obe@cwkawns.na> - 2018-04-07 20:19 +0000
        Re: Google Groups and spammers. Ovské Bezvýjimeènì <obe@cwkawns.na> - 2018-04-07 22:24 +0000
          Re: Google Groups and spammers. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-19 18:31 -0500
        Re: Google Groups and spammers. Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 08:04 +0100
      Re: Google Groups and spammers. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-10 11:43 +0200
        Re: Google Groups and spammers. Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-04-10 15:12 -0700
          Re: Google Groups and spammers. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-04-11 17:40 +0200

#455012 — Google Groups and spammers.

At some point soon, Google Groups will flag this newsgroup as being mostly spam, and all Google Groups access will be terminated. They have already done this with alt.sci.physics.

Rather that Google Groups actually detecting spam before posting, they rely on reports to kill the group entirely.

So when this happens, I will be gone from here, and I will not be able to report spam.  Not a big deal for anyone here.  Just thought I'd let you know, the abusers are removing my rights and access.

David A. Smith

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#455017

Would be beyond Terrible for the actual solution to GR ST to be not recognized, and labeled as Spam the gets the group shut down

https://photos.app.goo.gl/xw57hPoAoeWxALyV2

2 * 5^2 * 7 * 23 * 73 * 293339 / 54870469331 = pi

https://goo.gl/KPwJJr

2 * 7 * 73 * 293339 = the speed of light

https://goo.gl/8xaFdZ

Fractal

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#455019

Would be beyond Terrible for the actual solution to GR SR to be not recognized, and labeled as Spam the gets the group shut down 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/xw57hPoAoeWxALyV2 

2 * 5^2 * 7 * 23 * 73 * 293339 / 54870469331 = pi 

https://goo.gl/KPwJJr 

2 * 7 * 73 * 293339 = the speed of light 

https://goo.gl/8xaFdZ 

Fractal 

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#455018

And Ironic

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#455072

On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 1:39:33 PM UTC-10, dlzc wrote:
> At some point soon, Google Groups will flag this newsgroup as being mostly spam, and all Google Groups access will be terminated. They have already done this with alt.sci.physics.
> 
> Rather that Google Groups actually detecting spam before posting, they rely on reports to kill the group entirely.
> 
> So when this happens, I will be gone from here, and I will not be able to report spam.  Not a big deal for anyone here.  Just thought I'd let you know, the abusers are removing my rights and access.
> 
> David A. Smith

Hello David, my name is Alan
the retired engineer. The experiments which I hope your
team would consider are described in this posting to
sci.physics.relativity. I assume you are an astronomer
or explorer of that vacuum. With a humble plea, here is an

Experiment wish list for future science after 2018:
1 Evaluate how each proton has one electron paired with it, not zero, not unlimited.

2 Establish time as radiating from protons and neutrons only, or not.

3 Measure the size limits for any known galaxies.

4 Measure jets from black holes to find evidence of a neutron
jet in a time fountain.

5 Explore the inside of a proton as a negative infinity, a sky.

6 Discover that photons do not contain energy, only a length and time, 
a wave function fragment. Or photons can be independent of atoms energies.

7 Abandon the lumped functional general relativity and start using
particulate relativity. Protons and neutrons were unknown by
Einstein in 1915. We have the advantage.

8 Measure that electrons do not cause gravity.

See the links to my theories at the bottom of this U-234 essay

http://ferronuclear.blogspot.com/p/uranium.html

Alan Folmsbee

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#455074

Alan Folmsbee wrote:

>> David A. Smith
> 
> Hello David, my name is Alan the retired engineer. The experiments which
> I hope your team would consider are described in this posting to
> sci.physics.relativity. I assume you are an astronomer or explorer of
> that vacuum. With a humble plea, here is an

Hi Alan, nice to meet you. You guys, retired engineers, putted man on 
moon, those days. I am working on an arduino right now.

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#455084

Alan Folmsbee wrote:

> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 10:19:29 AM UTC-10, Ovské Bezvýjimeènì
> wrote:
>> Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>> 
>> >> David A. Smith
>> > 
>> > Hello David, my name is Alan the retired engineer. The experiments
>> > which I hope your team would consider are described in this posting
>> > to sci.physics.relativity. I assume you are an astronomer or explorer
>> > of that vacuum. With a humble plea, here is an
>> 
>> Hi Alan, nice to meet you. You guys, retired engineers, putted man on
>> moon, those days. I am working on an arduino right now.
> 
> Hi Ov,  The future of science is being written in time for you:
> https://impuremath.wordpress.com/

Thanks, my dear retired engineer friend. Me too I love moon landings. You 
cant drive an output by inputs in the future. Also doing recursive loops 
in PID controllers, the y_n[] is based on x_n-1[], which is in the past. 
Basics arduino, the most relativists areund here know nothing about.

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#456454

On 4/7/2018 5:24 PM, Ovské Bezvýjimeènì wrote:
> Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> 
>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 10:19:29 AM UTC-10, Ovské Bezvýjimeènì
>> wrote:
>>> Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>>
>>>>> David A. Smith
>>>>
>>>> Hello David, my name is Alan the retired engineer. The experiments
>>>> which I hope your team would consider are described in this posting
>>>> to sci.physics.relativity. I assume you are an astronomer or explorer
>>>> of that vacuum. With a humble plea, here is an
>>>
>>> Hi Alan, nice to meet you. You guys, retired engineers, putted man on
>>> moon, those days. I am working on an arduino right now.
>>
>> Hi Ov,  The future of science is being written in time for you:
>> https://impuremath.wordpress.com/
> 
> Thanks, my dear retired engineer friend. Me too I love moon landings. You 
> cant drive an output by inputs in the future. Also doing recursive loops 
> in PID controllers, the y_n[] is based on x_n-1[], which is in the past. 
> Basics arduino, the most relativists areund here know nothing about.
> 


Hi, checkout this guy's videos, they are good, he covers 5 other small
computers;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC6bG997Bc8

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#456277

>>> David A. Smith

Hi David,
Hope you get to see this, although i doubt you will.
Your original posting "Google Groups and spammers" has already 
disappeared from my server.

This happens regularly with my own posts too. So WHO DECIDES
to leave drug ads etc on sci.newsgroups and remove this sort of thingy eh!




Summary:
     1. The speed of light in intergalactic-space is slowing down.
     2. There was no "Big Bang"
     3. There was no "Inflation"
     4. The galaxies are not accelerating away from us.
     5. There is no "Dark Energy"



Searching for an alternative explanation of the Hubble Red Shifts, it 
occurred to me that if the speed of light is slowing down, then this 
will necessarily lead to increasing red-shift with increasing distance,
as observed by Hubble et. al., without any expansion at all.

Merely by assuming      dc = -K c dt ..................(1)
I was led to             c = c(0) e^-Kt ...............(2)
and on to               Red-Shift = e^-Kt - 1 .........(3)

     K ~= 10^-10 /year
     t = time in years

Only after starting the PHYSICS PRIZE thread, in which i was trying to 
enlist the help of sci.physics.relativity readers to obtain a more 
accurate value of K, did the obvious solution occur to me...........

                        K = H = Hubble's Constant
and                    t = -t  ( so times past become +ve)

which substituted in (3) gives:

             Red-Shift = e^Ht - 1 .........(4)

then for times which are small compared to 1/H (i.e. small compared
to the 'age of the universe'), we may use the approximation:
             e^x ~= 1 + x .................(5)

So for t << 1/H we have:

             Red-Shift = H * t ............(6)

which is of course the normal "Hubble's Law", valid only
for modest times into the past ( t < ~5 billion years).

As our telescopes manage to see further out into space, and therefore 
further back in time, we will find that the normal linear Hubble's Law 
expressed in equation(6), will have to be replaced by the more accurate
exponential form expressed in equation(4). This is indeed what is found
in observatories all around the world eh!

Conclusions:
     1. The speed of light in intergalactic-space is slowing down.
     2. There was no "Big Bang"
     3. There was no "Inflation"
     4. The galaxies are not accelerating away from us.
     5. There is no "Dark Energy"
********************************************************************

**********************************************************************
         A GOOD QUESTION

When light slows down by entering a more dense medium such as glass, or
water, the frequency stays the same and the WAVELENGTH REDUCES.

So how is it that when light slows down traveling across intergalactic 
space,the the WAVELENGTH INCREASES ?

good question!

when light slows down entering a more dense medium, the front of the 
wave train hits the more dense medium first. The front therefore slows 
before the rear of the wave train, resulting in the rear of the wave 
catching up to some extent with the front. Thus the wave train 
compresses and the WAVELENGTH REDUCES.

When light slows down in intergalactic space, on the other hand, there 
is no difference in the conditions at the front or back of the wave 
train. At any one time the front and back are indeed traveling at the 
same speed, and therefore the length of the wave train stays constant as 
it travels through intergalactic space.

So "How is it that the wavelength of light from distant galaxies is 
INCREASED ? " you might ask, and i would reply that it is NOT that light 
is stretched as it travels through intergalactic space, but rather that 
it was emitted with an increased wavelength, when the velocity of light 
was higher than it is now.

The frequency generated by any given atomic transition, even on distant 
galaxies many billions of years ago, is exactly the same as that on 
Earth today. The wavelength is proportional the the velocity of light AT 
THE TIME IT WAS EMITTED, and This increased wavelength is faithfully 
transmitted through space, where it is measured in our observatories.

keith stein

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#455397

Am 07.04.2018 um 22:10 schrieb Alan Folmsbee:
  ..
> Hello David, my name is Alan
> the retired engineer. The experiments which I hope your
> team would consider are described in this posting to
> sci.physics.relativity. I assume you are an astronomer
> or explorer of that vacuum. With a humble plea, here is an
>
> Experiment wish list for future science after 2018:
> 1 Evaluate how each proton has one electron paired with it, not zero, not unlimited.


I personally think, that an atom is 'one thing' and not composed from 
particles.

My alternative explanation is: an atom is a standing rotation wave.


> 2 Establish time as radiating from protons and neutrons only, or not.
Time behaves like kind of filter.

We are treating us as more or less as at rest. The imaginary movement is 
real, but unnoticed and called 'time'.

What stays with us in our 'time bubble' is called 'matter', what not is 
called 'radiation'.

IOW: matter is composed from 'timelike stable patterns'.

> 3 Measure the size limits for any known galaxies.
>
> 4 Measure jets from black holes to find evidence of a neutron
> jet in a time fountain.

The so called 'jets' are in fact the 'edge' of the light cone of that 
region, which we call 'black hole'.

Since time is relative, our 'time-bubble' seen from that black hole 
would have a jet, too, and would be a black hole (seen from there).



> 5 Explore the inside of a proton as a negative infinity, a sky.


Well, if time could have negative directions (in our view), then our 
world could be shrinking into infinity if seen from the 'other side' 
(time domain with opposite direction of time).



..

TH

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#455485

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 11:43:01 PM UTC-10, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 07.04.2018 um 22:10 schrieb Alan Folmsbee:
>   ..
> > Hello David, my name is Alan
> > the retired engineer. The experiments which I hope your
> > team would consider are described in this posting to
> > sci.physics.relativity. I assume you are an astronomer
> > or explorer of that vacuum. With a humble plea, here is an
> >
> > Experiment wish list for future science after 2018:
> > 1 Evaluate how each proton has one electron paired with it, not zero, not unlimited.
> 
> 
> I personally think, that an atom is 'one thing' and not composed from 
> particles.
> 
> My alternative explanation is: an atom is a standing rotation wave.
> 
> 
> > 2 Establish time as radiating from protons and neutrons only, or not.
> Time behaves like kind of filter.
> 
> We are treating us as more or less as at rest. The imaginary movement is 
> real, but unnoticed and called 'time'.
> 
> What stays with us in our 'time bubble' is called 'matter', what not is 
> called 'radiation'.
> 
> IOW: matter is composed from 'timelike stable patterns'.
> 
> > 3 Measure the size limits for any known galaxies.
> >
> > 4 Measure jets from black holes to find evidence of a neutron
> > jet in a time fountain.
> 
> The so called 'jets' are in fact the 'edge' of the light cone of that 
> region, which we call 'black hole'.
> 
> Since time is relative, our 'time-bubble' seen from that black hole 
> would have a jet, too, and would be a black hole (seen from there).
> 
> 
> 
> > 5 Explore the inside of a proton as a negative infinity, a sky.
> 
> 
> Well, if time could have negative directions (in our view), then our 
> world could be shrinking into infinity if seen from the 'other side' 
> (time domain with opposite direction of time).
> 
> 
> 
> ..
> 
> TH

Hello TH, I enjoyed your response to my imagined experiments.
Here is a set of new photo sketches of the 8 dimension universe idea.
https://impuremath.wordpress.com/contraspline/
Time departs from the proton in each hand drawn picture.
The electron uses a contra-spline pairing to the proton.
Experimentalists and explorers can go there.
AF

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#455537

Am 11.04.2018 um 00:12 schrieb Alan Folmsbee:
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 11:43:01 PM UTC-10, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 07.04.2018 um 22:10 schrieb Alan Folmsbee:
>>   ..
>>> Hello David, my name is Alan
>>> the retired engineer. The experiments which I hope your
>>> team would consider are described in this posting to
>>> sci.physics.relativity. I assume you are an astronomer
>>> or explorer of that vacuum. With a humble plea, here is an
>>>
>>> Experiment wish list for future science after 2018:
>>> 1 Evaluate how each proton has one electron paired with it, not zero, not unlimited.
>>
>>
>> I personally think, that an atom is 'one thing' and not composed from
>> particles.
>>
>> My alternative explanation is: an atom is a standing rotation wave.
>>
>>
>>> 2 Establish time as radiating from protons and neutrons only, or not.
>> Time behaves like kind of filter.
>>
>> We are treating us as more or less as at rest. The imaginary movement is
>> real, but unnoticed and called 'time'.
>>
>> What stays with us in our 'time bubble' is called 'matter', what not is
>> called 'radiation'.
>>
>> IOW: matter is composed from 'timelike stable patterns'.
>>
>>> 3 Measure the size limits for any known galaxies.
>>>
>>> 4 Measure jets from black holes to find evidence of a neutron
>>> jet in a time fountain.
>>
>> The so called 'jets' are in fact the 'edge' of the light cone of that
>> region, which we call 'black hole'.
>>
>> Since time is relative, our 'time-bubble' seen from that black hole
>> would have a jet, too, and would be a black hole (seen from there).
>>
>>
>>
>>> 5 Explore the inside of a proton as a negative infinity, a sky.
>>
>>
>> Well, if time could have negative directions (in our view), then our
>> world could be shrinking into infinity if seen from the 'other side'
>> (time domain with opposite direction of time).
>>
>>
>>
>> ..
>>
>> TH
>
> Hello TH, I enjoyed your response to my imagined experiments.
> Here is a set of new photo sketches of the 8 dimension universe idea.
> https://impuremath.wordpress.com/contraspline/
> Time departs from the proton in each hand drawn picture.
> The electron uses a contra-spline pairing to the proton.
> Experimentalists and explorers can go there.
> AF
>

I will read asap

About dimensions I had not speculated, but try to promote 
complex-four-vectors (or: "bi-quaternions").

They have eight components, which I depict as 'star-tetrahedron'.

I have still no proper website, but have written this text in google.docs


https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6

Maybe you like that, too.



TH

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