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UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!

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First post2017-02-10 17:22 -0500
Last post2017-02-15 13:09 +1100
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  UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-10 17:22 -0500
    Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-10 17:25 -0500
      Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-02-10 19:09 -0800
        Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! Emmaline Coots <ealoa@loealoioa.los> - 2017-02-11 10:50 +0000
          Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-11 17:34 -0500
        Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-11 17:37 -0500
      Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-11 17:44 -0500
        Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:31 -0500
          Isn't this sad? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-13 16:42 -0500
            Re: Isn't this sad? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-02-13 16:14 -0800
              Re: Isn't this sad? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 18:32 -0500
                Re: Isn't this sad? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-02-14 20:10 -0800
    Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! alsor@interia.pl - 2017-02-11 11:28 -0800
      Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-11 18:08 -0500
        Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! alsor@interia.pl - 2017-02-11 18:04 -0800
    Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-14 14:52 +1100
      Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 18:49 -0500
        Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-15 12:06 +1100
          Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-02-14 20:43 -0500
            Re: UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART! Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-15 13:09 +1100

#408769 — UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-10 17:22 -0500
SubjectUP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!
Message-ID<589e3d28$0$42023$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com>
UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!

You’ve all heard me talk of my fictitious “smarter than Einstein” prize 
given to the kook theory that proves relativity wrong.  Lots of you here 
try for it, but there is no money, just honor.

Maybe you’ve heard of the Amazing Randi ESP prize offering a million 
dollars to anyone who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as 
an anonymous HVAC post. The Amazing Randi who put up the money is the 
one who gets to decide if you won!  (You didn’t!) Tee Hee!

But for all you geniuses, now is your chance to get rich and show that 
you all are really as smart as you tell everyone you are. The Clay 
Foundation of Cambridge Mass in the year 2000 put up a million dollars 
each for anyone who solves any (or more) of seven of the worlds most 
important unsolved problems of the new millennium. Clearly based on the 
bluster of the anonymous “experts” here this should be easy money! 
Problems can be found at www.claymath.org.

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#408770

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-10 17:25 -0500
Message-ID<589e3dc2$0$42023$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#408769
On 2/10/2017 5:22 PM, benj wrote:
> UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!

Something for everybody!  For a physics genius like Anonymous Odd all he 
has to do is prove the Yang-Mills Theory Mass-Gap Hypothesis.  For those 
not as smart or knowledgeable as Odd all you have to prove is:

“For any compact, simple gauge group, the quantum Yang-Mills equations 
in four dimensional Euclidean space have a solution that predicts a mass 
gap.”  So Simple!  Especially for someone with a major in math and 
philosophy like Odd.

And for Anonymous HVAC there is the Poincare Conjecture. Piece of cake 
for a God like HVAC who has already “co-authored” math books on analytic 
geometry. And best of all it’s already been solved for all dimensions 
except THREE which is of course our world! You just need to show that If 
any arbitrary loop on a topological surface can be shrunk to a point, 
then that manifold is equivalent to a hypersphere of that dimension.  A 
snap!  Everyone get ready to worship him!

  www.claymath.org

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#408795

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-02-10 19:09 -0800
Message-ID<o7lv70$f20$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#408770
"benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote and repaeated after
> On 2/10/2017 5:22 PM, benj Jacoby wrote:

You’ve all heard me talk of my fictitious “smarter than Einstein” prize
given to the kook theory that proves relativity wrong....
>
... the Amazing Randi ESP prize is offering a million dollars to anyone
who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as an anonymous
HVAC post, since Randi  gets to decide if you won! ... Tee Hee!

The CFoC  of Cambridge Mass 1] put up a million dollars for anyone
who solves any of the worlds most important unsolved problems of
the new millennium.
>
Clearly based on the bluster of the physics genius like Anonymous
Odd Boinker "Odd Bodkin" <bodkinodd@gmail.com>, or Anonymous
HVAC Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>, all t/he/y
has to do is prove the Yang-Mills Theory Mass-Gap Hypothesis:
“For any compact, simple gauge group, the quantum Yang-Mills
equations in four dimensional Euclidean space have a solution that
predicts a mass gap.”
>
And there is the Poincare Conjecture which has already been
solved for all dimensions except THREE which of course is
__our world!__.  You just need to show that If any arbitrary loop
on a topological surface can be shrunk to a point, then that
manifold is equivalent to a hypersphere of that dimension.
>
Problems can be found at www.claymath.org.
>
hanson wrote:
But Ben, since your often announced mantra says, that
"one should not make Math more real the Reality itself!"
... why are you urging folks to  do exactly the opposite,
you pointing towards ghostly worlds with properties that
can  NOT be measured in _our world_?... in which and
why Harlow & the Boinker are bagging on you because
of your own mass "ass gap" notwithstanding in Mass [1]...
ROTFLMAO

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#408806

FromEmmaline Coots <ealoa@loealoioa.los>
Date2017-02-11 10:50 +0000
Message-ID<o7mqai$1145$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#408795
hanson wrote:

> But Ben, since your often announced mantra says, that "one should not
> make Math more real the Reality itself!" ... why are you urging folks to
>  do exactly the opposite,
> you pointing towards ghostly worlds with properties that can  NOT be
> measured in _our world_?... in which and why Harlow & the Boinker are
> bagging on you because of your own mass "ass gap" notwithstanding in
> Mass [1]... ROTFLMAO

ahaha ahahaa ahahanson, you are wrong in every accounts. ESP already 
proven to be true, I have a theory.

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#408872

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-11 17:34 -0500
Message-ID<589f9181$0$55557$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#408806
On 2/11/2017 5:50 AM, Emmaline Coots wrote:
> hanson wrote:
>
>> But Ben, since your often announced mantra says, that "one should not
>> make Math more real the Reality itself!" ... why are you urging folks to
>>  do exactly the opposite,
>> you pointing towards ghostly worlds with properties that can  NOT be
>> measured in _our world_?... in which and why Harlow & the Boinker are
>> bagging on you because of your own mass "ass gap" notwithstanding in
>> Mass [1]... ROTFLMAO
>
> ahaha ahahaa ahahanson, you are wrong in every accounts. ESP already
> proven to be true, I have a theory.
>
So does Bert.

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#408875

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-11 17:37 -0500
Message-ID<589f922d$0$55557$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#408795
On 2/10/2017 10:09 PM, hanson wrote:
> "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote and repaeated after
>> On 2/10/2017 5:22 PM, benj Jacoby wrote:
>
> You’ve all heard me talk of my fictitious “smarter than Einstein” prize
> given to the kook theory that proves relativity wrong....
>>
> ... the Amazing Randi ESP prize is offering a million dollars to anyone
> who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as an anonymous
> HVAC post, since Randi  gets to decide if you won! ... Tee Hee!
>
> The CFoC  of Cambridge Mass 1] put up a million dollars for anyone
> who solves any of the worlds most important unsolved problems of
> the new millennium.
>>
> Clearly based on the bluster of the physics genius like Anonymous
> Odd Boinker "Odd Bodkin" <bodkinodd@gmail.com>, or Anonymous
> HVAC Harlow Campbell "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>, all t/he/y
> has to do is prove the Yang-Mills Theory Mass-Gap Hypothesis:
> “For any compact, simple gauge group, the quantum Yang-Mills
> equations in four dimensional Euclidean space have a solution that
> predicts a mass gap.”
>>
> And there is the Poincare Conjecture which has already been
> solved for all dimensions except THREE which of course is
> __our world!__.  You just need to show that If any arbitrary loop
> on a topological surface can be shrunk to a point, then that
> manifold is equivalent to a hypersphere of that dimension.
>>
> Problems can be found at www.claymath.org.
>>
> hanson wrote:
> But Ben, since your often announced mantra says, that
> "one should not make Math more real the Reality itself!"
> ... why are you urging folks to  do exactly the opposite,

Trump and I are not required to be consistent.

> you pointing towards ghostly worlds with properties that
> can  NOT be measured in _our world_?... in which and
> why Harlow & the Boinker are bagging on you because
> of your own mass "ass gap" notwithstanding in Mass [1]...
> ROTFLMAO

Kiss my ass-gap Hanson!
"Not to the right, and not to the left but right down the middle"!
(old stupid joke)

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#408877

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-11 17:44 -0500
Message-ID<589f93bb$0$63601$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#408770
On 2/10/2017 5:25 PM, benj wrote:
> On 2/10/2017 5:22 PM, benj wrote:
>> UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!

UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!

For Electrical engineers like Chimp and others here there is always the 
tried and true Reimann Hypothesis!  For anyone into complex numbers like 
EEs this is just quick work. All you need to do is show that zeros of 
the complex zeta function all lie on the real +1/2 axis. Half this 
problem is already done for you since it has already been shown that all 
(infinite number of them) even negative real numbers ( -2, -4, -6, etc.) 
are zeros. You only need to find the infinite number of zeros lying on 
the real +1/2 axis and show that none lie off that axis. What could be 
easier?

And for a computer genius in mom’s basement like Rolf, we have the P vs 
NP problem. In short it comes down to this: just find a solution to the 
traveling salesman problem that is solvable in a realistic time using a 
computer. In other words show that the traveling salesman problem is a P 
rather than NP problem.  I’m sure Rolf can handle this even using 
Windoze and the million bucks will allow him to keep using Microsoft OS 
even as fees go up and up!

  www.claymath.org

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#409119

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-13 16:31 -0500
Message-ID<58a225ce$0$25427$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#408877
On 2/11/2017 5:44 PM, benj wrote:
> On 2/10/2017 5:25 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 2/10/2017 5:22 PM, benj wrote:
>>> UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!


UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!

And lastly for those here really interested in physics and not 
psychology, a million buck waits for anyone who can solve the simple 
Navier-Stokes, equations that explain all of fluid dynamics. No 
relativity, no quantum, no imaginary numbers, just plain old-fashioned 
classical physics. Who can resist the challenge?  No “real” scientist 
that is for sure!

So have at it! I’m not entering because you all agree I’m just a kook! A 
nutjob with no education, no intelligence, a liar, a troll, and crazier 
than a shithouse rat. It has even been said I believe in ghosts and ESP. 
  So you ALL get to prove you are better than me right now. Just do it, 
you bunch of arrogant clowns.  I’ll wait right here to worship at your 
feet as you sprinkle dollar bills over my head as the ultimate insult.

On the other hand you’ll probably end up a lot richer if you “invent” 
something really stupid like Facebook or Twitter instead of trying to do 
real science.

www.claymath.org

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#409121 — Isn't this sad?

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-13 16:42 -0500
SubjectIsn't this sad?
Message-ID<58a22837$0$53168$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#409119
On 2/13/2017 4:31 PM, benj wrote:
> On 2/11/2017 5:44 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 2/10/2017 5:25 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 2/10/2017 5:22 PM, benj wrote:
>>>> UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!
>
>
> UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!

I gave all the posting clowns here who call everyone kooks and tell us 
all what geniuses they are a chance to actually discuss some science in 
these science newsgroups. And what do I get. Mostly sounds of silence. 
HVAC was the only one with the balls to reply and all he could do is 
jabber about how he doesn't need a million dollars. I guess he hasn't 
checked out what cancer treatment can cost. Of course that was imaginary 
cancer treatment which is much cheaper. And where are all the other big 
mouth know-it-alls? All of them scared and cowering in a corner afraid 
to show how little science they all know. Best they can do is call 
anyone who actually knows science a "kook" so they can then feel better 
about their own ignorance. This has been really shameful exhibition. I 
kid you not.

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#409134 — Re: Isn't this sad?

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-02-13 16:14 -0800
SubjectRe: Isn't this sad?
Message-ID<o7ti20$sit$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#409121
"benj" Jacoby <benj@nobody.net> repeated himself:
1x > On 2/13/2017 4:31 PM, benj wrote:
2x >> On 2/11/2017 5:44 PM, benj wrote:
3x >>> On 2/10/2017 5:25 PM, benj wrote:
4x>>>> On 2/10/2017 5:22 PM, benj wrote:
This has been really shameful exhibition. I kid you not.
>
hanson wrote:
Pity, but thanks for the laughs.... ahahahahanson

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#409286 — Re: Isn't this sad?

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-14 18:32 -0500
SubjectRe: Isn't this sad?
Message-ID<58a3939e$0$34552$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#409134
On 2/13/2017 7:14 PM, hanson wrote:
>
> "benj" Jacoby <benj@nobody.net> repeated himself:
> 1x > On 2/13/2017 4:31 PM, benj wrote:
> 2x >> On 2/11/2017 5:44 PM, benj wrote:
> 3x >>> On 2/10/2017 5:25 PM, benj wrote:
> 4x>>>> On 2/10/2017 5:22 PM, benj wrote:
> This has been really shameful exhibition. I kid you not.
>>
> hanson wrote:
> Pity, but thanks for the laughs.... ahahahahanson

Sure, Hanson, easy for you to say. You've already proved you are smarter 
than Bert and HVAC. But think of those other poor yokels here like Odd 
and Chimp who haven't even shown they are up to Bert's level level even 
if they clearly know more than Hardblow (Remember that chimp had to 
explain GS and RFQ to HVAC who is apparently as ignorant as a bag of 
Jewish Concentration Camp hair).

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#409305 — Re: Isn't this sad?

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2017-02-14 20:10 -0800
SubjectRe: Isn't this sad?
Message-ID<o80k7j$vlf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#409286
"benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 2/13/2017 7:14 PM, hanson wrote:
>>
>> "benj" Jacoby <benj@nobody.net> repeated himself:
>> 1x > On 2/13/2017 4:31 PM, benj wrote:
>> 2x >> On 2/11/2017 5:44 PM, benj wrote:
>> 3x >>> On 2/10/2017 5:25 PM, benj wrote:
>> 4x>>>> On 2/10/2017 5:22 PM, benj wrote:
>> This has been really shameful exhibition. I kid you not.
>>>
>> hanson wrote:
>> Pity, but thanks for the laughs.... ahahahahanson
>
 "benj" Jacoby wrote:
 > Sure, Hanson, easy for you to say. You've already proved you are smarter
> than Bert and HVAC. But think of those other poor yokels here like Odd and
> Chimp who haven't even shown they are up to Bert's level level even if
> they clearly know more than Hardblow (Remember that chimp had to explain
> GS and RFQ to HVAC who is apparently as ignorant as a bag of Jewish
> Concentration Camp hair).
>
hanson wrote:
Ben, your 6-liner above "has been a really shameful rendition. I kid you
not". -- <http://tinyurl.com/Loudmouth-Glazier-8Feb2017> does tripe
like that and you begin to sing like him and his Far Left Progressives.
"Isn't this sad?" Yes it is. Get a hold of yourself and produce some of your
splendid Yiddisher street corner acts, so that we all can laugh again!

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#408838

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2017-02-11 11:28 -0800
Message-ID<34ba58ec-60bd-404a-82d2-c3cdbf1e45e1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#408769
W dniu piątek, 10 lutego 2017 23:22:34 UTC+1 użytkownik benj napisał:
> UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!
> 
> You’ve all heard me talk of my fictitious “smarter than Einstein” prize 
> given to the kook theory that proves relativity wrong.  Lots of you here 
> try for it, but there is no money, just honor.
> 
> Maybe you’ve heard of the Amazing Randi ESP prize offering a million 
> dollars to anyone who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as 
> an anonymous HVAC post. The Amazing Randi who put up the money is the 
> one who gets to decide if you won!  (You didn’t!) Tee Hee!
> 
> But for all you geniuses, now is your chance to get rich and show that 
> you all are really as smart as you tell everyone you are. The Clay 
> Foundation of Cambridge Mass in the year 2000 put up a million dollars 
> each for anyone who solves any (or more) of seven of the worlds most 
> important unsolved problems of the new millennium. Clearly based on the 
> bluster of the anonymous “experts” here this should be easy money! 
> Problems can be found at www.claymath.org.

You are stupid... relaivity has been never proven,
therefore you can get but 7 shits only.

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#408882

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-11 18:08 -0500
Message-ID<589f9974$0$28948$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#408838
On 2/11/2017 2:28 PM, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> W dniu piątek, 10 lutego 2017 23:22:34 UTC+1 użytkownik benj napisał:
>> UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!
>>
>> You’ve all heard me talk of my fictitious “smarter than Einstein” prize
>> given to the kook theory that proves relativity wrong.  Lots of you here
>> try for it, but there is no money, just honor.
>>
>> Maybe you’ve heard of the Amazing Randi ESP prize offering a million
>> dollars to anyone who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as
>> an anonymous HVAC post. The Amazing Randi who put up the money is the
>> one who gets to decide if you won!  (You didn’t!) Tee Hee!
>>
>> But for all you geniuses, now is your chance to get rich and show that
>> you all are really as smart as you tell everyone you are. The Clay
>> Foundation of Cambridge Mass in the year 2000 put up a million dollars
>> each for anyone who solves any (or more) of seven of the worlds most
>> important unsolved problems of the new millennium. Clearly based on the
>> bluster of the anonymous “experts” here this should be easy money!
>> Problems can be found at www.claymath.org.
>
> You are stupid... relaivity has been never proven,
> therefore you can get but 7 shits only.
>
Are you a former winner of the "Smarter than Einstein" prize? In which 
year did you win?

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#408891

Fromalsor@interia.pl
Date2017-02-11 18:04 -0800
Message-ID<9f062401-038d-4501-9280-883988bd3145@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#408882
W dniu niedziela, 12 lutego 2017 00:08:37 UTC+1 użytkownik benj napisał:
> On 2/11/2017 2:28 PM, alsor@interia.pl wrote:
> > W dniu piątek, 10 lutego 2017 23:22:34 UTC+1 użytkownik benj napisał:
> >> UP TO $7,000,000 IF YOU ARE SMART!
> >>
> >> You’ve all heard me talk of my fictitious “smarter than Einstein” prize
> >> given to the kook theory that proves relativity wrong.  Lots of you here
> >> try for it, but there is no money, just honor.
> >>
> >> Maybe you’ve heard of the Amazing Randi ESP prize offering a million
> >> dollars to anyone who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as
> >> an anonymous HVAC post. The Amazing Randi who put up the money is the
> >> one who gets to decide if you won!  (You didn’t!) Tee Hee!
> >>
> >> But for all you geniuses, now is your chance to get rich and show that
> >> you all are really as smart as you tell everyone you are. The Clay
> >> Foundation of Cambridge Mass in the year 2000 put up a million dollars
> >> each for anyone who solves any (or more) of seven of the worlds most
> >> important unsolved problems of the new millennium. Clearly based on the
> >> bluster of the anonymous “experts” here this should be easy money!
> >> Problems can be found at www.claymath.org.
> >
> > You are stupid... relaivity has been never proven,
> > therefore you can get but 7 shits only.
> >
> Are you a former winner of the "Smarter than Einstein" prize? In which 
> year did you win?

I'm still winning... for a 40 years about.

The my award I put on charity... mainly for the care and treatment of the orphans strongly maimed by the relativistic delusions.

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#409147

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-02-14 14:52 +1100
Message-ID<egfd8oFdb9aU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#408769
On 11/02/2017 9:22 AM, benj wrote:

> Maybe you’ve heard of the Amazing Randi ESP prize offering a million
> dollars to anyone who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as
> an anonymous HVAC post. The Amazing Randi who put up the money is the
> one who gets to decide if you won!  (You didn’t!) Tee Hee!

That untrue. The criteria for success were agreed in advance with the 
person claiming to have psychic powers. Few people progressed beyond 
that to actually making an attempt. None succeeded.

Sylvia.

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#409288

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-14 18:49 -0500
Message-ID<58a3979e$0$63534$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#409147
On 2/13/2017 10:52 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 11/02/2017 9:22 AM, benj wrote:
>
>> Maybe you’ve heard of the Amazing Randi ESP prize offering a million
>> dollars to anyone who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as
>> an anonymous HVAC post. The Amazing Randi who put up the money is the
>> one who gets to decide if you won!  (You didn’t!) Tee Hee!
>
> That untrue. The criteria for success were agreed in advance with the
> person claiming to have psychic powers. Few people progressed beyond
> that to actually making an attempt. None succeeded.
>
> Sylvia.
>
You are lying (or mistaken...probably the former) The Amazing Randi 
(just the perfect name for a scientist, don't you think) always retained 
final say over whether conditions were met. Those were the rules not the 
ones you just made up. The rules were carefully designed to only sound 
fair but not actually be fair...you know the way you Libs always try to 
do things.

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#409291

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-02-15 12:06 +1100
Message-ID<eghnsgFrvqpU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#409288
On 15/02/2017 10:49 AM, benj wrote:
> On 2/13/2017 10:52 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 11/02/2017 9:22 AM, benj wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe you’ve heard of the Amazing Randi ESP prize offering a million
>>> dollars to anyone who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as
>>> an anonymous HVAC post. The Amazing Randi who put up the money is the
>>> one who gets to decide if you won!  (You didn’t!) Tee Hee!
>>
>> That untrue. The criteria for success were agreed in advance with the
>> person claiming to have psychic powers. Few people progressed beyond
>> that to actually making an attempt. None succeeded.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
> You are lying (or mistaken...probably the former) The Amazing Randi
> (just the perfect name for a scientist, don't you think) always retained
> final say over whether conditions were met. Those were the rules not the
> ones you just made up. The rules were carefully designed to only sound
> fair but not actually be fair...you know the way you Libs always try to
> do things.

Can you cite a single case where the agreed objectives were met, but 
Randi deemed them not to have been?

Sylvia.

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#409292

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-02-14 20:43 -0500
Message-ID<58a3b226$0$9536$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#409291
On 2/14/2017 8:06 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 15/02/2017 10:49 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 2/13/2017 10:52 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 11/02/2017 9:22 AM, benj wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe you’ve heard of the Amazing Randi ESP prize offering a million
>>>> dollars to anyone who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as bogus as
>>>> an anonymous HVAC post. The Amazing Randi who put up the money is the
>>>> one who gets to decide if you won!  (You didn’t!) Tee Hee!
>>>
>>> That untrue. The criteria for success were agreed in advance with the
>>> person claiming to have psychic powers. Few people progressed beyond
>>> that to actually making an attempt. None succeeded.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>> You are lying (or mistaken...probably the former) The Amazing Randi
>> (just the perfect name for a scientist, don't you think) always retained
>> final say over whether conditions were met. Those were the rules not the
>> ones you just made up. The rules were carefully designed to only sound
>> fair but not actually be fair...you know the way you Libs always try to
>> do things.
>
> Can you cite a single case where the agreed objectives were met, but
> Randi deemed them not to have been?

Excellent misdirection! Do you do magic? Does not matter nobody met 
first objectives. That is just the first phase. What matters is that 
final phase was Randi's choice. I did not say he wiggled out of paying I 
simply pointed out that paying or not was his final choice. You call 
that a fair test?

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#409296

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-02-15 13:09 +1100
Message-ID<eghrjgFsl44U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#409292
On 15/02/2017 12:43 PM, benj wrote:
> On 2/14/2017 8:06 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 15/02/2017 10:49 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 2/13/2017 10:52 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 11/02/2017 9:22 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you’ve heard of the Amazing Randi ESP prize offering a million
>>>>> dollars to anyone who proves ESP is real. But that prize is as
>>>>> bogus as
>>>>> an anonymous HVAC post. The Amazing Randi who put up the money is the
>>>>> one who gets to decide if you won!  (You didn’t!) Tee Hee!
>>>>
>>>> That untrue. The criteria for success were agreed in advance with the
>>>> person claiming to have psychic powers. Few people progressed beyond
>>>> that to actually making an attempt. None succeeded.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>
>>> You are lying (or mistaken...probably the former) The Amazing Randi
>>> (just the perfect name for a scientist, don't you think) always retained
>>> final say over whether conditions were met. Those were the rules not the
>>> ones you just made up. The rules were carefully designed to only sound
>>> fair but not actually be fair...you know the way you Libs always try to
>>> do things.
>>
>> Can you cite a single case where the agreed objectives were met, but
>> Randi deemed them not to have been?
>
> Excellent misdirection! Do you do magic? Does not matter nobody met
> first objectives. That is just the first phase. What matters is that
> final phase was Randi's choice. I did not say he wiggled out of paying I
> simply pointed out that paying or not was his final choice. You call
> that a fair test?
>

Can you support that view with documentation?

Sylvia.

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