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The relationship G and g

Started byPeter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk>
First post2016-11-19 15:14 -0800
Last post2016-11-24 21:37 -0800
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  The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 15:14 -0800
    Re: The relationship G and g moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-19 23:48 +0000
      Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 19:35 -0800
        Re: The relationship G and g moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-20 14:57 +0000
          Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 16:10 -0800
            Re: The relationship G and g "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-20 17:27 -0800
        Re: The relationship G and g Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 22:06 +0100
          Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 16:15 -0800
        Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 15:19 -0600
          Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 16:18 -0800
            Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-20 21:22 -0800
              Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 23:47 -0800
                Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-21 05:22 -0800
                  Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-21 16:26 -0800
                    Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-21 17:28 -0800
                      Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-21 23:04 -0800
                        Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-22 05:05 -0800
                          Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-22 16:14 -0800
                            Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-22 17:42 -0800
                              Re: The relationship G and g "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-22 17:53 -0800
                              Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-22 19:17 -0800
                                Cretin Peter Riedt hard at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-22 19:31 -0800
                                  Re: Cretin Peter Riedt hard at work "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-22 21:28 -0800
                                  Re: Cretin Peter Riedt hard at work Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-22 22:44 -0800
                                    Re: Cretin Peter Riedt hard at work Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-23 04:24 -0800
                                    Re: Cretin Peter Riedt hard at work "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-23 06:26 -0800
                                    Re: Cretin Peter Riedt hard at work Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:40 -0600
                                Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-23 04:21 -0800
                                Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:30 -0600
                                  Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-23 16:24 -0800
                                    Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-23 17:23 -0800
                                      Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-23 18:40 -0800
                                        Re: The relationship G and g "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-23 19:04 -0800
                                          Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-23 19:35 -0800
                                            Re: The relationship G and g "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-24 07:06 -0800
                                        Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-23 19:12 -0800
                                          Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-23 19:32 -0800
                                            Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-23 20:19 -0800
                                              Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-24 01:47 -0800
                                                Cretin Peter Riedt perseveres "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-24 07:08 -0800
                                                Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-24 08:42 -0800
                                                Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 10:10 -0600
                                                  Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-26 14:29 -0800
                                                  Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-26 14:35 -0800
                                                    Re: The relationship G and g "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-26 14:49 -0800
                                                    Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 08:23 -0600
                                          Re: The relationship G and g xxein1@att.net - 2016-11-24 07:20 -0800
                                            Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-24 18:05 -0800
                                              Re: The relationship G and g Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-24 21:03 -0600
                                                Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-24 19:46 -0800
                                                  Pathetic crank Peter Riedt perseveres in his imbecility "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-24 20:00 -0800
                                                  Re: The relationship G and g "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-24 20:15 -0800
                                                    Re: The relationship G and g "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-24 23:27 -0800
                                                  Re: The relationship G and g Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-25 03:12 -0800
                                                  Re: The relationship G and g Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-25 03:19 -0800
                                                  Re: The relationship G and g Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-25 06:36 -0800
                                                  Re: The relationship G and g Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-25 07:08 -0800
                                                    Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-25 18:30 -0800
                                              Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 10:26 -0600
                                                Re: The relationship G and g "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-26 08:47 -0800
                                                Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-26 14:33 -0800
                                            Re: The relationship G and g "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-24 19:18 -0800
                                        Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 10:08 -0600
                                          Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-27 01:55 -0800
                                            Re: The relationship G and g Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-27 04:04 -0800
                                            Peter Riedt discloses his new cretinisms "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-27 05:39 -0800
                                            Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 08:24 -0600
                                    Cretin Peter Riedt hard at work embarrassing himself "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-23 17:36 -0800
                                    Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 10:06 -0600
                                      Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-26 14:27 -0800
                    Re: The relationship G and g "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-21 17:38 -0800
                      Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-21 22:57 -0800
                        Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 07:43 -0600
                          Re: The relationship G and g Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-22 14:03 +0000
                            Re: The relationship G and g Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 08:57 -0800
                              Re: The relationship G and g Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-22 17:23 +0000
                          Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-22 16:07 -0800
                            Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:28 -0600
                              Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-23 16:29 -0800
                    Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 07:09 -0600
                      Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-22 19:30 -0800
                        Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:33 -0600
                          Re: The relationship G and g "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-23 07:48 -0800
                            Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 10:25 -0600
                              Re: The relationship G and g "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-23 08:47 -0800
                Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 08:08 -0600
            Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 08:02 -0600
    Re: The relationship G and g patdolan@comcast.net - 2016-11-19 15:55 -0800
      Re: The relationship G and g "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-19 16:07 -0800
      Re: The relationship G and g Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-19 17:07 -0800
    Re: The relationship G and g Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-11-19 16:55 -0800
    Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 15:17 -0600
      Re: The relationship G and g Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 16:16 -0800
        Re: The relationship G and g Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 08:01 -0600
          Re: The relationship G and g "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-21 06:04 -0800
    Re: The relationship G and g Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-11-25 15:19 +1100
      Re: The relationship G and g "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-24 21:37 -0800

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#399435

FromPeter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-11-22 19:30 -0800
Message-ID<6680401b-400e-40f7-ab36-fd58b4ac89c1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#399286
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 9:08:58 PM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 11/21/2016 6:26 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> > According to your definitions, the formula you quoted is useless gibberish and
> > does not provide a formula to equate G with g. It is symptomatic of GR unable
> > to answer simple questions of gravity.
> 
> Peter, I think you should at this point abandon trying to learn things 
> on usenet and instead read a book. You have a bad habit of calling 
> things gibberish if you don't understand them. This is why sitting down 
> with a book that explains each step in detail, each new term in more 
> familiar language, is a better approach.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

I know things that your textbooks do not.

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#399472

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-23 09:33 -0600
Message-ID<o14csa$e7d$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#399435
On 11/22/2016 9:30 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 9:08:58 PM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 11/21/2016 6:26 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
>>> According to your definitions, the formula you quoted is useless gibberish and
>>> does not provide a formula to equate G with g. It is symptomatic of GR unable
>>> to answer simple questions of gravity.
>>
>> Peter, I think you should at this point abandon trying to learn things
>> on usenet and instead read a book. You have a bad habit of calling
>> things gibberish if you don't understand them. This is why sitting down
>> with a book that explains each step in detail, each new term in more
>> familiar language, is a better approach.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> I know things that your textbooks do not.
>

The problem is not so much what you don't know. It's what you think you 
know that aren't so.

You still haven't answered a direct question I put to you. What is your 
problem with reading books? Why do you avoid them?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#399476

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2016-11-23 07:48 -0800
Message-ID<02c53133-cb82-4a48-aef1-1d4aa6dbb644@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#399472
On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 7:33:33 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> You still haven't answered a direct question I put to you. What is your 
> problem with reading books? Why do you avoid them?
> 
The idiot is not interested in learning, the idiot ALREADY KNOWS that "relativity is wrong". 

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#399479

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-23 10:25 -0600
Message-ID<o14ftf$ldh$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#399476
On 11/23/2016 9:48 AM, Dono, wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 7:33:33 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>
>> You still haven't answered a direct question I put to you. What is your
>> problem with reading books? Why do you avoid them?
>>
> The idiot is not interested in learning, the idiot ALREADY KNOWS that "relativity is wrong".
>

Well, no, he doesn't know that. He wants to believe it's wrong. But 
that's actually only a means to an end. The end he wants is to do 
something positive in physics, a subject he is infatuated with but 
poorly equipped to do.

Some people have been told they are stupid or slow their whole lives, 
and then at some point something snaps and they suddenly tell themselves 
that they are not really stupid and slow but in fact very bright and 
unappreciated. These are the people who now have to find excuses not to 
read books (something that is very hard for them to do), and who attempt 
to sidestep skill-building to just try to "think things through" using 
their bright and unappreciated brains.

Unfortunately, people like this only end up frustrating themselves.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#399481

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2016-11-23 08:47 -0800
Message-ID<28fb93a3-0909-4b43-aa6e-504903c9cae1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#399479
On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 8:25:22 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>  
> Some people have been told they are stupid or slow their whole lives, 
> and then at some point something snaps and they suddenly tell themselves 
> that they are not really stupid and slow but in fact very bright and 
> unappreciated. 

yep, this is a perfect characterization of the autistic imbeciles : Ken Shito, Pat Dolan, Peter Riedt, Ralph Babbage, Jan Pantelje, Pentcho Valev, etc. 

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#399164

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-21 08:08 -0600
Message-ID<o0uv50$1s7r$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#399126
On 11/21/2016 1:47 AM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 1:23:00 PM UTC+8, Gary Harnagel wrote:
>
>>
>> c^2*d^2x/ds^2 = Del[(GM/R)(1 + v∙R/cR) + terms involving acceleration.
>>
> Thank you. Please define
> c =
> d =
> x =
> ds =
> Del =
> R =
> v =
> terms involving acceleration =
>
>

Peter, he gave you a book reference. He also told you where specifically 
to look in the book reference. In other words, he has given you a 
treasure map in response to your request for treasure. I don't believe 
he is obligated to replicate the book for you online.

Is there a reason you are unable to go find the book in a bookstore and 
to sit and flip through it, looking for your answers? Are you really 
that incapacitated or that lazy?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#399162

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-21 08:02 -0600
Message-ID<o0uupk$1s7r$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#399083
On 11/20/2016 6:18 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 5:19:21 AM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 11/19/2016 9:35 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
>>> On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 7:48:18 AM UTC+8, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> The relationship G and g
>>>>
>>>>> Can GR explain the relationship of G to g? Relationship or causes, not
>>>>> definition!
>>>>
>>>> Ordinary physics can. Little 'g' is defined by big 'G', the mass of the
>>>> earth and the radius of the earth.
>>>
>>> Correct. Newton can, GR cannot.
>>>
>>
>> Not true. GR can. To find out how, I can suggest several good books on GR.
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> You always can but you do not know yourself.
>

I have read the books, Peter. If you would do the same, then you would 
know what I know. Does that not make sense?

Why do you think it's better for me to try to explain what I've read, 
rather than you reading it yourself?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#398985

Frompatdolan@comcast.net
Date2016-11-19 15:55 -0800
Message-ID<f4e959e6-95bd-4f26-8ab2-04f678e4edd4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398980
On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 3:14:53 PM UTC-8, Peter Riedt wrote:
> The relationship G and g
> 
> Can GR explain the relationship of G to g? Relationship or causes, not definition!

Is G a constant in general relativity?  Or does it's value vary depending on frame of reference?

Is there any theory where G is not constant?

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#398986

From"David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-11-19 16:07 -0800
Message-ID<c5f641c0-3364-403b-bf9e-0516282e7acf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398985
Is G a constant in general relativity?  Or does it's value vary depending on frame of reference? 

Is there any theory where G is not constant? 

G is the Slope or rate of change in the procession of seconds caused by mass. 
This skewed passage of time between two different spatial locations causes physical movement of mass towards each other to maintain a static total Kinetic Energy. 

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#398991

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-19 17:07 -0800
Message-ID<71f060f6-f2ed-4d03-9a12-2ce814862e31@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398985
On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 1:55:39 PM UTC-10, patd...@comcast.net wrote:
> On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 3:14:53 PM UTC-8, Peter Riedt wrote:
> > The relationship G and g
> > 
> > Can GR explain the relationship of G to g? Relationship or causes, not definition!
> 
> Is G a constant in general relativity?  
Yes

>Or does it's value vary depending on frame of reference?
No.


> 
> Is there any theory where G is not constant?

Yes. My "thick time" theory, where fusion changes to stronger gravity G and weaker Coulomb force.

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#398990

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-19 16:55 -0800
Message-ID<d5dd553e-94eb-4e77-a227-42a584c2c2cb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#398980
On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 1:14:53 PM UTC-10, Peter Riedt wrote:
> The relationship G and g
> 
> Can GR explain the relationship of G to g? Relationship or causes, not definition!

No, not GR. The cause of gravity is in G for Gen Rel. If baryons cause gravity then I say:

G = Volume of proton / (2 pi m * 5*10^-9 second^2)

where m is proton mass

G is a translation factor into "mass oriented force" calculations. Mass is not a cause, mass is affected by gravity.

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#399057

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-20 15:17 -0600
Message-ID<o0t3tl$177u$12@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#398980
On 11/19/2016 5:14 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> The relationship G and g
>
> Can GR explain the relationship of G to g? Relationship or causes, not definition!
>

Yes.

As you may know, g is derivable from other measured numbers.

g, as you will also surely know, varies with gravitating body and 
distance from the body, while G does not. That's because g is dependent 
on some of those variables.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#399082

FromPeter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-11-20 16:16 -0800
Message-ID<cfefb5ed-a6fe-49c2-a47b-2b5e511d05a1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#399057
On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 5:17:45 AM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 11/19/2016 5:14 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> > The relationship G and g
> >
> > Can GR explain the relationship of G to g? Relationship or causes, not definition!
> >
> 
> Yes.
> 
> As you may know, g is derivable from other measured numbers.
> 
> g, as you will also surely know, varies with gravitating body and 
> distance from the body, while G does not. That's because g is dependent 
> on some of those variables.
> 
Correct but it doesn't answer the question.

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#399161

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-21 08:01 -0600
Message-ID<o0uunu$1s7r$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#399082
On 11/20/2016 6:16 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 5:17:45 AM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 11/19/2016 5:14 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
>>> The relationship G and g
>>>
>>> Can GR explain the relationship of G to g? Relationship or causes, not definition!
>>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> As you may know, g is derivable from other measured numbers.
>>
>> g, as you will also surely know, varies with gravitating body and
>> distance from the body, while G does not. That's because g is dependent
>> on some of those variables.
>>
> Correct but it doesn't answer the question.
>

If you want to know about general relativity and how it derives things, 
don't you think it would be a better approach to pick up a book on the 
subject and read it, rather that insisting that GR has no such 
explanation and inviting people to prove you wrong?

What's your problem, exactly, with reading a book?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#399163

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2016-11-21 06:04 -0800
Message-ID<9ca3ccdd-c025-425a-9d1d-db0b55f95ad2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#399161
On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 6:01:37 AM UTC-8, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> What's your problem, exactly, with reading a book?
> 
His problem is called "mental illness". Incurable. 

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#399661

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-11-25 15:19 +1100
Message-ID<e9psf2F5926U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#398980
On 20/11/2016 10:14 AM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> The relationship G and g
>
> Can GR explain the relationship of G to g? Relationship or causes, not definition!
>

Theories do not explain. They describe. GR does the describing very well.

Sylvia.

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#399665

From"David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-11-24 21:37 -0800
Message-ID<66e30acd-4618-4b3d-ae27-1adf3580b224@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#399661
http://planckmomentum.com/black-hole-electron/black-hole-electron-dimensions.html

6.670253275813383e-11 / gravitational constant = 0.999426629

c / (1 + (((1 / 0.999426629) - 1) / 50)) = 299789018 m / s

137.0359997 * 1.00015289392 = 137.056951671

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