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Apollo 11

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  Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-27 10:57 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-01-27 16:05 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Juliana Auerbach <jaot@tognaenn.org> - 2017-01-28 00:18 +0000
        Re: Apollo 11 JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-01-27 16:41 -0800
          Re: Apollo 11 Juliana Auerbach <jaot@tognaenn.org> - 2017-01-28 01:14 +0000
            Re: Apollo 11 JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-01-28 11:33 -0800
              Re: Apollo 11 Juliana Auerbach <jaot@tognaenn.org> - 2017-01-28 20:22 +0000
            Re: Apollo 11 JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-01-28 11:34 -0800
              Re: Apollo 11 Juliana Auerbach <jaot@tognaenn.org> - 2017-01-28 20:19 +0000
                Re: Apollo 11 JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-01-28 17:21 -0800
                  Re: Apollo 11 Juanita Forney <iatiet@oetnnrn.org> - 2017-01-30 12:33 +0000
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-27 16:46 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-28 12:48 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-28 13:16 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-29 13:04 +1100
      Re: Apollo 11 John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-02-10 17:08 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-28 13:24 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-28 13:34 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-01-29 07:36 +0100
      Re: Apollo 11 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-29 03:20 -0800
        Re: Apollo 11 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-01-29 20:16 +0100
          Re: Apollo 11 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-29 12:07 -0800
            Re: Apollo 11 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-02-01 06:24 +0100
          Re: Apollo 11 "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-01-29 22:43 +0100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-29 12:05 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-29 15:27 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-29 15:40 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-30 12:37 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-31 11:18 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-30 15:58 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-30 16:18 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-31 11:22 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-30 16:42 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-31 12:13 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-31 10:01 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-01 12:14 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-01-31 14:51 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-01 12:24 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-02 12:11 +1100
      Re: Apollo 11 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-01 21:35 -0800
        Re: Apollo 11 "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-01 22:05 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-01 15:39 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-02 11:37 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-03 09:40 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-02 15:22 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-03 11:52 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-03 11:55 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-04 11:44 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-03 15:25 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-04 12:49 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-05 12:07 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-05 12:16 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-06 08:35 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-06 11:49 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-07 10:58 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-07 13:32 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-08 12:49 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-08 11:13 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-09 12:34 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-09 11:11 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-10 10:53 +1100
      Re: Apollo 11 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-12 11:09 -0800
        Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-13 11:52 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-10 11:01 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 11:42 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-11 11:21 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-12 12:00 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-12 11:44 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-13 11:51 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-12 13:43 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-13 10:23 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 09:54 -0800
      Re: Apollo 11 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-15 14:26 +1100
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 10:49 -0800
    Re: Apollo 11 numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 10:52 -0800

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#408678

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-02-10 10:53 +1100
Message-ID<eg4dngF71vrU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#408652
On 10/02/2017 6:11 AM, numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:
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> Dear Sylvia,                                   February 9, 2017
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>
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> Greeting, do you concede (Y/N)? Thank you.

Concede what?

Sylvia.

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#408948

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-12 11:09 -0800
Message-ID<58A0B2E9.18D2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#408652
numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Dear Sylvia,                                   February 9, 2017
> 
> Greeting, do you concede (Y/N)? Thank you.
> 
> Sincerely yours,
> 
> Ben

if she doesn't want to answer your question, she doesn't have to...


you're going to make Sylvia cry.

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#408989

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-02-13 11:52 +1100
Message-ID<egce9vFpm5lU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#408948
On 13/02/2017 6:09 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sylvia,                                   February 9, 2017
>>
>> Greeting, do you concede (Y/N)? Thank you.
>>
>> Sincerely yours,
>>
>> Ben
>
> if she doesn't want to answer your question, she doesn't have to...
>
>
> you're going to make Sylvia cry.
>

Possibly, but only over the stupidity of fellow man.

Sylvia.

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#408747

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2017-02-10 11:01 -0800
Message-ID<27fa388e-428d-4dc7-a97a-c8ea421db29f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#406986
Sylvia,                   February 10, 2017



"The value of r1 is known to be 4,670 km." 



OK, Please show me the derivation of the value of r1. Thank you.



Ben

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#408780

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-02-11 11:42 +1100
Message-ID<eg74viFno1dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#408747
On 11/02/2017 6:01 AM, numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:
> Sylvia,                   February 10, 2017
>
>
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> "The value of r1 is known to be 4,670 km."
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> OK, Please show me the derivation of the value of r1. Thank you.
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> Ben
>
I've told you how it can be derived. I don't have access to the relevant 
data. If your understand of geometry is so lacking that you can't see it 
already, then there's no way I can ever convince you.

Also, given that this thread related to the trajectory of Apollo 11, 
I've already explained that it can be calculated by reference to 
measurements performed of the trajectories of earlier craft that went to 
the Moon.

Your original thesis relating to the requirement for an accurate value 
for G is fundamentally flawed. If you still don't get that, then there's 
I really don't know how else to explain it to you.

Sylvia.

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#408835

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2017-02-11 11:21 -0800
Message-ID<088f1d17-7192-4add-84ad-420cecea0bae@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#406986


Sylvia,                                                     Feb. 11 2017



"I don't have access to the relevant data."


If you do not have access to the relevant data, how did you obtain the value of r1 = 4,670 km. Thank you.



Sincerely Yours,



Ben

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#408890

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-02-12 12:00 +1100
Message-ID<eg9qdjF9hmnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#408835
On 12/02/2017 6:21 AM, numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:
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> Sylvia,                                                     Feb. 11
> 2017
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> "I don't have access to the relevant data."
>
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> If you do not have access to the relevant data, how did you obtain
> the value of r1 = 4,670 km. Thank you.

I said it was known to be that. It's given in the Wikipedia article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter

Sylvia

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#408953

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2017-02-12 11:44 -0800
Message-ID<b78ad782-0048-46d5-b628-b7bfe951922a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#406986
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter 


This method requires the mass of the earth and the moon. The mass of the earth is determine using F = ma and F = G m1m2/r^2 but as previously stated the value of G determined by Cavendish's experiment is physically invalid.

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#408988

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-02-13 11:51 +1100
Message-ID<egce90Fpm5lU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#408953
On 13/02/2017 6:44 AM, numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter
>
>
> This method requires the mass of the earth and the moon. The mass of
> the earth is determine using F = ma and F = G m1m2/r^2 but as
> previously stated the value of G determined by Cavendish's experiment
> is physically invalid.
>

Round and round. You clearly don't, or possibly refuse to, get it.

Sylvia.

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#408971

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2017-02-12 13:43 -0800
Message-ID<5b2a19a1-08bd-466c-bfe8-c90b3047b169@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#406986


Dear Sylvia,                                   February Sunday 12, 2017 



Greeting, do you finally concede? Thank you.


In God we trust.


Ben 




.

.

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#409078

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2017-02-13 10:23 -0800
Message-ID<bd6034dd-1e26-4590-b343-109326fb156c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#406986
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter 


Does this method require the mass the earth and the moon?


Ben

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#409229

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2017-02-14 09:54 -0800
Message-ID<39ac3df1-572d-4db0-a419-f746e4c6ed34@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#406986
How do you calculate the mass of the earth?

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#409304

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2017-02-15 14:26 +1100
Message-ID<egi03pFteflU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#409229
On 15/02/2017 4:54 AM, numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote:
> How do you calculate the mass of the earth?
>

You take the acceleration due to gravity at its surface at the pole, and 
apply the universal law of gravitation, which involves knowing the value 
of the constant G.

But a relevant question is "Why do you want to calculate the mass of the 
Earth?"

Sylvia.

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#409240

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2017-02-14 10:49 -0800
Message-ID<e43fbdc3-7955-4aa9-8a85-47bbf8f0e7fb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#406986
https://www.google.com/search?q=victory&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwil6cGUoJDSAhUCs1QKHa3pCJgQ_AUICCgB&biw=1600&bih=783#imgrc=WLysTxcFpp1EaM:

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#409242

Fromnumbernumber1964@gmail.com
Date2017-02-14 10:52 -0800
Message-ID<ff672e3d-8532-40b5-a14b-4fb8773c80aa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#406986
https://www.google.com/search?q=bitch&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCx7HXoJDSAhWmgFQKHQFjD7sQ_AUICCgB&biw=1600&bih=783#imgrc=wO4yud4tadxEpM:

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