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Atheism is Witchcraft

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
Last post2016-09-14 03:58 -0400
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  Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Normal Human <NH@....> - 2016-09-12 08:01 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 15:24 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-11 16:28 -0600
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 07:31 +0200
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-12 12:57 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 05:59 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 08:57 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:04 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-12 14:26 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 19:18 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 12:37 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 22:43 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:14 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-12 22:18 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 06:45 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 23:56 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 08:16 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:07 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 22:00 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:53 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 20:15 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 01:34 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:23 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-15 11:29 -0600
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 20:44 +0200
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-16 06:34 +1000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 20:02 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 19:05 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 10:25 +1000
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 22:11 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:25 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 06:20 +0200
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 22:57 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:16 +0200
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:01 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-17 11:54 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 09:55 +1000
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 04:26 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 16:15 +0200
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 11:29 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 09:59 +1000
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:25 +0200
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 20:56 -0600
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:48 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 16:11 +1000
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:28 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 11:37 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:11 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 12:12 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 03:57 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 19:14 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 10:37 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 09:28 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-22 00:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 03:50 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 18:17 +1000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 02:19 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-22 02:35 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 10:13 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 12:37 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-23 14:59 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 10:35 +1000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 05:55 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 05:13 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 19:20 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 17:16 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 06:44 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-25 22:40 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-26 17:56 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 23:09 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-27 19:02 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 20:23 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 10:18 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-28 03:34 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 11:41 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-28 20:34 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-28 04:48 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-28 18:10 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-29 10:07 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-29 08:04 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 06:43 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-27 19:06 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-27 05:08 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-27 20:28 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-28 01:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-27 23:55 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-28 15:04 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:06 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-29 00:03 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 00:38 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 00:37 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-29 15:48 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 23:59 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-28 11:50 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-27 22:30 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-28 14:58 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:07 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-28 16:02 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-27 10:07 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-19 16:08 +1000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:53 +0200
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:36 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 17:27 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:33 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-20 09:40 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 03:58 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 12:05 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 04:10 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 20:31 +0000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 23:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 00:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-20 11:51 +1000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:14 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 23:38 +0200
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:31 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-21 11:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 04:16 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 21:42 +0200
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-21 16:22 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 10:11 +1000
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-22 08:34 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-21 23:55 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 17:37 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-22 22:23 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 12:38 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 06:20 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 02:28 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-22 22:11 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-22 22:25 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 04:36 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 16:18 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 02:38 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 18:20 +1000
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 09:30 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 18:17 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-23 02:31 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 10:47 +1000
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-23 18:43 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-24 04:29 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 17:29 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-23 23:20 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-23 16:16 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-23 15:05 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-24 16:26 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 05:32 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 15:50 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-26 01:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 15:30 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-22 18:14 -0500
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:36 -0700
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 17:55 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-22 01:16 +0000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 04:02 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 17:41 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 10:18 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 11:26 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 04:51 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 22:53 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-23 16:35 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:22 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-22 22:52 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-23 09:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-23 03:04 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-23 21:08 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-24 12:14 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-24 16:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-25 11:59 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-25 13:58 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-23 12:52 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-23 21:49 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-25 23:23 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-26 10:46 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-26 04:15 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-26 14:17 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-26 23:23 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-27 10:32 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-27 04:57 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 09:30 +1000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-20 20:12 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2016-09-21 21:47 +0100
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:18 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:18 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:19 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-17 16:28 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 18:52 +0200
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 09:57 +1000
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:20 +0000
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:20 +0200
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:36 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:26 +0000
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:06 +0200
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 20:19 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 23:22 +0200
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 23:56 +0000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 00:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 12:32 +0000
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 05:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-21 14:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 10:13 +1000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 04:03 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-09-22 11:51 -0500
                                                                            Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-22 11:04 -0600
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 14:10 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 04:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 16:04 +0200
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:31 +0000
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 11:31 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-01 20:26 -0500
                          To A Atheism The Science Of Language Is Rrelativity "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-19 15:57 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:13 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 07:01 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 22:29 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 08:21 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:05 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 18:59 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 00:23 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-19 17:48 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:00 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 12:56 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-13 07:49 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 18:03 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 21:00 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 06:27 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 02:45 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 11:14 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 06:44 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 12:31 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 07:57 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 15:02 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 03:02 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 15:38 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 03:00 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 15:29 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:55 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 14:57 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-15 19:37 +0100
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-14 01:34 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 11:16 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 19:45 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 14:43 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 07:01 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 22:58 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 23:13 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:49 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:00 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 06:40 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-16 18:57 -0500
    Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:15 -0700
      Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:33 -0700
        Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:37 -0700
          Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:05 -0700
            Atheism is Witchcraft "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:27 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:27 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:34 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:07 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:21 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:42 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 10:21 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 14:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 12:06 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 09:10 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-13 17:21 -0600
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:59 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 03:15 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 20:33 -0500
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:09 -0400
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:55 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 20:47 +1000
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-14 01:16 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:01 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 21:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:32 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-18 13:26 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 21:01 -0600
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:49 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 17:31 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:16 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 21:38 -0700
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-19 23:37 -0600
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 23:58 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:36 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 09:59 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:11 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:28 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:34 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 18:38 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:14 -0400
                                            Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-20 13:46 -0600
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 20:46 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 17:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 17:15 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 21:57 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 04:23 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:11 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 21:00 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 01:56 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:30 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 19:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:50 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:24 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:14 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 15:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-30 06:33 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:27 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:48 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:10 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:54 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 02:06 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 14:07 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 23:11 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-01 08:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-01 05:00 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 07:39 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 02:24 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 11:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 09:01 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 18:02 +0200
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 11:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-09 05:52 +0200
                                                                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-10-09 00:09 -0600
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Hello Thomas <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 07:24 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-08 07:15 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-10-08 12:36 -0600
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-08 22:56 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-10-08 15:33 -0600
                                                              Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-09 05:42 +0200
                                                                Re: Atheism is NOT Witchcraft A Nony Mouse <abc@cef.ghi> - 2016-10-09 00:14 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:27 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 17:26 +0000
                                    Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 11:48 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 12:54 -0500
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 12:47 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 20:50 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:31 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:41 +0000
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:36 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:00 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:25 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:32 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 22:27 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-18 06:35 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-18 07:49 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:35 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 01:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:21 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 20:04 +0000
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 04:56 +0200
                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-22 01:16 +0000
                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 05:03 +0200
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-23 23:17 -0600
                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 17:25 +1000
                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-24 22:06 +0200
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 00:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 05:18 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 13:56 +0200
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 16:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-25 11:04 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:23 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 18:54 +0200
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-26 09:59 +1000
                                                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 07:35 +0200
                                                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 06:27 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-27 06:10 +0000
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 12:19 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 21:42 +0000
                                                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-26 01:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 00:39 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 14:07 +0200
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 13:09 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:50 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 20:44 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 17:49 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 02:49 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:47 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 05:57 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:12 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:22 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 19:00 +0200
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 03:58 -0400

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#392680

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
Message-ID<mu8qtbhpnc2cnghqafb008k9ek1hvueq7s@4ax.com>
In reply to#392675
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:30:25 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
alt.atheism with message-id <e44684FmjdcU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:

>Am 17.09.2016 03:56, schrieb jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com:
>
>>> Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going
>>> that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what
>>> they always do?
>>
>> I am not the one confusing athesism with four or five entirely different
>> things.
>>
>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
>> supernatural beings.
>
>Darwin was an evil British idiot.

At least you got the British part right.

>
>He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him 
>personally to various 'bad guys'.

Nonsense.

>
>But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For 
>instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.
>
>Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a 
>variety of species.

So what?  very new effort is usually modified over time as the process
is better understood and more data is gathered. 

>
>He also miscalculated the age of the Earth by a factor of 10,000 and 
>that is extremely large.

Not nearly as large as many others who attempted the same thing.

>
>But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals, 
>since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.

His work was scientific, not political.

>
>There it gets criminal, since the Eugenics movement was responsible for 
>real crimes, which they pretended to be justified by  the 'purification 
>of the races'.
>

He made no such pronouncements.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#392681

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-9DC404.04143017092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#392675
In article <e44684FmjdcU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 17.09.2016 03:56, schrieb jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com:
> 
> >> Look folks, it's Chimp in attack mode just after he accused me of going
> >> that way. Why is it that kooks always accuse everyone else of doing what
> >> they always do?
> >
> > I am not the one confusing athesism with four or five entirely different
> > things.
> >
> > Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
> > predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
> > responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
> > supernatural beings.
> 
> Darwin was an evil British idiot.

How was he "evil"?


> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him 
> personally to various 'bad guys'.

What is this line? 

You do know that a person is not responsible for evil people 
misinterpreting and corrupting his work?

> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For 
> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.

So what? We've moved 150 years past what Darwin could learn with the 
technology of his day. His major value nowadays is as the urDaddy of the 
science of evolution.


> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a 
> variety of species.

Yeah, so what?

> He also miscalculated the age of the Earth by a factor of 10,000 and 
> that is extremely large.

So fucking what?


> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals, 
> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.

What were Darwin's "political goals"? And what does Darwin have to do 
with a vile practice that was invented years after he died?


> There it gets criminal, since the Eugenics movement was responsible for 
> real crimes, which they pretended to be justified by  the 'purification 
> of the races'.

Which had absolutely nothing to do with Darwin.


You DO realize, don't you, that by this same logic, gun manufacturers 
are responsible for every crime committed by anyone with one of their 
guns.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#392693

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
Message-ID<e45225Ft4sjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#392681
Am 17.09.2016 13:14, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:

>>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
>>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
>>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
>>> supernatural beings.
>>
>> Darwin was an evil British idiot.
>
> How was he "evil"?
>
>
>> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him
>> personally to various 'bad guys'.
>
> What is this line?

There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'.

He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to 
Count Arthur de Gobineau.

 From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite 
influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward 
Chamberlain.

Chamberlain was the son in law of Richard Wagner. He wrote a lot of 
racist Nazi-pamphlet, to which a Lord Redescale wrote the forwards.

This guy was the owner of a gold-mine in the Canadian town 'Swastika', 
which had as a logo the real Nazi-swastika (in 1912).

He was a friend of Richard Wagner. His granddaughter was Unity Midfort 
and that was Hitler's girlfriend. Another granddaughter was Lady Diana 
Guiness, who married the leader of the BuF (Sir Oswald Mosley).

Lord Redescale was assumed to be the illegitimate father of Clementine 
Hozier, which was the wife of Winston Churchill.

Thomas Huxley had a grandson, who was the leader of 'Eugenics' (Julian 
Huxley).

Julian Huxley was also a spy and founder of UNESCO.

His brother Aldous was member of the so called apostles of Cambridge, 
(which was the British version of 'Skull and Bones'). There he met 
Ludwig Wittgenstein and Bertrand Russel.

Russel was the head of the 'Fabians' and promoter of (national-) Socialism.

The other brother of Julian Huxley was Noel Trevenen Huxley. And for 
some reason I assume, this was the British spy commonly known as 'Hitler'.



> You do know that a person is not responsible for evil people
> misinterpreting and corrupting his work?

This depends a little on the circumstances.

If you take part in a plot, than you are also responsible.

Darwin's books seem to me like being propaganda in the sense of Eugenics 
and the Fabians. And both are apparently part of something sinister 
called 'New World Order'.



>> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For
>> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.
>
> So what? We've moved 150 years past what Darwin could learn with the
> technology of his day. His major value nowadays is as the urDaddy of the
> science of evolution.


Even if the main principle might be correct, his intention was not true 
science, but some kind of attack on religions.

To make his version of evolution at least somehow plausible, he had to 
make the evolution of species MUCH faster than it really is.

He had an 'error factor' of more than 10,000 , by which the evolution 
took longer than he thought.

This was needed, to justify such evil agenda (as Eugenics) and what I 
assume to be intentional.

>
>> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a
>> variety of species.
>
> Yeah, so what?


Well, 'competition between the individuals/races/species' was the 
principle what he assumed top be the driving mechanism in all life.

 From this idea stems actually the term 'Darwinism' or 'survival of the 
fittest'.

Only: this is not true and the fittest do not always survive.

Another powerful concept is called 'cooperation', which we find all over 
the place.

E.g. dogs just love to do something with and/or for their human 
counterpart.

>
>> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals,
>> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.
>
> What were Darwin's "political goals"? And what does Darwin have to do
> with a vile practice that was invented years after he died?


His political goals are rather unimportant. But someone paid him and his 
voyage, who eventually had political goals.


TH

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#392769

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-583327.16443717092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#392693
In article <e45225Ft4sjU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 17.09.2016 13:14, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> 
> >>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
> >>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
> >>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
> >>> supernatural beings.
> >>
> >> Darwin was an evil British idiot.
> >
> > How was he "evil"?
> >
> >
> >> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him
> >> personally to various 'bad guys'.
> >
> > What is this line?
> 
> There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'.
> 
> He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to 
> Count Arthur de Gobineau.
> 
>  From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite 
> influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward 
> Chamberlain.
> 
> Chamberlain was the son in law of Richard Wagner. He wrote a lot of 
> racist Nazi-pamphlet, to which a Lord Redescale wrote the forwards.
> 
> This guy was the owner of a gold-mine in the Canadian town 'Swastika', 
> which had as a logo the real Nazi-swastika (in 1912).
> 
> He was a friend of Richard Wagner. His granddaughter was Unity Midfort 
> and that was Hitler's girlfriend. Another granddaughter was Lady Diana 
> Guiness, who married the leader of the BuF (Sir Oswald Mosley).
> 
> Lord Redescale was assumed to be the illegitimate father of Clementine 
> Hozier, which was the wife of Winston Churchill.
> 
> Thomas Huxley had a grandson, who was the leader of 'Eugenics' (Julian 
> Huxley).
> 
> Julian Huxley was also a spy and founder of UNESCO.
> 
> His brother Aldous was member of the so called apostles of Cambridge, 
> (which was the British version of 'Skull and Bones'). There he met 
> Ludwig Wittgenstein and Bertrand Russel.
> 
> Russel was the head of the 'Fabians' and promoter of (national-) Socialism.
> 
> The other brother of Julian Huxley was Noel Trevenen Huxley. And for 
> some reason I assume, this was the British spy commonly known as 'Hitler'.

And how does ANY of this indict Darwin? 


> > You do know that a person is not responsible for evil people
> > misinterpreting and corrupting his work?
> 
> This depends a little on the circumstances.
> 
> If you take part in a plot, than you are also responsible.
> 
> Darwin's books seem to me like being propaganda in the sense of Eugenics 
> and the Fabians. And both are apparently part of something sinister 
> called 'New World Order'.

And now you've proven yourself an irredeemable idiot.


> >> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For
> >> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.
> >
> > So what? We've moved 150 years past what Darwin could learn with the
> > technology of his day. His major value nowadays is as the urDaddy of the
> > science of evolution.
> 
> 
> Even if the main principle might be correct, his intention was not true 
> science, but some kind of attack on religions.

How was it that? He was a loyal member of the COE until his daughter 
died.


> To make his version of evolution at least somehow plausible, he had to 
> make the evolution of species MUCH faster than it really is.

So what? Why are you having so much problem understanding how much our 
knowledge has increased in the last 150 years?


> He had an 'error factor' of more than 10,000 , by which the evolution 
> took longer than he thought.
> 
> This was needed, to justify such evil agenda (as Eugenics) and what I 
> assume to be intentional.

And ever loonier. Provide evidence that Darwin ever espoused eugenics.


> >> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a
> >> variety of species.
> >
> > Yeah, so what?
> 
> 
> Well, 'competition between the individuals/races/species' was the 
> principle what he assumed top be the driving mechanism in all life.

So what?


>  From this idea stems actually the term 'Darwinism' or 'survival of the 
> fittest'.

Which, of course, is a distortion of what Darwin said.


> Only: this is not true and the fittest do not always survive.

Of course not. It's about the survival of species, not of individuals. 
Why don't you know this? I thought the Germans had a proper educational 
system.


> Another powerful concept is called 'cooperation', which we find all over 
> the place.
> 
> E.g. dogs just love to do something with and/or for their human 
> counterpart.

Yeah, so?


> >> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals,
> >> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.
> >
> > What were Darwin's "political goals"? And what does Darwin have to do
> > with a vile practice that was invented years after he died?
> 
> 
> His political goals are rather unimportant. But someone paid him and his 
> voyage, who eventually had political goals.

Provide evidence for these "political goals".


Your educational system should sue you for implying that it's 
incompetent.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#392777

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-09-17 19:42 -0500
Message-ID<4qlrtbtefm6jecslqd5c0maig2505eij9f@4ax.com>
In reply to#392769
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 16:44:38 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>In article <e45225Ft4sjU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 17.09.2016 13:14, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>> 
>> >>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
>> >>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
>> >>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
>> >>> supernatural beings.
>> >>
>> >> Darwin was an evil British idiot.
>> >
>> > How was he "evil"?
>> >
>> >
>> >> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him
>> >> personally to various 'bad guys'.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>> > What is this line?
>> 
>> There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'.

So?

He defended Darwin's ideas.

What they actually wore, not what liars like this one pretend.

>> He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to 
>> Count Arthur de Gobineau.

It was a science club.

And what was their connection with de Gobineau?

>>  From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite 
>> influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward 
>> Chamberlain.

So?

>> Chamberlain was the son in law of Richard Wagner. He wrote a lot of 
>> racist Nazi-pamphlet, to which a Lord Redescale wrote the forwards.

So?
 
>> This guy was the owner of a gold-mine in the Canadian town 'Swastika', 
>> which had as a logo the real Nazi-swastika (in 1912).

So? Was it actually a Nazi swastika or one of the many sun-symbols
like the traditional Hindu one? 

Before the Nazis adopted it, it was a good luck symbol in Western
Europe, originating as the Hindu svastika which was originally a sun
symbol but was also (and still is) a good luck symbol that you see at
Indian weddings.

The town was named for the Swastika mine.

>> He was a friend of Richard Wagner. His granddaughter was Unity Midfort 
>> and that was Hitler's girlfriend. Another granddaughter was Lady Diana 
>> Guiness, who married the leader of the BuF (Sir Oswald Mosley).

So what?
 
>> Lord Redescale was assumed to be the illegitimate father of Clementine 
>> Hozier, which was the wife of Winston Churchill.

And?
 
>> Thomas Huxley had a grandson, who was the leader of 'Eugenics' (Julian 
>> Huxley).

Gross distortion to the point of lying.

>> Julian Huxley was also a spy 

Lie.

>                                                   and founder of UNESCO.
>> 
>> His brother Aldous was member of the so called apostles of Cambridge, 
>> (which was the British version of 'Skull and Bones'). There he met 
>> Ludwig Wittgenstein and Bertrand Russel.

So?

>> Russel was the head of the 'Fabians' and promoter of (national-) Socialism.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

The Fabians are a middle class, intellectual socialist society. They
were never Marxist, and they were certainly not Nazis.

>> The other brother of Julian Huxley was Noel Trevenen Huxley. And for 
>> some reason I assume, this was the British spy commonly known as 'Hitler'.

What a fucking moron/

>And how does ANY of this indict Darwin? 

None of it does.

He's just another asshole being a rectal orifice for the sake of being
an anal sphinctre.

>> > You do know that a person is not responsible for evil people
>> > misinterpreting and corrupting his work?
>> 
>> This depends a little on the circumstances.

Darwin was responsible for none of the things that bigoted, lying
religious loonies accuse him of.

>> If you take part in a plot, than you are also responsible.

What  "plot" was the pathological liar pretending Darwin was part of?
 
>> Darwin's books seem to me like being propaganda in the sense of Eugenics 
>> and the Fabians. And both are apparently part of something sinister 
>> called 'New World Order'.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>And now you've proven yourself an irredeemable idiot.

And a deliberately nasty, button-pushing liar.

>> >> But Darwin was extremely wrong in various aspects of his theory. For
>> >> instance he assumed competition as main principle of nature.

He CONCLUDED it - tat's what the struggle for survival known as
natural selection, is.

>> > So what? We've moved 150 years past what Darwin could learn with the
>> > technology of his day. His major value nowadays is as the urDaddy of the
>> > science of evolution.
>> 
>> 
>> Even if the main principle might be correct, his intention was not true 
>> science, but some kind of attack on religions.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

He was sufficiently religious to study for the ministry at Cambridge,
even if he dropped out to go on the voyage of the Beagle.

He lost his faith when he could not reconcile the benevolent, loving
god of his youth, with the life or death, eat or be eaten struggle for
survival that was nature in the raw.

And he held off publishing Origin until 1859 to avoid upsetting the
religious.

>How was it that? He was a loyal member of the COE until his daughter 
>died.

No. He was already an agnostic when he proposed to his wife - that was
the last straw,

>> To make his version of evolution at least somehow plausible, he had to 
>> make the evolution of species MUCH faster than it really is.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>So what? Why are you having so much problem understanding how 
>much our knowledge has increased in the last 150 years?

He's just a piggy-ignorant, lying troll.

>> He had an 'error factor' of more than 10,000 , by which the evolution 
>> took longer than he thought.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.
 
>> This was needed, to justify such evil agenda (as Eugenics) and what I 
>> assume to be intentional.

What a fucking moron. A deliberately button-pushing liar as well as an
idiot.

>And ever loonier. Provide evidence that Darwin ever espoused eugenics.

He didn't.

>> >> Only this is not true, since he completely ignored cooperation between a
>> >> variety of species.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>> > Yeah, so what?
>> 
>> Well, 'competition between the individuals/races/species' was the 
>> principle what he assumed top be the driving mechanism in all life.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>So what?
>
>>  From this idea stems actually the term 'Darwinism' or 'survival of the 
>> fittest'.

There is no such thing as "Darwinism" - that is a deliberate canard by
creationists to pretend that well understood science is merely an
ideology.

>Which, of course, is a distortion of what Darwin said.

All "survival of the fittest" means is that those who survive to pass
on whatever caused them to survive, to subsequent generations, pass it
on - and those which don't, don't.

>> Only: this is not true and the fittest do not always survive.

So what?

>Of course not. It's about the survival of species, not of individuals. 
>Why don't you know this? I thought the Germans had a proper educational 
>system.

Because he's a fucking moron.

>> Another powerful concept is called 'cooperation', which we find all over 
>> the place.

And?

That led to domestication and selection by Man.
 
>> E.g. dogs just love to do something with and/or for their human 
>> counterpart.

Because Man selected them for it.

>Yeah, so?

It;s just being deliberately stupid.

>> >> But more questionable than scientific errors were his political goals,
>> >> since in the line of succession we find 'Eugenics'.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>> > What were Darwin's "political goals"? And what does Darwin have to do
>> > with a vile practice that was invented years after he died?
>> 
>> 
>> His political goals are rather unimportant. But someone paid him and his 
>> voyage, who eventually had political goals.

Liar,

His family was wealthy enough for to pay for his part in the voyage,
even though they weren't rich. He was one of the Wedgwoods - his
grandfather was the founder of the famous quality pottery
manufacturing company.

>Provide evidence for these "political goals".

It can't.

>Your educational system should sue you for implying that it's 
>incompetent.

Germany has an excellent public education system so he must have gone
to some fundamentalist religious school instead.

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#392794

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-18 06:50 +0200
Message-ID<e46kpjFacr1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#392777
Am 18.09.2016 02:42, schrieb Christopher A. Lee:

>>>>>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
>>>>>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
>>>>>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
>>>>>> supernatural beings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Darwin was an evil British idiot.
>>>>
>>>> How was he "evil"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him
>>>>> personally to various 'bad guys'.
>
> What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.
>
>>>> What is this line?
>>>
>>> There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'.
>
> So?
>
> He defended Darwin's ideas.
>
> What they actually wore, not what liars like this one pretend.
>
>>> He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to
>>> Count Arthur de Gobineau.
>
> It was a science club.
>
> And what was their connection with de Gobineau?
>
>>>    From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite
>>> influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward
>>> Chamberlain.
>

Maybe you should open a book about the history of the 20th century.

And certainly you'll find an article or two about Germany.

And certainly you will read about the WWs one and two.

The 2nd of these wars was caused by a political party called 'NSDAP' in 
Germany.

This party and their members are commonly called 'Nazis'.

NSDAP means in English 'National Socialist Workers Party of Germany'.

They had occult roots, which stem from theosophy of Helena Blavatski, 
which had led to the 'Thule society'.

Another source was socialism and that to the foundations of 'DAP' 
(Deutsche Arbeiter Partei - German Workers Party).

Than we find elitism in form of occult orders like the 'SS'.

Other roots stem from the support by large corporations, like e.g. the 
Ford Motor Company.

 From the theoretical side we had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.

The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself 
based his ideas on Darwin.

And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds 
and the bankers.

Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.

And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in 
the 20th.

But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger 
puzzle.

It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators 
from further destruction.

The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown 
systems are reinvented from what is known about them.

If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system 
can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find 
out, who did what in these evil plans.


TH

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#392798

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-17 23:24 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-FAFAEE.23242217092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#392794
In article <e46kpjFacr1U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 18.09.2016 02:42, schrieb Christopher A. Lee:
> 
> >>>>>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals,
> >>>>>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god
> >>>>>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no
> >>>>>> supernatural beings.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Darwin was an evil British idiot.
> >>>>
> >>>> How was he "evil"?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him
> >>>>> personally to various 'bad guys'.
> >
> > What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.
> >
> >>>> What is this line?
> >>>
> >>> There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'.
> >
> > So?
> >
> > He defended Darwin's ideas.
> >
> > What they actually wore, not what liars like this one pretend.
> >
> >>> He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to
> >>> Count Arthur de Gobineau.
> >
> > It was a science club.
> >
> > And what was their connection with de Gobineau?
> >
> >>>    From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite
> >>> influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward
> >>> Chamberlain.
> >
> 
> Maybe you should open a book about the history of the 20th century.
> 
> And certainly you'll find an article or two about Germany.
> 
> And certainly you will read about the WWs one and two.
> 
> The 2nd of these wars was caused by a political party called 'NSDAP' in 
> Germany.
> 
> This party and their members are commonly called 'Nazis'.
> 
> NSDAP means in English 'National Socialist Workers Party of Germany'.
> 
> They had occult roots, which stem from theosophy of Helena Blavatski, 
> which had led to the 'Thule society'.
> 
> Another source was socialism and that to the foundations of 'DAP' 
> (Deutsche Arbeiter Partei - German Workers Party).
> 
> Than we find elitism in form of occult orders like the 'SS'.
> 
> Other roots stem from the support by large corporations, like e.g. the 
> Ford Motor Company.
> 
>  From the theoretical side we had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
> 
> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself 
> based his ideas on Darwin.
> 
> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds 
> and the bankers.
> 
> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
> 
> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in 
> the 20th.
> 
> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger 
> puzzle.
> 
> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators 
> from further destruction.
> 
> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown 
> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
> 
> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system 
> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find 
> out, who did what in these evil plans.



And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any 
of this had anything to do with Darwin.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#392840

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-18 20:14 +0200
Message-ID<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#392798
Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:

>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>>
>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>>
>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>> and the bankers.
>>
>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>>
>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>> the 20th.
>>
>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>> puzzle.
>>
>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>> from further destruction.
>>
>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>>
>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>
>
>
> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>

Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.

But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political 
importance as Naziism.

TH

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#392842

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-18 15:06 -0400
Message-ID<tbpttb1onon70nfeu9v0p8ld2igju23asi@4ax.com>
In reply to#392840
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
alt.atheism with message-id <e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:

>Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>
>>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>>>
>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>>>
>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>>> and the bankers.
>>>
>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>>>
>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>>> the 20th.
>>>
>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>>> puzzle.
>>>
>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>>> from further destruction.
>>>
>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>>>
>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>>
>>
>>
>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>>
>
>Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>
>But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political 
>importance as Naziism.
>
>TH

Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
psychopaths.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#394336

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-30 06:33 +0200
Message-ID<e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#392842
Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>  in
> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net>  wrote:
>
>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>>
>>>>  From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>>>>
>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>>>>
>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>>>> and the bankers.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>>>>
>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>>>> the 20th.
>>>>
>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>>>> puzzle.
>>>>
>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>>>> from further destruction.
>>>>
>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>>>>
>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>>
>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>> importance as Naziism.
>>
>> TH
>
> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
> psychopaths.
>

Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).

The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.

The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.

Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.

Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret 
society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.

This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of 
the same age as Hitler and also gay.

Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.

Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.

So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.

The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He 
got a false beard and the hair painted.

He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who 
was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at 
Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)

The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'), 
grandfather of the Huxley brothers.

The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the 
real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather 
of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).

Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the 
'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My 
Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also 
paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.

Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was 
a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard 
Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of 
her kids.

And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite 
similar to Winifried's friend.

Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This 
had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life), 
what is actually a death symbol.

Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g. 
the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.

There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word 
'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.

In German you would say 'Sammellager'.

'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word 
'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think 
hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.

To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the 
linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the 
activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar 
to 'picking things up' (sammeln).

In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to 
be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the 
British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute 
for Human Relations').

Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the 
Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'), 
since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which 
could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.

The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism 
side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British 
aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.

It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been 
Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.

(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at 
Tavistock Square.)

But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in 
British aristocracy.

So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?

Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And 
that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite', 
who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed 
'capitalists'.

Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as 
long as Briton stays a monarchy.


TH

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#394338

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-29 23:27 -0700
Message-ID<57EE05BC.22C2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394336
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>  in
> > alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net>  wrote:
> >
> >> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> >>
> >>>>  From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
> >>>>
> >>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
> >>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
> >>>>
> >>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
> >>>> and the bankers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
> >>>>
> >>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
> >>>> the 20th.
> >>>>
> >>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
> >>>> puzzle.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
> >>>> from further destruction.
> >>>>
> >>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
> >>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
> >>>>
> >>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
> >>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
> >>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
> >>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
> >>
> >> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
> >> importance as Naziism.
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> > Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
> > psychopaths.
> >
> 
> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
> 
> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
> 
> The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
> 
> Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
> 
> Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
> society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
> 
> This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
> the same age as Hitler and also gay.
> 
> Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
> 
> Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
> 
> So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
> 
> The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
> got a false beard and the hair painted.
> 
> He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
> was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
> Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
> 
> The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
> grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
> 
> The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
> real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
> of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
> 
> Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
> 'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
> Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
> paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
> 
> Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
> a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
> Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
> her kids.
> 
> And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
> similar to Winifried's friend.
> 
> Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
> had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
> what is actually a death symbol.
> 
> Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
> the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
> 
> There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
> 'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
> 
> In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
> 
> 'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
> 'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
> hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
> 
> To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
> linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
> activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
> to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
> 
> In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
> be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
> British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
> for Human Relations').
> 
> Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
> Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
> since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
> could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
> 
> The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
> side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
> aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
> 
> It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
> Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
> 
> (Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
> Tavistock Square.)
> 
> But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
> British aristocracy.
> 
> So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
> 
> Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
> that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
> who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
> 'capitalists'.
> 
> Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
> long as Briton stays a monarchy.
> 
> TH




i don't know too much about Germany history..
i'm an American...
they don't talk too much about that period..

but i do remember
there was a east Berlin and
west Berlin.

i think the east might have something to do with commies...

the people of Germany fought the commies because:

"A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism." karl marx


So, anybody who is on the commie side had to be killed.

Aldolf Hitler dies and you got the Wall.

He was just tryin to keep the commies away..


'the spectre of communism'

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#394345

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-30 02:59 -0400
Message-ID<s83subtlqsgbpl1stt5lvhauoev7vpj0dv@4ax.com>
In reply to#394338
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 23:27:08 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<57EE05BC.22C2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Thomas Heger wrote:
>> 
>> Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
>> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>  in
>> > alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net>  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>> >>
>> >>>>  From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>> >>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>> >>>> and the bankers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>> >>>> the 20th.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>> >>>> puzzle.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>> >>>> from further destruction.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>> >>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>> >>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>> >>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>> >>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>> >>
>> >> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>> >> importance as Naziism.
>> >>
>> >> TH
>> >
>> > Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>> > psychopaths.
>> >
>> 
>> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>> 
>> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>> 
>> The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
>> 
>> Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
>> 
>> Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
>> society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>> 
>> This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
>> the same age as Hitler and also gay.
>> 
>> Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
>> 
>> Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
>> 
>> So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
>> 
>> The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
>> got a false beard and the hair painted.
>> 
>> He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
>> was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
>> Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
>> 
>> The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
>> grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
>> 
>> The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
>> real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
>> of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
>> 
>> Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
>> 'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
>> Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
>> paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
>> 
>> Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
>> a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
>> Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
>> her kids.
>> 
>> And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
>> similar to Winifried's friend.
>> 
>> Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
>> had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
>> what is actually a death symbol.
>> 
>> Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
>> the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
>> 
>> There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
>> 'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
>> 
>> In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
>> 
>> 'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
>> 'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
>> hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
>> 
>> To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
>> linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
>> activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
>> to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
>> 
>> In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
>> be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
>> British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
>> for Human Relations').
>> 
>> Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
>> Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
>> since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
>> could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
>> 
>> The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
>> side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
>> aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
>> 
>> It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
>> Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
>> 
>> (Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
>> Tavistock Square.)
>> 
>> But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
>> British aristocracy.
>> 
>> So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
>> 
>> Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
>> that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
>> who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
>> 'capitalists'.
>> 
>> Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
>> long as Briton stays a monarchy.
>> 
>> TH
>
>
>
>
>i don't know too much about Germany history..
>i'm an American...
>they don't talk too much about that period..
>
>but i do remember
>there was a east Berlin and
>west Berlin.
>
>i think the east might have something to do with commies...
>
>the people of Germany fought the commies because:
>
>"A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism." karl marx
>
>
>So, anybody who is on the commie side had to be killed.
>
>Aldolf Hitler dies and you got the Wall.
>
>He was just tryin to keep the commies away..
>
>
>'the spectre of communism'

I see you are off your meds too.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#394420

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-30 11:48 -0700
Message-ID<57EEB361.441E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394338
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> > Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
> > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>  in
> > > alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net>  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> > >>
> > >>>>  From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
> > >>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
> > >>>> and the bankers.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
> > >>>> the 20th.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
> > >>>> puzzle.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
> > >>>> from further destruction.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
> > >>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
> > >>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
> > >>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
> > >>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
> > >>
> > >> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
> > >> importance as Naziism.
> > >>
> > >> TH
> > >
> > > Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
> > > psychopaths.
> > >
> >
> > Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
> >
> > The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
> >
> > The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
> >
> > Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
> >
> > Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
> > society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
> >
> > This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
> > the same age as Hitler and also gay.
> >
> > Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
> >
> > Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
> >
> > So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
> >
> > The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
> > got a false beard and the hair painted.
> >
> > He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
> > was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
> > Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
> >
> > The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
> > grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
> >
> > The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
> > real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
> > of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
> >
> > Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
> > 'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
> > Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
> > paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
> >
> > Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
> > a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
> > Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
> > her kids.
> >
> > And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
> > similar to Winifried's friend.
> >
> > Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
> > had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
> > what is actually a death symbol.
> >
> > Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
> > the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
> >
> > There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
> > 'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
> >
> > In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
> >
> > 'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
> > 'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
> > hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
> >
> > To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
> > linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
> > activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
> > to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
> >
> > In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
> > be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
> > British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
> > for Human Relations').
> >
> > Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
> > Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
> > since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
> > could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
> >
> > The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
> > side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
> > aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
> >
> > It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
> > Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
> >
> > (Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
> > Tavistock Square.)
> >
> > But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
> > British aristocracy.
> >
> > So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
> >
> > Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
> > that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
> > who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
> > 'capitalists'.
> >
> > Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
> > long as Briton stays a monarchy.
> >
> > TH
> 
> i don't know too much about Germany history..
> i'm an American...
> they don't talk too much about that period..
> 
> but i do remember
> there was a east Berlin and
> west Berlin.
> 
> i think the east might have something to do with commies...
> 
> the people of Germany fought the commies because:
> 
> "A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism." karl marx
> 
> So, anybody who is on the commie side had to be killed.
> 
> Aldolf Hitler dies and you got the Wall.
> 
> He was just tryin to keep the commies away..
> 
> 'the spectre of communism'


The truth is...
and when I say "The Truth is"
it means the truth no one has ever told you
the truth is..
the reason they killed all the jewish people was because
they were all...communist.

Auschwitz was created to kill commies. It was in commie terroritory. All
those camps were in commie terriotity. 

It was a message to Russia..."Look at what we are doing to yous commies."



Here is another Truth...
Do you know why Israel kills babies in Palestine all the time??
Answer: They are afraid Jesus might come back in Palestine again.

The 'word' is out in Israel...kill Jesus Christ the second he tries to come back.
And the only way to do that is to kill all the babies in Palestine.

The first thing Israel does is kill all the Christians in Palestine.

For some reason that I don't understand...Israel thinks Jesus will return in
Palestine.

So, the order is..to kill all the babies in Palestine. 

A game of Whack-A-Mole if you ask me.


In Israel, there is a contract out on Jesus Christ...if you see him, shoot him.


I heard Jesus Christ used to hang out in Palestine a lot...I'm not sure why.


But He is not coming back in Brooklyn...

or Miami florida.

I don't know where Jesus was born at, but I bet they got Israeli soldiers there with
machine guns ready to kill any baby born there. 

If you're a woman living in Palestine, ...don't name your child Mary or Jesus.


There is a contract out on both of yous....

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#394497

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-01 10:10 -0700
Message-ID<57EFEDF7.7775@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394420
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> Here is another Truth...
> Do you know why Israel kills babies in Palestine all the time??
> Answer: They are afraid Jesus might come back in Palestine again.
> 
> The 'word' is out in Israel...kill Jesus Christ the second he tries to come back.
> And the only way to do that is to kill all the babies in Palestine.
> 
> The first thing Israel does is kill all the Christians in Palestine.
> 
> For some reason that I don't understand...Israel thinks Jesus will return in
> Palestine.
> 
> So, the order is..to kill all the babies in Palestine.
> 
> A game of Whack-A-Mole if you ask me.
> 
> In Israel, there is a contract out on Jesus Christ...if you see him, shoot him.
> 
> I heard Jesus Christ used to hang out in Palestine a lot...I'm not sure why.
> 
> But He is not coming back in Brooklyn...
> 
> or Miami florida.
> 
> I don't know where Jesus was born at, but I bet they got Israeli soldiers there with
> machine guns ready to kill any baby born there.
> 
> If you're a woman living in Palestine, ...don't name your child Mary or Jesus.
> 
> There is a contract out on both of yous....


It appears that some people believe Jesus Christ was born in Jerusalem.



"U.S. policy has long refrained from recognizing any nation’s sovereignty over Jerusalem."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article105236776.html


"A 2015 Supreme Court decision reaffirmed U.S. practice that forbids Americans born in Jerusalem to list Israel as their country of birth on passports."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article105236776.html

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#394343

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-30 02:54 -0400
Message-ID<1u2subhh498ks283bdpe75rf896tuaq4r5@4ax.com>
In reply to#394336
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:33:29 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
alt.atheism with message-id <e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:

>Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>  in
>> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>>>
>>>>>  From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>>>>>
>>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>>>>> and the bankers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>>>>>
>>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>>>>> the 20th.
>>>>>
>>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>>>>> puzzle.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>>>>> from further destruction.
>>>>>
>>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>>>>>
>>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>>>
>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>>> importance as Naziism.
>>>
>>> TH
>>
>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>> psychopaths.
>>
>
>Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>
>The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.

No, it isn't.

>
>The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
>
>Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
>
>Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret 
>society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>
>This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of 
>the same age as Hitler and also gay.
>
>Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
>
>Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
>
>So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
>
>The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He 
>got a false beard and the hair painted.
>
>He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who 
>was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at 
>Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
>
>The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'), 
>grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
>
>The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the 
>real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather 
>of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
>
>Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the 
>'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My 
>Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also 
>paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
>
>Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was 
>a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard 
>Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of 
>her kids.
>
>And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite 
>similar to Winifried's friend.
>
>Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This 
>had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life), 
>what is actually a death symbol.
>
>Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g. 
>the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
>
>There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word 
>'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
>
>In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
>
>'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word 
>'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think 
>hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
>
>To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the 
>linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the 
>activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar 
>to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
>
>In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to 
>be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the 
>British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute 
>for Human Relations').
>
>Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the 
>Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'), 
>since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which 
>could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
>
>The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism 
>side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British 
>aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
>
>It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been 
>Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
>
>(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at 
>Tavistock Square.)
>
>But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in 
>British aristocracy.
>
>So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
>
>Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And 
>that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite', 
>who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed 
>'capitalists'.
>
>Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as 
>long as Briton stays a monarchy.
>
>
>TH
>

You find one under every rock don't you?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#394346

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-09-30 02:06 -0500
Message-ID<ij3subh2j85rs0rgnpjgbtifmefog3rt7m@4ax.com>
In reply to#394343
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 02:54:49 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:33:29 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
>alt.atheism with message-id <e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>
>>Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
>>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>  in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>>>>
>>>>>>  From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>>>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>>>>>> and the bankers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>>>>>> the 20th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>>>>>> puzzle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>>>>>> from further destruction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>>>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>>>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>>>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>>>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>>>>
>>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>>>> importance as Naziism.
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>>> psychopaths.
>>>
>>
>>Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>>
>>The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>
>No, it isn't.
>
>>
>>The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
>>
>>Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
>>
>>Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret 
>>society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>>
>>This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of 
>>the same age as Hitler and also gay.
>>
>>Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
>>
>>Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
>>
>>So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
>>
>>The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He 
>>got a false beard and the hair painted.
>>
>>He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who 
>>was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at 
>>Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
>>
>>The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'), 
>>grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
>>
>>The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the 
>>real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather 
>>of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
>>
>>Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the 
>>'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My 
>>Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also 
>>paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
>>
>>Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was 
>>a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard 
>>Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of 
>>her kids.
>>
>>And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite 
>>similar to Winifried's friend.
>>
>>Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This 
>>had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life), 
>>what is actually a death symbol.
>>
>>Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g. 
>>the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
>>
>>There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word 
>>'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
>>
>>In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
>>
>>'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word 
>>'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think 
>>hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
>>
>>To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the 
>>linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the 
>>activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar 
>>to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
>>
>>In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to 
>>be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the 
>>British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute 
>>for Human Relations').
>>
>>Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the 
>>Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'), 
>>since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which 
>>could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
>>
>>The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism 
>>side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British 
>>aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
>>
>>It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been 
>>Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
>>
>>(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at 
>>Tavistock Square.)
>>
>>But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in 
>>British aristocracy.
>>
>>So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
>>
>>Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And 
>>that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite', 
>>who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed 
>>'capitalists'.
>>
>>Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as 
>>long as Briton stays a monarchy.
>>
>>
>>TH
>>
>
>You find one under every rock don't you?

He's insane.

And none of his lies are relevant in any of the groups where he posted
them.

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#394416

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-30 11:17 -0700
Message-ID<57EEAC24.54AF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394346
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 02:54:49 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:33:29 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
> >alt.atheism with message-id <e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
> >>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>  in
> >>> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>  From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
> >>>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
> >>>>>> and the bankers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
> >>>>>> the 20th.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
> >>>>>> puzzle.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
> >>>>>> from further destruction.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
> >>>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
> >>>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
> >>>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
> >>>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
> >>>>
> >>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
> >>>> importance as Naziism.
> >>>>
> >>>> TH
> >>>
> >>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
> >>> psychopaths.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
> >>
> >>The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
> >
> >No, it isn't.
> >
> >>
> >>The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
> >>
> >>Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
> >>
> >>Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
> >>society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
> >>
> >>This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
> >>the same age as Hitler and also gay.
> >>
> >>Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
> >>
> >>Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
> >>
> >>So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
> >>
> >>The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
> >>got a false beard and the hair painted.
> >>
> >>He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
> >>was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
> >>Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
> >>
> >>The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
> >>grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
> >>
> >>The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
> >>real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
> >>of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
> >>
> >>Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
> >>'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
> >>Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
> >>paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
> >>
> >>Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
> >>a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
> >>Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
> >>her kids.
> >>
> >>And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
> >>similar to Winifried's friend.
> >>
> >>Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
> >>had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
> >>what is actually a death symbol.
> >>
> >>Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
> >>the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
> >>
> >>There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
> >>'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
> >>
> >>In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
> >>
> >>'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
> >>'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
> >>hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
> >>
> >>To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
> >>linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
> >>activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
> >>to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
> >>
> >>In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
> >>be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
> >>British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
> >>for Human Relations').
> >>
> >>Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
> >>Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
> >>since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
> >>could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
> >>
> >>The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
> >>side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
> >>aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
> >>
> >>It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
> >>Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
> >>
> >>(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
> >>Tavistock Square.)
> >>
> >>But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
> >>British aristocracy.
> >>
> >>So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
> >>
> >>Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
> >>that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
> >>who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
> >>'capitalists'.
> >>
> >>Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
> >>long as Briton stays a monarchy.
> >>
> >>
> >>TH
> >>
> >
> >You find one under every rock don't you?
> 
> He's insane.
> 
> And none of his lies are relevant in any of the groups where he posted
> them.



sez the witch...i bet you got a wart on your nose...i mean big nose..i
mean a wart on your big nose..i mean a big wart on your nose..i mean

pants on fire too.

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#394423

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-09-30 14:07 -0500
Message-ID<3udtub56jq3j58ta7sfif63vhqbs21a24r@4ax.com>
In reply to#394416
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:17:08 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 02:54:49 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:33:29 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
>> >alt.atheism with message-id <e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
>> >>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>  in
>> >>> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>  From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>> >>>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>> >>>>>> and the bankers.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>> >>>>>> the 20th.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>> >>>>>> puzzle.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>> >>>>>> from further destruction.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>> >>>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>> >>>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>> >>>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>> >>>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>> >>>> importance as Naziism.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> TH
>> >>>
>> >>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>> >>> psychopaths.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>> >>
>> >>The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>> >
>> >No, it isn't.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
>> >>
>> >>Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
>> >>
>> >>Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
>> >>society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>> >>
>> >>This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
>> >>the same age as Hitler and also gay.
>> >>
>> >>Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
>> >>
>> >>Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
>> >>
>> >>So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
>> >>
>> >>The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
>> >>got a false beard and the hair painted.
>> >>
>> >>He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
>> >>was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
>> >>Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
>> >>
>> >>The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
>> >>grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
>> >>
>> >>The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
>> >>real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
>> >>of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
>> >>
>> >>Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
>> >>'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
>> >>Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
>> >>paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
>> >>
>> >>Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
>> >>a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
>> >>Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
>> >>her kids.
>> >>
>> >>And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
>> >>similar to Winifried's friend.
>> >>
>> >>Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
>> >>had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
>> >>what is actually a death symbol.
>> >>
>> >>Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
>> >>the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
>> >>
>> >>There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
>> >>'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
>> >>
>> >>In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
>> >>
>> >>'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
>> >>'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
>> >>hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
>> >>
>> >>To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
>> >>linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
>> >>activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
>> >>to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
>> >>
>> >>In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
>> >>be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
>> >>British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
>> >>for Human Relations').
>> >>
>> >>Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
>> >>Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
>> >>since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
>> >>could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
>> >>
>> >>The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
>> >>side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
>> >>aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
>> >>
>> >>It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
>> >>Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
>> >>
>> >>(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
>> >>Tavistock Square.)
>> >>
>> >>But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
>> >>British aristocracy.
>> >>
>> >>So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
>> >>
>> >>Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
>> >>that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
>> >>who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
>> >>'capitalists'.
>> >>
>> >>Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
>> >>long as Briton stays a monarchy.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>TH
>> >>
>> >
>> >You find one under every rock don't you?
>> 
>> He's insane.
>> 
>> And none of his lies are relevant in any of the groups where he posted
>> them.
>
>
>
>sez the witch...i bet you got a wart on your nose...i mean big nose..i
>mean a wart on your big nose..i mean a big wart on your nose..i mean
>
>pants on fire too.

And you're just as mentally ill.

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#394456

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-30 23:11 -0400
Message-ID<t9auub9j79q9k2j3849ltshkt8ljul2fno@4ax.com>
In reply to#394416
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:17:08 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<57EEAC24.54AF@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>> He's insane.
>> 
>> And none of his lies are relevant in any of the groups where he posted
>> them.
>
>
>
>sez the witch...i bet you got a wart on your nose...i mean big nose..i
>mean a wart on your big nose..i mean a big wart on your nose..i mean
>
>pants on fire too.

Quite the intellectual isn't he?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#394458

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-10-01 08:52 +0200
Message-ID<e594ppFj81dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#394343
Am 30.09.2016 08:54, schrieb Attila <:

>>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>>>> importance as Naziism.
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>>> psychopaths.
>>>
>>
>> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>>
>> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>
> No, it isn't.

Well, actually you are correct.

'Nazi' is an abbreviation for 'National Socialist'.

This stems from German and was meant as opposition to 'Sozi'.

'Sozi' stems from 'Sozialdemokrat' (social democrat).

SPD (Sozis) had fought their enemies (Nazis) in the streets of Berlin in 
the 1920th.

Finally the Nazis had won (with a little help from Wall Street).

Anyhow..

The Nazi-party had the real Name 'Nationalsozialistische Arbeiter Partei 
Deutschland' (national-socialist workers party of Germany).

They were actually not very nationalistic, but 'race-chauvinistic'.

The idea of 'Aryans' came from French Count August de Gobineau, who 
wrote a race-chauvinistic manifesto.

This was supported by the British author Houston Steward Chamberlain, 
son in Law of an Italian baroness.

Till then there were no Germans involved, till Hitler came (Austrian) 
and Henry Ford (author of 'The International Jew').

Hitler's girlfriend was English again (Unity Midfort).

So these guys were everything else but German nationalists.

They were elitists, racists and internationalists.

Their agenda was nothing in support of the country Germany or the 
workers there. These were in both cases just 'cannon fodder'.

And definitely they were not workers.

What they had in mind was 'collectivism' (=Socialism).

The idea behind collectivism is, that the state could try to create a 
'super-human', if all the people unite into one single entity, which 
thinks and acts like one being (the SUPERMAN).

This did work somehow, but caused unwanted effects (like genocide, war, 
theft of colossal proportions, invasions and a few other).

So collectivism did not work, nor did actually racism.

'Racism'  is in fact based on Darwin's flawed concept of evolution, 
because the 'cleaners of the race' (Eugenics) tried to enhance the power 
of the collective, by eliminating unwanted members of the society.

They believed, that races emerge in a few centuries and therefore 
killing sick people would make the rest fitter in case of reproduction.

This is somehow possible, but only if you believe in Lamarkism, which 
states, that acquired features could be inherited.

But Darwin said, this is not possible. So only the genes decide, who 
someone is or could become (what is wrong!). So killing unfit people 
would strengthen the 'race'.

Only this is evil blunder from beginning to end.


TH

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