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Atheism is Witchcraft

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
Last post2016-09-14 03:58 -0400
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  Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Normal Human <NH@....> - 2016-09-12 08:01 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 15:24 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-11 16:28 -0600
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 07:31 +0200
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-12 12:57 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 05:59 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 08:57 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:04 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-12 14:26 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 19:18 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 12:37 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 22:43 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:14 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-12 22:18 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 06:45 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 23:56 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 08:16 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:07 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 22:00 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:53 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 20:15 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 01:34 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:23 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-15 11:29 -0600
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 20:44 +0200
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-16 06:34 +1000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 20:02 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 19:05 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 10:25 +1000
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 22:11 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:25 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 06:20 +0200
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 22:57 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:16 +0200
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:01 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-17 11:54 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 09:55 +1000
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 04:26 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 16:15 +0200
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 11:29 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 09:59 +1000
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:25 +0200
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 20:56 -0600
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:48 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 16:11 +1000
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:28 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 11:37 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:11 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 12:12 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 03:57 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 19:14 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 10:37 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 09:28 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-22 00:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 03:50 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 18:17 +1000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 02:19 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 02:35 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 10:13 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 12:37 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-23 14:59 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 10:35 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 05:55 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 05:13 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 19:20 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 17:16 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 06:44 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-25 22:40 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-26 17:56 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 23:09 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-27 19:02 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 20:23 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 10:18 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-28 03:34 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 11:41 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-28 20:34 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-28 04:48 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-28 18:10 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-29 10:07 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-29 08:04 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 06:43 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-27 19:06 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-27 05:08 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-27 20:28 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-28 01:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 23:55 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-28 15:04 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:06 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-29 00:03 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 00:38 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 00:37 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-29 15:48 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 23:59 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 11:50 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-27 22:30 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-28 14:58 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:07 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:02 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-27 10:07 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 16:08 +1000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:53 +0200
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:36 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 17:27 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:33 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-20 09:40 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 03:58 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 12:05 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 04:10 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 20:31 +0000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 23:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 00:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 11:51 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:14 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 23:38 +0200
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:31 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-21 11:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 04:16 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 21:42 +0200
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 16:22 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 10:11 +1000
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-22 08:34 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-21 23:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 17:37 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-22 22:23 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 12:38 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 06:20 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 02:28 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-22 22:11 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-22 22:25 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 04:36 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 16:18 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 02:38 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 18:20 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 09:30 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 18:17 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-23 02:31 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 10:47 +1000
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-23 18:43 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-24 04:29 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 17:29 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-23 23:20 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-23 16:16 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-23 15:05 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-24 16:26 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 05:32 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 15:50 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-26 01:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 15:30 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-22 18:14 -0500
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:36 -0700
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:55 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-22 01:16 +0000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 04:02 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 17:41 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 10:18 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 11:26 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 04:51 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 22:53 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 16:35 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:22 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 22:52 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-23 09:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-23 03:04 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-23 21:08 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-24 12:14 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-24 16:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-25 11:59 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-25 13:58 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-23 12:52 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-23 21:49 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-25 23:23 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-26 10:46 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-26 04:15 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-26 14:17 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-26 23:23 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-27 10:32 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-27 04:57 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 09:30 +1000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-20 20:12 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 21:47 +0100
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:18 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:18 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:19 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-17 16:28 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 18:52 +0200
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 09:57 +1000
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:20 +0000
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:20 +0200
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:36 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:26 +0000
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:06 +0200
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 20:19 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 23:22 +0200
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 23:56 +0000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 00:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 12:32 +0000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 05:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-21 14:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 10:13 +1000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 04:03 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-09-22 11:51 -0500
                                                                            Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-22 11:04 -0600
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 14:10 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 04:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 16:04 +0200
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:31 +0000
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 11:31 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-01 20:26 -0500
                          To A Atheism The Science Of Language Is Rrelativity "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-19 15:57 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:13 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 07:01 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 22:29 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 08:21 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:05 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 18:59 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 00:23 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-19 17:48 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:00 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 12:56 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-13 07:49 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 18:03 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 21:00 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 06:27 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 02:45 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 11:14 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 06:44 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 12:31 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 07:57 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 15:02 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 03:02 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 15:38 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 03:00 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 15:29 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:55 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 14:57 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-15 19:37 +0100
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-14 01:34 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 11:16 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 19:45 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 14:43 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 07:01 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 22:58 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 23:13 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:49 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:00 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 06:40 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-16 18:57 -0500
    Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:15 -0700
      Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:33 -0700
        Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:37 -0700
          Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:05 -0700
            Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:27 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:27 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:34 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:07 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:21 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:42 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 10:21 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 14:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 12:06 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 09:10 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-13 17:21 -0600
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:59 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 03:15 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 20:33 -0500
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:09 -0400
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:55 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 20:47 +1000
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-14 01:16 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:01 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 21:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:32 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-18 13:26 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 21:01 -0600
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:49 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 17:31 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:16 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 21:38 -0700
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-19 23:37 -0600
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 23:58 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:36 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 09:59 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:11 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:28 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:34 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 18:38 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:14 -0400
                                            Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-20 13:46 -0600
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 20:46 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 17:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 17:15 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 21:57 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 04:23 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:11 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 21:00 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 01:56 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:30 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 19:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:50 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:24 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:14 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 15:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-30 06:33 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:27 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:10 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:54 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 02:06 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 14:07 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 23:11 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-01 08:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-01 05:00 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 07:39 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 02:24 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 11:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 09:01 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 18:02 +0200
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 11:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-09 05:52 +0200
                                                                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-10-09 00:09 -0600
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Hello Thomas <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 07:24 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-08 07:15 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-10-08 12:36 -0600
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-08 22:56 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-10-08 15:33 -0600
                                                              Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-09 05:42 +0200
                                                                Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft A Nony Mouse <abc@cef.ghi> - 2016-10-09 00:14 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:27 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 17:26 +0000
                                    Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 11:48 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 12:54 -0500
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 12:47 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 20:50 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:31 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:41 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:36 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:00 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:32 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 22:27 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-18 06:35 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-18 07:49 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:35 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 01:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:21 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 20:04 +0000
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 04:56 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-22 01:16 +0000
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 05:03 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-23 23:17 -0600
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 17:25 +1000
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-24 22:06 +0200
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 00:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 05:18 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 13:56 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 16:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-25 11:04 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:23 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 18:54 +0200
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-26 09:59 +1000
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 07:35 +0200
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 06:27 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-27 06:10 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 12:19 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 21:42 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-26 01:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 00:39 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 14:07 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 13:09 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:50 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 20:44 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 17:49 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 02:49 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:47 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 05:57 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:12 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:22 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 19:00 +0200
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 03:58 -0400

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#394461

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-10-01 05:00 -0400
Message-ID<h2uuub1g32q99njvlglbe1cnefd26qfkn4@4ax.com>
In reply to#394458
On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 08:52:38 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
alt.atheism with message-id <e594ppFj81dU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:

>Am 30.09.2016 08:54, schrieb Attila <:
>
>>>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>>>>> importance as Naziism.
>>>>>
>>>>> TH
>>>>
>>>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>>>> psychopaths.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>>>
>>> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>>
>> No, it isn't.
>
>Well, actually you are correct.

Then why did you say it?

>
>'Nazi' is an abbreviation for 'National Socialist'.

National German Socialist Workers Party.

Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

>
>This stems from German and was meant as opposition to 'Sozi'.
>
>'Sozi' stems from 'Sozialdemokrat' (social democrat).
>
>SPD (Sozis) had fought their enemies (Nazis) in the streets of Berlin in 
>the 1920th.
>
>Finally the Nazis had won (with a little help from Wall Street).

I doubt "Wall Street" was even aware of them.  Whatever "Wall Street"
is.

>
>Anyhow..
>
>The Nazi-party had the real Name 'Nationalsozialistische Arbeiter Partei 
>Deutschland' (national-socialist workers party of Germany).
>
>They were actually not very nationalistic, but 'race-chauvinistic'.
>
>The idea of 'Aryans' came from French Count August de Gobineau, who 
>wrote a race-chauvinistic manifesto.
>
>This was supported by the British author Houston Steward Chamberlain, 
>son in Law of an Italian baroness.
>
>Till then there were no Germans involved, till Hitler came (Austrian) 
>and Henry Ford (author of 'The International Jew').
>
>Hitler's girlfriend was English again (Unity Midfort).
>
>So these guys were everything else but German nationalists.
>
>They were elitists, racists and internationalists.
>
>Their agenda was nothing in support of the country Germany or the 
>workers there. These were in both cases just 'cannon fodder'.
>
>And definitely they were not workers.
>
>What they had in mind was 'collectivism' (=Socialism).
>
>The idea behind collectivism is, that the state could try to create a 
>'super-human', if all the people unite into one single entity, which 
>thinks and acts like one being (the SUPERMAN).
>
>This did work somehow, but caused unwanted effects (like genocide, war, 
>theft of colossal proportions, invasions and a few other).
>
>So collectivism did not work, nor did actually racism.
>
>'Racism'  is in fact based on Darwin's flawed concept of evolution, 
>because the 'cleaners of the race' (Eugenics) tried to enhance the power 
>of the collective, by eliminating unwanted members of the society.
>
>They believed, that races emerge in a few centuries and therefore 
>killing sick people would make the rest fitter in case of reproduction.
>
>This is somehow possible, but only if you believe in Lamarkism, which 
>states, that acquired features could be inherited.
>
>But Darwin said, this is not possible. So only the genes decide, who 
>someone is or could become (what is wrong!). So killing unfit people 
>would strengthen the 'race'.
>
>Only this is evil blunder from beginning to end.
>
>
>TH

I am not bothering with that rambling Conspiracy Theory nonsense.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#394563

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-10-02 07:39 +0200
Message-ID<e5bktjF72cgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#394461
Am 01.10.2016 11:00, schrieb Attila <:

>>>>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>>>>>> importance as Naziism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TH
>>>>>
>>>>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>>>>> psychopaths.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>>>>
>>>> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>>>
>>> No, it isn't.
>>
>> Well, actually you are correct.
>
> Then why did you say it?


It is not the same thing, but has actually the same concept:

racism, meant as alleged of superiority of the white settlers.

(which 'allowed' them to rape, plunder and kill)

>>
>> 'Nazi' is an abbreviation for 'National Socialist'.
>
> National German Socialist Workers Party.


The party itself was not called 'Nazi'.

'Nazi' was the nickname for the followers of the Nazi-movement.

Since the party 'NSDAP' did not take everybody, who wanted to, the 
party-members were the 'elite' of the Nazis.

But a lot of other supporters were also called 'Nazis', like the members 
of the 'SS', 'SA', 'BDM' or 'HJ'.


>>
>> This stems from German and was meant as opposition to 'Sozi'.
>>
>> 'Sozi' stems from 'Sozialdemokrat' (social democrat).
>>
>> SPD (Sozis) had fought their enemies (Nazis) in the streets of Berlin in
>> the 1920th.
>>
>> Finally the Nazis had won (with a little help from Wall Street).
>
> I doubt "Wall Street" was even aware of them.  Whatever "Wall Street"
> is.
Look at 'Anthony Suton, "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler"'

Naziism had also roots in Italy, England, Canada and in the USA.

Forerunners of the German Nazi movement were the so called 'Silver 
shirts' of the USA and the black-shirts of Italy.

In the USA we had also the 'Kuhn party' and several other racists groups.

The so called 'Hitler salute' was actually derived from the 'pledge of 
allegiance' in US schools, which was invented by the US socialists 
Francis and Edward Bellamy.

'Hitler Youth' seems to be a carbon copy of the Boy Scouts and the SA 
uniforms look like derived from British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war.

Btw: 'fascism' comes from 'fasces' and those are these things, where 
Abraham Lincoln rests his arms on in Lincoln Memorial.

'Fascism'  as political system is the mixture of political power with 
oligarchal capitalism as privatised dictatorship (='corporatism').



TH

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#394566

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-10-02 02:24 -0400
Message-ID<5s91vb1cgfuqh8oiuscehi7obav5dtd51k@4ax.com>
In reply to#394563
On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:39:59 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
alt.atheism with message-id <e5bktjF72cgU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:

>Am 01.10.2016 11:00, schrieb Attila <:
>
>>>>>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>>>>>>> importance as Naziism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>>>>>> psychopaths.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>>>>>
>>>>> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>>>>
>>>> No, it isn't.
>>>
>>> Well, actually you are correct.
>>
>> Then why did you say it?
>
>
>It is not the same thing, but has actually the same concept:
>
>racism, meant as alleged of superiority of the white settlers.
>
>(which 'allowed' them to rape, plunder and kill)

Every society has had a sub-class.

>
>>>
>>> 'Nazi' is an abbreviation for 'National Socialist'.
>>
>> National German Socialist Workers Party.
>
>
>The party itself was not called 'Nazi'.
>
>'Nazi' was the nickname for the followers of the Nazi-movement.
>
>Since the party 'NSDAP' did not take everybody, who wanted to, the 
>party-members were the 'elite' of the Nazis.
>
>But a lot of other supporters were also called 'Nazis', like the members 
>of the 'SS', 'SA', 'BDM' or 'HJ'.

Part of the Party.

>
>
>>>
>>> This stems from German and was meant as opposition to 'Sozi'.
>>>
>>> 'Sozi' stems from 'Sozialdemokrat' (social democrat).
>>>
>>> SPD (Sozis) had fought their enemies (Nazis) in the streets of Berlin in
>>> the 1920th.
>>>
>>> Finally the Nazis had won (with a little help from Wall Street).
>>
>> I doubt "Wall Street" was even aware of them.  Whatever "Wall Street"
>> is.
>Look at 'Anthony Suton, "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler"'
>
>Naziism had also roots in Italy, England, Canada and in the USA.
>
>Forerunners of the German Nazi movement were the so called 'Silver 
>shirts' of the USA and the black-shirts of Italy.
>
>In the USA we had also the 'Kuhn party' and several other racists groups.
>
>The so called 'Hitler salute' was actually derived from the 'pledge of 
>allegiance' in US schools, which was invented by the US socialists 
>Francis and Edward Bellamy.

Actually it goes back to Rome.

>
>'Hitler Youth' seems to be a carbon copy of the Boy Scouts and the SA 
>uniforms look like derived from British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war.
>
>Btw: 'fascism' comes from 'fasces' and those are these things, where 
>Abraham Lincoln rests his arms on in Lincoln Memorial.
>
>'Fascism'  as political system is the mixture of political power with 
>oligarchal capitalism as privatised dictatorship (='corporatism').
>
>
>
>TH

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#394585

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2016-10-02 11:53 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnv1t9n.oqe.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#394566
Attila wrote:
> Thomas Heger wrote:

----snip----

> > The so called 'Hitler salute' was actually derived from the
> > 'pledge of allegiance' in US schools, which was invented by
> > the US socialists Francis and Edward Bellamy.
>
> Actually it goes back to Rome.

So some say. But there's no evidence for ir; in fact, it looks
a lot like an attempt to deflect sone of the ignominy from the
USA.

Ned

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#394593

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-10-02 09:01 -0400
Message-ID<9712vbp236lm90h0vjqfm71pqogi1h599k@4ax.com>
In reply to#394585
On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 11:53:27 GMT, Ned Latham
<nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> in alt.atheism with message-id
<slrnnv1t9n.oqe.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

>Attila wrote:
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>----snip----
>
>> > The so called 'Hitler salute' was actually derived from the
>> > 'pledge of allegiance' in US schools, which was invented by
>> > the US socialists Francis and Edward Bellamy.
>>
>> Actually it goes back to Rome.
>
>So some say. But there's no evidence for ir; in fact, it looks
>a lot like an attempt to deflect sone of the ignominy from the
>USA.
>
>Ned

Does it really matter?  Just about everything is stolen from somewhere
else.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#394607

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-10-02 18:02 +0200
Message-ID<e5cpdjFfgviU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#394593
Am 02.10.2016 15:01, schrieb Attila <:
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 11:53:27 GMT, Ned Latham
> <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>  in alt.atheism with message-id
> <slrnnv1t9n.oqe.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>  wrote:
>
>> Attila wrote:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> ----snip----
>>
>>>> The so called 'Hitler salute' was actually derived from the
>>>> 'pledge of allegiance' in US schools, which was invented by
>>>> the US socialists Francis and Edward Bellamy.
>>>
>>> Actually it goes back to Rome.
>>
>> So some say. But there's no evidence for ir; in fact, it looks
>> a lot like an attempt to deflect sone of the ignominy from the
>> USA.
>>
>> Ned
>
> Does it really matter?  Just about everything is stolen from somewhere
> else.
>

You won't believe, what the Nazis have actually stolen.

It was not everything, but almost.

Treasurer of the Nazis was Martin Borman.

Borman was brought to England by the 'real James Bond' John 
Ainsworth-Davis, under direction of Ian Fleming in 'Operation James Bond'.

(Actually the real 'James Bond' was author of a book about the birds of 
the Caribbeans.)

The Nazi salute seems to be an offspring of the salute of the boy scouts 
and the flag salute 'pledge of allegiance' in US schools.

http://rexcurry.net/scouting-calgaric-lithuanian-klaipeda08-17-1933.jpg

http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html


BTW: Baden-Powel was member of the so called 'Millner's Kindergarden' in 
the second Boer war, together with Churchill and Kitchener.

http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-mibhu8c/product_images/uploaded_images/boer-war.jpg?t=1415058780


for comparison the SA uniform:

http://www.janssen-militaria.com/oscommerce/popup_image.php?pID=5712&invis=1&osCsid=d2f1c437ef3c3c2a489d0b277fdd6daa



TH

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#394610

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-02 11:02 -0700
Message-ID<57F14BB8.6D61@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394607
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 02.10.2016 15:01, schrieb Attila <:
> > On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 11:53:27 GMT, Ned Latham
> > <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>  in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <slrnnv1t9n.oqe.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>  wrote:
> >
> >> Attila wrote:
> >>> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>
> >> ----snip----
> >>
> >>>> The so called 'Hitler salute' was actually derived from the
> >>>> 'pledge of allegiance' in US schools, which was invented by
> >>>> the US socialists Francis and Edward Bellamy.
> >>>
> >>> Actually it goes back to Rome.
> >>
> >> So some say. But there's no evidence for ir; in fact, it looks
> >> a lot like an attempt to deflect sone of the ignominy from the
> >> USA.
> >>
> >> Ned
> >
> > Does it really matter?  Just about everything is stolen from somewhere
> > else.
> >
> 
> You won't believe, what the Nazis have actually stolen.
> 
> It was not everything, but almost.

The Nazis did not steal..they simply learned from others.

Aldolph Hitler studied American History books and learned the methods
the US used to
kill the millions of American Indians.

How did the U.S. kill american indians? They surrounded the tee pees at
night and shot the indians while they were sleeping.
















> 
> Treasurer of the Nazis was Martin Borman.
> 
> Borman was brought to England by the 'real James Bond' John
> Ainsworth-Davis, under direction of Ian Fleming in 'Operation James Bond'.
> 
> (Actually the real 'James Bond' was author of a book about the birds of
> the Caribbeans.)
> 
> The Nazi salute seems to be an offspring of the salute of the boy scouts
> and the flag salute 'pledge of allegiance' in US schools.
> 
> http://rexcurry.net/scouting-calgaric-lithuanian-klaipeda08-17-1933.jpg
> 
> http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html
> 
> BTW: Baden-Powel was member of the so called 'Millner's Kindergarden' in
> the second Boer war, together with Churchill and Kitchener.
> 
> http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-mibhu8c/product_images/uploaded_images/boer-war.jpg?t=1415058780
> 
> for comparison the SA uniform:
> 
> http://www.janssen-militaria.com/oscommerce/popup_image.php?pID=5712&invis=1&osCsid=d2f1c437ef3c3c2a489d0b277fdd6daa
> 
> TH

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#395241

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-10-09 05:52 +0200
Message-ID<e5tt77FhqefU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#394610
Am 02.10.2016 20:02, schrieb The Starmaker:

>>>
>>> Does it really matter?  Just about everything is stolen from somewhere
>>> else.
>>>
>>
>> You won't believe, what the Nazis have actually stolen.
>>
>> It was not everything, but almost.
>
> The Nazis did not steal..they simply learned from others.


Well, possibly the Nazis have just 'borrowed' the wealth of their victims.

> Aldolph Hitler studied American History books and learned the methods

Most of Hitler's books were actually from England. About half of is 
large library was a British military magazine.

> the US used to
> kill the millions of American Indians.
>
> How did the U.S. kill american indians? They surrounded the tee pees at
> night and shot the indians while they were sleeping.
>

Did you know, that the current USA was actually a British colony. (a 
part was French and another part Spanish)

If was 'owned' by the so called 'Virginia Company of London' as 'gift' 
by King James.

So the first settlers had similar status as the pirates of 'Sir' Francis 
Drake (bunch of untidy British criminals).


TH

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#395243 — Re: Theism is Witchcraft

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-10-09 00:09 -0600
SubjectRe: Theism is Witchcraft
Message-ID<aaa-60E6D4.00093209102016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#395241
Theism is Witchcraft!!!

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#394914

FromHello Thomas <tsp2opt@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-05 07:24 -0700
Message-ID<685df126-0bd7-428b-9096-fef9197259eb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#394336
Dear Thomas, I dispute your claim that the British invented concentration camps.  It seems clear that camps were used by Imperial Spain, in Cuba, in 1986, four years before their adoption by the British in South Africa.

It is not clear who invented the concentration camp - I think it was
probably the Romans; however, a well-known example is the
"Reconcentrado Policy" of Imperial Spain, used to put down an uprising of the Cubans in 1895 - 1898.

The British Army sent two observers to Cuba to evaluate the Spanish tactic. One of these was Winston Churchill. Wonder if that's when he picked up his fondness for cigars. So Kitchener was definitely aware of the tactic and its use in Spain before the Second Anglo Boer War (1899 - 1902), in which Britain used concentration camps.

There's a description of the Spanish camps here, made by US Senator
Redfield Proctor. It appears in Clara Barton's THE RED CROSS,
entitled 'Concentration Camps of Cuba 1895-1898'.

http://www.amigospais-guaracabuya.org/oagld003.php

As you can see the Spanish reconcentrados exhibit the sinister morphology of the concentration camp - the barbed wire, the watch towers, the location near rail junctions, interned civilians, guards,
ditches...

You can see the effect of the Spanish camps here:

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/reconcentrado.htm

Since 1895 is definitely before 1899 it seems that the dishonour for
inventing concentration camps belongs to our Spanish cousins. The Spanish camps killed far more people than the British camps; the Havana camp alone killed 50,000 people; nearly twice as many victims as the 28,000 Boer deaths that concern us so much today. It is estimated the Spanish camps killed 100,000 - 300,000 people in total.

Here is Castro addressing Pope John Paul:

"Under extremely difficult conditions, Cuba was able to constitute a nation. It had to fight alone for its independence with nsurmountable heroism and, exactly 100 years ago, it suffered a real holocaust in the concentration camps were a large part of its population perished, mostly old men, women and children; a crime whose monstrosity is not diminished by the fact that it has been forgotten by humanity's conscience."

There's no doubt that Britain used concentration camps in South Africa in 1900, to combat the Boer and Irish guerilla warfare, but it's not true that Britain invented concentration camps.

"of all the misleading Nazi propaganda, no lie was more successful than the one which suggested that concentration camps were an invention of the British and that the Germans had only developed and expanded a concept which had its roots in the British Empire. The idea that the British invented concentration camps had sedulously peddled during the 1930s by the leaders of the Third Reich. In February 1938, for example, Sir Neville Henderson, British Ambassador to Germany, had a meeting with Hermann Goering. In the course of their encounter in Berlin, Henderson denouced the "loathsome and detestable" taking place in concentration camps such as Dachau and Buchenwald. For answer, Goering went to a bookshelf and took down the volume of a German encyclopedia covering the letter K and showed the ambassador the entry for 'Konzentrationslager', which began "First used by the British in the South African War..."

"Throughout the 1930s, Minister for Propaganda Josef Goebbels had also
fostered the notion that concentration camps were a British invention.
Postcards purporting to the grim conditions in the camps run by the
British during the Boer War were circulated."

British Concentration Camps: A Brief History from 1900-1975
By Simon Webb

It seems clear that concentration camps were an invention of colonialism, being used in Cuba (by Spain, 1896), South Africa (by Britain, 1900), and Deutsche Sud-West Afrika (1905, run by Heinrich Goering, Herman's dad). 

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#395175

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-10-08 07:15 +0200
Message-ID<e5rdomFu6fmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#394914
Am 05.10.2016 16:24, schrieb Hello Thomas:
> Dear Thomas, I dispute your claim that the British invented concentration camps.  It seems clear that camps were used by Imperial Spain, in Cuba, in 1986, four years before their adoption by the British in South Africa.
>
> It is not clear who invented the concentration camp - I think it was
> probably the Romans; however, a well-known example is the
> "Reconcentrado Policy" of Imperial Spain, used to put down an uprising of the Cubans in 1895 - 1898.
>
> The British Army sent two observers to Cuba to evaluate the Spanish tactic. One of these was Winston Churchill. Wonder if that's when he picked up his fondness for cigars. So Kitchener was definitely aware of the tactic and its use in Spain before the Second Anglo Boer War (1899 - 1902), in which Britain used concentration camps.
>
> There's a description of the Spanish camps here, made by US Senator
> Redfield Proctor. It appears in Clara Barton's THE RED CROSS,
> entitled 'Concentration Camps of Cuba 1895-1898'.
>
> http://www.amigospais-guaracabuya.org/oagld003.php
>
> As you can see the Spanish reconcentrados exhibit the sinister morphology of the concentration camp - the barbed wire, the watch towers, the location near rail junctions, interned civilians, guards,
> ditches...
>


I didn't say, that England was inventor of concentration camps, but the 
members of 'Milner's kindergarden'.

This would include Churchill, Kitchener, Baden-Powell, Milner and a few 
others.

But, apparently, they did not.

So there have been earlier forms of similar crimes conducted by the 
Spanish Conquerors in South America.

So I was actually wrong and ascribed inventions to who were not the 
first users of such means for mass murder.

Well, ok, those Brits have not invented concentration camps.

But actually I had written about Germany. And if the Brits have not 
invented such camps, the Germans didn't neither.

Sure, Germany Nazis were good friends with Spanish suckers like Franco.

And certainly I would not worry too much about Herman Göring. But it's 
interesting to learn, that his father was head of a concentration camp 
in German South-West Africa (didn't know that).

This is why we should not think about Naziism in terms of nations, but 
must think about in terms of people. The set of influential people 
involved in such atrocities seems to be limited, since most people 
regard death camps as violation of human rights and international law.

So Nazis did not only commit crimes against humanity, they are also 
traitors and violate the legal interests of their respective nation.

They also violate spiritual laws, like  for instance the ten commandments.

So it would be nice to know, who those guys actually are and how it is 
possible to identify them safely.


TH

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#395203

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-10-08 12:36 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-21FA0B.12365808102016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#395175
Theism is witchcraft, atheism is its absence!

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#395208

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-10-08 22:56 +0200
Message-ID<e5t4sjFcluiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#395203
Am 08.10.2016 20:36, schrieb Wisely Non-Theist:
> Theism is witchcraft, atheism is its absence!


I'm not exactly sure, how your statement fits to 'Spanish concentration 
camps'.

Maybe think, the witches are responsible and not the Nazis.

Well...

What I do not understand, that is the question: why?

Why, actually, have they killed people by the millions in the colonies.

What was the benefit?

Usually the people of a country are, what is generating wealth. If you 
kill them, you generate less wealth, not more.

There is also the severe risk, that victims take revenge some day.

But some cultures seem to love violence and love to kill somebody, even 
if those were the own working force.

So genocides do not make sense (besides being immoral and criminal).



TH

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#395209 — Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft

FromVirgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com>
Date2016-10-08 15:33 -0600
SubjectRe: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft
Message-ID<VIRGIL-FC7AB3.15332608102016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#395208
In article <e5t4sjFcluiU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 08.10.2016 20:36, schrieb Wisely Non-Theist:
> > Theism is witchcraft, atheism is its absence!
> 
> 
> I'm not exactly sure, how your statement fits to 'Spanish concentration 
> camps'.
 
It fits the subject title, " Atheism is Witchcraft".
-- 
Virgil
"Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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#395239 — Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-10-09 05:42 +0200
SubjectRe: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft
Message-ID<e5tskpFhmjhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#395209
Am 08.10.2016 23:33, schrieb Virgil:

>>
>> I'm not exactly sure, how your statement fits to 'Spanish concentration
>> camps'.
>
> It fits the subject title, " Atheism is Witchcraft".

If you want to reply to what someone has written, you push the 
'reply'-button (in 'Thunderbird') and write something. But this thread 
is now divided is several sub-threads, which all cover different subjects.

If you reply to a message in this part, you should at least make some 
references to a previous post.

Since this reference is left out, I can copy and paste a short paragraph 
from a previous message, to give a hint for the context of our 
discussion. This was:

"Dear Thomas, I dispute your claim that the British invented 
concentration camps.  It seems clear that camps were used by Imperial 
Spain, in Cuba, in 1986, four years before their adoption by the British 
in South Africa.

It is not clear who invented the concentration camp - I think it was
probably the Romans; however, a well-known example is the
"Reconcentrado Policy" of Imperial Spain, used to put down an uprising 
of the Cubans in 1895 - 1898."

Now I had asked, what was the benefit of genocide  in South America.

As a reply came a remark about witchcraft.

Well, possibly, witchcraft is actually responsible for genocide and 
concentration camps.

But 'witchcraft' is not really fitting, since kind of female, while 
genocides show more male characteristics. Maybe 'sorcery' would fit better.


TH

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#395244 — Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft

FromA Nony Mouse <abc@cef.ghi>
Date2016-10-09 00:14 -0600
SubjectRe: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft
Message-ID<abc-460848.00143309102016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#395239
In article <e5tskpFhmjhU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 08.10.2016 23:33, schrieb Virgil:
> 
> >>
> >> I'm not exactly sure, how your statement fits to 'Spanish concentration
> >> camps'.
> >
> > It fits the subject title, " Atheism is Witchcraft".


> But 'witchcraft' is not really fitting, since kind of female, while 
> genocides show more male characteristics. Maybe 'sorcery' would fit better.
 
Witchcraft includes the acts of warlocks!

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#392735

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-17 12:27 -0700
Message-ID<57DD9928.4520@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#392681
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> 
> In article <e44684FmjdcU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> 
> > Am 17.09.2016 03:56, schrieb jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com:
> >
> > >> Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going
> > >> that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what
> > >> they always do?
> > >
> > > I am not the one confusing athesism with four or five entirely different
> > > things.
> > >
> > > Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
> > > predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
> > > responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
> > > supernatural beings.
> >
> > Darwin was an evil British idiot.
> 
> How was he "evil"?

He wrote a book to try explain away God. He blamed God for his daughter death.

He wanted to Kill God...

because he believed God killed his daughter.


You know how these mad scientist get...you get them angry and they want to blow up the earth.


The book, "On the origin of species" is a book on Witchcraft!


The word ""On the origin..." is another word of say...'God is not the origin."


These 'science guys' are always trying to explain away God.


First these science guys had said that the universe Always existed, so there was no need for a creation.

Then they changed their mind and said Yes, there was a creation, but it was created from nothing.

Always, always trying to explain away God.


Atheisism means..to explain away God.






-----
is Jeanne Douglas a Witch?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Jeanne+Douglas&biw=1280&bih=871&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM0sqjjpfPAhUP5mMKHZvNBh8Q_AUIBygA&dpr=1#q=jeanne+douglas+witchcraft

a good witch or a bad witch?? 

I didn't know there was a school for witches....


could be the wrong witch...

which witch?

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#392719

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-09-17 17:26 +0000
Message-ID<30b0bd-tua.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#392675
In sci.physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> Am 17.09.2016 03:56, schrieb jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com:
> 
>>> Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going
>>> that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what
>>> they always do?
>>
>> I am not the one confusing athesism with four or five entirely different
>> things.
>>
>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
>> supernatural beings.
> 
> Darwin was an evil British idiot.
> 
> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him 
> personally to various 'bad guys'.
> 
> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For 
> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.
> 
> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a 
> variety of species.
> 
> He also miscalculated the age of the Earth by a factor of 10,000 and 
> that is extremely large.
> 
> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals, 
> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.
> 
> There it gets criminal, since the Eugenics movement was responsible for 
> real crimes, which they pretended to be justified by  the 'purification 
> of the races'.
> 
> 
> TH
 
And all that has just what to do with athesism?
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#392720 — Re: Theism is Witchcraft

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-09-17 11:48 -0600
SubjectRe: Theism is Witchcraft
Message-ID<aaa-D1987F.11482317092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#392719
No form of Atheism requires any form of magic or witchery! 
Every form of theism does!

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#392721

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-09-17 12:54 -0500
Message-ID<qtvqtbp9cqhagtv8umbbnlab0j3aq21g5f@4ax.com>
In reply to#392719
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 17:26:59 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> Am 17.09.2016 03:56, schrieb jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com:
>> 
>>>> Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going
>>>> that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what
>>>> they always do?
>>>
>>> I am not the one confusing athesism with four or five entirely different
>>> things.
>>>
>>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
>>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
>>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
>>> supernatural beings.
>> 
>> Darwin was an evil British idiot.

Darwin was one of the giants of science, on a par with Newton and
Einstein. He wasn't just the father of a whole slew of biological
sciences, but was also a major contributor to the scientific method
itself with the use of confirmation of refutation of prediction.

>> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him 
>> personally to various 'bad guys'.

What a fucking moron. a liar as well as an idiot.

>> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For 
>> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.

No, moron. He _concluded_ natural selection - that which survives
passes on its descendents whatever caused it to survive, and that
which doesn't, doesn't. 

That's actually a bit of an exaggeration, because immediate survival
or death, is an edge condition - it's all about reproductive success
over many generations.

But it was one of those "Eureka" moments which it takes a genius to
see for the first time, even if it is obvious in retrospect although
nobody had realised it until then.

>> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a 
>> variety of species.

Bollocks.
 
>> He also miscalculated the age of the Earth by a factor of 10,000 and 
>> that is extremely large.

More bollocks.
 
>> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals, 
>> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.

Even more bollocks.

Natural selection is simply a label for what is observed, not an
ideology, not an instruction to psychopaths to kill people in order to
exterminate an entire race.
 
>> There it gets criminal, since the Eugenics movement was responsible for 
>> real crimes, which they pretended to be justified by  the 'purification 
>> of the races'.

Which only a deliberate liar associates with Darwin, because he didn't
say anything about the selective breeding of humans.
 
>> TH
> 
>And all that has just what to do with athesism?

Nothing at all.

Far too many theists try to attack atheists by lying about things that
are nothing to do with atheism.

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