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  by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 10:32 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 11:02 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 11:31 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 13:36 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 13:49 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 14:07 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 14:35 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-10 23:22 +0000
                  Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:34 -0700
                    Re: by albert einstein Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-10 23:57 +0000
                      Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 19:36 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 18:43 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein Prudence Hofmeister <phow@innfldo.sp> - 2017-08-11 17:34 +0000
                  Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 11:37 -0700
                    Re: by albert einstein Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 12:43 -0700
                      Re: by albert einstein Prudence Oppenheimer <phow@innfldo.sp> - 2017-08-11 20:00 +0000
      Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 11:46 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 16:54 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 19:26 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 22:24 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 09:41 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 11:23 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 13:34 -0500
                  Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 12:34 -0700
                    Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 15:40 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 09:54 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-11 22:07 -0700
            by albert einstein "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-13 07:34 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:26 -0700
            Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 11:10 -0700
            Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:03 -0700
              Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 15:39 -0400
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 13:11 -0700
                  Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 16:17 -0400
                    Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-08-13 13:46 -0700
                  Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-08-13 17:04 -0400
                    Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 19:43 -0400
          Re: by albert einstein Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 08:02 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-12 13:51 +0200
        Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 11:25 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-12 22:41 +0200
            Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 14:08 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 18:01 -0400
              Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 18:04 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 18:36 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 19:15 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 20:26 -0700
                    Re: by albert einstein "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-12 21:19 -0700
                      Re: by albert einstein "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-12 21:24 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-13 20:32 +0200
                Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:16 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-13 21:05 +0200
                Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-14 13:16 -0700
                  Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-15 10:21 +0200
                    Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-15 12:08 -0700
                      Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-15 14:35 -0700
                      Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-16 08:19 +0200
        Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 13:06 -0700
    Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 11:20 -0400
      Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-08-13 10:19 -0700
        Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 11:08 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-23 10:42 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-25 12:33 -0700

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#428281

Hägar wrote:
> 
> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598D15F1.6A50@ix.netcom.com...
> 
> I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the election.
> Get a grip, dufus ...



Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the presidency...


I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....


I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.


What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
Hägar


Is that your cable channels attennas? You should try PointedEars attennas, you get all the channels! Vulcan TV...

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#428292

"The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598DDE57.33C8@ix.netcom.com...

Hägar wrote:
>
> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598D15F1.6A50@ix.netcom.com...
>
> I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the 
> election.
> Get a grip, dufus ...



Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the 
presidency...


I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....


I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.


What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
Hägar

>>> snip <<<

*** ever hear of an "Umlaut" ??? if not ... Google it or go
back to school. 

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#428296

On 8/11/17 1:23 PM, Hägar wrote:

> 
> Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the 
> presidency...
> 
> 
> I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....
> 
> 
> I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.

Normally I don't respond to off-topic posts like this, but this was 
pretty damn funny.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#428308

Hägar wrote:
> 
> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598DDE57.33C8@ix.netcom.com...
> 
> Hägar wrote:
> >
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598D15F1.6A50@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> > I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the
> > election.
> > Get a grip, dufus ...
> 
> Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the
> presidency...
> 
> I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....
> 
> I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.
> 
> What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
> Hägar
> 
> >>> snip <<<
> 
> *** ever hear of an "Umlaut" ??? if not ... Google it or go
> back to school.



Sorry, I went to skool in the United States, not Germany.



https://www.thegermanz.com/how-germans-feel-umlauts-aou/



Ü, or ü, is a character that typically represents a close front rounded vowel [y]. 
It is classified as ... A glyph, U with umlaut, appears in the German alphabet.



So, how are those German girls...Betty Boop, what a dish! Betty Gable, nice gams...

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#428351

"The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598E06DC.289B@ix.netcom.com...

Hägar wrote:
>
> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598DDE57.33C8@ix.netcom.com...
>
> Hägar wrote:
> >
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598D15F1.6A50@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> > I bet you also believe that Hillary won and that Trump "stole" the
> > election.
> > Get a grip, dufus ...
>
> Trump is President? I thought FoxNews won the election and CNN lost the
> presidency...
>
> I cannot tell which cable channel is running the country....
>
> I'm not into politics, I didn't vote for HBO.
>
> What are those two little dots above the letter ä?
> Hägar
>
> >>> snip <<<
>
> *** ever hear of an "Umlaut" ??? if not ... Google it or go
> back to school.



Sorry, I went to skool in the United States, not Germany.


>>> snip <<<


*** Well, some of us take advantage of furthering our education
by enrolling in foreign language studies.  But I can see your dilemma ...
a brain is one of the minimum requirements. 

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#428284

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Hägar wrote:
> >
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598CA9F0.77EB@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> > Hägar wrote:
> > >
> > > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> > >
> > > https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
> > >
> > > *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> > > a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> > > penned Obama's two books.
> > >
> > > Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> > > orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on
> > > the other hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism
> > > and has the flowery rhetoric of those carpet baggers.
> > >
> > > Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> > > od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> > > to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> > > You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
> >
> > https://monthlyreview.org/product/mr-001-01-1949-05/
> >
> > I appologize if it wasn't written by Albert Einstein...
> >
> > can you point to one link that claims that it *wasn't* written by Albert
> > Einstein???
> >
> > *** I'm simply saying why would a man, who is Jewish and had
> > to relocate twice (Switzerland and the US) to escape the scourge
> > of Hitler's Socialist regime, pen a letter in its praise ???
> > Only a screwball like you could believe that.
> 
> Sorry, I'm not into politics...
> 
> if you wondering what Einstein's politics are:
> 
> Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism, as illustrated by the following quote:
> "I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
> Political views of Albert Einstein - Wikipedia
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=albert+einstein+politics&oq=albert+einstein+politics&gs_l=psy-ab.12...769.769.0.1985.2.1.0.0.0.0.490.490.4-1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.0.0.0.CEwxLUS4RLo


But, if you want to talk about Albert Einstein politics, they both had the same politics, to take over the Vorld!


Albert Einstein called on governments to proceed further by taking gradual steps towards forming an effectual federal world government. 



“Mankind’s desire for peace can be realized only by the creation of a world government. --Albert Einstein


Nazi Germany
The ruling Nazi Party of 1933–1945 Germany envisaged the ultimate establishment of a world government under the complete hegemony of the Third Reich.


H. G. Wells
The New Republic must ultimately become a "World-State"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government



https://www.youtube.com/v/FN7r0Rr1Qyc&autoplay=1


The World Belongs To Me! -- The Starmaker



get off my planet.

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#428383

"The Starmaker" <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> "Hägar" <hsahm@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > > "The Starmaker"  wrote:
 >> > > https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>> > >
>> > Hägar wrote:
>> > > *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
>> > > a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
>> > > penned Obama's two books.
>> > >
>> > > Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
>> > > orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on
>> > > the other hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism
>> > > and has the flowery rhetoric of those carpet baggers.
>> > >
>> > > Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
>> > > od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
>> > > to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
>> > > You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
>> >
Starmaker wrote:
>> > https://monthlyreview.org/product/mr-001-01-1949-05/
>> > I appologize if it wasn't written by Albert Einstein...
>> > can you point to one link that claims that it *wasn't* written by
>> > Albert Einstein???
>> >
Hägar wrote:
>> > *** I'm simply saying why would a man, who is Jewish and had
>> > to relocate twice (Switzerland and the US) to escape the scourge
>> > of Hitler's Socialist regime, pen a letter in its praise ???
>> > Only a screwball like you could believe that.
>>
Starmaker wrote:
 >> Sorry, I'm not into politics...
>> if you wondering what Einstein's politics are:
>>
>> Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition
>> to capitalism, as illustrated by the following quote:
>> "I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate
>> these grave evils, namely through the establishment
>> of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational
>> system which would be oriented toward social goals.
>> Political views of Albert Einstein - Wikipedia
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>> https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=albert+einstein+politics&oq=albert

Starmaker wrote:
> But, if you, Hägar, want to talk about Albert Einstein politics,
> they both had the same politics, to take over the Vorld!
>
> Albert Einstein called on governments to proceed further
> by taking gradual steps towards forming an effectual federal
> world government.
>
> "Mankind's desire for peace can be realized only by
> the creation of a world government. --Albert Einstein
>
> The ruling Nazi Party of 1933-1945 Germany envisaged the
> ultimate establishment of a world government under the
> complete hegemony of the Third Reich.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government>
> <https://www.youtube.com/v/FN7r0Rr1Qyc&autoplay=1>
>  [[[ US-Neo-Nazi-Song-"Tomorrow-belongs to me"]]]
> The World Belongs To Me! -- The Starmaker
>
hanson wrote:
Well, this rehashing of Zio-kike machinations ought to be
taken with <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
in which a lot of details about the thief and twice arrested
wife-beater Albert Einstein  were discussed.
If interested check links "Vordergasse"

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#428516

Jeff-Relf.Me
In " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
  https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
Einstein both starts and ends with:  Why Socialism ?

In the end, he asks: ＜＜

  How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?

  Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is 
  of greatest significance in our age of transition. ＞＞ 

Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.

Communist slaves in China have two choices:

 1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or: 
 2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).

With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.

The USA has nothing even close to CAPITALISM 
The US has CORRUPT CRONY BOSS HOGGERY WALL STREET FEDERAL RESERVE PIRATOCRACY BASTARDIZED CAPITALISM designed to cause a perpetual UPWARD FLOW OF WEALTH from the poor ald middle class to the Wealthy Elite. 

A Crypto-Feudalist Oligarchy 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig

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#428550

David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> 
> Jeff-Relf.Me
> In " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>   https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
> Einstein both starts and ends with:  Why Socialism ?
> 
> In the end, he asks: ＜＜
> 
>   How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
> 
>   Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is
>   of greatest significance in our age of transition. ＞＞
> 
> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
> 
> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
> 
>  1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or:
>  2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
> 
> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.
> 
> The USA has nothing even close to CAPITALISM
> The US has CORRUPT CRONY BOSS HOGGERY WALL STREET FEDERAL RESERVE PIRATOCRACY BASTARDIZED CAPITALISM designed to cause a perpetual UPWARD FLOW OF WEALTH from the poor ald middle class to the Wealthy Elite.
> 
> A Crypto-Feudalist Oligarchy
> 
> https://youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig



you're not going to pick up any american chicks wit dat kind of talk..

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#428541 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

"Jeff-Relf.Me @." wrote in message 
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.13--6.06am.Seattle.2017...


>>> snip useless drivel <<<


*** Jeff, you off your meds again ??? 

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#428547 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
> 
> Wikipedia says: ＜＜
> 
>   Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism,
>   as illustrated by the following quote:
> 
>   " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils,
>     namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... ＞＞
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
> 
> But the quote is from:
> 
>   " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>     https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>   Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH:  Why Socialism ?
> 
> A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_:  ＜＜
> 
>   A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
>   the complete enslavement of the individual...
>   How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
> 
>   Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is
>   of greatest significance in our age of transition. ＞＞
> 
> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
> 
> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
> 
>  1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or:
>  2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
> 
> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html


Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.


Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much money.

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#428553 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

On 2017-08-13 03:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>
>> Wikipedia says: ＜＜
>>
>>   Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism,
>>   as illustrated by the following quote:
>>
>>   " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils,
>>     namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... ＞＞
>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>>
>> But the quote is from:
>>
>>   " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>>     https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>   Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH:  Why Socialism ?
>>
>> A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_:  ＜＜
>>
>>   A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
>>   the complete enslavement of the individual...
>>   How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
>>
>>   Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is
>>   of greatest significance in our age of transition. ＞＞
>>
>> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
>> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
>> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
>>
>> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
>>
>>  1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or:
>>  2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
>>
>> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
> 
> 
> Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.
> 
> 
> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much money.

Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.


-- 
Doomsdrzej
OpenMedia & EFF member
TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter
Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

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#428559 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

"Doomsdrzej"  wrote in message news:WV1kB.208867$GV1.105961@fx05.iad...

On 2017-08-13 03:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>
>> Wikipedia says: ＜＜
>>
>>   Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism,
>>   as illustrated by the following quote:
>>
>>   " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils,
>>     namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... ＞＞
>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>>
>> But the quote is from:
>>
>>   " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>>     https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>   Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH:  Why Socialism ?
>>
>> A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_:  ＜＜
>>
>>   A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
>>   the complete enslavement of the individual...
>>   How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
>>
>>   Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is
>>   of greatest significance in our age of transition. ＞＞
>>
>> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
>> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
>> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
>>
>> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
>>
>>  1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or:
>>  2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
>>
>> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.
>
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
>
>
> Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.
>
>
> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much 
> money.

Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.


*** The New York Times and The Washington Post are the bibles of
the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....

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#428560 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

On 2017-08-13 04:11 PM, Hägar wrote:
> "Doomsdrzej"  wrote in message news:WV1kB.208867$GV1.105961@fx05.iad...
> 
> On 2017-08-13 03:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>>
>>> Wikipedia says: ＜＜
>>>
>>>   Einstein was in favour of socialism and in opposition to capitalism,
>>>   as illustrated by the following quote:
>>>
>>>   " I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils,
>>>     namely through the establishment of a socialist economy "... ＞＞
>>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>>>
>>> But the quote is from:
>>>
>>>   " Why Socialism ? ", by Albert Einstein, May 1949
>>>     https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>>   Where Einstein BOTH STARTS AND ENDS WITH:  Why Socialism ?
>>>
>>> A bit further, at the very end, Einstein _ASKS_:  ＜＜
>>>
>>>   A planned economy, as such, may be accompanied by
>>>   the complete enslavement of the individual...
>>>   How can [a] COUNTERWEIGHT to the power of bureaucracy be assured ?
>>>
>>>   Clarity about the aims and PROBLEMS of socialism is
>>>   of greatest significance in our age of transition. ＞＞
>>>
>>> Captialism is the COUNTERWEIGHT ( to the power of bureaucracy ).
>>> Without capitalism, you have no real say, no _real_ vote.
>>> One dollar, One vote; No dollars, No _real_ votes.
>>>
>>> Communist slaves in China have two choices:
>>>
>>>  1. Work for the state, with state housing.  Or:
>>>  2. Work for the state, in a "ReEducation camp" ( jail ).
>>>
>>> With luck, this won't change; otherwise, I couldn't afford their stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Einstein just like socialist chicks...cause they are easy.
>>
>>
>> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much
>> money.
> 
> Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
> New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
> usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.
> 
> 
> *** The New York Times and The Washington Post are the bibles of
> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....

If the New York Times or the Washington Post claims that Donald Trump is
the resurrected corpse of Adolf Hitler sand mustache and with bleached
hair, left-wing idiots would believe it. After all, it is "credible."

Whatever Bill Maher, Trevor Noah, Stephen Colbert or those two rags say
is gospel.

-- 
Doomsdrzej
OpenMedia & EFF member
TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter
Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

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#428564 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

On 8/13/17, 1:17 PM, in article Qt2kB.186750$k72.99017@fx30.iad,
"Doomsdrzej" <.m@nsn.s> wrote:

>>> Einstein didn't like Captialist chicks because....they charge too much
>>> money.
>> 
>> Why anyone would believe anything the journalistic tampon known as the
>> New York Times would write is beyond me. Such discredited rags are
>> usually reserved for morons like the Prescott Parasite.
>> 
>> 
>> *** The New York Times and The Washington Post are the bibles of
>> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....
> 
> If the New York Times or the Washington Post claims that Donald Trump is
> the resurrected corpse of Adolf Hitler sand mustache and with bleached
> hair, left-wing idiots would believe it. After all, it is "credible."
> 
> Whatever Bill Maher, Trevor Noah, Stephen Colbert or those two rags say
> is gospel.
> 
> -- 
> Doomsdrzej
> OpenMedia & EFF member
> TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter
> Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

You have to be posting this nonsense for the sake of irony these days. I
mean, really, not even you could be THAT immune to reason.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#428565 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

Hägar wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....
                 ^^^^^^^^^^ Idiot Sign

-- 
Many a writer seems to think he is never profound except when he can't
understand his own meaning.
		-- George D. Prentice

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#428578 — Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein.

On 2017-08-13 05:04 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Hägar wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> the Millennial Snowflakes, don't you know ....
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^ Idiot Sign

The ultimate snowflake of Usenet is triggered.

-- 
Doomsdrzej
OpenMedia & EFF member
Infowars & TheRebel.media supporter
Gab.ai: @doomsdrzej

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#428676

On Friday, 11 August 2017 00:54:31 UTC+1, Hägar  wrote:
> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598CA9F0.77EB@ix.netcom.com...
> 
> Hägar wrote:
> >
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> > https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
> >
> > *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> > a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> > penned Obama's two books.
> >
> > Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> > orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on
> > the other hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism
> > and has the flowery rhetoric of those carpet baggers.
> >
> > Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> > od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> > to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> > You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
> 
> 
> https://monthlyreview.org/product/mr-001-01-1949-05/
> 
> 
> I appologize if it wasn't written by Albert Einstein...
> 
> can you point to one link that claims that it *wasn't* written by Albert 
> Einstein???
> 
> 
> *** I'm simply saying why would a man, who is Jewish and had
> to relocate twice (Switzerland and the US) to escape the scourge
> of Hitler's Socialist regime, pen a letter in its praise ???
> Only a screwball like you could believe that.

No, Hitler's regime wasn't "socialist", it was "national socialist". 

It's a big difference. 


"Socialism" is founded on the concept that the primary stakeholder is society as a whole, with "society" defined inclusively. So countries that allow the keeping of slaves, or encourage a rigid, exclusive class system are not considered socialist. A country run for the benefit of the rich and powerful is not considered to be a socialist country.

With Hitler's NSDAP, the primary stakeholder was assumed not to be the species ("communism"), society ("socialism"), business or people who own property and currency ("capitalism"), or the individual ("libertarianism"), but the nation-state, hence the all-important "National" qualifier. 

To those running a national-socialist state, the needs of the state override human rights, democratic ideals, and pretty much everything else. In order to out-perform or out-fight other nation states ("Deutschland über alles!"), a national-socialist country may reduce its population to the status of slave labour in order to "win", and will concentrate power in the hands of the top officials who are deemed to be in the best position to understand what the state needs, rather than deferring to the layers of town, county, state and federal democracy that socialism tends to put in place to ensure that everyone's interests are represented. The concentration of power and lack of regulating principles under n-s tends to lead to dictatorships, a blurring of the lines between the needs of the country and the desires of those running it ("I am the country, my needs are the country's needs"), and power being concentrated not just in the hands of top officials, but also with their children and friends. 

National socialism places loyalty to the state above loyalty to ideals that may hinder the state's actions (so the country is praised, but its constitution is criticised/undermined/suspended), and often identifies national identity preferentially with a country's majority ethnic or religious group. 
Helping that group to prosper at the expense of the others gives part of the population a reason to embrace the system out of self-interest, making it easier for an n-s organisation to achieve and retain power. To deliberately exclude, isolate and disadvantage smaller groups in order to gain more support from the rest of the population is not something that would normally be classed as socialism.



Some on the US right like to use the name of the NSDAP to associate "socialism" with Hitler in order to discredit the idea of "social-ist" policies like publicly-funded education, social welfare and universal health care. This is dishonest (or honest-but-stupid).
 
In reality, the closest current match between national socialism and "big" US politics is not the left, or the Obama presidency, but the Donald Trump campaign. With its "America First" slogan and its idea that civil liberties and democratic ideals may need to be downgraded to "Make America Great Again", its dislike of constitutional safeguards, its idea that the interests of the individual and business and society are all secondary to the needs of the nation-state, and its association with groups that consider a particular ethnicity and/or religious affiliation to be central to whether one can be considered a "proper" American, Trump's campaigning position seems to be essentially national-socialist.

Eric

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#428396

Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>
>
> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> penned Obama's two books.
>
> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on the other
> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
> of those carpet baggers.
>
> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.

Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the 
USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein 
could not do.

So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.

There are always questions about authorship of a certain text, since 
'the elite' provides also books, which the member elitists could claim 
authorship for.

This is similar to other realms in arts and science, where usually the 
'big animal' demands all the fame and leaves the annoying work to others.

So painters should paint and singers should sing - without possible 
assistance from behind the curtains.

Some did and failed ('Milli Vanilli' for instance).

Therefore such public exams are no longer in use and we have to buy 
things as presented.

TH

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#428440

"Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
>> "The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
>>
>> Hägar wrote:
>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
>> penned Obama's two books.
>>
>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class.  Obama, on the other
>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
>> of those carpet baggers.
>>
>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
>
"Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the USA). 
> The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein could not 
> do.
> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
>
hanson wrote:
Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
spoken accent (audio) can be  seen in a silent, printed article? ..
Here, for your benefit, are some more
<http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>

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