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| Started by | Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2016-10-22 16:31 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-11-18 10:12 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 296 — 26 participants |
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Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 16:31 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-23 04:47 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-22 20:17 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 22:16 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 08:46 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-23 21:10 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 21:59 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-24 06:34 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 07:59 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-24 22:55 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 08:23 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 08:51 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-25 08:54 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 09:39 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 09:50 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-26 07:56 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 19:41 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-31 05:54 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 07:03 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 07:53 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 11:04 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 04:47 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 07:35 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 07:58 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 08:13 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 18:55 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 19:59 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-09 08:42 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-12 19:37 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-12 19:46 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-31 22:08 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 22:49 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 22:57 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-25 05:05 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 16:42 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 01:40 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong brightontoyandmodelmuseum@gmail.com - 2016-11-07 13:26 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-07 13:33 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 15:59 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-08 06:42 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 04:17 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 22:35 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-07 13:39 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 17:06 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 08:19 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 19:23 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-07 16:40 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 22:03 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 22:08 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 04:51 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 05:26 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 04:33 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 07:23 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 19:11 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 20:03 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Nick <nick@nick.nick> - 2016-11-02 15:14 +0000
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-02 22:05 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-03 08:38 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-04 04:40 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 10:27 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-04 18:09 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-11-08 10:54 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Marion Vanriper <Marion@Vanriper.info> - 2016-11-26 10:58 +0000
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 21:51 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 21:53 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-11-01 12:14 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-14 06:42 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-22 20:16 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 21:03 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 22:14 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 03:18 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-23 12:33 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-23 16:00 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 07:18 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 07:58 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-23 21:54 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-10-23 13:46 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 15:10 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 15:16 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-10-23 16:08 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 18:13 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 20:37 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-24 14:45 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 06:55 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:43 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 19:34 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-25 14:31 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 06:49 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-25 07:58 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 17:00 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 17:07 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 20:21 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 00:03 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 23:48 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:04 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 06:21 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 06:37 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:07 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:24 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:35 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:42 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:43 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 08:10 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-29 09:32 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-29 09:33 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 07:47 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 07:55 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 11:14 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 13:14 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 13:17 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-03 06:54 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-03 21:01 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-04 18:23 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 10:31 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 01:52 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-23 02:08 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 11:24 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-10-23 11:59 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 16:48 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-23 18:38 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-10-23 11:00 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-24 11:42 +1100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 18:06 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-23 18:38 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-24 12:46 +1100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 20:00 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-24 14:24 +1100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 22:12 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-23 22:34 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:02 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 23:35 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:42 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 23:48 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:53 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 00:08 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 11:08 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 03:17 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 13:09 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-24 04:13 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:52 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 04:55 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:48 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 19:41 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 22:04 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 23:37 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 23:45 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 23:47 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 04:50 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-27 17:16 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 09:54 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:39 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:38 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:36 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:29 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 08:25 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 23:41 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 08:57 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-31 06:28 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 08:35 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 16:43 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 15:19 -0600
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-24 23:13 +1100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:46 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:27 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:30 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 05:06 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 22:53 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-01 11:36 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 23:16 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-01 16:43 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-01 17:03 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-01 20:25 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-01 20:30 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 15:21 -0600
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:24 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:33 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-27 08:28 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-27 05:50 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Walter Bautista <wabau@outlookbay.org> - 2016-10-27 14:21 +0000
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-27 23:16 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-27 14:52 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-28 04:54 +0200
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-27 20:13 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-30 06:55 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-30 05:12 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-16 07:26 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 23:07 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-16 03:44 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 07:09 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-16 11:58 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 14:36 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-16 18:57 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 19:23 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-11-16 19:26 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-16 20:09 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 20:25 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 20:10 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-17 04:43 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-17 06:21 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-17 06:57 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-17 07:03 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-17 07:45 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-16 20:26 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-17 08:45 -0600
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-17 12:28 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-17 14:52 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-18 09:29 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:01 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:40 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-19 09:47 -0600
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-19 07:52 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-20 06:36 +0100
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 17:38 -0800
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-30 06:30 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-27 17:22 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-27 18:50 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-27 19:04 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 19:39 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-27 20:04 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-27 20:19 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-27 20:07 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-27 21:14 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 01:38 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 07:45 -0700
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Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 08:03 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 08:12 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 08:19 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 08:27 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 08:34 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 08:44 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 08:48 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 08:56 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 09:11 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 09:19 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 09:43 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 10:18 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 11:27 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 11:44 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 11:56 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 12:38 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 15:31 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 16:03 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 17:25 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 15:39 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 17:36 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 19:56 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 21:18 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 23:10 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-29 06:14 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 23:22 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong nero <oldogf@yahoo.it> - 2016-10-29 00:57 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-29 06:17 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 02:55 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 04:18 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 06:42 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-29 07:14 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 10:40 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 10:48 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 11:03 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 08:54 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 11:30 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-28 01:24 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 01:41 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-28 02:24 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 03:55 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-28 11:23 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 11:33 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 15:20 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 15:27 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 15:46 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 17:27 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 20:08 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 21:13 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 23:04 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-29 06:13 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 01:28 -0700
Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-28 05:06 -0700
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Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 06:43 -0700
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-31 08:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nv7hbn$1f5i$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #397248 |
On 10/31/2016 12:28 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am 27.10.2016 16:55, schrieb Odd Bodkin: > >>> The aether transmits light and generates gravity and inertia >>> throughout the >>> universe. >> >> This is YOUR opinion. Scientists hold a different position. Spacetime is >> completely up to the task of transmitting light and gravity. Inertia >> doesn't get transmitted -- it isn't even a well defined term in physics. >> >>> Without the aether (spacetime is a bad name) the universe would not be >>> possible. >> >> Again, this is YOUR opinion. >> >> >> > 'Spacetime' is just a word and 'ether' is another. Agreed, and this is why physicists are pretty clear about laying out distinct meanings for them. > > Unless it is made clear, what a phrase should stand for, you can use a > placeholder phrase as well (-> 'mumble'). But it is clear. Read books. > > Actually I used the word 'spacetime' is this way and leave out the > question, what that 'really' is. Instead I say, this should be the > spacetime of GR. > > In reality this could be actually 'nothing'. Nothing can actually split > apart and build something (like: 0 = 1 + (-1) ). > > So the universe could pop out of nowhere and suddenly something exist > and this is what we call 'world'. > > And possibly our negative counterparts exists somewhere (where we do not > want to go). > > > TH > > > https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6 -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-10-31 16:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ac533007-31a0-4940-81a6-7792bd3bbcbd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #397267 |
On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 9:35:54 PM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 10/31/2016 12:28 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > > 'Spacetime' is just a word and 'ether' is another. > > Agreed, and this is why physicists are pretty clear about laying out > distinct meanings for them. > As distinctive as to say 'real' doesn't mean 'real'.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-07 15:19 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nvqr4j$1rdk$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #397340 |
On 10/31/2016 6:43 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 9:35:54 PM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 10/31/2016 12:28 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>> 'Spacetime' is just a word and 'ether' is another. >> >> Agreed, and this is why physicists are pretty clear about laying out >> distinct meanings for them. >> > As distinctive as to say 'real' doesn't mean 'real'. > Have to know the lingo as physicists use it, Peter. Sorry. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nut4gb$1n6u$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #396694 |
On 10/24/2016 6:29 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 9:36:39 PM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 1:35 AM, Peter Riedt wrote: >>> Einstein confirmed that the aether cannot be denied; it exists. Was he wrong? >> >> Again here, Peter, it's unwise to take Einstein's sentence out of >> context. What he stated at the time was that he felt that some kind of >> ether was needed conceptually, but that whatever that is, it bears no >> resemblance whatsover to the luminiferous ether that had been supposed >> up until that point. So he was pretty clear in stating that the >> luminiferous ether that had been supposed by his predecessors did NOT >> exist. >> >> The ether that remained for Einstein is what is now called spacetime. >> > Einstein did not call the aether spacetime; he called the aether aether. That's true in the one article you're thinking of. Elsewhere he said differently. Moreover, Einstein is not the sole source of what relativity says. > Michelson also did in 1887 again accept the aether when he suggested > different experiments to identify it. 1887 was 129 years ago. How old are you? By the time you were BORN, things had changed. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2016-10-24 23:13 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <e76c7sF6nu1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #396596 |
On 24/10/2016 4:12 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 11:24:51 AM UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote: >> >> Getting into arguments about the meaning of words is a completely >> pointless and time-wasting exercise. Pretending that a word has >> one meaning when it actually has many, and using that in an >> argument, is intellectually dishonest. >> >> Sylvia. > > I agree. The real issue for me is the confusion about the aether. In > 1881 Michelson said there is no aether. In 1887 he suggested > different experiments that could detect the aether. Ever since, > science has been ambivalent about this elusive substance. > For a long time now, mainstream science has had a consensus that the aether has no role to play. It's only die-hards like you who continue to try to argue that it exists. Sylvia.
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| From | Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-10-24 16:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6c664c7b-2937-4ada-bdf4-a1f6ab5bfdb5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #396619 |
On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 8:13:50 PM UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 24/10/2016 4:12 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > > On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 11:24:51 AM UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote: > >> > >> Getting into arguments about the meaning of words is a completely > >> pointless and time-wasting exercise. Pretending that a word has > >> one meaning when it actually has many, and using that in an > >> argument, is intellectually dishonest. > >> > >> Sylvia. > > > > I agree. The real issue for me is the confusion about the aether. In > > 1881 Michelson said there is no aether. In 1887 he suggested > > different experiments that could detect the aether. Ever since, > > science has been ambivalent about this elusive substance. > > > > For a long time now, mainstream science has had a consensus that the > aether has no role to play. It's only die-hards like you who continue to > try to argue that it exists. > > Sylvia. Please read Paul's reply further down. He is another die hard who believes in the aether. Einstein and Michelson did so too.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-24 08:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nul28j$757$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #396596 |
On 10/24/2016 12:12 AM, Peter Riedt wrote: > I agree. The real issue for me is the confusion about the aether. In 1881 Michelson > said there is no aether. In 1887 he suggested different experiments that could detect > the aether. Ever since, science has been ambivalent about this elusive substance. I think you will find that the ambivalence has been resolved in the 129 years since 1887. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-10-24 16:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <923ab44e-8b79-46a9-9900-b7c2d4e3c619@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #396629 |
On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 9:27:50 PM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 10/24/2016 12:12 AM, Peter Riedt wrote: > > I agree. The real issue for me is the confusion about the aether. In 1881 Michelson > > said there is no aether. In 1887 he suggested different experiments that could detect > > the aether. Ever since, science has been ambivalent about this elusive substance. > > I think you will find that the ambivalence has been resolved in the 129 > years since 1887. > > > -- > Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables On the contrary, the ambivalence has been reinforced.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nut4gm$1n6u$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #396696 |
On 10/24/2016 6:30 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 9:27:50 PM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 12:12 AM, Peter Riedt wrote: >>> I agree. The real issue for me is the confusion about the aether. In 1881 Michelson >>> said there is no aether. In 1887 he suggested different experiments that could detect >>> the aether. Ever since, science has been ambivalent about this elusive substance. >> >> I think you will find that the ambivalence has been resolved in the 129 >> years since 1887. >> >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > On the contrary, the ambivalence has been reinforced. > I disagree. This is based on READING recent books, which I gather you have not done. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-11-01 05:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <e7qin0Fu1kiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #396928 |
Am 27.10.2016 16:55, schrieb Odd Bodkin: >>>> I agree. The real issue for me is the confusion about the aether. In >>>> 1881 Michelson >>>> said there is no aether. In 1887 he suggested different experiments >>>> that could detect >>>> the aether. Ever since, science has been ambivalent about this >>>> elusive substance. >>> >>> I think you will find that the ambivalence has been resolved in the 129 >>> years since 1887. >>> >> >> On the contrary, the ambivalence has been reinforced. >> > > I disagree. This is based on READING recent books, which I gather you > have not done. > Truth in science is a difficult subject. Most certainly you will find 'truth' in nature and not in books. What is written in books represent ideas, that someone else had, who wrote that book. To read such ideas could eventually help, but it is not guaranteed, that former ideas are better than newer - or especially the own. If you want to create something new, you cannot use former ideas, written in books. Instead you need to make up your own mind and try to find some new look at old problems. In a way I think, that lack of knowledge would eventually help creativity. The downside would be, that almost all such 'creative ideas' are plain wrong, but not because the lack of knowledge, but because they would violate known features of nature. So some knowledge is required, but not to much, since this would hinder creativity. TH
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| From | Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-10-31 22:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d36a4a8a-8c93-409c-afa3-e3c33486604d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #397369 |
On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 12:07:00 PM UTC+8, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am 27.10.2016 16:55, schrieb Odd Bodkin: > > >>>> I agree. The real issue for me is the confusion about the aether. In > >>>> 1881 Michelson > >>>> said there is no aether. In 1887 he suggested different experiments > >>>> that could detect > >>>> the aether. Ever since, science has been ambivalent about this > >>>> elusive substance. > >>> > >>> I think you will find that the ambivalence has been resolved in the 129 > >>> years since 1887. > >>> > > >> > >> On the contrary, the ambivalence has been reinforced. > >> > > > > I disagree. This is based on READING recent books, which I gather you > > have not done. > > > > > Truth in science is a difficult subject. Most certainly you will find > 'truth' in nature and not in books. > > What is written in books represent ideas, that someone else had, who > wrote that book. > > To read such ideas could eventually help, but it is not guaranteed, that > former ideas are better than newer - or especially the own. > > If you want to create something new, you cannot use former ideas, > written in books. Instead you need to make up your own mind and try to > find some new look at old problems. > > In a way I think, that lack of knowledge would eventually help creativity. > > The downside would be, that almost all such 'creative ideas' are plain > wrong, but not because the lack of knowledge, but because they would > violate known features of nature. > > So some knowledge is required, but not to much, since this would hinder > creativity. > > > > TH Thomas, you are spot on. If we relied on established thinking we would be still living in caves.
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| From | "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-01 11:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <06a09f9e-8a22-4c45-9266-57f55489a04a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #397370 |
On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 10:53:13 PM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote: > Thomas, you are spot on. If we relied on established thinking we would be still living in caves. Stop flattering yourself, imbeciles like you do not advance the civilization.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-11-01 23:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <e7siigFehfrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #397415 |
Am 01.11.2016 19:36, schrieb Dono,: >> Thomas, you are spot on. If we relied on established thinking we would be still living in caves. > > Stop flattering yourself, imbeciles like you do not advance the civilization. > 'Advance the civilization' is something a single person could do by inventing something. E.g. a new way of braking bread could help to achieve better solutions and that would in fact advance civilization. Most achievements would generate only very little progress. But things add up and many small contributions would also generate significant progress. Inventions are by definition new, hence cannot be based on previous ideas. In fact something new does somehow require to break earlier believes. So, strict traditionalism would hinder any advance of civilization. TH
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| From | Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-11-01 16:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <94e1d8ff-6eb4-45c3-beb8-bb94df032bd8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #397415 |
On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:36:41 AM UTC+8, Dono, wrote: > On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 10:53:13 PM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote: > > Thomas, you are spot on. If we relied on established thinking we would be still living in caves. > > Stop flattering yourself, imbeciles like you do not advance the civilization. You are still living in the trees.
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| From | "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-01 17:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e3e7ab32-1701-480a-bffe-0f8720518dff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #397437 |
On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 4:43:23 PM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote: > On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:36:41 AM UTC+8, Dono, wrote: > > On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 10:53:13 PM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote: > > > Thomas, you are spot on. If we relied on established thinking we would be still living in caves. > > > > Stop flattering yourself, imbeciles like you do not advance the civilization. > > You are still living in the trees. ...says the resident crackpot.
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| From | Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-11-01 20:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9ddab9bc-7d5f-4e55-ae28-3d8d7c460d6d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #397440 |
On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 8:03:23 AM UTC+8, Dono, wrote: > On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 4:43:23 PM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:36:41 AM UTC+8, Dono, wrote: > > > On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 10:53:13 PM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote: > > > > Thomas, you are spot on. If we relied on established thinking we would be still living in caves. > > > > > > Stop flattering yourself, imbeciles like you do not advance the civilization. > > > > You are still living in the trees. > > ...says the resident crackpot. Dono swings in the trees, Bod lives in a cave, AE lives in the spacetime fantasy land but the RC enjoys the real world.
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| From | "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-01 20:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9da8a540-da5c-4e9f-b50a-7c45c4822bbb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #397448 |
On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 8:25:23 PM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote: > snip imbecilities< You were born an imbecile, your only consolation is that you will die one.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-07 15:21 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nvqr8r$1rdk$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #397369 |
On 10/31/2016 11:06 PM, Thomas Heger wrote: > > Truth in science is a difficult subject. Most certainly you will find > 'truth' in nature and not in books. > > What is written in books represent ideas, that someone else had, who > wrote that book. > > To read such ideas could eventually help, but it is not guaranteed, that > former ideas are better than newer - or especially the own. > > If you want to create something new, you cannot use former ideas, > written in books. Instead you need to make up your own mind and try to > find some new look at old problems. > > In a way I think, that lack of knowledge would eventually help creativity. > > The downside would be, that almost all such 'creative ideas' are plain > wrong, but not because the lack of knowledge, but because they would > violate known features of nature. > > So some knowledge is required, but not to much, since this would hinder > creativity. > > > > TH You're a little off base to think that books only contain ideas. That would be philosophy. What is recorded in physics books are a combination of ideas, quantitative predictions from the ideas, and comparison of those ideas with data. It is those last two things that define science, because it is nature that resolves which ideas are good and which are bad, through experiment. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-24 08:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nul22t$757$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #396584 |
On 10/23/2016 10:00 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > Yes, the usual defence of SR is that the term 'real' is not what it means in English. > In English it means 'real/true/existing/present' Peter, you should know better. In the English dictionary are listed several definitions of words, and which one is appropriate depends on context. If you use the inappropriate definition for a given context, then this is your own mistake. > and their opposites are > 'not real/untrue/non existing/non present'. The former do not apply to LC but the latter do. > > Einstein did not give a logically conclusive reply, he said LC does and doesn't exist. No, Peter, what he said is that it depends on what you mean by "real". And here he explained what HE means by real, and you insist on taking a different definition. > His reply is only accepted on the basis that a genius cannot be doubted. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-10-24 16:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <42aa95db-af65-4b64-a34d-f3b4f3b3161e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #396628 |
On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 9:24:49 PM UTC+8, Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 10/23/2016 10:00 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > > Yes, the usual defence of SR is that the term 'real' is not what it means in English. > > In English it means 'real/true/existing/present' > > Peter, you should know better. In the English dictionary are listed > several definitions of words, and which one is appropriate depends on > context. If you use the inappropriate definition for a given context, > then this is your own mistake. > > > and their opposites are > > 'not real/untrue/non existing/non present'. The former do not apply to LC but the latter do. > > > > Einstein did not give a logically conclusive reply, he said LC does and doesn't exist. > > No, Peter, what he said is that it depends on what you mean by "real". > And here he explained what HE means by real, and you insist on taking a > different definition. > > > His reply is only accepted on the basis that a genius cannot be doubted. > > > -- > Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables Please tell me your version how MMX, the experiment in the lab, is affected by LC.
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