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Michelson got his mirrors wrong

Started byPeter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk>
First post2016-10-22 16:31 -0700
Last post2016-11-18 10:12 -0800
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  Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 16:31 -0700
    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-23 04:47 +0200
      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-22 20:17 -0700
      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 22:16 -0700
      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 08:46 +0200
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-23 21:10 +0200
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 21:59 +0200
            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-24 06:34 +0200
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 07:59 +0200
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-24 22:55 +0200
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 08:23 +0200
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 08:51 +0200
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-25 08:54 +0200
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 09:39 +0200
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 09:50 +0200
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-26 07:56 +0200
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 19:41 +0100
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-31 05:54 +0100
                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 07:03 +0100
                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 07:53 +0100
                                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 11:04 +0100
                                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 04:47 +0100
                                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 07:35 +0100
                                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 07:58 +0100
                                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 08:13 +0100
                                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 18:55 +0100
                                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 19:59 +0100
                                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-09 08:42 +0100
                                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-12 19:37 -0800
                                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-12 19:46 -0800
                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-31 22:08 +0100
                                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 22:49 +0100
                                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 22:57 +0100
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-10-25 05:05 -0700
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 16:42 -0700
            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 01:40 +0100
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong brightontoyandmodelmuseum@gmail.com - 2016-11-07 13:26 -0800
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-07 13:33 -0800
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 15:59 -0800
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-08 06:42 -0800
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 04:17 -0800
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 22:35 +0100
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-07 13:39 -0800
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 17:06 -0800
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 08:19 +0100
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 19:23 -0800
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-07 16:40 -0800
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 22:03 -0800
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 22:08 -0800
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 04:51 -0800
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 05:26 -0800
            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 04:33 +0100
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 07:23 +0100
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 19:11 +0100
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 20:03 +0100
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Nick <nick@nick.nick> - 2016-11-02 15:14 +0000
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-02 22:05 +0100
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-03 08:38 +0100
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-04 04:40 +0100
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 10:27 +0100
                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-04 18:09 +0100
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-11-08 10:54 -0800
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Marion Vanriper <Marion@Vanriper.info> - 2016-11-26 10:58 +0000
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 21:51 +0100
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 21:53 +0100
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-11-01 12:14 -0700
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-14 06:42 +0100
    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-22 20:16 -0700
    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 21:03 -0700
      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 22:14 -0700
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 03:18 -0700
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-10-23 12:33 +0200
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-23 16:00 +0200
            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 07:18 -0700
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 07:58 -0700
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-23 21:54 +0200
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-10-23 13:46 -0700
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 15:10 -0700
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 15:16 -0700
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-10-23 16:08 -0700
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 18:13 -0700
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 20:37 -0700
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-24 14:45 +0200
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 06:55 -0700
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:43 -0700
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 19:34 -0700
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-10-25 14:31 +0200
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 06:49 -0700
                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-25 07:58 -0700
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 17:00 -0700
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 17:07 -0700
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 20:21 -0700
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 00:03 -0700
      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-22 23:48 -0700
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:04 -0500
      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 06:21 -0700
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 06:37 -0700
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:07 -0700
            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:24 -0700
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:35 -0700
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:42 -0700
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:43 -0700
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-28 08:10 -0700
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-29 09:32 +0200
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-29 09:33 +0200
            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 07:47 -0700
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 07:55 -0700
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 11:14 -0700
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 13:14 -0700
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-29 13:17 -0700
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-03 06:54 +0100
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-03 21:01 -0700
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-04 18:23 +0100
    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 10:31 +0200
      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 01:52 -0700
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-23 02:08 -0700
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-23 11:24 +0200
    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-10-23 11:59 +0200
      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 16:48 -0700
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-23 18:38 -0700
    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong alsor@interia.pl - 2016-10-23 11:00 -0700
    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-24 11:42 +1100
      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 18:06 -0700
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-23 18:38 -0700
        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-24 12:46 +1100
          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 20:00 -0700
            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-24 14:24 +1100
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 22:12 -0700
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-10-23 22:34 -0700
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:02 +0200
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 23:35 -0700
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:42 +0200
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-23 23:48 -0700
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:53 +0200
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 00:08 -0700
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 11:08 +0200
                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 03:17 -0700
                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 13:09 +0200
                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-24 04:13 -0700
                                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:52 -0700
                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 04:55 -0700
                                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:48 -0700
                                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 19:41 -0700
                                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 22:04 -0700
                                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 23:37 -0700
                                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 23:45 -0700
                                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 23:47 -0700
                                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 04:50 -0700
                                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500
                                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-27 17:16 -0700
                                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 09:54 -0500
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:39 -0500
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:38 -0500
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:36 -0500
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:29 -0700
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 08:25 +0200
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 23:41 -0700
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 08:57 +0200
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500
                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-31 06:28 +0100
                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 08:35 -0500
                                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 16:43 -0700
                                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 15:19 -0600
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-24 23:13 +1100
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:46 -0700
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:27 -0500
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:30 -0700
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 09:55 -0500
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 05:06 +0100
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-31 22:53 -0700
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-01 11:36 -0700
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-01 23:16 +0100
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-01 16:43 -0700
                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-01 17:03 -0700
                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-01 20:25 -0700
                                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-01 20:30 -0700
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 15:21 -0600
            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 08:24 -0500
              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-10-24 16:33 -0700
                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-27 08:28 +0200
                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-27 05:50 -0700
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Walter Bautista <wabau@outlookbay.org> - 2016-10-27 14:21 +0000
                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-27 23:16 +0200
                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-27 14:52 -0700
                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-28 04:54 +0200
                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-27 20:13 -0700
                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-30 06:55 +0100
                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-30 05:12 -0700
                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-16 07:26 +0100
                                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 23:07 -0800
                                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-16 03:44 -0800
                                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 07:09 -0800
                                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-16 11:58 -0800
                                        Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 14:36 -0800
                                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-16 18:57 -0800
                                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 19:23 -0800
                                          Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-11-16 19:26 -0800
                                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-16 20:09 -0800
                                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 20:25 -0800
                                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-16 20:10 -0800
                                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-17 04:43 -0800
                                                Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-17 06:21 -0800
                                                  Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-17 06:57 -0800
                                                    Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-11-17 07:03 -0800
                                                      Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-17 07:45 -0800
                                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-16 20:26 -0800
                                            Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-17 08:45 -0600
                                              Re: Michelson got his mirrors wrong "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-17 12:28 -0800
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#397018

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-10-28 07:42 -0700
Message-ID<6b879c75-6fb6-4847-8cb8-56ddcf92dc5c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397016
((360 / 4) - (180 / pi)) / 32.7705 = 0.99797746408

Steradian = 32.7705*2

360/11 = 32.72727272

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steradian

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#397019

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-10-28 07:43 -0700
Message-ID<9a3a91b3-8082-498b-b071-810e151df8ba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397016
Steradian = http://i61.tinypic.com/2hd0cug.jpg

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#397030

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-10-28 08:10 -0700
Message-ID<380a6ea4-3582-4e52-b9a5-8007a5358d0d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397016
1 / ((((1 / 0.995) - 1) - 0.005)^0.5) = 199.499373433


1 / (((1 / 0.995) - 1) - 0.005) = 39800.0000001

(1 / ((2 / ((((1 / 0.995) - 1) - 0.005)^0.5))^2)) / tau = 9.99716979e-7
1e+6 / ((2 / ((((1 / 0.995) - 1) - 0.005)^0.5))^2) = 6.28140703515

(1e+6 / ((2 / ((((1 / 0.995) - 1) - 0.005)^0.5))^2)) / tau = 0.99971697921

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#397107

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-10-29 09:32 +0200
Message-ID<e7j1khF630dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#397009
Am 28.10.2016 15:21, schrieb David (Time Lord) Fuller:

> If 'length of a material object' is defined in a certain way, than the
> term 'length' means just that, what the definition says.
>
> So we have two distinct realms, which have different attributes, which
> must not be confused:
>
> - material objects
> - space (vacuum)
>
> 1/(material objects) = spacetime

something/x = something ^-1

Now look at this formula for rotations with quaternions:

q' = p * q * p^-1


This does not look that impressive.

But you could see a certain symmetry in it, where you have p multiplied 
from the left and p^-1 from the right. (the sign '*' is a certain type 
of non-commutative multiplication for quaternions. )

so think about 'left' is the inverse to the 'right'.


Now think about spacetime as quaternion field, where the elements are 
interconnected like quaternions are multiplied. This could be visualized 
as kind of rotation.

This would generate certain timelike stable patterns and those are, what 
we call matter.

The inverse to timelike is called spacelike. That could be understood as 
the axis of time multiplied with the imaginary unit i. (actually i, j and k)

The interesting aspect is, that the equation could be rotated and the 
axis of time could point in any direction.

This would cause a very unexpected effect, since material objects would 
disappear, while other objects pop out of nowhere, together with a 
different universe.



Since I'm more a 'visual artist' and you think more in terms like 
equations, we should try to cooperate.

My 'book' is this thing:


https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6

Eventually you can make some use of it and provide a few interesting 
equations.


TH


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#397108

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-10-29 09:33 +0200
Message-ID<e7j1moF630dU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#397107
Am 29.10.2016 09:32, schrieb Thomas Heger:
> something/x = something ^-1

ooops...

something/x = something * x^-1

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#397137

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-10-29 07:47 -0700
Message-ID<107d9d19-9a95-4d86-97f6-a6288682557c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397108
Thomas Heger wrote:


ooops... 

something/x = something * x^-1 

Yep. Quite a few Isometries. 
Think the should start with these two. 
((4pi/1e-7)/376.73) = 8.8542026e-12/(1/376.73)
http://i68.tinypic.com/2qjkqxv.jpg

TD = LC
http://i61.tinypic.com/2hd0cug.jpg

Time = Mass = Gravitational Curvature
R = (2GM)*(1/c^2) = ( 1/(2G ) = c^2) = (G is RE-ABSORBING ENERGY)

I think they have  Gravitational Potential Energy wrong because upon Escspe potential Energy would be ZERO because the escaping object will inevitably fall into another objects gravity well. 

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#397138

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-10-29 07:55 -0700
Message-ID<b14305fb-bd24-4e8e-9705-02ce9e0a7d38@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397137

I think they have  Gravitational Potential Energy wrong because upon Escspe potential Energy would be ZERO because the escaping object will inevitably fall into another objects gravity well. 

With the Hubble constant at some point expanding faster than both c & 1/G, potential Energy at Apogee would Still be ZERO. 

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#397149

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-10-29 11:14 -0700
Message-ID<3d4398f5-3b5b-4b6b-b86f-1b642fc09fdf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397138
The spacetime of our universe really looks like an isotropic homogeneous gravity field With a (Time Dilation * Length Contraction) around 1/2 of the proton/electron ratio. 
This would line up nicely with the decay time of an inbound neutron of around 900 seconds 

And the Higgs particle at about (proton mass)/alpha

Bunch of women bickering over the age of the twins or ticking of clocks @ c

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#397159

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-10-29 13:14 -0700
Message-ID<c131ac8a-16cb-4898-9969-37616c70f537@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397149
The spacetime of our universe really looks like an isotropic homogeneous gravity field With a (Time Dilation * Length Contraction) around 1/2 of the proton/electron ratio. 
This would line up nicely with the decay time of an unbound neutron of around 900 seconds

(4pi)*(4pi-1/pi)*(4pi-2/pi)/2 = 918.075
http://i57.tinypic.com/294ksba.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/2qjkqxv.jpg


And the Higgs particle at about (proton mass)/alpha 

Bunch of school girls bickering over the age of the twins or ticking of clocks @ c 

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#397160

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-10-29 13:17 -0700
Message-ID<2d46c708-dc1d-4097-9cd0-af1c66502802@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397159
(Tau)*(4pi-1/pi)*(4pi-2/pi) = 918.075 seconds

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#397568

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-11-03 06:54 +0100
Message-ID<e801pfF925cU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#397137
Am 29.10.2016 16:47, schrieb David (Time Lord) Fuller:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>
> ooops...
>
> something/x = something * x^-1
>
> Yep. Quite a few Isometries.
> Think the should start with these two.
> ((4pi/1e-7)/376.73) = 8.8542026e-12/(1/376.73)
> http://i68.tinypic.com/2qjkqxv.jpg


Yes, I like this one.

> TD = LC
> http://i61.tinypic.com/2hd0cug.jpg
>
> Time = Mass = Gravitational Curvature
> R = (2GM)*(1/c^2) = ( 1/(2G ) = c^2) = (G is RE-ABSORBING ENERGY)
>
> I think they have  Gravitational Potential Energy wrong because upon Escspe potential Energy would be ZERO because the escaping object will inevitably fall into another objects gravity well.

This could be the reason for atoms and their interactions.

I had the idea, that atoms could be 'timelike stable patterns'.

This could be understood as: wave being trapped in itself.

This is something like a 'rotation wave', which spins in and out.

Since there exist a certain symmetry, the axis of time could turn into 
different directions, where what is an atom in one FoR is not an atom in 
another, but radiation.

If the axis of time is turned back, this radiation is an atom again.

The idea is not based on particles, but 'particle' denotes certain 
patterns (like 'edge', 'outer rim' or 'centre').

This gives a certain model, that I call 'structured spacetime':

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6


TH

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#397656

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-11-03 21:01 -0700
Message-ID<58fb1981-c569-4ce6-ad03-08ce7a79685c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#397568
On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 12:54:57 AM UTC-5, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 29.10.2016 16:47, schrieb David (Time Lord) Fuller:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> >
> > ooops...
> >
> > something/x = something * x^-1
> >
> > Yep. Quite a few Isometries.
> > Think the should start with these two.
> > ((4pi/1e-7)/376.73) = 8.8542026e-12/(1/376.73)
> > http://i68.tinypic.com/2qjkqxv.jpg
> 
> 
> Yes, I like this one.
> 
> > TD = LC
> > http://i61.tinypic.com/2hd0cug.jpg
> >
> > Time = Mass = Gravitational Curvature
> > R = (2GM)*(1/c^2) = ( 1/(2G ) = c^2) = (G is RE-ABSORBING ENERGY)
> >
> > I think they have  Gravitational Potential Energy wrong because upon Escspe potential Energy would be ZERO because the escaping object will inevitably fall into another objects gravity well.
> 
> This could be the reason for atoms and their interactions.
> 
> I had the idea, that atoms could be 'timelike stable patterns'.
> 
> This could be understood as: wave being trapped in itself.
> 
> This is something like a 'rotation wave', which spins in and out.
> 
> Since there exist a certain symmetry, the axis of time could turn into 
> different directions, where what is an atom in one FoR is not an atom in 
> another, but radiation.
> 
> If the axis of time is turned back, this radiation is an atom again.
> 
> The idea is not based on particles, but 'particle' denotes certain 
> patterns (like 'edge', 'outer rim' or 'centre').

Yes, Many times there seems to be a Transition Barrier between a Polyhedral Structure & a "Curve or PI" .... the same as where the curvature of gravity exceeds the speed of light at an event horizon

> 
> This gives a certain model, that I call 'structured spacetime':
> 
> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6
> 
> 
> TH

I like your Book, It is Very Logical And Accurate and easily followed.
I think we both like to mentally "Spin Geometry" inside our Heads & Prefer to visualize Geometric structure rather than Formulas.

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#397709

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-11-04 18:23 +0100
Message-ID<e83ug6F774eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#397656
Am 04.11.2016 05:01, schrieb David (Time Lord) Fuller:

>>
>> Yes, I like this one.
>>
>>> TD = LC
>>> http://i61.tinypic.com/2hd0cug.jpg
>>>
>>> Time = Mass = Gravitational Curvature
>>> R = (2GM)*(1/c^2) = ( 1/(2G ) = c^2) = (G is RE-ABSORBING ENERGY)
>>>
>>> I think they have  Gravitational Potential Energy wrong because upon Escspe potential Energy would be ZERO because the escaping object will inevitably fall into another objects gravity well.
>>
>> This could be the reason for atoms and their interactions.
>>
>> I had the idea, that atoms could be 'timelike stable patterns'.
>>
>> This could be understood as: wave being trapped in itself.
>>
>> This is something like a 'rotation wave', which spins in and out.
>>
>> Since there exist a certain symmetry, the axis of time could turn into
>> different directions, where what is an atom in one FoR is not an atom in
>> another, but radiation.
>>
>> If the axis of time is turned back, this radiation is an atom again.
>>
>> The idea is not based on particles, but 'particle' denotes certain
>> patterns (like 'edge', 'outer rim' or 'centre').
>
> Yes, Many times there seems to be a Transition Barrier between a Polyhedral Structure&  a "Curve or PI" .... the same as where the curvature of gravity exceeds the speed of light at an event horizon
>
>>
>> This gives a certain model, that I call 'structured spacetime':
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6
>>
>>
>> TH
>
> I like your Book, It is Very Logical And Accurate and easily followed.

Thank you very much.

Actually I had not that many friendly replies about my text.


> I think we both like to mentally "Spin Geometry" inside our Heads&  Prefer to visualize Geometric structure rather than Formulas.

>
In a way this is true.

I'm more or less a 'visual artist' and therefore I'm able to draw nice 
diagrams. These drawings are an important part and carry most of the 
content of my 'book'.

To create appropriate mathematical descriptions was not yet possible.

But after all I think the book is quite good and was worth the effort, 
(but is not finished).


TH

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#396504

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-23 10:31 +0200
Message-ID<nuhsfp$8eu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#396486
Dne 23/10/2016 v 01:31 Peter Riedt napsal(a):

> [...]
>
> However, every mirror, not only the mirrors of his interferometer
> apparatus, partakes in the two motions of the earth; rotation
> and orbit around the sun. The laws of reflection have been established
> under these circumstances and are the same for every mirror on
> earth and regardless of their alignment with East, West, North
> and South and every compass point in between.

It is general principle in science that errors
that can be neglected can be considered as non-existing.

>  [...]
>
> No difference of the arms existed to detect the aether and no
> contraction existed or was necessary to explain the null result.

The aether theory supposed anisotropy of light speed.
So the experiment was not primarily about the arm lengths,
but about light travel time in particular arms.

BTW, the Special relativity was not based on MMX.
Einstein derived the LT by independent way.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#396505

FromPeter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-10-23 01:52 -0700
Message-ID<5cbc5144-f219-43d5-8a9c-72154d591caf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#396504
On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 4:31:12 PM UTC+8, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 23/10/2016 v 01:31 Peter Riedt napsal(a):
> 
> > [...]
> >
> > However, every mirror, not only the mirrors of his interferometer
> > apparatus, partakes in the two motions of the earth; rotation
> > and orbit around the sun. The laws of reflection have been established
> > under these circumstances and are the same for every mirror on
> > earth and regardless of their alignment with East, West, North
> > and South and every compass point in between.
> 
> It is general principle in science that errors
> that can be neglected can be considered as non-existing.
> 
Yes, but Michelson's error was fundamental. He ignored the laws of reflection.

> >
> > No difference of the arms existed to detect the aether and no
> > contraction existed or was necessary to explain the null result.
> 
> The aether theory supposed anisotropy of light speed.
> So the experiment was not primarily about the arm lengths,
> but about light travel time in particular arms.
> 
Yes, my term 'no difference of the arms' was to be read 'no difference in the light paths'. The arms were 11m each but the light paths were wrongly assumed to be unequal because Michelson used in his logic an incorrect angle of reflection of the mirror at the end of the perpendicular arm. 

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#396506

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2016-10-23 02:08 -0700
Message-ID<9badbaee-1ab9-4ada-b6b4-efc96116cf4e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#396505
On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 1:52:34 AM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote:
>

> Yes, but Michelson's error was fundamental. He ignored the laws of reflection.
> 
No, he didn't , utter imbecile. 

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#396508

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-23 11:24 +0200
Message-ID<nuhvkj$i2k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#396505
Dne 23/10/2016 v 10:52 Peter Riedt napsal(a):
> On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 4:31:12 PM UTC+8, Poutnik wrote:

>>
>> It is general principle in science that errors
>> that can be neglected can be considered as non-existing.
>>
> Yes, but Michelson's error was fundamental. He ignored the laws of reflection.

I do not think so.
I am not sure you have verified your interpretation.
> 
>>>
>>> No difference of the arms existed to detect the aether and no
>>> contraction existed or was necessary to explain the null result.
>>
>> The aether theory supposed anisotropy of light speed.
>> So the experiment was not primarily about the arm lengths,
>> but about light travel time in particular arms.
>>
> Yes, my term 'no difference of the arms' was to be read 'no difference in the light paths'. The arms were 11m each but the light paths were wrongly assumed to be unequal because Michelson used in his logic an incorrect angle of reflection of the mirror at the end of the perpendicular arm. 
> 
The experiment outcome does not depends on logic.
Additionally, the many equivalent experiment were done over the time.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#396510

FromDirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not>
Date2016-10-23 11:59 +0200
Message-ID<nui1n5$1op7$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#396486
Op 23-okt-2016 om 01:31 schreef Peter Riedt:
> Michelson got his mirrors wrong

You're not the first to discover that:
   http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AndroMMX.html

Dirk Vdm

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#396571

FromPeter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2016-10-23 16:48 -0700
Message-ID<85dca38c-c9f2-4845-a051-d71b88cde28c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#396510
On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 6:00:11 PM UTC+8, Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> Op 23-okt-2016 om 01:31 schreef Peter Riedt:
> > Michelson got his mirrors wrong
> 
> You're not the first to discover that:
>    http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AndroMMX.html
> 
> Dirk Vdm

The post by Androcles, who past away and is still remembered by me as a thoughtful contributor to this newsgroup, is in line with many others which asks questions about MMX as it should be done because MMX is interpreted inconsistent   with the truth.

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#396580

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2016-10-23 18:38 -0700
Message-ID<6e06d146-0e38-4d57-aa56-20471a188626@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#396571
On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Peter Riedt wrote:
> On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 6:00:11 PM UTC+8, Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> > Op 23-okt-2016 om 01:31 schreef Peter Riedt:
> > > Michelson got his mirrors wrong
> > 
> > You're not the first to discover that:
> >    http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AndroMMX.html
> > 
> > Dirk Vdm
> 
> The post by Androcles, who past away and is still remembered by me as a thoughtful contributor to this newsgroup, is in line with many others which asks questions about MMX as it should be done because MMX is interpreted inconsistent   with the truth.

A despicable crank. Like you. 

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