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"God does not play dice."

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  "God does not play dice." The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-03 23:20 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-04 08:56 +0200
      Re: "God does not play dice." Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 09:32 +0200
      Re: "God does not play dice." "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 22:33 +0800
        Re: "God does not play dice." Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-04 18:50 +0200
          Re: "God does not play dice." The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-04 12:27 -0700
            Re: "God does not play dice." The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-04 23:07 -0700
          Re: "God does not play dice." "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 19:08 +0800
      Re: "God does not play dice." djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-04 14:55 +0000
        Re: "God does not play dice." The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-04 10:57 -0700
        Re: "God does not play dice." goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-06-04 21:22 +0000
          Re: "God does not play dice." djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-05 01:22 +0000
        Re: "God does not play dice." "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-06-05 00:34 +0100
        Re: "God does not play dice." Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2016-06-04 20:11 -0400
    Re: "God does not play dice." Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 09:22 +0200
    Re: "God does not play dice." "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-06-04 10:15 -0400
      Re: "God does not play dice." Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 14:37 -0400
    Re: "God does not play dice." David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-04 09:33 -0700
      Re: "God does not play dice." "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-04 09:59 -0700
        Re: "God does not play dice." "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-04 10:46 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 19:08 +0800
      Re: "God does not play dice." "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 23:12 +0800

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#384943 — "God does not play dice."

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2016-06-03 23:20 -0700
Subject	"God does not play dice."
Message-ID	<5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com>

"God does not play dice."

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#384946

From	Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date	2016-06-04 08:56 +0200
Message-ID	<nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to	#384943


Użytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...

|"God does not play dice."

As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
I wouldn't be sure.

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#384951

From	Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-04 09:32 +0200
Message-ID	<niu05j$ac5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#384946

Dne 04/06/2016 v 08:56 Maciej Woźniak napsal(a):
> 
> 
> Użytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
> 
> |"God does not play dice."
> 
> As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> I wouldn't be sure. 
> 
It is known that neither God's existence
nor non existence can be proved, so less then obvious.

But if we for discussion purpose accept for now
the existence of God and evil,
it would be high interest of the latter
to persuade people that none of them exists.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#384963

From	"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-04 22:33 +0800
Message-ID	<niuorp$qoc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#384946

On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> I wouldn't be sure.

Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods. Otherwise, they would be 
afraid. :)

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#384973

From	Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date	2016-06-04 18:50 +0200
Message-ID	<niv0t6$mju$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to	#384963

Użytkownik "Mr. Man-wai Chang"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:niuorp$qoc$1@dont-email.me...

On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> I wouldn't be sure.

|Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods.

Explain it to Al-Quaida.

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#384999

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2016-06-04 12:27 -0700
Message-ID	<57532B9F.34D7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#384973

=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> UÅ¼ytkownik "Mr. Man-wai Chang"  napisaÅ‚ w wiadomoÅ›ci grup
> dyskusyjnych:niuorp$qoc$1@dont-email.me...
> 
> On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej WoÅºniak wrote:
> >
> > As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> > I wouldn't be sure.
> 
> |Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods.
> 
> Explain it to Al-Quaida.

Explain it to Israel, they invented terroism!

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#385031

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2016-06-04 23:07 -0700
Message-ID	<5753C1B7.832@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#384999

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >
> > UÅ¼ytkownik "Mr. Man-wai Chang"  napisaÅ‚ w wiadomoÅ›ci grup
> > dyskusyjnych:niuorp$qoc$1@dont-email.me...
> >
> > On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej WoÅºniak wrote:
> > >
> > > As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> > > I wouldn't be sure.
> >
> > |Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods.
> >
> > Explain it to Al-Quaida.
> 
> Explain it to Israel, they invented terroism!


And if you don't believe it, ask Einstein.

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#385041

From	"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-05 19:08 +0800
Message-ID	<nj116u$k8f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#384973

On 5/06/2016 12:50 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> Explain it to Al-Quaida.
>

You sure their God was actually a god not a person? :)

-- 
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  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
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   ^ ^   19:06:52 up 14:33 0 users load average: 1.27 1.12 1.08
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#384964

From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date	2016-06-04 14:55 +0000
Message-ID	<o895GF.o6L@kithrup.com>
In reply to	#384946

In article <nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>,
Maciej Woźniak  <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>
>
>Użytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
>dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
>
>|"God does not play dice."

I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to
do."

But it was Stephen Hawking who later remarked, "God not only
plays dice, but he throws them into a corner where they can't be
seen."

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#384986

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2016-06-04 10:57 -0700
Message-ID	<57531682.E41@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#384964

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> 
> In article <nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>,
> Maciej WoÅºniak  <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >
> >
> >UÅ¼ytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisaÅ‚ w wiadomoÅ›ci grup
> >dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> >|"God does not play dice."
> 
> I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to
> do."
> 
> But it was Stephen Hawking who later remarked, "God not only
> plays dice, but he throws them into a corner where they can't be
> seen."
> 
> --
> Dorothy J. Heydt
> Vallejo, California
> djheydt at gmail dot com



you'd be a fool to play dice in the dark.

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#385011

From	goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Date	2016-06-04 21:22 +0000
Message-ID	<o89nD6.1J8M@kithrup.com>
In reply to	#384964

In article <o895GF.o6L@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>,
>Maciej Woźniak  <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Użytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
>>dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
>>
>>|"God does not play dice."
>
>I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to
>do."

A quick Google search suggests that it was Niels Bohr.

-- 
   David Goldfarb          |"I'm reconsidering my desire to go to college, as
goldfarbdj@gmail.com       | from what I've seen on this group it drives one
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  | immediately and incurably insane."
                           | -- ACM, on rec.arts.comics.xbooks

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#385024

From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date	2016-06-05 01:22 +0000
Message-ID	<o89yHG.22zK@kithrup.com>
In reply to	#385011

In article <o89nD6.1J8M@kithrup.com>,
David Goldfarb <goldfarbdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <o895GF.o6L@kithrup.com>,
>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>In article <nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>,
>>Maciej Woźniak  <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Użytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
>>>dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
>>>
>>>|"God does not play dice."
>>
>>I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to
>>do."
>
>A quick Google search suggests that it was Niels Bohr.

Ah, thanks.  He was a good man with an aphorism.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#385019

From	"Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net>
Date	2016-06-05 00:34 +0100
Message-ID	<drh6rnFh6jmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#384964

"Dorothy J Heydt"  wrote 

>|"God does not play dice."

> I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to do."

> But it was Stephen Hawking who later remarked, "God not only
plays dice, but he throws them into a corner where they can't be
seen."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation#Criticism

Bohr, in response, said, "Einstein, don't tell God what to do."[55]


-- 
Mike D

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#385020

From	Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net>
Date	2016-06-04 20:11 -0400
Message-ID	<nivqmn$bhk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#384964

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>,
> Maciej WoÅºniak  <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>
>> UÅ¼ytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisaÅ‚ w wiadomoÅ›ci grup
>> dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
>>
>> |"God does not play dice."
>
> I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to
> do."

Bohr as I recall.

>
> But it was Stephen Hawking who later remarked, "God not only
> plays dice, but he throws them into a corner where they can't be
> seen."
>

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#384950

From	Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-04 09:22 +0200
Message-ID	<nitvjt$8t7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#384943

Dne 04/06/2016 v 08:20 The Starmaker napsal(a):

> "God does not play dice."
> 

Making statements is almost unrestricted by nature laws.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#384962

From	"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com>
Date	2016-06-04 10:15 -0400
Message-ID	<niunpv$n0g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#384943

On 6/4/16 2:20 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> "God does not play dice."
>


	"Not only does God play dice, he rolls them where they cannot be seen."

	So God's a GM.


-- 
                      Sea Wasp
                        /^\
                        ;;;	
Website: http://www.grandcentralarena.com  Blog: 
http://seawasp.livejournal.com

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#384992

From	Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com>
Date	2016-06-04 14:37 -0400
Message-ID	<0001HW.1D03577C0398BAAD700000BD53CF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#384962

On 2016 Jun 04, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote
(in article <niunpv$n0g$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 6/4/16 2:20 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > "God does not play dice."
> 
> 
> "Not only does God play dice, he rolls them where they cannot be seen."
> 
> So God's a GM.

Most (all?) GMs think that they’re God, so that’s fair.

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#384967

From	David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com>
Date	2016-06-04 09:33 -0700
Message-ID	<cb2bcb68-8cb0-40d5-9553-de709fc82a7d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#384943

On Friday, June 3, 2016 at 11:18:59 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> "God does not play dice."

Idiot religionist spam. Reporting as such.

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#384977

From	"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date	2016-06-04 09:59 -0700
Message-ID	<1d0030cc-98c3-48af-90dc-97f25b6d2492@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#384967

David Waite mumbled:
The Starmaker wrote: 
> "God does not play dice." 

Idiot religionist spam. Reporting as such. 

I am the beginning, the end, the one who is many. 
Let US (the hive) go down and confuse thier language. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jibEwOHr2t8

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#384983

From	"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date	2016-06-04 10:46 -0700
Message-ID	<94887b03-06bd-4972-84c9-4079a9215e3b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#384977

Linguistic Virus 

Must transmit linguistic virus. 

Let US (the hive) go down and confuse thier language. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJq8puCCsCo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaMGN6hVT4c

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon02.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jibEwOHr2t8

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