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  1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-08-20 12:13 -0700
    1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-21 07:03 -0700
      Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-08-21 09:56 -0700
        Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-21 20:00 -0700
        Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-21 23:57 -0700
    Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-22 15:22 +1000
      Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 09:41 -0700
        Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-23 13:17 +1000
          Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-22 23:15 -0700
            Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-23 07:42 -0700
          Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 07:43 -0700
            Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-23 08:05 -0700
              Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-23 08:14 -0700
              Re: 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-23 08:18 -0700
    1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2 "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-28 11:46 -0700

#390449 — 1 second Defined by gravity rev. 2

1 second = (mak/heG)*(4 pi)*7.00000*10^-37) cubic meters

The second is defined by basic factors from old science, plus a new factor from the Gravity Volume Theory, p

p = 7.000 * 10^-37 meter^3 / second

p is the proton's internal radial linear momentum from graviticspansion

p = V / tau

where V is proton Volume and tau is a time constant near 5ns.

The formula for 1 second uses the standard symbols for these constants: Planck h, Newton G, Coulomb k, proton mass m, Bohr radius a, proton charge e.

1 second = (mak/heG)*(4 pi)*7*10^-37 meter^3 

mantissas = 0.988321 Seconds =

1.673800*5.291770*8.987600*4*3.141593*7.000000 / (6.626070*1.602177*6.674083) 

 1 second -1.14%  = (mak/heG)*(4 pi)*7*10^-37 meter^3 

Conclusion

 (mak/heG)*(4 pi)*7*10^-37 meter^3 = 0.988321 seconds

The second has been defined in terms of gravity and the standard physical constants, h, G, k, etc. The 7*10^-37 cubic meters is how much space is drained by each baryon in a star while growing time of one second from the star as a radial expansion of the universe at speed c. The derivation of  this formula is on my page for the periodic table of units of measure:

http://fcgravity.blogspot.com/p/first-law-of-difffusion-of-herenowium.html#essay0

Alan Folmsbee, August 20, 2016, Maui. Call ahead before visiting

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#390495

Gravity Volume Theory
Protons and neutrons shrink space and grow time. This is gravity.

Möbius transformation = ISOMETRIES 

ISOMETRIES = Apollonian gasket = (shrink space * grow time) = 1^2

(SQUARE ROOT OF THREE)/TWO =0.866

3^0.5/2 *c = time dilation of 2

1 / (((3^0.5) / 2)^2) = 1.33333333333

Four Thirds. (XYZT)/(XYZ) = T

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_gasket 

http://i59.tinypic.com/35hlj05.jpg 

Isometric Perpendicularity to the orthogonal surface 
http://i68.tinypic.com/2lcxw7t.jpg 


The three generating circles, and hence the entire construction, are determined by the location of the three points where they are tangent to one another. Since there is a Möbius transformation which maps any three given points in the plane to any other three points, and since Möbius transformations preserve circles, then there is a Möbius transformation which maps any two Apollonian gaskets to one another. 

Möbius transformations are also isometries of the hyperbolic plane, so in hyperbolic geometry all Apollonian gaskets are congruent. In a sense, there is therefore only one Apollonian gasket, up to (hyperbolic) isometry. 

The Apollonian gasket is the limit set of a group of Möbius transformations known as a Kleinian group. 

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#390500

On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 4:03:14 AM UTC-10, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> Gravity Volume Theory
> Protons and neutrons shrink space and grow time. This is gravity.
> 
> Möbius transformation = ISOMETRIES 
> 
> ISOMETRIES = Apollonian gasket = (shrink space * grow time) = 1^2
> 
> (SQUARE ROOT OF THREE)/TWO =0.866
> 
> 3^0.5/2 *c = time dilation of 2
> 
> 1 / (((3^0.5) / 2)^2) = 1.33333333333
> 
> Four Thirds. (XYZT)/(XYZ) = T
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_gasket 
> 
> http://i59.tinypic.com/35hlj05.jpg 
> 
> Isometric Perpendicularity to the orthogonal surface 
> http://i68.tinypic.com/2lcxw7t.jpg 
> 
> 
> The three generating circles, and hence the entire construction, are determined by the location of the three points where they are tangent to one another. Since there is a Möbius transformation which maps any three given points in the plane to any other three points, and since Möbius transformations preserve circles, then there is a Möbius transformation which maps any two Apollonian gaskets to one another. 
> 
> Möbius transformations are also isometries of the hyperbolic plane, so in hyperbolic geometry all Apollonian gaskets are congruent. In a sense, there is therefore only one Apollonian gasket, up to (hyperbolic) isometry. 
> 
> The Apollonian gasket is the limit set of a group of Möbius transformations known as a Kleinian group.

On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 4:03:14 AM UTC-10, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:


> Gravity... transformation...  to the orthogonal surface...of the three points where they are... the plane to any other three points, and  gaskets to one another. 

That is a succinct embellishment of my point:

1 second = W cubic meters

where W =  (mak/heG)*(4 pi)*7.00000*10^-37)

m = proton mass

a = Bohr radius

k = Coulomb constant

h = Planck's

e = proton charge

G = Newton's constant

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

1 second = W cubic meters

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#390543

Isometric Perpendicularity to the orthogonal surface 

http://i68.tinypic.com/2lcxw7t.jpg 


The Apollonian gasket is the limit set of a group of Möbius transformations known as a Kleinian group.

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#390562

W dniu niedziela, 21 sierpnia 2016 18:56:08 UTC+2 użytkownik Alan Folmsbee napisał:

> 1 second = W cubic meters

But you do realize, that according to 
The Shit of Great Guru, "cube" is
just a common sense prejudice?

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#390557

On 21/08/2016 5:13 AM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>
> The second has been defined in terms of gravity and the standard
> physical constants, h, G, k, etc. The 7*10^-37 cubic meters is how
> much space is drained by each baryon in a star while growing time of
> one second from the star as a radial expansion of the universe at
> speed c. The derivation of  this formula is on my page for the
> periodic table of units of measure:


G is not known at all accurately, making it singularly unsuited for use 
in defining anything.

Sylvia.

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#390580

On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 7:22:17 PM UTC-10, Sylvia Else wrote: 
> 
> G is not known at all accurately, making it singularly unsuited for use 
> in defining anything.
> 
> Sylvia.

This formula can be used to get a more accurate value for G, using our standard second. The constants of physics need to be reconciled and that work can improve the G accuracy.

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#390623

On 23/08/2016 2:41 AM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 7:22:17 PM UTC-10, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>
>> G is not known at all accurately, making it singularly unsuited for
>> use in defining anything.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> This formula can be used to get a more accurate value for G, using
> our standard second. The constants of physics need to be reconciled
> and that work can improve the G accuracy.
>

The whole point of your posting was to redefine the second. Now you want 
to redefine G in terms of the existing definition of the second.

Sylvia.

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#390627

W dniu wtorek, 23 sierpnia 2016 05:17:20 UTC+2 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> 
> The whole point of your posting was to redefine the second. Now you want 
> to redefine G in terms of the existing definition of the second.

Your relativity appeared after the same trick.

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#390650

 (mak/heG)*(4 pi)*7*10^-37 meter^3 = 0.988321 seconds 


1 / (1.02377366^0.5) = 0.98832100168

http://i64.tinypic.com/264qjaa.jpg

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#390651

On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 5:17:20 PM UTC-10, Sylvia Else wrote: 
> The whole point of your posting was to redefine the second. Now you want 
> to redefine G in terms of the existing definition of the second.
> 
> Sylvia.

This equation proposes a Definition of Time. The most basic action in reality is gravity. My gravity volume theory states that a second kind of momentum (p) is the most fundamental of all units of measure. Time is based on that momentum and time is less basic than momentum.

p = V/t = volume / time = space / time

Humans use time and space in science, but old science has not approved of the second momentum, p. Time is therefore being described in detail. Space and time are made from the basic momentum of free space, p. Time is defined by momentum and space. 

1 second = W * 7*10^-37 cubic meters

where W is defined in my earlier post here.

Time is defined in these essays to show exactly how old science constants of physics are related to the momentum of free space. For each baryon:

p = 7*10^-37 meter^3 / second

All those h, k, G, a, m, q old constants are now translated into the modern scientific articulated theory. Their magnitudes can be made more precise by this theory.

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#390654

Alan Folmsbee wrote:

equation proposes a Definition of Time. The most basic action in reality is gravity. My gravity volume theory states that a second kind of momentum (p) is the most fundamental of all units of measure. Time is based on that momentum and time is less basic than momentum. 


Planck Momentum: Malcolm Macleod

Planck unit theory: Fine structure constant alpha and sqrt of Planck momentum

http://vixra.org/pdf/1308.0118v4.pdf

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#390655

Q = 1.0191134112 = 1/0.98124505968

Planck unit theory: Fine structure constant alpha and sqrt of Planck momentum
Malcolm Macleod

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#390656

1 / ((1 / (1 - (1 / 1.0191134112))) * c) = 6.2559747e-11

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#391130

137.03600 / (0.988321^0.125) = 137.237380655

(2997.92458 * tau)^0.5 = 137.24618637

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