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Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity

Started byPentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com>
First post2016-02-02 10:24 -0800
Last post2016-02-04 07:58 -0800
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  Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-02 10:24 -0800
    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-02 11:05 -0800
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-02 21:20 +0000
    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 13:32 -0800
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-02 21:37 +0000
    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 00:44 -0800
    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-03 22:07 +1100
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-03 23:24 +1100
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 04:54 -0800
        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 05:10 -0800
          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 06:25 -0800
            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 06:59 -0800
              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-03 19:29 +0100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 11:24 -0800
                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-03 20:32 +0100
                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 14:16 -0800
                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-03 23:07 +0000
                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 18:21 -0800
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 23:16 -0800
                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 23:13 -0800
                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 04:48 -0800
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 05:12 -0800
                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 05:16 -0800
                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 06:03 -0800
                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 10:53 -0800
                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-04 21:21 +0100
        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 11:48 -0800
          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-03 20:56 +0100
        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-04 10:15 +1100
          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 20:26 -0800
          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 23:20 -0800
            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-04 19:31 +1100
              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 01:45 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-04 21:59 +1100
                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 05:11 -0800
                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-05 12:18 +1100
                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 23:25 -0800
                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 23:32 -0800
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 00:06 -0800
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-05 20:22 +1100
                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-05 20:21 +1100
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 02:20 -0800
                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-05 22:05 +1100
                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 03:34 -0800
                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-05 05:15 -0800
                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 05:44 -0800
                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-05 05:52 -0800
                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 06:02 -0800
                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 11:14 -0800
                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-05 12:34 -0800
                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-05 21:51 +0100
                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 05:26 -0800
                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 04:35 -0800
                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-06 12:18 +1100
                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-06 09:23 +0100
                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-06 19:46 +1100
                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-06 10:52 +0100
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-06 22:34 +1100
                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-06 13:08 +0100
                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 09:48 +1100
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 08:50 +0100
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 09:31 +0100
                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 22:49 +1100
                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 13:17 +0100
                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 14:15 +0100
                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-08 13:46 +1100
                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-08 18:15 +0100
                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 11:23 +1100
                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-08 22:43 -0800
                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 23:01 +1100
                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 04:42 -0800
                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 17:18 +1100
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 22:56 -0800
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 23:29 -0800
                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 18:51 +1100
                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 00:42 -0800
                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 22:48 +1100
                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 04:16 -0800
                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 05:51 -0800
                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 06:27 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 07:15 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-10 18:16 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 09:24 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-10 17:31 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 13:36 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 22:56 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 18:50 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 00:58 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 21:41 +1100
                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 04:02 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 05:29 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 06:40 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 07:30 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-11 17:12 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 14:27 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-12 16:44 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-12 11:48 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 00:54 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-13 11:14 +1100
                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 08:43 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-13 22:18 +1100
                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 12:54 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-13 23:02 +1100
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 12:17 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 18:28 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 21:13 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-15 12:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-15 15:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-16 11:19 +1100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 02:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 03:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 04:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 05:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-17 12:14 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-17 06:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-17 17:22 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 23:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-17 22:21 +1100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-17 03:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-17 23:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-18 15:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 11:23 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-21 13:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-21 10:12 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-13 06:04 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 16:27 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 15:29 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 08:28 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 16:40 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 13:32 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:12 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 08:53 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-13 16:11 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 12:20 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:15 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:17 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:13 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 22:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 15:55 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 10:08 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 16:32 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:10 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 20:12 +1100
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:21 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 22:09 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 07:57 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 21:04 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-11 08:13 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-11 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-11 13:55 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 14:30 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-11 17:45 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 14:28 -0800
                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-06 13:31 +0100
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-06 12:35 +0000
                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-06 07:29 -0800
                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 20:54 +0000
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-06 12:59 +0000
                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 09:51 +1100
                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 23:17 +0000
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 10:46 +1100
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-07 00:46 +0000
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-06 15:48 -0800
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 18:39 -0800
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 10:11 +0100
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity ˌsōlər ˈpleksəs <solar@plexus.org> - 2016-02-07 19:34 +0000
                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 14:04 -0800
                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-08 09:12 +0100
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-06 21:57 -0600
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Καλυψώ <calipso214@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-08 15:33 +0000
                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 09:16 -0800
                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Heiðr Einherjar <einherjar@notformail.org> - 2016-02-08 17:24 +0000
                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-08 18:25 +0100
                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 11:24 +1100
                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-08 22:53 -0800
                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 23:02 +1100
                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 04:43 -0800
                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 17:20 +1100
                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 23:05 -0800
                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 18:58 +1100
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 00:32 -0800
                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 22:55 +1100
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 23:13 -0800
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 00:04 -0800
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-04 06:58 -0800
        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-04 07:58 -0800

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#375954

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-02-10 07:15 -0800
Message-ID<62cf5821-bb10-4f06-a430-7b6aacbe0099@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375950
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 7:27:25 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>
> [The disoriented idiot troll defecates on his brain again]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHssMlJlFUo

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#375969

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2016-02-10 18:16 +0100
Message-ID<n9fr8p$3dh$1@node1.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#375954

Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:62cf5821-bb10-4f06-a430-7b6aacbe0099@googlegroups.com...

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 7:27:25 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>
> [The disoriented idiot troll defecates on his brain again]

|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHssMlJlFUo

rave, moron, and spit. what else can you do. 

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#375971

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-02-10 09:24 -0800
Message-ID<e13eda6f-7d08-4736-81cd-5dbbb04de510@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375969
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 10:16:11 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> rave, moron, and spit. what else can you do.

I can certainly do more than regurgitate lies like you do.

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#375973

FromMuddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org>
Date2016-02-10 17:31 +0000
Message-ID<n9fs4k$iut$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375971
Il giorno Gary Harnagel ha scritto:

> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 10:16:11 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak
> wrote:
>>
>> rave, moron, and spit. what else can you do.
> 
> I can certainly do more than regurgitate lies like you do.

As choosing the worst thinkable region on a function, in order to 
accomplish a routine physics task.

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#376004

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-11 13:36 +1100
Message-ID<di2adbF35adU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#375950
On 11/02/2016 1:27 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:

> Yes, they are. And the numbers on their displays are equal,
> with the precision of the acceptable error, i.e. t'=t,
> against your insane Shit claiming accurate clocks should
> indicate its insane time dilation.
>

Why are you so convinced of this? Have you tried it?

Sylvia.

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#376009

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-02-10 22:56 -0800
Message-ID<2e909a82-a840-405c-80f4-612e6619c2f0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#376004
W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 03:36:31 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> On 11/02/2016 1:27 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> 
> > Yes, they are. And the numbers on their displays are equal,
> > with the precision of the acceptable error, i.e. t'=t,
> > against your insane Shit claiming accurate clocks should
> > indicate its insane time dilation.
> >
> 
> Why are you so convinced of this? Have you tried it?

Have I tried what?
I'm convinced, that clocks indications are equal,
because it's written in any documentation, and
almost everyone here confirms.

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#376011

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-11 18:50 +1100
Message-ID<di2sqlF7665U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#376009
On 11/02/2016 5:56 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 03:36:31 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>> On 11/02/2016 1:27 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, they are. And the numbers on their displays are equal,
>>> with the precision of the acceptable error, i.e. t'=t,
>>> against your insane Shit claiming accurate clocks should
>>> indicate its insane time dilation.
>>>
>>
>> Why are you so convinced of this? Have you tried it?
>
> Have I tried what?
> I'm convinced, that clocks indications are equal,
> because it's written in any documentation, and
> almost everyone here confirms.
>

They're the same when the clocks are next to each other and not moving 
relative to each other.

I challenge you to produce documentation that says they the same 
regardless of circumstances.

Sylvia.

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#376013

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-02-11 00:58 -0800
Message-ID<46d4c66f-2ff7-42e2-a556-c80503051456@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#376011
W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 08:50:49 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> On 11/02/2016 5:56 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 03:36:31 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> >> On 11/02/2016 1:27 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, they are. And the numbers on their displays are equal,
> >>> with the precision of the acceptable error, i.e. t'=t,
> >>> against your insane Shit claiming accurate clocks should
> >>> indicate its insane time dilation.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Why are you so convinced of this? Have you tried it?
> >
> > Have I tried what?
> > I'm convinced, that clocks indications are equal,
> > because it's written in any documentation, and
> > almost everyone here confirms.
> >
> 
> They're the same when the clocks are next to each other and not moving 
> relative to each other.

What are "they"? Clocks of GPS?
What do You mean here? No, their settings are different
and they won't indicate the same when get together.

Listen, lady, once again: 
In the claccical physics time was galilean.
t'=t. Not because real clocks indicated so.
Real clocks NEVER did. It was ONLY an idea
of perfect clocks indicating t'=t and hard
work of watchmakers to make clocks as close
to this idea, as possible.
Your guru announced this idea obsolete. Your
guru announced perfect clocks should unsynchronize.
And Your guru only fooled himself. Nothing has 
changed.  We still want our clocks to be 
synchronized,  watchmakers still are doing their 
best to synchronize them and Your "standards" and 
Your chants are - simply - ignored. 

You're  not even able to keep them Yourself.
Pathetic. Really.

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#376016

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-11 21:41 +1100
Message-ID<di36q6F9npvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#376013
On 11/02/2016 7:58 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 08:50:49 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>> On 11/02/2016 5:56 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 03:36:31 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>>>> On 11/02/2016 1:27 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, they are. And the numbers on their displays are equal,
>>>>> with the precision of the acceptable error, i.e. t'=t,
>>>>> against your insane Shit claiming accurate clocks should
>>>>> indicate its insane time dilation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why are you so convinced of this? Have you tried it?
>>>
>>> Have I tried what?
>>> I'm convinced, that clocks indications are equal,
>>> because it's written in any documentation, and
>>> almost everyone here confirms.
>>>
>>
>> They're the same when the clocks are next to each other and not moving
>> relative to each other.
>
> What are "they"? Clocks of GPS?
> What do You mean here? No, their settings are different
> and they won't indicate the same when get together.
>
> Listen, lady, once again:
> In the claccical physics time was galilean.
> t'=t. Not because real clocks indicated so.
> Real clocks NEVER did. It was ONLY an idea
> of perfect clocks indicating t'=t and hard
> work of watchmakers to make clocks as close
> to this idea, as possible.
> Your guru announced this idea obsolete. Your
> guru announced perfect clocks should unsynchronize.
> And Your guru only fooled himself. Nothing has
> changed.  We still want our clocks to be
> synchronized,  watchmakers still are doing their
> best to synchronize them and Your "standards" and
> Your chants are - simply - ignored.

What Einstein said was that if only relative motions matter, and the 
laws of physics are to be the same for all inertial observers, then 
there are certain mathematically unavoidable consequences.

One of the things that has to be the same for all inertial observers is 
the speed of light in a vacuum.

Since we haven't found a situation where the laws of physics are 
observer dependent, and the speed of light in a vacuum is, as far as we 
can tell, the same for all observers, the consequences are indeed 
unavoidable.

One consequence is that clocks that are initially synchronized do not 
remain so if they are put into relative motion. This is not because the 
clocks are changed in any way, but because time itself passes 
differently. The clocks continue to measure time accurately, but the 
time they're measuring is not the same time.

General relativity introduced another consequence - time is affected by 
gravity.

The only way to rescue your desired situation where clocks remain 
synchronized despite relative velocities and the effects of gravity is 
to abandon the requirement that the laws of physics be the same for all 
inertial observers. If that were the case in reality we should be able 
to detect differences in the laws of physics, but we don't.

No amount of abuse is going to change these basic facts.

Sylvia.

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#376018

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-02-11 04:02 -0800
Message-ID<73d12e5d-3a15-4097-b134-fc148294b7be@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#376016
W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 11:41:14 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> On 11/02/2016 7:58 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 08:50:49 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> >> On 11/02/2016 5:56 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >>> W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 03:36:31 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> >>>> On 11/02/2016 1:27 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yes, they are. And the numbers on their displays are equal,
> >>>>> with the precision of the acceptable error, i.e. t'=t,
> >>>>> against your insane Shit claiming accurate clocks should
> >>>>> indicate its insane time dilation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Why are you so convinced of this? Have you tried it?
> >>>
> >>> Have I tried what?
> >>> I'm convinced, that clocks indications are equal,
> >>> because it's written in any documentation, and
> >>> almost everyone here confirms.
> >>>
> >>
> >> They're the same when the clocks are next to each other and not moving
> >> relative to each other.
> >
> > What are "they"? Clocks of GPS?
> > What do You mean here? No, their settings are different
> > and they won't indicate the same when get together.
> >
> > Listen, lady, once again:
> > In the claccical physics time was galilean.
> > t'=t. Not because real clocks indicated so.
> > Real clocks NEVER did. It was ONLY an idea
> > of perfect clocks indicating t'=t and hard
> > work of watchmakers to make clocks as close
> > to this idea, as possible.
> > Your guru announced this idea obsolete. Your
> > guru announced perfect clocks should unsynchronize.
> > And Your guru only fooled himself. Nothing has
> > changed.  We still want our clocks to be
> > synchronized,  watchmakers still are doing their
> > best to synchronize them and Your "standards" and
> > Your chants are - simply - ignored.
> 
> What Einstein said was that if only relative motions matter, and the 
> laws of physics are to be the same for all inertial observers, then 
> there are certain mathematically unavoidable consequences.

Einstein said a lot of things. And a lot of them
were about clocks. 


> Since we haven't found a situation where the laws of physics are 

Lady. Your "laws of physics" depend on measurements.
Measurements depend on both equipment and procedures.
You'll get, what You'll prepare.
You didn't find? Get conscious, lady. A time unit counted
on GPS satellite takes a different number of caesium ticks,
than time unit counted on Earth; what do You think it is?

It wouldn't happen, if You kept Your standard, right,
but You didn't and it happened. Now forget about Your
relativity. Measurements depend on equipment, and You,
Yourself, prepared the equipment to destroy it.


> One consequence is that clocks that are initially synchronized do not 
> remain so if they are put into relative motion. This is not because the 
> clocks are changed in any way, but because time itself passes 
> differently.

Read Your guru sometimes. Time is what clocks INDICATE.
If clocks indications are equal, time passes identically.
Measurements depend on measurement equipment.



> The only way to rescue your desired situation where clocks remain 
> synchronized despite relative velocities and the effects of gravity is 
> to abandon the requirement that the laws of physics be the same for all 
> inertial observers. If that were the case in reality we should be able 
> to detect differences in the laws of physics, but we don't.

As I said - get conscious. You've got what You've
prepared. You've synchronized clocks. Clocks are
measurement equipment. Now measurement says - t'=t.



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#376021

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-02-11 05:29 -0800
Message-ID<d467ebbb-5687-47d2-9a0a-53dde47ef663@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#376018
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 5:02:41 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>
> [His usual abusive nonsense]
>
> Lady. Your "laws of physics" depend on measurements.
> Measurements depend on both equipment and procedures.
> You'll get, what You'll prepare.
> You didn't find? Get conscious, lady.

The equipment is excellent, so are the procedures, and REAL scientists
don't always get what they prepared for.  Get conscious yourself, vacuum head!

> A time unit counted on GPS satellite takes a different number of caesium
> ticks, than time unit counted on Earth; what do You think it is?

Your usual vague sophistry.  Different according to whom, vacuum head?

> Read Your guru sometimes. Time is what clocks INDICATE.
> If clocks indications are equal, time passes identically.
> Measurements depend on measurement equipment.

More vague, thoughtless sophistry.  I have a clock that runs slow.  Its
time is NOT valid time.  Get conscious yourself, vacuum head.

> As I said - get conscious. You've got what You've
> prepared. You've synchronized clocks. Clocks are
> measurement equipment. Now measurement says - t'=t.

More sophist baloney.  What a vacuum head!

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#376027

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-02-11 06:40 -0800
Message-ID<ae395023-5166-4a70-8f73-ee5afc16a178@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#376021
W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 14:29:36 UTC+1 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał:
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 5:02:41 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >
> > [His usual abusive nonsense]
> >
> > Lady. Your "laws of physics" depend on measurements.
> > Measurements depend on both equipment and procedures.
> > You'll get, what You'll prepare.
> > You didn't find? Get conscious, lady.
> 
> The equipment is excellent, so are the procedures, and REAL scientists
> don't always get what they prepared for.  Get conscious yourself, vacuum head!

Learn a little. Your Shit is mostly geometry, right?
In geometry, axioms are always true.
While measurements always have an error inside.


> 
> > A time unit counted on GPS satellite takes a different number of caesium
> > ticks, than time unit counted on Earth; what do You think it is?
> 
> Your usual vague sophistry.  Different according to whom, vacuum head?

Earth clock switches second every 9192631770 ticks.
Satellite switches second after different ammount
of ticks, I don't know precisely. Regardless the 
observer, poor idiot. It's theoretically unproper? 
But real.


> 
> > Read Your guru sometimes. Time is what clocks INDICATE.
> > If clocks indications are equal, time passes identically.
> > Measurements depend on measurement equipment.
> 
> More vague, thoughtless sophistry.  I have a clock that runs slow.  Its
> time is NOT valid time.  

You see, poor idiot, in the real world things
invalid are to correct. After corrections they
are valid (if correction succeeded). GPS clocks
are after correction that obviously succeeded.
I know, it's complicated. Not for your tiny brain.


> > As I said - get conscious. You've got what You've
> > prepared. You've synchronized clocks. Clocks are
> > measurement equipment. Now measurement says - t'=t.
> 
> More sophist baloney.  What a vacuum head!

Rave, moron, and spit. What else can you do.

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#376028

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-02-11 07:30 -0800
Message-ID<92bc0b03-b942-4b09-ad67-29437c503d36@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#376027
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 7:40:14 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>
> W dniu czwartek, 11 lutego 2016 14:29:36 UTC+1 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał:
> >
> > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 5:02:41 AM UTC-7, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > >
> > > [His usual abusive nonsense]
> > >
> > > Lady. Your "laws of physics" depend on measurements.
> > > Measurements depend on both equipment and procedures.
> > > You'll get, what You'll prepare.
> > > You didn't find? Get conscious, lady.
> > 
> > The equipment is excellent, so are the procedures, and REAL scientists
> > don't always get what they prepared for.  Get conscious yourself, vacuum
> > head!
> 
> Learn a little. Your Shit is mostly geometry, right?

Wrong, bozo-brain.  I believe in gravitons.

> In geometry, axioms are always true.
> While measurements always have an error inside.

Geometry is a human invention.  It may or may not correlate with reality.
Errors are human artifacts and can be made arbitrarily small by improving
technology.  So much for your baloney.

> > > A time unit counted on GPS satellite takes a different number of caesium
> > > ticks, than time unit counted on Earth; what do You think it is?
> > 
> > Your usual vague sophistry.  Different according to whom, vacuum head?
> 
> Earth clock switches second every 9192631770 ticks.

That would be true for a cesium clock.  Your reference to that particular
frequency means that you limit what you mean by a clock while maintaining
your usual vague wording.

> Satellite switches second after different ammount of ticks,

A cesium clock is only precise as measured by local equipment.  So a cesium
clock in orbit ticks at exactly the same rate as it does on the ground, or
anywhere else in the universe.  You are woefully wrong ... again.

> I don't know precisely.

You don't know ... period!  You are an arrogant ignoramus.

> Regardless the observer, poor idiot. It's theoretically unproper? 
> But real.

So your brain is scramble.  Everybody already knew that.

> > > Read Your guru sometimes. Time is what clocks INDICATE.
> > > If clocks indications are equal, time passes identically.
> > > Measurements depend on measurement equipment.
> > 
> > More vague, thoughtless sophistry.  I have a clock that runs slow.  Its
> > time is NOT valid time.  
> 
> You see, poor idiot, in the real world things
> invalid are to correct.

More scrambled brain farts.

> After corrections they are valid (if correction succeeded). GPS clocks
> are after correction that obviously succeeded.

But when they were on the earth, they were WRONG - intentionally wrong, but
wrong.

> I know, it's complicated. Not for your tiny brain.

More word farts.  If it weren't for the gas, your cranial cavity would be
a vacuum.

> > > As I said - get conscious. You've got what You've
> > > prepared. You've synchronized clocks. Clocks are
> > > measurement equipment. Now measurement says - t'=t.
> > 
> > More sophist baloney.  What a vacuum head!
> 
> Rave, moron, and spit. What else can you do.

I can think circles around a stupid vacuum head like you.

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#376030

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2016-02-11 17:12 +0100
Message-ID<n9ibsu$ke0$1@node1.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#376028

Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:92bc0b03-b942-4b09-ad67-29437c503d36@googlegroups.com...


> In geometry, axioms are always true.
> While measurements always have an error inside.

|Geometry is a human invention.

As is the truth.

| It may or may not correlate with reality.

But it always correlates with the truth.

|Errors are human artifacts and can be made arbitrarily small by improving
|technology.

Right, poor idiot. They can be made small. When we improve our
equipment and procedures to give results consistent with
our axioms.

> > Your usual vague sophistry.  Different according to whom, vacuum head?
>

> Satellite switches second after different ammount of ticks,

|A cesium clock is only precise as measured by local equipment.

Explain it to GPS staff. When they replace their unprecise
clocks with your precise clocks, your Shit will rise.
And I will admit it matches the reality. As for now, it doesn't.



|So your brain is scramble.  Everybody already knew that.

Rave, moron, and spit. What else can you do.

> After corrections they are valid (if correction succeeded). GPS clocks
> are after correction that obviously succeeded.

|But when they were on the earth, they were WRONG - intentionally wrong, but
|wrong.

Unfortunately, they are not on the earth, so they are axactly, as they
should be, poor idiot.

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#376058

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-02-11 14:27 -0800
Message-ID<0a5b1000-5adf-4e57-8462-46e82f6411d4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#376030
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:12:18 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:92bc0b03-b942-4b09-ad67-29437c503d36@googlegroups.com...
> > 
> > An ignorant fool wrote:
> > >
> > > In geometry, axioms are always true.
> > > While measurements always have an error inside.
> >
> > Geometry is a human invention.
> 
> As is the truth.
 Wrong, bozo-brain.  Truth is reality.

> > It may or may not correlate with reality.
> 
> But it always correlates with the truth.

Wrong again, vacuum head.

> > Errors are human artifacts and can be made arbitrarily small by improving
> > technology.
> 
> Right, poor idiot. They can be made small. When we improve our
> equipment and procedures to give results consistent with
> our axioms.

You are a liar and a hypocrite, vacuum head.

> > > Your usual vague sophistry.  Different according to whom, vacuum head?
> >
> > > Satellite switches second after different ammount of ticks,
> >
> > A cesium clock is only precise as measured by local equipment.
> 
> Explain it to GPS staff. When they replace their unprecise
> clocks with your precise clocks, your Shit will rise.
> And I will admit it matches the reality. As for now, it doesn't.

Sophist bullshit, vacuum head.

> > So your brain is scramble.  Everybody already knew that.
> 
> Rave, moron, and spit. What else can you do.

Hahahaha!  What a moron!

> > > After corrections they are valid (if correction succeeded). GPS clocks
> > > are after correction that obviously succeeded.
> >
> > But when they were on the earth, they were WRONG - intentionally wrong, but
> > wrong.
> 
> Unfortunately, they are not on the earth,

They WERE, stupid vacuum head, and they did not agree, bird-brain.

> so they are axactly, as they should be, poor idiot.

The stupid arrogant fool hasn't a clue :-))))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHssMlJlFUo

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#376123

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2016-02-12 16:44 +0100
Message-ID<n9kum3$n51$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#376058

Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:0a5b1000-5adf-4e57-8462-46e82f6411d4@googlegroups.com...

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:12:18 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:92bc0b03-b942-4b09-ad67-29437c503d36@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > An ignorant fool wrote:
> > >
> > > In geometry, axioms are always true.
> > > While measurements always have an error inside.
> >
> > Geometry is a human invention.
>
> As is the truth.
| Wrong, bozo-brain.  Truth is reality.

Wrong, poor idiot. Truth is a property of the language.


> > Errors are human artifacts and can be made arbitrarily small by 
> > improving
> > technology.
>
> Right, poor idiot. They can be made small. When we improve our
> equipment and procedures to give results consistent with
> our axioms.

|You are a liar and a hypocrite, vacuum head.

Spit, moron. What else can you do.

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#376133

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-02-12 11:48 -0800
Message-ID<668428e4-c61c-4675-9493-201f96da992b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#376123
On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
> dyskusyjnych:0a5b1000-5adf-4e57-8462-46e82f6411d4@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:12:18 AM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > >
> > Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> > dyskusyjnych:92bc0b03-b942-4b09-ad67-29437c503d36@googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > An ignorant fool wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In geometry, axioms are always true.
> > > > While measurements always have an error inside.
> > >
> > > > Geometry is a human invention.
> > >
> > > As is the truth.
> >
> > Wrong, bozo-brain.  Truth is reality.
> 
> Wrong, poor idiot. Truth is a property of the language.

So you ARE a relativist after all.  Unfortunately, you believe the wrong
things to be relative.

> > > > Errors are human artifacts and can be made arbitrarily small by 
> > > > improving technology.
> > >
> > > Right, poor idiot. They can be made small. When we improve our
> > > equipment and procedures to give results consistent with our axioms.
> >
> > You are a liar and a hypocrite, vacuum head.
> 
> Spit, moron. What else can you do.

I know what is relative and what is not.  You don't.

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#376140

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2016-02-13 00:54 +0100
Message-ID<n9lrcu$nel$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#376133

Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:668428e4-c61c-4675-9493-201f96da992b@googlegroups.com...

> > > > Geometry is a human invention.
> > >
> > > As is the truth.
> >
> > Wrong, bozo-brain.  Truth is reality.
>
> Wrong, poor idiot. Truth is a property of the language.

|So you ARE a relativist after all.  Unfortunately, you believe the wrong
|things to be relative.

That's because I'm not a relativistic moron.

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#376141

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-13 11:14 +1100
Message-ID<di7ar0Fc24tU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#376140
On 13/02/2016 10:54 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
>
> Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:668428e4-c61c-4675-9493-201f96da992b@googlegroups.com...
>
>> > > > Geometry is a human invention.
>> > >
>> > > As is the truth.
>> >
>> > Wrong, bozo-brain.  Truth is reality.
>>
>> Wrong, poor idiot. Truth is a property of the language.
>
> |So you ARE a relativist after all.  Unfortunately, you believe the wrong
> |things to be relative.
>
> That's because I'm not a relativistic moron.
>
>

What exactly do you believe in this area?

What do you consider is the proper interpretation of the results of the 
Michelson Morley experiments and similar experiments done subsequently?

Sylvia.

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#376153

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2016-02-13 08:43 +0100
Message-ID<n9mms7$8b9$1@node1.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#376141

Użytkownik "Sylvia Else"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:di7ar0Fc24tU1@mid.individual.net...


> That's because I'm not a relativistic moron.
>
>

|What exactly do you believe in this area?
|What do you consider is the proper interpretation of the results of the
|Michelson Morley experiments and similar experiments done subsequently?

I really don't care. You can interprete them the way You wish.
Just stop insist measurement confirm time dilation.
Measurement of time is reading REAL indications of REAL
clocks. Until You convince us to REALLY construct and REALLY
use Your "proper" unsynchronized clocks, the result of \
measurement is: t'=t.
Just announcing the standard that Your clocks are "proper" is
not  enough. You could as well announce that proper food for
shark is grass.
It simply can't work. 

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