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The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat

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  The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-01 15:25 -0800
    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-02 20:12 +1100
      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 05:29 -0800
        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-03 13:10 +1100
          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 18:41 -0800
            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-03 13:53 +1100
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:24 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-04 16:04 +1100
                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 22:01 -0800
                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-04 19:18 +1100
                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:16 -0800
                        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:30 -0800
                          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:34 -0800
                            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 06:54 -0800
                          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 10:33 -0800
                        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 11:23 +1100
                          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 16:53 -0800
                            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 12:36 +1100
                              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:37 -0800
                                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 13:56 +1100
                                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 19:09 -0800
                                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 15:41 +1100
                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 20:46 -0800
                                        Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 15:50 +1100
                                          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 21:15 -0800
                                            Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-05 22:14 +1100
                                              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:15 -0800
                                                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:35 -0800
                                                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-06 11:07 +1100
                                                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:07 -0800
                                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-06 13:22 +1100
                                                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:15 -0800
                                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:20 -0800
                                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:27 -0800
                                                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-06 11:01 +1100
                                      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 20:46 -0800
                                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 19:10 -0800
                                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 19:25 -0800
                                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 20:39 -0800
                              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:48 -0800
                                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-04 18:54 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:33 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:36 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:45 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:42 -0800
              Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 20:19 -0800
                Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-03 22:01 +1100
                  Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 06:26 -0800
                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 06:30 -0800
                    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 06:34 -0800
          Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-02 19:46 -0800
    Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 07:57 -0800
      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 09:48 -0800
      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 09:50 -0800
      Re: The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-05 18:40 -0800

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#400810

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-04 18:54 -0800
Message-ID<ecfbbb78-d770-4640-8520-333c98c75588@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400809
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 8:48:51 PM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 7:36:46 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > OK ... Change it to what looks "more Correct" to You and Let me SEE ... OK ??
> > >
> > > Here is your Bare wood .. start Chiseling..
> > >
> > > (((137036^4) * (6.67406745595e-11^2)) * 2) = pi
> > >
> > >
> > > which looks Surprisingly like the inverse of Kinetic energy
> > >
> > 
> > Now you have a equation consisting entirely of numbers, yet you seem to 
> > think it has some physical significance.
> > 
> > Sylvia.
> > 
> > > Ke = (m*v^2)/2
> > >
> 
> 
> Here ... I fixed it for you Just Use the Below instead of alpha .... OK ??
> 
> (((pi / 2e+12)^0.5) / 6.67406745595e-11)^0.5 = 137.036

It is STILL the inverse of Kinetic Energy 

Sylvia , Show me some Examples of your Mathematics work please before asking me Any new Questions ....

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#400649

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-02 19:33 -0800
Message-ID<33614d59-8a2d-4371-957c-17fe2c3b1bae@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400647
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>> Sylvia Else
> >>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> >>>>
> >>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> >>>
> >>> Sylvia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> >>>
> >>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> >>>
> >>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> >>>
> >>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> >>>
> >>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> >>>
> >>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> >>>
> >>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> >>>
> >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> >> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> >> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> >> deeper problem?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> >
> 
> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is 
> not the same as being steady.
> 
> Sylvia.

(0.5109989461 * ((30.299792458^2) * 2)) / 938.2720813 = 1.0000011829 

(30.299792458^2) * 2 = 1836.154846 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton-to-electron_mass_ratio

30.299792458 = 0.5/G + c = 30266469558

2.99666771e+10 + 299792458 = 30266469558


((2.99666771e+10 + 299792458)^2) * 2e-18 = 1832.1183590

Are you just testing me , or do you have some sort of MENTAL Block & cannot see Clearly that the proton electron ratio is a Mass Gravity Reaction ? 

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#400650

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-02 19:36 -0800
Message-ID<dd026829-1925-4ece-a9f7-b67af14cc05c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400649
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 9:34:00 PM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > >> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > >>> Sylvia Else
> > >>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> > >>>>
> > >>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sylvia
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> > >>>
> > >>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> > >>>
> > >>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> > >>>
> > >>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> > >>>
> > >>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> > >>>
> > >>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> > >>>
> > >>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> > >>>
> > >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> > >> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> > >> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> > >> deeper problem?
> > >>
> > >> Sylvia.
> > >
> > > It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> > >
> > 
> > It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is 
> > not the same as being steady.
> > 
> > Sylvia.
> 
> (0.5109989461 * ((30.299792458^2) * 2)) / 938.2720813 = 1.0000011829 
> 
> (30.299792458^2) * 2 = 1836.154846 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton-to-electron_mass_ratio
> 
> 30.299792458 = 0.5/G + c = 30266469558
> 
> 2.99666771e+10 + 299792458 = 30266469558
> 
> 
> ((2.99666771e+10 + 299792458)^2) * 2e-18 = 1832.1183590
> 
> Are you just testing me , or do you have some sort of MENTAL Block & cannot see Clearly that the proton electron ratio is a Mass Gravity Reaction ?

http://i63.tinypic.com/2nrkp68.jpg

http://planetstar.wikia.com/wiki/Feynmanium

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#400652

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-02 19:45 -0800
Message-ID<a79f785e-4c0c-446c-a9e9-ab5cac9befaa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400649
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 9:34:00 PM UTC-6, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > >> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > >>> Sylvia Else
> > >>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> > >>>>
> > >>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sylvia
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> > >>>
> > >>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> > >>>
> > >>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> > >>>
> > >>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> > >>>
> > >>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> > >>>
> > >>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> > >>>
> > >>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> > >>>
> > >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> > >> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> > >> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> > >> deeper problem?
> > >>
> > >> Sylvia.
> > >
> > > It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> > >
> > 
> > It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is 
> > not the same as being steady.
> > 
> > Sylvia.
> 
> (0.5109989461 * ((30.299792458^2) * 2)) / 938.2720813 = 1.0000011829 
> 
> (30.299792458^2) * 2 = 1836.154846 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton-to-electron_mass_ratio
> 
> 30.299792458 = 0.5/G + c = 30266469558
> 
> 2.99666771e+10 + 299792458 = 30266469558
> 
> 
> ((2.99666771e+10 + 299792458)^2) * 2e-18 = 1832.1183590
> 
> Are you just testing me , or do you have some sort of MENTAL Block & cannot see Clearly that the proton electron ratio is a Mass Gravity Reaction ?
30.299792458 = 0.5/G + c = 30266469558 

2.99666771e+10 + 299792458 = 30266469558 


((2/G + c)^2) * 2e-18 = 1832.1183590 

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#400651

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-02 19:42 -0800
Message-ID<98a20e12-4a20-4518-8d59-e6f3e5cd71e0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400647
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>> Sylvia Else
> >>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> >>>>
> >>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> >>>
> >>> Sylvia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> >>>
> >>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> >>>
> >>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> >>>
> >>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> >>>
> >>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> >>>
> >>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> >>>
> >>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> >>>
> >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> >> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> >> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> >> deeper problem?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> >
> 
> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is 
> not the same as being steady.
> 
> Sylvia.

Use your REAL Name, Nym Shyfter

Wayne Static- Nym Shyfter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAN8ZTifIVQ

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#400654

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-02 20:19 -0800
Message-ID<0dd8d240-4478-4f36-8222-dd516a33aa5b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400647
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>> Sylvia Else
> >>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> >>>>
> >>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> >>>
> >>> Sylvia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> >>>
> >>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> >>>
> >>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> >>>
> >>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> >>>
> >>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
> >>>
> >>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> >>>
> >>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> >>>
> >>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
> >> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
> >> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
> >> deeper problem?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
> >
> 
> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is 
> not the same as being steady.
> 
> Sylvia.

1 / ((30299792458^2) / (1.23558996e+20 * (2 * pi))) = 0.84561938763 .... Compton Frequency

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#400673

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-12-03 22:01 +1100
Message-ID<eafmvuFckr0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#400654
On 3/12/2016 3:19 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:53:06 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 3/12/2016 1:41 PM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>> Sylvia Else
>>>>> On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sylvia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
>>>>>
>>>>> In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
>>>>>
>>>>> This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
>>>>>
>>>>> All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
>>>>>
>>>>> & the fourth root of c is 131.
>>>>>
>>>>> 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
>>>>>
>>>>> (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
>>>>>
>>>>> ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish?
>>>> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who
>>>> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much
>>>> deeper problem?
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> It is "Mostly a Steady rate of flow" and a has Predictable rate of change in flow
>>>
>>
>> It's not mostly steady - it varies continuously. Being predictable is
>> not the same as being steady.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> 1 / ((30299792458^2) / (1.23558996e+20 * (2 * pi))) = 0.84561938763 .... Compton Frequency
>
My goodness - 6 replies to my 1. Someone's had his cage rattled.

Sylvia.

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#400686

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-03 06:26 -0800
Message-ID<9f42fae0-9e82-4cfb-be6d-bac502a36793@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400673
Sylvia Else

My goodness - 6 replies to my 1. Someone's had his cage rattled. 

Sylvia. 

Are you just like a Sports Commentator with no real skill or talent  in the sport you are commenting on? 

Are you like the radio commentator for the Hindenburg crash ?

Should you Nymshyft to Vin Scully ?

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#400688

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-03 06:30 -0800
Message-ID<665712eb-94f4-485e-bc0a-330e5ed39e97@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400686
Sylvia Else

My goodness - 6 replies to my 1. Someone's had his cage rattled. 

Sylvia. 

You just be Trollin...

(((15 * 2) + 0.3)^2) * 2 = 1836.18

((e * cos(137035.9991232535539893 radians)) - 1) / phi = 1

((137036^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) =  1.00000376 

((137035.8713^4) * (G^2)) / (pi / 2) = 1

(30.299792458^2) * 2 = 1836.154846 

(5109989.461 * ((30.299792458^2) * 2)) / 938.2720813 = 10000011.829

((2/G + c)^2) * 2e-18 = 1832.1183590



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#400689

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-03 06:34 -0800
Message-ID<86b436b8-cb1f-455e-bbea-b2ffc59afe77@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400686
Sylvia Else 

My goodness - 6 replies to my 1. Someone's had his cage rattled. 

Sylvia. 

You must have some actual work of your own on the internet you can point me too .....
Oh that's right you can't cause you're just a troll 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY

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#400653

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-02 19:46 -0800
Message-ID<78571756-509f-4f28-8d5c-ce42d01407b7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400643
On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 3/12/2016 12:29 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > Sylvia Else
> > On 2/12/2016 10:25 AM, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >>
> >> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> >>
> > I'm pretty sure that it doesn't.
> >
> > Sylvia
> >
> >
> > To provide just a little reasoning behind my guess
> >
> > In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as Sommerfeld's constant, commonly denoted α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant characterizing the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.
> >
> > This would directly influence the Quantum Physical creation of particle pair creation from the vacuum and the initial conditions of & resultant effects to the volume of spacetime.
> >
> > All along I have been saying a mass energy scalar per cubic meter needs to be derived.
> >
> > & the fourth root of c is 131.
> >
> > 299792458^(1 / 4) = 131.584633668
> >
> > (137036^4) * (G^2) * 2 = 3.14160446
> >
> > ((137036^4) * (G^2) * 2) / pi = 1.00000376
> >
> >
> >
> 
> What's the point of ignoring my comment and just adding more gibberish? 
> You thought something about tubs that is obviously wrong to anyone who 
> thinks about the physics, yet you expect to be taken seriously on a much 
> deeper problem?
> 
> Sylvia.

OBFUSCATION & DERAILMENT

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#400860

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-05 07:57 -0800
Message-ID<50fa84fa-29c7-4a0e-a066-6234d4e44d71@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400521
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 1:25:23 PM UTC-10, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat as a combination of a governor & a Throttle. 
> Too much = photons are radiated 
> Too little Gravity compacts it. 
> 
> If  ((1.5e+10*2+299792458)*1e-9)^2*2 = 1836.154846 is Accurate then the proton electron ratio is a mediator between energy, gravity & the volume of spacetime.   
> 
> Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.

Alpha has been included in the Gravity Volume Theory. Unifying electromagnetism and gravity in the two Planck Constant derivations provides the Folmsbee Relation :

m /(r*alpha) = q / (4 pi a0) = 2.41 Angstroms

where m is proton mass, r is proton radius, q is proton charge, a0 is Bohr Radius.

alpha = 4 pi m a0 / (r*q) = 1/137.5

The units can be dimensionless when the mass=area theorem is used. Using Olde Science units

alpha = (1/137) kilograms per Coulomb

Alpha does not make space time flat, alpha is a ratio describing a nuclear and atomic balance of nature. Charge is dynamically balanced with mass to allow orbitals of radius from a0=.526 Angstroms to 2.41 Angstroms.

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#400868

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-05 09:48 -0800
Message-ID<a13c491d-1cb2-4d02-88e7-06745697fa62@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400860
On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 9:57:02 AM UTC-6, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 1:25:23 PM UTC-10, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat as a combination of a governor & a Throttle. 
> > Too much = photons are radiated 
> > Too little Gravity compacts it. 
> > 
> > If  ((1.5e+10*2+299792458)*1e-9)^2*2 = 1836.154846 is Accurate then the proton electron ratio is a mediator between energy, gravity & the volume of spacetime.   
> > 
> > Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> 
> Alpha has been included in the Gravity Volume Theory. Unifying electromagnetism and gravity in the two Planck Constant derivations provides the Folmsbee Relation :
> 
> m /(r*alpha) = q / (4 pi a0) = 2.41 Angstroms
> 
> where m is proton mass, r is proton radius, q is proton charge, a0 is Bohr Radius.
> 
> alpha = 4 pi m a0 / (r*q) = 1/137.5
> 
> The units can be dimensionless when the mass=area theorem is used. Using Olde Science units
> 
> alpha = (1/137) kilograms per Coulomb
> 
> Alpha does not make space time flat, alpha is a ratio describing a nuclear and atomic balance of nature. Charge is dynamically balanced with mass to allow orbitals of radius from a0=.526 Angstroms to 2.41 Angstroms.

Yes ... I had Already thought about that 

As your theory seem to be based on Surface area, the expanding surface area of the proton IS GRAVITY as a warping / curvature of Time in relation to space

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#400869

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-05 09:50 -0800
Message-ID<678445d0-4618-4be9-80f5-81df6987c770@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400860
On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 9:57:02 AM UTC-6, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 1:25:23 PM UTC-10, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat as a combination of a governor & a Throttle. 
> > Too much = photons are radiated 
> > Too little Gravity compacts it. 
> > 
> > If  ((1.5e+10*2+299792458)*1e-9)^2*2 = 1836.154846 is Accurate then the proton electron ratio is a mediator between energy, gravity & the volume of spacetime.   
> > 
> > Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> 
> Alpha has been included in the Gravity Volume Theory. Unifying electromagnetism and gravity in the two Planck Constant derivations provides the Folmsbee Relation :
> 
> m /(r*alpha) = q / (4 pi a0) = 2.41 Angstroms
> 
> where m is proton mass, r is proton radius, q is proton charge, a0 is Bohr Radius.
> 
> alpha = 4 pi m a0 / (r*q) = 1/137.5
> 
> The units can be dimensionless when the mass=area theorem is used. Using Olde Science units
> 
> alpha = (1/137) kilograms per Coulomb
> 
> Alpha does not make space time flat, alpha is a ratio describing a nuclear and atomic balance of nature. Charge is dynamically balanced with mass to allow orbitals of radius from a0=.526 Angstroms to 2.41 Angstroms.

I knew you would connect the Dots ..

That is why I offered you, on contingency, $(c/300) for Advertising & P.R.

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#400921

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-05 18:40 -0800
Message-ID<30248f81-5632-4648-9921-28beeaf1fa40@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#400860
On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 9:57:02 AM UTC-6, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 1:25:23 PM UTC-10, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > The Fine Structure Constant causes space-time to be Flat as a combination of a governor & a Throttle. 
> > Too much = photons are radiated 
> > Too little Gravity compacts it. 
> > 
> > If  ((1.5e+10*2+299792458)*1e-9)^2*2 = 1836.154846 is Accurate then the proton electron ratio is a mediator between energy, gravity & the volume of spacetime.   
> > 
> > Space time is flat for the same reason water drains out of your tub drain at a steady rate.
> 
> Alpha has been included in the Gravity Volume Theory. Unifying electromagnetism and gravity in the two Planck Constant derivations provides the Folmsbee Relation :
> 
> m /(r*alpha) = q / (4 pi a0) = 2.41 Angstroms
> 
> where m is proton mass, r is proton radius, q is proton charge, a0 is Bohr Radius.
> 
> alpha = 4 pi m a0 / (r*q) = 1/137.5
> 
> The units can be dimensionless when the mass=area theorem is used. Using Olde Science units
> 
> alpha = (1/137) kilograms per Coulomb
> 
> Alpha does not make space time flat, alpha is a ratio describing a nuclear and atomic balance of nature. Charge is dynamically balanced with mass to allow orbitals of radius from a0=.526 Angstroms to 2.41 Angstroms.

Alpha does not make space time flat, alpha is a ratio describing a nuclear and atomic balance of nature. 

Charge is dynamically balanced with mass to allow orbitals of radius from a0=.526 Angstroms to 2.41 Angstroms. 

But ... (orbitals of radius from a0=.526 Angstroms to 2.41 Angstroms) are based on Time and Distance which is directly transferable to the impedance to the vacuum & c & 3.33564095e-9 second.

Making The Vacuum of free space equivalent to the Quantum Mechanical Aether of Susskind based on Alpha .... Watch for 4 or 5 minutes https://youtu.be/OBPpRqxY8Uw?t=1h28m41s 

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