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| First post | 2017-06-23 09:36 +1000 |
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Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-23 09:36 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 10:49 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 23:37 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 17:09 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-23 00:36 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-23 11:08 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:49 -0400
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:21 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-22 18:53 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:50 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-24 04:29 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 11:42 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 07:34 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:55 -0400
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 09:43 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-23 09:08 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-23 12:14 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:57 -0400
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-23 22:40 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Iorgas Gerakis <grura@agsiskswk.ai> - 2017-06-24 12:10 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 08:42 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-24 16:28 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 23:08 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 21:40 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 14:56 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 22:14 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-26 11:16 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-25 18:54 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:30 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-25 10:21 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 22:23 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:50 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:03 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-26 10:05 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 08:23 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 15:43 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 09:19 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-27 08:15 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-30 17:43 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-30 11:36 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-05 11:20 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Oveho Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-05 17:10 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-06 03:49 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-06 11:11 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-06 20:19 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:05 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-06 20:40 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-07 09:43 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-07 22:49 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-07 09:11 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-08 09:44 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-08 00:09 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 10:06 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-08 18:01 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 12:56 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-08 20:45 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-10 09:50 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-11 10:58 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-10 19:58 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-10 23:57 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-12 08:22 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-11 14:54 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-12 08:23 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-12 03:07 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-13 09:42 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-13 03:15 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-14 09:34 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-14 05:24 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 10:20 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-07-19 15:20 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2017-07-19 19:56 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-30 17:40 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-03 11:37 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:26 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:42 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 07:51 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 23:58 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:52 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:06 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:14 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 15:39 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Ernardin Ignace <ee@wrrawiwidir.ic> - 2017-06-25 09:13 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 11:50 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 10:00 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 12:20 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 10:40 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 17:33 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 15:49 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-26 18:31 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 18:12 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 12:14 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 12:05 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 10:10 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 12:33 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 10:48 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Poutnik <Poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-24 16:40 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Iorgas Gerakis <grura@agsiskswk.ai> - 2017-06-24 17:28 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 09:20 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-24 17:04 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 10:44 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-24 17:54 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 03:14 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 20:50 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 15:05 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-25 16:37 -0500
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-26 11:47 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-06-26 18:02 +0200
Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 16:30 +0000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-06-26 16:31 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-13 23:30 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 10:24 +1000
Re: Does Light Really Exist. gehan.ameresekere@gmail.com - 2017-07-19 01:26 -0700
Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 19:32 +1000
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| From | "HGW..." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 09:36 +1000 |
| Subject | Does Light Really Exist. |
| Message-ID | <oihk91$800$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not know if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. So c is really just the speed of information. How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? --
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 10:49 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <er36tkFjvmaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #423285 |
On 23/06/2017 9:36 AM, HGW... wrote: > Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not know > if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. > Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. > So c is really just the speed of information. > How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? This is philosophy. Science does not address whether things exist. Sylvia.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 23:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c18b2536-54f0-4300-a4ec-aead98beec72@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423288 |
W dniu piątek, 23 czerwca 2017 02:49:59 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał: > On 23/06/2017 9:36 AM, HGW... wrote: > > Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not know > > if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. > > Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. > > So c is really just the speed of information. > > How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? > > This is philosophy. Science does not address whether things exist. Buhahahahahahahaha.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 17:09 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <er3t5bFoff3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #423295 |
On 23/06/2017 4:37 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: > W dniu piątek, 23 czerwca 2017 02:49:59 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał: >> On 23/06/2017 9:36 AM, HGW... wrote: >>> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not know >>> if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. >>> Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. >>> So c is really just the speed of information. >>> How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? >> >> This is philosophy. Science does not address whether things exist. > > Buhahahahahahahaha. > You got the hiccups? Sylvia.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 00:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <204be1da-d08c-4fcb-a776-d4e053548fb3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423298 |
W dniu piątek, 23 czerwca 2017 09:09:35 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał: > On 23/06/2017 4:37 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: > > W dniu piątek, 23 czerwca 2017 02:49:59 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał: > >> On 23/06/2017 9:36 AM, HGW... wrote: > >>> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not know > >>> if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. > >>> Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. > >>> So c is really just the speed of information. > >>> How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? > >> > >> This is philosophy. Science does not address whether things exist. > > > > Buhahahahahahahaha. > > > > You got the hiccups? > > Sylvia. No.
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| From | Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 11:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oiisqs$f8i$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #423288 |
W dniu poniedziałek, 19 czerwca 2017 15:00:36 UTC-6 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał: > On 23/06/2017 9:36 AM, HGW... wrote: >> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not >> know if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. >> Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. >> So c is really just the speed of information. >> How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? > > This is philosophy. Science does not address whether things exist. > Sylvia. Light is perfectly invisible, woman. What it is you don't understand. Dr. HGW is perfectly consistent.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 16:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <594d7ef6$0$54157$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #423306 |
On 6/23/2017 7:08 AM, Lipek Mniak wrote: > W dniu poniedziałek, 19 czerwca 2017 15:00:36 UTC-6 użytkownik Sylvia Else > napisał: > >> On 23/06/2017 9:36 AM, HGW... wrote: >>> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not >>> know if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. >>> Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. >>> So c is really just the speed of information. >>> How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? >> >> This is philosophy. Science does not address whether things exist. >> Sylvia. > > Light is perfectly invisible, woman. What it is you don't understand. > Dr. HGW is perfectly consistent. > Sylvia is right. And moreover, the fact that light does not radiate to the sides does not mean it doesn't exist. Try standing IN FRONT OF the laser beam and then come back and tell us light does not exist.
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| From | Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> |
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| Date | 2017-06-24 10:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oilefl$av6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #423339 |
benj wrote: >>> This is philosophy. Science does not address whether things exist. >>> Sylvia. >> >> Light is perfectly invisible, woman. What it is you don't understand. >> Dr. HGW is perfectly consistent. >> > Sylvia is right. And moreover, the fact that light does not radiate to > the sides does not mean it doesn't exist. Try standing IN FRONT OF the > laser beam and then come back and tell us light does not exist. Another half-engineer, not knowing that light is perfectly invisible. Let me requote. >>> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not >>> know if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. When you look, foolish, into a laser beam, what you detect/see is the excited surface atoms, whatever technology, gaseous or solid state. You are insufficient.
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-22 18:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <dd58a93b-6c13-45c7-b687-33a2e5800891@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423285 |
On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 5:36:05 PM UTC-6, HGW... wrote: > > Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not know > if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. > Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. > So c is really just the speed of information. > How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? > -- Gee, I guess using a green laser pointer to point out stars is just the hallucinations of a crazy astronomer :-)) Some of the light in the ray is scattered along the path, giving an obvious indication of its passing. Bt pay no attention to that 'cause some self-proclaimed "expert" says it isn't so.
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| From | Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> |
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| Date | 2017-06-24 10:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oilg61$av6$6@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #423289 |
Gary Harnagel wrote: > On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 5:36:05 PM UTC-6, HGW... wrote: >> >> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not >> know if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. >> Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. >> So c is really just the speed of information. >> How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? > > Gee, I guess using a green laser pointer to point out stars is just the > hallucinations of a crazy astronomer ) You must be crazy, and definitely NOT a physicists, thinking that the green line you see is the light being visible. It is the SCATTERED light by the whatever dust particles and air MOLECULES. Amazing that you can be fooled so easy. Thinking that one can see MONOCHROME light, reveals likewise poor understanding and zero dark-room laboratory experience.
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-24 04:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0e9b987f-c283-48fb-924f-a2aff9e47cfd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423354 |
On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 4:50:46 AM UTC-6, Valok Planek wrote: > > Gary Harnagel wrote: > > > > On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 5:36:05 PM UTC-6, HGW... wrote: > > > > > > Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not > > > know if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. > > > Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. > > > So c is really just the speed of information. > > > How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? > > > > Gee, I guess using a green laser pointer to point out stars is just the > > hallucinations of a crazy astronomer ) > > You must be crazy, and definitely NOT a physicists, thinking that the > green line you see is the light being visible. It is the SCATTERED light > by the whatever dust particles and air MOLECULES. Amazing that you can be > fooled so easy. I wasn't fooled at all, not even by the dishonest, yammering 'nym-shifting troll, who seems to believe that scattered light is irrelevant. > Thinking that one can see MONOCHROME light, reveals > likewise poor understanding and zero dark-room laboratory experience. Thinking one CAN'T see monochrome light reveals the abysmal depth of the understanding of the stupid, blathering 'nym-shifting troll, who has such a poor life that he spends his valuable time here on earth making pointless posts. Sort of like Pointless Prevaricating Pentcho, Ridiculous Ralph Rabbidge and Supercilious Seto. Well, actually, all three of you guys are arrogant beyond belief, which arrogance is only exceeded by your ignorance.
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| From | Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> |
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| Date | 2017-06-24 11:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oilj6c$id7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #423357 |
Gary Harnagel wrote: >> Thinking that one can see MONOCHROME light, reveals likewise poor >> understanding and zero dark-room laboratory experience. > > Thinking one CAN'T see monochrome light reveals the abysmal depth of the That's the excited surface atoms, my liebe freunde in Divergent Matter, and NOT the light. That's how the scattering works, absorption and reflection. Those are PROCESSES. Precesses are abstract activity which implies RESONANCE. That's how the emission and reception works. Using antennas. Maaan, that I need to emphasise, these peoples are morons, not physicists.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 07:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <oij1t8$o2v$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #423285 |
On 6/22/17 6:36 PM, HGW... wrote: > Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not know > if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. > Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous instant. > So c is really just the speed of information. > How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? No one has seen a T-Rex alive and walking around. However, there is essentially zero doubt that T-Rex's once lived and walked around. There's reason for that, obviously. Now, the question is, do you NEED to see a light ray go by to know that light exists? -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 16:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <594d803e$0$15570$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #423320 |
On 6/23/2017 8:34 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 6/22/17 6:36 PM, HGW... wrote: >> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. A person in empty space would not >> know if an intense laser beam went right past his nose. >> Our eyes perceive images of objects as they were at a previous >> instant. So c is really just the speed of information. >> How do we know the thing we call light actually exists? > > No one has seen a T-Rex alive and walking around. However, there is > essentially zero doubt that T-Rex's once lived and walked around. > There's reason for that, obviously. > > Now, the question is, do you NEED to see a light ray go by to know that > light exists? > Bod, put your mind in gear and quit wandering the forests of political debate. T-Rex is in the past and hence cannot be seen. Light is in the now and can be seen. In fact, it's HOW you "see", dummy! The fact that light waves to not propagate to the sides does not mean the forward propagation does not exist.Indeed forward beams of light always produce energy to the side even though it is in the forward direction.That energy even extends to infinity! Give them the mathematics on this Odd.
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| From | Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> |
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| Date | 2017-06-25 09:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oio0jr$3if$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #423320 |
Odd Bodkin wrote: > No one has seen a T-Rex alive and walking around. However, there is > essentially zero doubt that T-Rex's once lived and walked around. There's > reason for that, obviously. Actually I believe, I read somewhere that the T-Rex doctrine is been falsified. Same way the "Lucy", the African missing link, being revealed as fake from head to tail.
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 09:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g4ydneKFMZVzvdDEnZ2dnUU7_81i4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #423285 |
On 6/22/17 6/22/17 6:36 PM, HGW... wrote: > Nobody has ever seen a light ray. How silly. Why do you just make up silly stuff and pretend it is true? Yes, a person won't see a light ray unless it intersects her eye. So what? We do see light that does intersect our eyes all the time. Tom Roberts
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| From | pcardinale@volcanomail.com |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 12:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f72c22b8-bf8d-4afc-854e-27c8c8614e7a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #423324 |
On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 7:08:52 AM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote: > On 6/22/17 6/22/17 6:36 PM, HGW... wrote: > > Nobody has ever seen a light ray. > > How silly. Why do you just make up silly stuff and pretend it is true? > My guess is that the reason he does that is because it's his only 'skill'.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 16:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <594d80a0$0$15570$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #423333 |
On 6/23/2017 3:14 PM, pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote: > On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 7:08:52 AM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote: >> On 6/22/17 6/22/17 6:36 PM, HGW... wrote: >>> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. >> >> How silly. Why do you just make up silly stuff and pretend it is true? >> > > My guess is that the reason he does that is because it's his only 'skill'. > Libs, writers, journalists and other "creative people" have mostly flunked every science course they ever took.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2017-06-23 22:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1841364.KlZ2vcFHjT@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #423324 |
Tom Roberts wrote: > On 6/22/17 6/22/17 6:36 PM, HGW... wrote: >> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. > > […] a person won't see a light ray unless it intersects her eye. IIUC, according to at least two official definitions of “(light) ray”, that is not true: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_(optics)> (see references) So (light) rays can be seen, e.g. - when light shines through orifices in translucent/opaque material, e.g. sunlight shines through clouds <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight#/media/File:Sunshine_at_Dunstanburgh.JPG> - when directed light (e.g. from a flashlight or headlamp, or a laser) is projected through rain, fog, or vapor: <http://www.c5forum.com/diy/fog_lamps/foglamp.jpg> - with refracting objects, such as crystals, prisms, and lenses: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refraction#/media/File:F%C3%A9nyt%C3%B6r%C3%A9s.jpg> -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | Iorgas Gerakis <grura@agsiskswk.ai> |
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| Date | 2017-06-24 12:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oilks9$l8k$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #423324 |
Tom Roberts wrote: > On 6/22/17 6/22/17 6:36 PM, HGW... wrote: >> Nobody has ever seen a light ray. > > How silly. Why do you just make up silly stuff and pretend it is true? > Yes, a person won't see a light ray unless it intersects her eye. So > what? We do see light that does intersect our eyes all the time. > Tom Roberts A lot of individuals around here not knowing what is going on. That's an EM interaction. A resonance with the EM antenna embedded into your eyes. Logically as well, you can't see something using that something seeing it. Dr. HGW appears consistent. You do not.
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