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The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1.

Started byHenry Wilson <HGW@home.com>
First post2016-03-07 20:34 +0000
Last post2016-03-21 06:29 +1100
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  The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-07 20:34 +0000
    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. François Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-07 21:16 +0000
    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 15:29 -0600
      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-08 17:15 +0000
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 11:20 -0600
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 13:21 +1100
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 19:37 -0800
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 14:47 +1100
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 04:36 -0800
                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 19:25 +0000
                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Francois Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org> - 2016-03-09 19:32 +0000
                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 14:15 -0800
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 22:12 -0600
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-09 19:23 +0000
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-17 19:29 +1100
                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Dingxiang Huizhong <dingx@consumerdomain.org> - 2016-03-17 16:23 +0000
                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 15:56 -0700
                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-18 11:36 +1100
                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 18:50 -0700
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-17 16:09 +1100
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 22:54 -0700
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 23:56 -0700
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 00:14 -0700
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 03:51 -0700
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:09 -0500
    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-07 22:42 +0100
      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-08 17:11 +0000
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 22:15 -0600
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-09 19:10 +1100
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 08:48 -0600
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-09 20:06 +0000
        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-09 21:59 +0100
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 15:07 -0600
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-10 09:15 +1100
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 16:34 -0600
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 09:32 -0600
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-12 19:27 +0000
                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 09:49 -0500
                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-15 11:14 +1100
                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 07:53 -0500
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Luigi Durante <luigdu@jaccappo.org> - 2016-03-09 21:14 +0000
          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-10 09:09 +1100
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 16:13 -0600
            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-10 14:43 +0100
              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-12 18:50 +0000
                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-13 20:43 +0100
                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-14 09:59 +1100
                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-14 13:39 +0100
                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 08:01 -0700
                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-15 11:01 +1100
                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 00:04 -0700
                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-15 20:08 +1100
                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 04:43 -0700
                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-15 11:23 +1100
                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-15 23:20 +0100
                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-16 10:20 +1100
                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-17 11:08 +0100
                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 17:31 -0700
                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 07:55 -0500
                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 11:16 -0700
                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 12:23 -0500
                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 11:25 -0700
                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 13:38 -0500
                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 14:22 -0700
                                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 16:36 -0500
                                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-17 09:17 +1100
                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 17:47 -0500
                                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-16 21:39 -0500
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 22:09 -0700
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-17 11:31 +0100
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:11 -0500
                                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-18 09:28 +1100
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:06 -0500
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:47 -0700
                                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 11:55 -0500
                                                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:09 -0700
                                                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 12:29 -0500
                                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Dewydd Hrodland <dewdhr@wisecommodities.org> - 2016-03-17 17:34 +0000
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:04 -0500
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-18 09:37 +1100
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-17 19:23 -0700
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-18 20:05 +1100
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:14 -0500
                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 18:03 -0700
                                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 00:01 -0700
                                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-18 09:48 +1100
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 01:25 -0700
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 07:34 -0500
                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 13:48 -0500
                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 14:24 -0700
                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 16:37 -0500
                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 10:15 -0500
                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-17 11:38 +0000
                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 08:58 -0500
                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-18 10:16 +1100
                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:07 -0500
                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 07:39 -0500
                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-19 06:15 +1100
                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 15:37 -0500
                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-20 03:38 +1100
                                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 15:39 -0500
                                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-20 11:08 +1100
                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-20 18:22 +0000
                                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-21 06:43 +1100
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 15:31 -0500
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-21 08:17 +1100
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 16:39 -0500
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-20 22:28 +0100
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-20 21:11 +0000
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-21 08:20 +1100
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 16:42 -0500
                                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-21 12:15 +1100
                                                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 09:29 -0500
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-20 23:51 +0000
                                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-22 21:17 +1100
                                                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-23 05:00 +0000
                                                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-23 20:11 +1100
                                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-23 13:40 +0000
                                                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-24 08:50 +1100
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 16:11 -0700
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-21 12:17 +1100
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-21 01:45 +0000
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 22:50 -0700
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 23:03 -0700
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-21 20:29 +1100
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 10:59 -0700
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-21 03:19 -0700
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 11:09 -0700
                                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-21 20:01 +0100
                                                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 13:38 -0700
                                                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-21 21:47 +0100
                                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 21:46 -0700
                                                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-22 00:31 -0700
                                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. bear making dust <bear@bearmakingdust.net> - 2016-03-21 19:43 +0000
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 09:42 -0500
                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 09:27 -0500
                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 21:38 -0700
                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-20 03:56 +1100
                                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 12:19 -0700
                                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-20 08:03 +1100
                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 21:21 -0700
                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 21:43 -0700
                                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 22:15 -0700
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 05:16 -0700
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-21 06:37 +1100
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 20:38 -0700
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 22:31 -0700
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 22:44 -0700
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 22:55 -0700
                                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 23:13 -0700
                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 09:09 -0500
                                              Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 17:33 -0700
                                                Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 23:14 -0700
                                                  Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 00:26 -0700
                                                    Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 01:54 -0700
                                                      Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 19:33 -0700
                                                        Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 22:03 -0700
                                                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 05:28 -0700
                                                            Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 14:00 -0700
                                          Re: The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-21 06:29 +1100

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#378199 — The Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1.

FromHenry Wilson <HGW@home.com>
Date2016-03-07 20:34 +0000
SubjectThe Einstein Conspiracy...Part 1.
Message-ID<nbkoli$jjc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
If a conspiracy is to be mounted against an individual or group, its name 
must be continually associated with things bad. To favourably promote a 
name, it should be associated anything good. Conspiracies have been very 
common throughout history, not only in the political arena but also in 
civilian matters such as 'framing' a person...or spreading a rumour that 
a woman a witch or an innocent man a wife beater or a rapist. Probably 
the second most successful conspiracy of all time has been the promotion 
of the commo hippy Jesus Christ as being the son of some kind of 
imaginary 'god' thing. How could any kid not believe the story when it is 
written and stated so often and pictures and statues of the poor bugger 
strung up on a cross are as common as plastic bottles on the 
roadside...Women even dangle them from their necks, where every man 
looks. Surely the story must be true, with all that 'evidence'!  -:)

The promotion of Adolph Hitler was achieved through a massive and evil 
conspiracy. The Vietnam war was started by a US fabrication of facts...as 
was the recent destruction of Iraq. Associating kings, queens, various 
criminals, tax dodgers, corrupt officials and even demented US presidents 
with charitable organizations has also been very effective in giving 
people a clean image. However the promotion of the name Albert Einstein 
as the world's symbol of genius surpasses all other conspiracies by a 
long shot since it has fooled so many people who are undoubtedly a lot 
smarter than the man himself. 

Over the coming months, I will be discussing instances of the way in 
which name Einstein has been deviously linked to a long of important 
scientific issues. Today's subject will be a simple one...the precession 
of Mercury.

For centuries, nobody could properly explain that precession. In reality, 
nobody could properly explain ANY planetary precession for the simple 
reason that it depends on the positions of other planets and is never 
constant but CHAOTIC in nature. Einstein stuck a factor of two in 
somewhere to make his predictions match the current rate of precession 
and was immediately accepted as someone who should be taken seriously.

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#378211

FromFrançois Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org>
Date2016-03-07 21:16 +0000
Message-ID<nbkr2t$nfi$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#378199
Henry Wilson wrote:

> If a conspiracy is to be mounted against an individual or group, its
> name must be continually associated with things bad. To favourably
> promote a name, it should be associated anything good. Conspiracies have
> been very common throughout history, not only in the political arena but
> also in civilian matters such as 'framing' a person...or spreading a
> rumour that a woman a witch or an innocent man a wife beater or a
> rapist. Probably the second most successful conspiracy of all time has
> been the promotion of the commo hippy Jesus Christ as being the son of
> some kind of imaginary 'god' thing. How could any kid not believe the
> story when it is written and stated so often and pictures and statues of
> the poor bugger strung up on a cross are as common as plastic bottles on
> the roadside...Women even dangle them from their necks, where every man
> looks. Surely the story must be true, with all that 'evidence'!  -

You loose the point, Anrry. To understand that thing you have to start 
from the very beginning, and work your way up.

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#378213

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-07 15:29 -0600
Message-ID<I_udnb_4XMtYb0DLnZ2dnUU7-bOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#378199
On 3/7/16 2:34 PM, Henry Wilson wrote:
> For centuries, nobody could properly explain that precession. In reality,
> nobody could properly explain ANY planetary precession for the simple
> reason that it depends on the positions of other planets and is never
> constant but CHAOTIC in nature. Einstein stuck a factor of two in
> somewhere to make his predictions match the current rate of precession
> and was immediately accepted as someone who should be taken seriously.


   General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
   wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
   exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.

   Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is
   in agreement. The theory is correct and remains a fruitful too
   of physics.

Tests of general relativity
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity

Tests of special relativity
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity
   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles



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#378283

FromHenry Wilson <HGW@home.com>
Date2016-03-08 17:15 +0000
Message-ID<nbn1bt$19g8$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#378213
On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:29:41 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

> On 3/7/16 2:34 PM, Henry Wilson wrote:
>> For centuries, nobody could properly explain that precession. In
>> reality,
>> nobody could properly explain ANY planetary precession for the simple
>> reason that it depends on the positions of other planets and is never
>> constant but CHAOTIC in nature. Einstein stuck a factor of two in
>> somewhere to make his predictions match the current rate of precession
>> and was immediately accepted as someone who should be taken seriously.
> 
> 
>    General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
>    wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
>    exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.

There is no way to predict chaotic behavior, idiot. Mercury's precession 
has no fixed value.

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#378284

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-08 11:20 -0600
Message-ID<L8SdnTStNfJklELLnZ2dnUU7-KWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#378283
On 3/8/16 11:15 AM, Henry Wilson wrote:
>
> There is no way to predict chaotic behavior, idiot. Mercury's precession
> has no fixed value.
>
>

   Ralph, you best look up the data for the precession of perihelion in
   Mercury's orbit.

   General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
   wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
   exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.

   Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is
   in agreement. The theory is correct and remains a fruitful too
   of physics.

Tests of general relativity
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity

Tests of special relativity
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity
   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles



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#378323

FromHGW <hw@...>
Date2016-03-09 13:21 +1100
Message-ID<nbo1ba$rak$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#378284
On 09/03/16 04:20, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 3/8/16 11:15 AM, Henry Wilson wrote:
>>
>> There is no way to predict chaotic behavior, idiot. Mercury's precession
>> has no fixed value.
>>
>>
>
>    Ralph, you best look up the data for the precession of perihelion in
>    Mercury's orbit.
>
>    General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
>    wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
>    exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.

Bullshit....pure bullshit.. There is no fixed value for the precession 
of Mercury....so how could any theory predict one?

>    Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is
>    in agreement. The theory is correct and remains a fruitful too
>    of physics.
>
> Tests of general relativity
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity
>
> Tests of special relativity
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity
>    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles

...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is 
believable.

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#378328

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-03-08 19:37 -0800
Message-ID<0a88ba80-4082-41e4-8549-933c34b20450@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#378323
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:21:35 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:
>
> Bullshit....pure bullshit.. There is no fixed value for the precession 
> of Mercury....so how could any theory predict one?
> ....
> ...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is 
> believable.

The idiot speaks, nobody cares.

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#378329

FromHGW <hw@...>
Date2016-03-09 14:47 +1100
Message-ID<nbo6d4$1190$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#378328
On 09/03/16 14:37, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:21:35 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:
>>
>> Bullshit....pure bullshit.. There is no fixed value for the precession
>> of Mercury....so how could any theory predict one?
>> ....
>> ...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is
>> believable.
>
> The idiot speaks, nobody cares.

then why do you bother to do it....
...and don't forget to check under your bed for those atheists....

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#378363

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-03-09 04:36 -0800
Message-ID<4afe3b87-73fb-4675-81c6-f61021e6e829@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#378329
On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:47:54 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:
>
> On 09/03/16 14:37, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:21:35 PM UTC-7, HGW wrote:
> > >
> > > Bullshit....pure bullshit.. There is no fixed value for the precession
> > > of Mercury....so how could any theory predict one?
> > > ....
> > > ...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is
> > > believable.
> >
> > The idiot speaks, nobody cares.
> 
> then why do you bother to do it....

Just injecting a bit of honesty in your duplicitous maunderings.

> ...and don't forget to check under your bed for those atheists....

Are you saying there are no such thing as atheists?  It has been said
that there are no atheists in foxholes.  Well, I wouldn't know, but
there is one place where there will be no atheists :-)

But HONEST atheists don't exist right now because there IS evidence
that some part of us exists after death.  Take for example, the
experiments of Dr. Duncan McDougall that people claim resulted in a
weight loss on death of 21 grams (actually, it looks to me that the
average value was about half that, but the sigma still made the lowest
probability greater than zero).  That means that the probability of
the existence of a "soul" is twice as much as the probability that
there is none.  Of course, evidence of a soul isn't evidence of a God,
but it does open up consideration.

And then there are the investigations of Dr. Raymond Moody and many others
who have interviewed those who have had near-death experiences:

http://www.amazon.com/Life-After-Investigation-Phenomenon-Survival-Bodily/dp/0062517392

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_Is_for_Real

I had an atheist friend who claimed that atheists must do an extensive,
comprehensive STUDY before they can become an atheist.

The problem with this is that it is impossible to KNOW that one has done
a sufficient study, and I think that most so-called atheists have not
made a comprehensive study.  And what we have learned about the universe
since that time expands the field of study immensely.
 
All we have are our assumptions.  I have mine and you have yours.  As a
scientist, however, I must continually test my assumptions against what is
known about the universe.  First, before we can even converse about God,
we have to understand what we mean by that:  what is our definition of God?
Again, I have my definition and you have yours.  The God you claim doesn't
exist may not have any bearing on "my" God's existence.

From McDougall's data, it would be wrong to categorically reject the concept
of a soul.  An honest person would at least say more study is needed.  From
near-death experiences, doubt must soften atheistic claims.  And then there
is the ridiculous claim that atheists know what God is.  They put the little
tin god that they invented in a little tin box and pretend that they have
disproven God's existence.  This is a dishonest straw-man argument.

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#378400

FromHenry Wilson <HGW@home.com>
Date2016-03-09 19:25 +0000
Message-ID<nbptb7$1mun$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#378363
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:36:20 -0800, Gary Harnagel wrote:

....the ultimate crap.

You have now been  plonked. Time is too valuable to be wasted on 
religious pedophiles. 

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#378401

FromFrancois Theobaldus <fraop@sshimown.org>
Date2016-03-09 19:32 +0000
Message-ID<nbpto1$1mmk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#378400
Henry Wilson wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:36:20 -0800, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> 
> ....the ultimate crap.
> 
> You have now been  plonked. Time is too valuable to be wasted on
> religious pedophiles.

Come on, you seems affected.

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#378432

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-03-09 14:15 -0800
Message-ID<e88fc455-149b-4a19-a72b-795cb7af39c4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#378400
On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 12:25:31 PM UTC-7, Henry Wilson wrote:
>
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:36:20 -0800, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> 
> [The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

> You have now been  plonked. Time is too valuable to be wasted on 
> religious pedophiles.

So "Henry" the immoral, lying atheist refuses to respond to truth,
preferring to lie and hurl personal attacks.  This is HIS brand of
"morality" and "honesty" :-))

He has no honor, no morality and no rationality.

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#378332

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-08 22:12 -0600
Message-ID<c8udnSnlg60hP0LLnZ2dnUU7-SmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#378323
On 3/8/16 8:21 PM, HGW wrote:
> ...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is
> believable.


   General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
   wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
   exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.

   Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is
   in agreement. The theory is correct and remains a fruitful too
   of physics.

Tests of general relativity
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity

Tests of special relativity
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity
   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles



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#378399

FromHenry Wilson <HGW@home.com>
Date2016-03-09 19:23 +0000
Message-ID<nbpt7d$1mun$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#378332
On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:12:44 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

> On 3/8/16 8:21 PM, HGW wrote:
>> ...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is
>> believable.
> 
> 
>    General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
>    wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
>    exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.
> 
>    Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is in
>    agreement. The theory is correct and remains a fruitful too of
>    physics.
> 
> Tests of general relativity
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity
> 
> Tests of special relativity
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity
>    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles

Not an ounce of truth in any of them....all just part of the conspiracy...

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#379307

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-03-17 19:29 +1100
Message-ID<dkv86tFf1b9U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#378399
On 10/03/2016 6:23 AM, Henry Wilson wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:12:44 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>> On 3/8/16 8:21 PM, HGW wrote:
>>> ...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is
>>> believable.
>>
>>
>>     General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
>>     wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
>>     exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.
>>
>>     Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is in
>>     agreement. The theory is correct and remains a fruitful too of
>>     physics.
>>
>> Tests of general relativity
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity
>>
>> Tests of special relativity
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity
>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles
>
> Not an ounce of truth in any of them....all just part of the conspiracy...
>

I've previously expressed the view that Henry is delusional in the 
mental illness sense. Nothing has changed.

Sylvia.

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#379333

FromDingxiang Huizhong <dingx@consumerdomain.org>
Date2016-03-17 16:23 +0000
Message-ID<ncell8$1kk2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#379307
Sylvia Else wrote:

>> Not an ounce of truth in any of them....all just part of the
>> conspiracy...
>
> I've previously expressed the view that Henry is delusional in the
> mental illness sense. Nothing has changed. Sylvia.

MIT Engineer disputes Relativity Theory Collapse-Part 1 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8W-t57xnZg

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#379388

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-17 15:56 -0700
Message-ID<41fb96aa-cbda-4696-9880-bf933a01f6f2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#379307
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 1:29:20 AM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 10/03/2016 6:23 AM, Henry Wilson wrote:
> > On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:12:44 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/8/16 8:21 PM, HGW wrote:
> >>> ...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is
> >>> believable.
> >>
> >>
> >>     General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
> >>     wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
> >>     exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.
> >>
> >>     Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is in
> >>     agreement. The theory is correct and remains a fruitful too of
> >>     physics.
> >>
> >> Tests of general relativity
> >>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity
> >>
> >> Tests of special relativity
> >>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity
> >>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles
> >
> > Not an ounce of truth in any of them....all just part of the conspiracy...
> >
> 
> I've previously expressed the view that Henry is delusional in the 
> mental illness sense. Nothing has changed.
> 
> Sylvia.

A couple of articles:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=2 

http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fpsyg.2013.00424/full

--
Jan

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#379394

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-03-18 11:36 +1100
Message-ID<dl10spFtho1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#379388
On 18/03/2016 9:56 AM, JanPB wrote:
> On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 1:29:20 AM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 10/03/2016 6:23 AM, Henry Wilson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:12:44 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/8/16 8:21 PM, HGW wrote:
>>>>> ...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is
>>>>> believable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
>>>>      wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
>>>>      exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.
>>>>
>>>>      Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is in
>>>>      agreement. The theory is correct and remains a fruitful too of
>>>>      physics.
>>>>
>>>> Tests of general relativity
>>>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity
>>>>
>>>> Tests of special relativity
>>>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity
>>>>      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles
>>>
>>> Not an ounce of truth in any of them....all just part of the conspiracy...
>>>
>>
>> I've previously expressed the view that Henry is delusional in the
>> mental illness sense. Nothing has changed.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> A couple of articles:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=2
>
> http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fpsyg.2013.00424/full
>
> --
> Jan
>
Though I find it hard to believe that that could be the explanation for 
Henry's beliefs, which are, after all, about some corner of physics that 
has no practical effect on people's lives. Unlike bombings, other 
disasters and the death of Princess Diana, the reaction of the vast 
majority of people to relativity is one of complete indifference.

Sylvia.

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#379399

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-17 18:50 -0700
Message-ID<6206ddb9-61a2-4874-a173-33eb8200abb7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#379394
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 5:36:45 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 18/03/2016 9:56 AM, JanPB wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 1:29:20 AM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 10/03/2016 6:23 AM, Henry Wilson wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:12:44 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 3/8/16 8:21 PM, HGW wrote:
> >>>>> ...all part of the giant conspiracy....Not one of those experiments is
> >>>>> believable.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>      General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
> >>>>      wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
> >>>>      exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.
> >>>>
> >>>>      Every test of General Relativity to date, shows that nature is in
> >>>>      agreement. The theory is correct and remains a fruitful too of
> >>>>      physics.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tests of general relativity
> >>>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity
> >>>>
> >>>> Tests of special relativity
> >>>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity
> >>>>      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation_of_moving_particles
> >>>
> >>> Not an ounce of truth in any of them....all just part of the conspiracy...
> >>>
> >>
> >> I've previously expressed the view that Henry is delusional in the
> >> mental illness sense. Nothing has changed.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > A couple of articles:
> >
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=2
> >
> > http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fpsyg.2013.00424/full
> >
> > --
> > Jan
> >
> Though I find it hard to believe that that could be the explanation for 
> Henry's beliefs, which are, after all, about some corner of physics that 
> has no practical effect on people's lives. Unlike bombings, other 
> disasters and the death of Princess Diana, the reaction of the vast 
> majority of people to relativity is one of complete indifference.

Actually, relativity (and Einstein) are rather unique among physical theories in its
popularity among "conspirators". OTOH QED (and Feynman) are left completely alone.
Has anyone ever seen a crank dissecting the fine points of the Feynman propagator lines?
BZZZZT!

--
Jan

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#379297

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-03-17 16:09 +1100
Message-ID<dkusfuFc98iU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#378283
On 9/03/2016 4:15 AM, Henry Wilson wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:29:41 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>> On 3/7/16 2:34 PM, Henry Wilson wrote:
>>> For centuries, nobody could properly explain that precession. In
>>> reality,
>>> nobody could properly explain ANY planetary precession for the simple
>>> reason that it depends on the positions of other planets and is never
>>> constant but CHAOTIC in nature. Einstein stuck a factor of two in
>>> somewhere to make his predictions match the current rate of precession
>>> and was immediately accepted as someone who should be taken seriously.
>>
>>
>>     General relativity makes very specific predictions. There is no
>>     wiggle room. The theory is either right or wrong. General Relativity
>>     exactly predicted the precession of perihelion in Mercury's orbit.
>
> There is no way to predict chaotic behavior, idiot. Mercury's precession
> has no fixed value.
>

Orbits are chaotic in the very long term, but in the short term, the 
effects of the other planets can be taken into account. When that's 
done, Mercury's orbit still doesn't match theory unless general 
relativity is taken into account.

Sylvia.

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