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Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake.

Started by"HGW..." <hgw@....>
First post2017-07-09 12:50 +1000
Last post2017-08-20 14:31 -0700
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  Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 12:50 +1000
    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-08 19:52 -0700
      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-10 09:14 +1000
        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-09 16:58 -0700
          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Vern Garriott <verg@entweoe.te> - 2017-07-10 19:09 +0000
            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-11 11:00 +1000
    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-11 11:04 +1000
      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-11 19:27 +1000
        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-11 14:58 +0000
          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Vern Garriott <verg@entweoe.te> - 2017-07-11 16:29 +0000
          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-12 08:06 +1000
            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-12 10:41 +1000
              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-12 11:31 +1000
                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-12 13:06 +1000
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-07-12 21:17 +1000
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-13 09:10 +1000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-13 09:25 +1000
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-13 11:41 +1000
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-14 19:39 +1000
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-13 22:30 -0500
                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-12 10:46 -0500
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Laverne Chandler <uunvvnh@ewdnrawe.ee> - 2017-07-12 22:10 +0000
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-13 09:40 +1000
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-13 11:44 +1000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-15 08:26 +1000
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-14 18:53 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-16 18:56 +1000
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Garfield Dieter <igdle@rdlge.rf> - 2017-07-16 11:08 +0000
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-16 04:36 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Garfield Dieter <igdle@rdlge.rf> - 2017-07-16 11:49 +0000
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-17 09:19 +1000
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-16 16:51 -0700
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-18 09:04 +1000
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-17 18:59 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-17 19:23 -0700
                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-17 20:02 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 09:23 +1000
                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-18 16:27 -0700
                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-18 17:04 -0700
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 17:36 -0700
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-22 09:17 +1000
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 21:34 -0700
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Kurt Larrabee <arb@twraa.ab> - 2017-07-22 12:26 +0000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-23 15:16 +1000
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Huuouka Tokoji <ktukjoau@huywkoyu.uu> - 2017-07-23 14:51 +0000
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-24 12:11 +1000
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-24 08:00 +0000
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-25 08:40 +1000
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-24 22:55 +0000
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-23 17:17 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-24 12:10 +1000
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-23 20:29 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-25 09:15 +1000
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-25 01:48 +0000
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-25 12:04 +1000
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-25 13:58 +0000
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-24 20:27 -0500
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-25 12:15 +1000
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-24 20:24 -0700
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-25 15:01 +1000
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. anne <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 04:39 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-25 05:06 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-26 12:16 +1000
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 20:32 -0500
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-26 12:22 +1000
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-24 20:23 +0000
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-24 09:16 +0200
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-25 08:56 +1000
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-24 23:04 +0000
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-27 14:33 +0200
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-28 09:55 +1000
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-29 11:08 +0200
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 10:32 +1000
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-30 13:57 +0200
                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-31 10:27 +1000
                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-30 17:34 -0700
                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-30 23:15 -0700
                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-01 11:48 -0700
                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-31 10:43 +0200
                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-01 09:16 +1000
                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-01 11:08 +0200
    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 21:04 -0700
      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-21 19:37 +1000
        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-21 05:34 -0700
          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-22 15:30 +1000
            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 06:24 -0700
              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. anne <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 13:51 -0700
                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-22 14:13 -0700
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-23 16:46 +1000
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 08:02 -0700
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-24 12:20 +1000
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 20:43 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-07-24 11:22 +0200
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-24 02:27 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-24 04:51 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 10:56 -0500
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-25 14:01 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-25 09:21 +1000
              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-23 16:55 +1000
                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 08:28 -0700
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 11:01 -0500
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-25 14:02 -0700
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 16:19 -0700
                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-24 12:14 +1000
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 20:25 -0700
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-26 13:28 +1000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 06:41 -0700
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-07-26 17:23 +0200
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 15:02 -0700
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-27 11:31 +1000
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-26 22:49 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 15:30 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 06:23 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-27 08:22 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-27 09:06 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 17:20 -0700
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-27 18:57 -0700
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 04:03 -0700
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-28 14:56 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-29 08:53 +1000
                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-28 19:23 -0700
                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 09:15 +1000
                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-30 02:20 +0000
                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 19:01 +1000
                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-31 14:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-01 09:20 +1000
                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-01 03:48 -0700
                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-02 08:27 +1000
                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-01 15:51 -0700
                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-02 20:10 +1000
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:33 -0500
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-03 06:51 +1000
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:28 -0500
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-04 12:02 +1000
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-02 17:40 -0700
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-02 23:40 -0700
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-04 12:16 +1000
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-03 20:08 -0700
                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-03 06:44 -0700
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-03 08:21 -0700
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-06 03:11 -0700
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-06 05:28 -0700
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-07 10:08 +1000
                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-06 18:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-07 17:46 +1000
                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-07 05:13 -0700
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-04 12:47 +1000
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-04 09:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-05 08:44 +1000
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-04 16:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-06 00:11 -0700
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 16:27 -0700
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-05 07:22 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-06 09:02 +1000
                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-05 19:37 -0700
                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-07 09:46 +1000
                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-06 18:08 -0700
                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 22:36 -0700
                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-07 04:54 -0700
                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 14:08 -0500
                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 14:24 -0700
                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 16:47 -0500
                                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 19:40 -0700
                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 11:26 +0000
                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 04:40 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-08 06:37 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 08:24 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-08 08:42 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-08 15:44 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:07 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-08 21:40 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 14:06 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-08 15:36 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-09 09:40 +1000
                                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-08 20:59 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-09 20:45 +1000
                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 07:26 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-09 19:00 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 19:34 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 05:03 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 05:52 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 07:52 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 09:30 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 12:18 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 10:51 -0700
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                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-11 08:14 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:19 -0700
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                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 19:10 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-09 18:55 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-11 08:17 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-10 23:12 +0000
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                                                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 17:17 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-08 21:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 01:00 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:32 -0500
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                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-09 15:34 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 10:18 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 12:09 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-09 10:40 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 12:11 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-09 08:42 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-09 18:52 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 08:30 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 12:07 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 10:32 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 14:54 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 17:53 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 01:34 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-10 11:06 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 05:47 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 11:58 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 14:57 -0500
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                                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-10 11:07 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 05:49 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-10 15:07 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:28 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-10 15:37 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:44 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-10 15:50 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 07:44 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-10 17:11 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 09:31 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-11 12:05 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-12 07:24 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 19:11 -0700
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                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 10:22 -0500
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                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:34 -0500
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                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 18:09 -0500
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                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 13:27 -0500
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                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 08:55 -0500
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                                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-07 23:52 -0700
                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 11:26 +0000
                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-08 07:03 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 03:02 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-08 20:22 -0700
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                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-06 23:29 -0700
                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-07 17:54 +1000
                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-06 07:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-07 09:44 +1000
                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-06 17:53 -0700
                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-07 17:53 +1000
                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Earline Loar <ureoo@wwarao.ei> - 2017-08-07 08:47 +0000
                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-07 05:43 -0700
                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-08 08:53 +1000
                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-02 18:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-03 06:56 +1000
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:28 -0500
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 20:04 +0000
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 16:14 -0700
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-28 06:21 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-28 09:32 +1000
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 17:31 -0700
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-28 12:03 +1000
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 04:06 -0700
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-28 21:39 +1000
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 06:16 -0700
                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-29 11:07 +1000
                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 22:48 -0700
                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-29 16:10 +1000
                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 06:02 -0700
                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-30 12:26 +1000
                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 23:46 -0700
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-30 17:28 +1000
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 07:00 -0700
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-31 11:19 +1000
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 21:21 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-31 15:34 +1000
                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 04:03 -0700
                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-31 22:10 +1000
                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-31 05:35 -0700
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-30 21:50 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-31 15:47 +1000
                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 04:19 -0700
                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-31 22:34 +1000
                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 15:49 -0700
                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-01 10:55 +1000
                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 20:34 -0700
                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-01 14:05 +1000
                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 21:17 -0700
                                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-01 14:44 +1000
                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 06:12 -0700
                                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-01 15:57 -0700
                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-02 11:55 +1000
                                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:18 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-03 06:46 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-03 13:19 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 01:42 -0700
                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-31 23:26 -0700
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-02 02:49 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-02 21:55 +1000
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 10:00 -0500
                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 09:30 +1000
                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-30 12:20 +1000
                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 18:56 +1000
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-30 20:43 +1000
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-31 10:31 +1000
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-31 11:20 +1000
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-01 09:35 +1000
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-31 14:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-30 23:06 -0700
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-01 09:27 +1000
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-01 11:56 -0700
                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-30 03:49 +0000
                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-30 18:58 +1000
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-31 14:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-01 10:58 +1000
                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Jeèným Ludnými <hovae@ieuuio.org> - 2017-07-30 10:41 +0000
                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-02 02:47 -0700
                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-02 22:04 +1000
                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Nicolaas Vroom <nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be> - 2017-08-03 08:40 -0700
                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 09:31 -0700
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-04 11:57 +1000
                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-04 12:26 +1000
                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 21:58 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-04 15:31 +1000
                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 07:34 -0700
                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-05 14:13 +1000
                                                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 22:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-05 16:15 +1000
                                                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 06:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-06 13:03 +1000
                                                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 22:11 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-05 08:09 +1000
                                                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Robert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 22:06 -0700
                                                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-07 10:18 +1000
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-28 14:06 +0000
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-29 08:59 +1000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-27 20:16 +1000
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-27 20:23 +1000
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-28 10:00 +1000
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-30 19:10 +0200
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Jeèným Ludnými <hovae@ieuuio.org> - 2017-07-30 17:39 +0000
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-24 08:12 +0000
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-25 09:32 +1000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-25 10:48 +0000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Ernard Hevalier <adrdo@tarlaab.lr> - 2017-07-25 10:52 +0000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 11:03 -0500
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-26 12:25 +1000
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 13:24 -0500
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-27 20:18 +1000
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 10:48 -0500
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-28 10:10 +1000
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-07-26 13:15 +1000
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-27 20:27 +1000
        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-22 05:48 -0700
          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 11:04 -0500
            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-25 09:16 -0700
              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 12:16 -0500
                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-27 19:56 +1000
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-27 06:04 -0700
                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 10:43 -0500
                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-28 10:25 +1000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 01:55 +0000
                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-27 19:03 -0700
                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-28 18:49 +1000
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-28 14:01 +0000
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-28 14:49 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-29 09:21 +1000
                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 11:40 +0000
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-07-31 05:34 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-07-31 05:51 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 10:05 -0500
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-01 09:46 +1000
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:05 -0500
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-03 07:09 +1000
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-08-02 15:54 -0700
                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-03 10:06 +1000
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:28 -0500
                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-04 12:25 +1000
                                          Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 02:38 +0000
                                            Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-08-05 08:37 +1000
                                Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-01 06:10 -0700
                                  Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:05 -0500
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-02 13:52 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Jeèným Ludnými <hovae@ieuuio.org> - 2017-08-02 22:24 +0000
                                        Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-03 07:06 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:27 -0500
                                    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-03 06:47 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 10:27 -0500
    Re: Einstein's RoS Exposed as Blatant Fake. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-08-20 14:31 -0700

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#426075

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-25 11:01 -0500
Message-ID<ol7pvs$nk1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#425908
On 7/23/17 10:28 AM, Robert Winn wrote:
> But, you say, these differences are not enough to matter.  The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames because scientists say they are.  No, they aren't.  I just proved that they aren't.  Not with Galileo's equations, and not with Einstein's equations.  They may be closer to being the same with Einstein's equations, but there are still differences.

What differences do you think there are with Einstein's equations.

The principle that the laws of physics are the same in all inertial 
frames is one that is assumed, not a conclusion that is dependent on the 
choice of coordinate transformations. You are certainly right that the 
laws of physics will be different if you use certain transformation 
equations, but that's taken as an indication that the wrong 
transformation equations have been used because it is taken as both 
desirable and a fundamental truth that the laws of physics are invariant.

We could spend a little time discussing why the laws of physics should 
be invariant if you like, and what that is an overriding principle.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#426119

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-07-25 14:02 -0700
Message-ID<83e6d277-d723-4d92-abb9-8dd667f2b3ce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426075
W dniu wtorek, 25 lipca 2017 18:01:04 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:

> The principle that the laws of physics are the same in all inertial 
> frames

i.e. nowhere.

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#426132

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-25 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<da25d03f-1725-40e9-9763-d375f6736eeb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426119
On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 2:02:25 PM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 25 lipca 2017 18:01:04 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
> 
> > The principle that the laws of physics are the same in all inertial 
> > frames
> 
> i.e. nowhere.

Point masses don't exist either. You have no point.

--
Jan

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#425939

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-24 12:14 +1000
Message-ID<ol3l6m$1mb4$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#425886
On 23/07/17 16:55, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 22/07/2017 11:24 PM, Robert Winn wrote:

>>> You'll still be wrong.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>> No, I am not wrong, and I do not ignore a century of research.  I just 
>> do the mathematics correctly.  Einstein's revolutionary idea was that 
>> there was a "time dilation", in other words, a slower clock in S', the 
>> frame of reference in motion.  Scientists tested his idea and found 
>> that clocks did slow down when placed in motion.  Then they 
>> experimented some more and found that clocks speeded up if subjected 
>> to less gravitation.  So they concluded that Isaac Newton was wrong, 
>> and clocks that were working correctly did not all agree with one 
>> another as Newton believed in his absolute time interpretation of the 
>> Galilean transformation equations.  The Galilean transformation 
>> equations were thrown into the trash.
> 
> Einstein showed what the equations have to be if the laws of physics are 
> to be the same in all inertial frames. Your equations don't satisfy that 
> requirement.

Why are dingleberries so plainly dumb? The fact that the laws of physics 
are the same does not mean the parameter VALUES have to be the same.

> Sylvia.


-- 

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#425942

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-23 20:25 -0700
Message-ID<e42132da-6e79-4a6d-915e-1334041fdbc1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#425939
On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 7:14:51 PM UTC-7, HGW... wrote:
> On 23/07/17 16:55, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 22/07/2017 11:24 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> 
> >>> You'll still be wrong.
> >>>
> >>> Sylvia.
> >>
> >> No, I am not wrong, and I do not ignore a century of research.  I just 
> >> do the mathematics correctly.  Einstein's revolutionary idea was that 
> >> there was a "time dilation", in other words, a slower clock in S', the 
> >> frame of reference in motion.  Scientists tested his idea and found 
> >> that clocks did slow down when placed in motion.  Then they 
> >> experimented some more and found that clocks speeded up if subjected 
> >> to less gravitation.  So they concluded that Isaac Newton was wrong, 
> >> and clocks that were working correctly did not all agree with one 
> >> another as Newton believed in his absolute time interpretation of the 
> >> Galilean transformation equations.  The Galilean transformation 
> >> equations were thrown into the trash.
> > 
> > Einstein showed what the equations have to be if the laws of physics are 
> > to be the same in all inertial frames. Your equations don't satisfy that 
> > requirement.
> 
> Why are dingleberries so plainly dumb? The fact that the laws of physics 
> are the same does not mean the parameter VALUES have to be the same.
> 
> > Sylvia.
> 
> 
> --

Oh, well, I did not know.  Scientists just seem to make up whatever rules they think they need to have as they go along.  I like Galileo, though.  He was right about the earth rotating on its axis.  

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#426152

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-07-26 13:28 +1000
Message-ID<etqgilFlch0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#425942
On 24/07/2017 1:25 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 7:14:51 PM UTC-7, HGW... wrote:
>> On 23/07/17 16:55, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2017 11:24 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
>>
>>>>> You'll still be wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>
>>>> No, I am not wrong, and I do not ignore a century of research.  I just
>>>> do the mathematics correctly.  Einstein's revolutionary idea was that
>>>> there was a "time dilation", in other words, a slower clock in S', the
>>>> frame of reference in motion.  Scientists tested his idea and found
>>>> that clocks did slow down when placed in motion.  Then they
>>>> experimented some more and found that clocks speeded up if subjected
>>>> to less gravitation.  So they concluded that Isaac Newton was wrong,
>>>> and clocks that were working correctly did not all agree with one
>>>> another as Newton believed in his absolute time interpretation of the
>>>> Galilean transformation equations.  The Galilean transformation
>>>> equations were thrown into the trash.
>>>
>>> Einstein showed what the equations have to be if the laws of physics are
>>> to be the same in all inertial frames. Your equations don't satisfy that
>>> requirement.
>>
>> Why are dingleberries so plainly dumb? The fact that the laws of physics
>> are the same does not mean the parameter VALUES have to be the same.
>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>>
>> --
> 
> Oh, well, I did not know.  Scientists just seem to make up whatever rules they think they need to have as they go along.  I like Galileo, though.  He was right about the earth rotating on its axis.
> 

Scientists try to discover what the rules are. It's not always at all 
obvious, and sometimes the rules turn out to be highly counter-intuitive.

The preamble to Einsteins paper "On the Electrodynamics of Moving 
Bodies" shows why he was motivated to postulate that the laws of physics 
should be the same for all inertial observers and that only relative 
motions matter.

Experiments already indicated that the speed of light was constant 
(which would have to be true for the postulate to stand). Einstein then 
shows that the postulate unavoidably leads to the Lorentz transformation.

So the Lorentz transformation is the rule if the laws of physics are the 
same for all inertial observers. It is not "made up", but is deduced by 
applying mathematics to the postulate.

You may not like it, but the only way to avoid it is to show that the 
postulate is wrong.

Sylvia.

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#426171

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-26 06:41 -0700
Message-ID<83f4ba90-744a-4416-a0f9-b91464793d2b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426152
On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 8:28:26 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 24/07/2017 1:25 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 7:14:51 PM UTC-7, HGW... wrote:
> >> On 23/07/17 16:55, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>> On 22/07/2017 11:24 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> You'll still be wrong.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sylvia.
> >>>>
> >>>> No, I am not wrong, and I do not ignore a century of research.  I just
> >>>> do the mathematics correctly.  Einstein's revolutionary idea was that
> >>>> there was a "time dilation", in other words, a slower clock in S', the
> >>>> frame of reference in motion.  Scientists tested his idea and found
> >>>> that clocks did slow down when placed in motion.  Then they
> >>>> experimented some more and found that clocks speeded up if subjected
> >>>> to less gravitation.  So they concluded that Isaac Newton was wrong,
> >>>> and clocks that were working correctly did not all agree with one
> >>>> another as Newton believed in his absolute time interpretation of the
> >>>> Galilean transformation equations.  The Galilean transformation
> >>>> equations were thrown into the trash.
> >>>
> >>> Einstein showed what the equations have to be if the laws of physics are
> >>> to be the same in all inertial frames. Your equations don't satisfy that
> >>> requirement.
> >>
> >> Why are dingleberries so plainly dumb? The fact that the laws of physics
> >> are the same does not mean the parameter VALUES have to be the same.
> >>
> >>> Sylvia.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> > 
> > Oh, well, I did not know.  Scientists just seem to make up whatever rules they think they need to have as they go along.  I like Galileo, though.  He was right about the earth rotating on its axis.
> > 
> 
> Scientists try to discover what the rules are. It's not always at all 
> obvious, and sometimes the rules turn out to be highly counter-intuitive.
> 
> The preamble to Einsteins paper "On the Electrodynamics of Moving 
> Bodies" shows why he was motivated to postulate that the laws of physics 
> should be the same for all inertial observers and that only relative 
> motions matter.
> 
> Experiments already indicated that the speed of light was constant 
> (which would have to be true for the postulate to stand). Einstein then 
> shows that the postulate unavoidably leads to the Lorentz transformation.
> 
> So the Lorentz transformation is the rule if the laws of physics are the 
> same for all inertial observers. It is not "made up", but is deduced by 
> applying mathematics to the postulate.
> 
> You may not like it, but the only way to avoid it is to show that the 
> postulate is wrong.
> 
> Sylvia.

I already did, which you ignored.  So I will demonstrate again.  Suppose we have a railroad car in motion.  We drop a ball from the top of the railroad car to the floor.  We time the descent of the ball using two clocks, one inside the railroad car and one on the ground beside the railroad track.  Einstein says that the clock in the railroad car is slower than the clock on the ground.  So, according to the clock in the railroad car, the ball is falling faster than it is according to the clock on the ground.  
So go ahead and wave your hands again.  Say some meaningless scientific jargon.  The fact remains that according to Einstein's mathematics, the law of gravitation is not the same in the moving railroad car as it is on the ground.  So all of the laws of physics are not the same in the two frames of reference.  That is just the way it is. 

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#426178

FromPython <python@example.invalid>
Date2017-07-26 17:23 +0200
Message-ID<olac56$m7h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#426171
Robert 'Idiot Jesuit' Winn wrote:
> I already did, which you ignored.  So I will demonstrate again. [snip hand waving]

You've demonstrated nothing but that you are a idiot Jesuit, Mr Winn.
Your lousy language and false analogies do not make illusion.

> So go ahead and wave your hands again.

You are the one waving your hands here, if you apply LT to the kind of
situation you've described, you will find out that the laws of
gravitation (and motion, etc) stays the same in both frame.

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#426219

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-26 15:02 -0700
Message-ID<cbe4be8f-ea74-4631-a425-bcd58a6d62ea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426178
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:23:22 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:
> Robert 'Idiot Jesuit' Winn wrote:
> > I already did, which you ignored.  So I will demonstrate again. [snip hand waving]
> 
> You've demonstrated nothing but that you are a idiot Jesuit, Mr Winn.
> Your lousy language and false analogies do not make illusion.
> 
> > So go ahead and wave your hands again.
> 
> You are the one waving your hands here, if you apply LT to the kind of
> situation you've described, you will find out that the laws of
> gravitation (and motion, etc) stays the same in both frame.

Well, no they don't, Python.  Go ahead and demonstrate why you think they do.  Here are the two equations involved.  

                 y'=y
                 t'=(t-vx/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

Now just how is it that you think you are going to have objects falling the same distance with two different times, and the laws of gravitation (and motion, etc) stays the same in both frame, to use your exact words.  If the clock in S' is slower, then objects are going to be falling faster in S'.  Sorry, but that changes gravitation in S'

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#426229

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-07-27 11:31 +1000
Message-ID<etsu46F86saU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#426171
On 26/07/2017 11:41 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 8:28:26 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 24/07/2017 1:25 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 7:14:51 PM UTC-7, HGW... wrote:
>>>> On 23/07/17 16:55, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> On 22/07/2017 11:24 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> You'll still be wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I am not wrong, and I do not ignore a century of research.  I just
>>>>>> do the mathematics correctly.  Einstein's revolutionary idea was that
>>>>>> there was a "time dilation", in other words, a slower clock in S', the
>>>>>> frame of reference in motion.  Scientists tested his idea and found
>>>>>> that clocks did slow down when placed in motion.  Then they
>>>>>> experimented some more and found that clocks speeded up if subjected
>>>>>> to less gravitation.  So they concluded that Isaac Newton was wrong,
>>>>>> and clocks that were working correctly did not all agree with one
>>>>>> another as Newton believed in his absolute time interpretation of the
>>>>>> Galilean transformation equations.  The Galilean transformation
>>>>>> equations were thrown into the trash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Einstein showed what the equations have to be if the laws of physics are
>>>>> to be the same in all inertial frames. Your equations don't satisfy that
>>>>> requirement.
>>>>
>>>> Why are dingleberries so plainly dumb? The fact that the laws of physics
>>>> are the same does not mean the parameter VALUES have to be the same.
>>>>
>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Oh, well, I did not know.  Scientists just seem to make up whatever rules they think they need to have as they go along.  I like Galileo, though.  He was right about the earth rotating on its axis.
>>>
>>
>> Scientists try to discover what the rules are. It's not always at all
>> obvious, and sometimes the rules turn out to be highly counter-intuitive.
>>
>> The preamble to Einsteins paper "On the Electrodynamics of Moving
>> Bodies" shows why he was motivated to postulate that the laws of physics
>> should be the same for all inertial observers and that only relative
>> motions matter.
>>
>> Experiments already indicated that the speed of light was constant
>> (which would have to be true for the postulate to stand). Einstein then
>> shows that the postulate unavoidably leads to the Lorentz transformation.
>>
>> So the Lorentz transformation is the rule if the laws of physics are the
>> same for all inertial observers. It is not "made up", but is deduced by
>> applying mathematics to the postulate.
>>
>> You may not like it, but the only way to avoid it is to show that the
>> postulate is wrong.
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 
> I already did, which you ignored.  So I will demonstrate again.  Suppose we have a railroad car in motion.  We drop a ball from the top of the railroad car to the floor.  We time the descent of the ball using two clocks, one inside the railroad car and one on the ground beside the railroad track.  Einstein says that the clock in the railroad car is slower than the clock on the ground.  So, according to the clock in the railroad car, the ball is falling faster than it is according to the clock on the ground.
> So go ahead and wave your hands again.  Say some meaningless scientific jargon.  The fact remains that according to Einstein's mathematics, the law of gravitation is not the same in the moving railroad car as it is on the ground.  So all of the laws of physics are not the same in the two frames of reference.  That is just the way it is.
> 

The key to this is the word "inertial". Apparently you don't know what 
it means, because the clocks in your thought experiment are manifestly 
NOT in inertial frames since they're sitting in a gravitational field.

The requirement that the laws of physics be the same was expressly 
restricted to inertial frames, and does not apply to the clocks in your
thought experiment.

Sylvia.

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#426243

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-07-26 22:49 -0700
Message-ID<0bbfac57-82c6-4de4-a056-cacb74f19aef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426229
W dniu czwartek, 27 lipca 2017 03:31:55 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> The requirement that the laws of physics be the same was expressly 
> restricted to inertial frames,

I.e. nowhere.

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#426377

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-27 15:30 -0700
Message-ID<5976a392-c5ae-4cee-a711-b1f2c9fe9ae3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426243
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:49:19 PM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 27 lipca 2017 03:31:55 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> > The requirement that the laws of physics be the same was expressly 
> > restricted to inertial frames,
> 
> I.e. nowhere.

Not even wrong.

--
Jan

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#426289

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-27 06:23 -0700
Message-ID<4136a9a5-281b-4b86-b4b7-e81f17f41498@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426229
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 6:31:55 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 26/07/2017 11:41 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 8:28:26 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 24/07/2017 1:25 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 7:14:51 PM UTC-7, HGW... wrote:
> >>>> On 23/07/17 16:55, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>>> On 22/07/2017 11:24 PM, Robert Winn wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> You'll still be wrong.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sylvia.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No, I am not wrong, and I do not ignore a century of research.  I just
> >>>>>> do the mathematics correctly.  Einstein's revolutionary idea was that
> >>>>>> there was a "time dilation", in other words, a slower clock in S', the
> >>>>>> frame of reference in motion.  Scientists tested his idea and found
> >>>>>> that clocks did slow down when placed in motion.  Then they
> >>>>>> experimented some more and found that clocks speeded up if subjected
> >>>>>> to less gravitation.  So they concluded that Isaac Newton was wrong,
> >>>>>> and clocks that were working correctly did not all agree with one
> >>>>>> another as Newton believed in his absolute time interpretation of the
> >>>>>> Galilean transformation equations.  The Galilean transformation
> >>>>>> equations were thrown into the trash.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Einstein showed what the equations have to be if the laws of physics are
> >>>>> to be the same in all inertial frames. Your equations don't satisfy that
> >>>>> requirement.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why are dingleberries so plainly dumb? The fact that the laws of physics
> >>>> are the same does not mean the parameter VALUES have to be the same.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Sylvia.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>
> >>> Oh, well, I did not know.  Scientists just seem to make up whatever rules they think they need to have as they go along.  I like Galileo, though.  He was right about the earth rotating on its axis.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Scientists try to discover what the rules are. It's not always at all
> >> obvious, and sometimes the rules turn out to be highly counter-intuitive.
> >>
> >> The preamble to Einsteins paper "On the Electrodynamics of Moving
> >> Bodies" shows why he was motivated to postulate that the laws of physics
> >> should be the same for all inertial observers and that only relative
> >> motions matter.
> >>
> >> Experiments already indicated that the speed of light was constant
> >> (which would have to be true for the postulate to stand). Einstein then
> >> shows that the postulate unavoidably leads to the Lorentz transformation.
> >>
> >> So the Lorentz transformation is the rule if the laws of physics are the
> >> same for all inertial observers. It is not "made up", but is deduced by
> >> applying mathematics to the postulate.
> >>
> >> You may not like it, but the only way to avoid it is to show that the
> >> postulate is wrong.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> > 
> > I already did, which you ignored.  So I will demonstrate again.  Suppose we have a railroad car in motion.  We drop a ball from the top of the railroad car to the floor.  We time the descent of the ball using two clocks, one inside the railroad car and one on the ground beside the railroad track.  Einstein says that the clock in the railroad car is slower than the clock on the ground.  So, according to the clock in the railroad car, the ball is falling faster than it is according to the clock on the ground.
> > So go ahead and wave your hands again.  Say some meaningless scientific jargon.  The fact remains that according to Einstein's mathematics, the law of gravitation is not the same in the moving railroad car as it is on the ground.  So all of the laws of physics are not the same in the two frames of reference.  That is just the way it is.
> > 
> 
> The key to this is the word "inertial". Apparently you don't know what 
> it means, because the clocks in your thought experiment are manifestly 
> NOT in inertial frames since they're sitting in a gravitational field.
> 
> The requirement that the laws of physics be the same was expressly 
> restricted to inertial frames, and does not apply to the clocks in your
> thought experiment.
> 
> Sylvia.

Einstein used trains in his thought experiments all the time, and no one objected.  I could have just said two frames of reference S and S', so let's do that.  There is a frame of reference S at rest and a frame of reference S' in motion in the +x direction.  A clock in S' is slower than a clock in S.  A ball is accelerating in the -y direction in S at 32 feet per second per second.  If the clock in S' is slower, is it also accelerating at 32 feet per second per second in S'?  
See, that was not so difficult, was it?

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#426296

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2017-07-27 08:22 -0700
Message-ID<9b94c7da-e330-4a4e-ac45-db3a6b39fba0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426289
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:23:32 AM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
>
> Einstein used trains in his thought experiments all the time, and no one
> objected.

That was 112 years ago.  Get conscious!

> I could have just said two frames of reference S and S', so let's do that.
> There is a frame of reference S at rest and a frame of reference S' in
> motion in the +x direction.  A clock in S' is slower than a clock in S.

It is MEASURED as being slower... and  the clock in S is MEASURED as being
slower than the one in S'.  Uh oh!  Your delusional bull plop is revealed.

> A ball is accelerating in the -y direction in S at 32 feet per second per second.  If the clock in S' is slower,

It's not.

> is it also accelerating at 32 feet per second per second in S'?  
> See, that was not so difficult, was it?

What's difficult is finding a memory cell in your brain.

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#426303

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2017-07-27 09:06 -0700
Message-ID<efda3370-d590-4dfa-81a0-a8eed52747f5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426296
W dniu czwartek, 27 lipca 2017 17:22:34 UTC+2 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał:
> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:23:32 AM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
> >
> > Einstein used trains in his thought experiments all the time, and no one
> > objected.
> 
> That was 112 years ago.  Get conscious!
> 
> > I could have just said two frames of reference S and S', so let's do that.
> > There is a frame of reference S at rest and a frame of reference S' in
> > motion in the +x direction.  A clock in S' is slower than a clock in S.
> 
> It is MEASURED as being slower... 

As a follower of The Shit of great Einstein, you don't 
care for what is measured, of course.

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#426385

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-27 17:20 -0700
Message-ID<364c8331-1139-4f76-9122-b1d055c9da36@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426296
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 8:22:34 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:23:32 AM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
> >
> > Einstein used trains in his thought experiments all the time, and no one
> > objected.
> 
> That was 112 years ago.  Get conscious!
> 
> > I could have just said two frames of reference S and S', so let's do that.
> > There is a frame of reference S at rest and a frame of reference S' in
> > motion in the +x direction.  A clock in S' is slower than a clock in S.
> 
> It is MEASURED as being slower... and  the clock in S is MEASURED as being
> slower than the one in S'.  Uh oh!  Your delusional bull plop is revealed.
> 
> > A ball is accelerating in the -y direction in S at 32 feet per second per second.  If the clock in S' is slower,
> 
> It's not.
> 
> > is it also accelerating at 32 feet per second per second in S'?  
> > See, that was not so difficult, was it?
> 
> What's difficult is finding a memory cell in your brain.

Well, show the proof of what you say.  Einstein said the clock in S' was slower.  Scientists put clocks on airplanes to prove that the clock in S' was slower.  Now you come along and say it is MEASURED as being slower.  What do you mean it is MEASURED as being slower?  
Go ahead and tell us what you mean when you say it is MEASURED as being slower.  Einstein said the clock in S' is slower.  Scientists said the clock in S' is slower.  Now you come along and say it is MEASURED as being slower.  Go ahead and explain your terminology. 

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#426390

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2017-07-27 18:57 -0700
Message-ID<8be30a6a-cb87-4409-b4da-0921ba5a0ca9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426385
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:20:17 PM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
>
> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 8:22:34 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:23:32 AM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
> > >
> > > Einstein used trains in his thought experiments all the time, and no one
> > > objected.
> > 
> > That was 112 years ago.  Get conscious!
> > 
> > > I could have just said two frames of reference S and S', so let's do that.
> > > There is a frame of reference S at rest and a frame of reference S' in
> > > motion in the +x direction.  A clock in S' is slower than a clock in S.
> > 
> > It is MEASURED as being slower... and  the clock in S is MEASURED as being
> > slower than the one in S'.  Uh oh!  Your delusional bull plop is revealed.
> > 
> > > A ball is accelerating in the -y direction in S at 32 feet per second
> > per second.  If the clock in S' is slower,
> > 
> > It's not.
> > 
> > > is it also accelerating at 32 feet per second per second in S'?  
> > > See, that was not so difficult, was it?
> > 
> > What's difficult is finding a memory cell in your brain.
> 
> Well, show the proof of what you say.  Einstein said the clock in S'
> was slower.

There's the proof that you don't have any memory cells.  You've had it
explained to you that E was wrong about this, but you still keep pulling
that dog poop out of your rear end.

> Scientists put clocks on airplanes to prove that the clock in S' was slower.

They didn't measure it during the trips, dog poop spreader.

> Now you come along and say it is MEASURED as being slower.

This isn't the first time you've been told this, Alzheimer brain.

> What do you mean it is MEASURED as being slower?

You don't know what "measure" means?  Wow!  What the heck are you even DOING
on a physics board?
 
> [Deranged bullshit deleted]

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#426430

FromRobert Winn <rbwinn3@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-28 04:03 -0700
Message-ID<070a585f-a760-49fd-a5a9-ab95b1071707@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426390
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:57:41 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:20:17 PM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 8:22:34 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:23:32 AM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Einstein used trains in his thought experiments all the time, and no one
> > > > objected.
> > > 
> > > That was 112 years ago.  Get conscious!
> > > 
> > > > I could have just said two frames of reference S and S', so let's do that.
> > > > There is a frame of reference S at rest and a frame of reference S' in
> > > > motion in the +x direction.  A clock in S' is slower than a clock in S.
> > > 
> > > It is MEASURED as being slower... and  the clock in S is MEASURED as being
> > > slower than the one in S'.  Uh oh!  Your delusional bull plop is revealed.
> > > 
> > > > A ball is accelerating in the -y direction in S at 32 feet per second
> > > per second.  If the clock in S' is slower,
> > > 
> > > It's not.
> > > 
> > > > is it also accelerating at 32 feet per second per second in S'?  
> > > > See, that was not so difficult, was it?
> > > 
> > > What's difficult is finding a memory cell in your brain.
> > 
> > Well, show the proof of what you say.  Einstein said the clock in S'
> > was slower.
> 
> There's the proof that you don't have any memory cells.  You've had it
> explained to you that E was wrong about this, but you still keep pulling
> that dog poop out of your rear end.
> 
> > Scientists put clocks on airplanes to prove that the clock in S' was slower.
> 
> They didn't measure it during the trips, dog poop spreader.
> 
> > Now you come along and say it is MEASURED as being slower.
> 
> This isn't the first time you've been told this, Alzheimer brain.
> 
> > What do you mean it is MEASURED as being slower?
> 
> You don't know what "measure" means?  Wow!  What the heck are you even DOING
> on a physics board?
>  
> > [Deranged bullshit deleted]

I am asking you what you mean by "measure".  I gave you the information.  A clock was flown in an airplane.  A clock was left on the ground.  After the flight of the plane, the airplane clock registered less or more time than the clock left on the ground.  I say the clock had a different rate than the clock left on the ground.  You say it was MEASURED as being slower or faster.  So what do you mean by MEASURED?
It seems like an easy and simple question to me. 

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#426486

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2017-07-28 14:56 -0700
Message-ID<d8caeba7-56b9-42b7-b3f5-259a9988428a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#426430
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 5:03:34 AM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
>
> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:57:41 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:20:17 PM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, show the proof of what you say.  Einstein said the clock in S'
> > > was slower.
> > 
> > There's the proof that you don't have any memory cells.  You've had it
> > explained to you that E was wrong about this, but you still keep pulling
> > that dog poop out of your rear end.
> > 
> > > Scientists put clocks on airplanes to prove that the clock in S' was
> > > slower.
> > 
> > They didn't measure it during the trips, dog poop spreader.
> > 
> > > Now you come along and say it is MEASURED as being slower.
> > 
> > This isn't the first time you've been told this, Alzheimer brain.
> > 
> > > What do you mean it is MEASURED as being slower?
> > 
> > You don't know what "measure" means?  Wow!  What the heck are you even DOING
> > on a physics board?
> >  
> > > [Deranged bullshit deleted]
> 
> I am asking you what you mean by "measure".

Man, you are one lazy fool!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement

> I gave you the information.  A clock was flown in an airplane.  A clock was
> left on the ground.  After the flight of the plane, the airplane clock
> registered less or more time than the clock left on the ground.

You are correct:  THAT is information.

> I say the clock had a different rate than the clock left on the ground.

And THAT you just pulled out of your rear end.  THAT was not measured.

> You say it was MEASURED as being slower or faster.

No, it CAN BE measured as such according to SR.  It was not measured
in that particular experiment.

> So what do you mean by MEASURED?
> It seems like an easy and simple question to me.

It's not all that simple, but you seem to be able to come up with wrong
conclusions by being simplistic.

"Measurement is the assignment of a number to a characteristic of an object
or event, which can be compared with other objects or events"

Got it, or is it too complicated for you?

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#426489

From"HGW..." <hgw@....>
Date2017-07-29 08:53 +1000
Message-ID<olgfa7$id7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#426486
On 29/07/17 07:56, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 5:03:34 AM UTC-6, Robert Winn wrote:
>>

>>> You don't know what "measure" means?  Wow!  What the heck are you even DOING
>>> on a physics board?
>>>   
>>>> [Deranged bullshit deleted]
>>
>> I am asking you what you mean by "measure".
> 
> Man, you are one lazy fool!

poot widdle gawy....uses big words like 'measurement' without having a 
clue what they mean.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement
> 
>> I gave you the information.  A clock was flown in an airplane.  A clock was
>> left on the ground.  After the flight of the plane, the airplane clock
>> registered less or more time than the clock left on the ground.
> 
> You are correct:  THAT is information.
> 
>> I say the clock had a different rate than the clock left on the ground.
> 
> And THAT you just pulled out of your rear end.  THAT was not measured.

The two clocks obviously ran at different rates.

>> You say it was MEASURED as being slower or faster.
> 
> No, it CAN BE measured as such according to SR.  It was not measured
> in that particular experiment.

Hhahhahhahahhhahhahhha! when has SR ever performed an experiment? You 
are quoting a PREDICTION of SR, not a measurement.

>> So what do you mean by MEASURED?
>> It seems like an easy and simple question to me.
> 
> It's not all that simple, but you seem to be able to come up with wrong
> conclusions by being simplistic.
> 
> "Measurement is the assignment of a number to a characteristic of an object
> or event, which can be compared with other objects or events"

'Assignment of a number'? That implies it one cannot use the number on 
the clock itself to measure its rate.

> Got it, or is it too complicated for you?

little gawy cannot even see the problem....maybe he should ask his god 
thing for help....



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