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Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity

Started byPentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com>
First post2016-02-02 10:24 -0800
Last post2016-02-04 07:58 -0800
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  Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-02 10:24 -0800
    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-02 11:05 -0800
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-02 21:20 +0000
    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 13:32 -0800
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-02 21:37 +0000
    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 00:44 -0800
    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-03 22:07 +1100
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-03 23:24 +1100
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 04:54 -0800
        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 05:10 -0800
          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 06:25 -0800
            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 06:59 -0800
              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-03 19:29 +0100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 11:24 -0800
                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-03 20:32 +0100
                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 14:16 -0800
                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-03 23:07 +0000
                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 18:21 -0800
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 23:16 -0800
                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 23:13 -0800
                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 04:48 -0800
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 05:12 -0800
                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 05:16 -0800
                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 06:03 -0800
                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 10:53 -0800
                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-04 21:21 +0100
        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 11:48 -0800
          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-03 20:56 +0100
        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-04 10:15 +1100
          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 20:26 -0800
          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-03 23:20 -0800
            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-04 19:31 +1100
              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 01:45 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-04 21:59 +1100
                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 05:11 -0800
                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-05 12:18 +1100
                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-04 23:25 -0800
                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 23:32 -0800
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 00:06 -0800
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-05 20:22 +1100
                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-05 20:21 +1100
                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 02:20 -0800
                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-05 22:05 +1100
                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 03:34 -0800
                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-05 05:15 -0800
                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 05:44 -0800
                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-05 05:52 -0800
                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 06:02 -0800
                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 11:14 -0800
                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-05 12:34 -0800
                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-05 21:51 +0100
                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 05:26 -0800
                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 04:35 -0800
                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-06 12:18 +1100
                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-06 09:23 +0100
                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-06 19:46 +1100
                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-06 10:52 +0100
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-06 22:34 +1100
                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-06 13:08 +0100
                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 09:48 +1100
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 08:50 +0100
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 09:31 +0100
                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 22:49 +1100
                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 13:17 +0100
                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 14:15 +0100
                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-08 13:46 +1100
                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-08 18:15 +0100
                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 11:23 +1100
                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-08 22:43 -0800
                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 23:01 +1100
                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 04:42 -0800
                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 17:18 +1100
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 22:56 -0800
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 23:29 -0800
                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 18:51 +1100
                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 00:42 -0800
                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 22:48 +1100
                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 04:16 -0800
                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 05:51 -0800
                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 06:27 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 07:15 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-10 18:16 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 09:24 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-10 17:31 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 13:36 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 22:56 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 18:50 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 00:58 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 21:41 +1100
                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 04:02 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 05:29 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 06:40 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 07:30 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-11 17:12 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 14:27 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-12 16:44 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-12 11:48 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 00:54 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-13 11:14 +1100
                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 08:43 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-13 22:18 +1100
                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 12:54 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-13 23:02 +1100
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 12:17 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 18:28 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 21:13 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-15 12:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-15 15:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-16 11:19 +1100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 02:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 03:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 04:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 05:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-17 12:14 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-17 06:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-17 17:22 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-16 23:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-17 22:21 +1100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-17 03:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-17 23:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-18 15:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 11:23 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-21 13:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-21 10:12 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-13 06:04 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 16:27 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 15:29 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 08:28 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 16:40 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 13:32 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:12 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 08:53 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-13 16:11 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 12:20 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:15 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:17 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:13 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 22:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 15:55 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 10:08 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 16:32 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:10 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 20:12 +1100
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-14 10:21 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 22:09 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 07:57 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 21:04 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-11 08:13 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-11 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-11 13:55 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 14:30 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-11 17:45 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 14:28 -0800
                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-06 13:31 +0100
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-06 12:35 +0000
                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-06 07:29 -0800
                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 20:54 +0000
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-06 12:59 +0000
                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 09:51 +1100
                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 23:17 +0000
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 10:46 +1100
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-07 00:46 +0000
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-06 15:48 -0800
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 18:39 -0800
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 10:11 +0100
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity ˌsōlər ˈpleksəs <solar@plexus.org> - 2016-02-07 19:34 +0000
                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 14:04 -0800
                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-08 09:12 +0100
                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-06 21:57 -0600
                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Καλυψώ <calipso214@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-08 15:33 +0000
                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 09:16 -0800
                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Heiðr Einherjar <einherjar@notformail.org> - 2016-02-08 17:24 +0000
                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-08 18:25 +0100
                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 11:24 +1100
                                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-08 22:53 -0800
                                                          Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 23:02 +1100
                                                            Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 04:43 -0800
                                                              Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 17:20 +1100
                                                                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 23:05 -0800
                                                                  Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 18:58 +1100
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 00:32 -0800
                                                                      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 22:55 +1100
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 23:13 -0800
                                        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 00:04 -0800
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-04 06:58 -0800
        Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-04 07:58 -0800

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#375680

Fromshan <shan@enterapps.org>
Date2016-02-06 12:59 +0000
Message-ID<n94qnj$1vtl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375677
Użytkownik Paul B. Andersen napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:

>> next to them. They do this so that they count seconds at the same rate
>> that a clock sitting on Earth counts them. The required adjustment was
>> calculated using general relativity.
> 
> As Sylvia but not Maciej know: 
> GR predicts that a clock in GPS orbit will run fast by a factor
> 4.4546E-10 as observed from the ground.
> https://paulba.no/paper/Ashby.pdf quote (page 16-17):

And Paul, in your single statement you already did a couple of mistakes, 
and certainly also you have them in your hompage. SR predicts ZERO and two 
MAXIMA, let's see whether you know the location of these points.

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#375716

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-07 09:51 +1100
Message-ID<dhnbmmF9mofU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#375680
On 6/02/2016 11:59 PM, shan wrote:
> Użytkownik Paul B. Andersen napisał w wiadomości grup dyskusyjnych:
>
>>> next to them. They do this so that they count seconds at the same rate
>>> that a clock sitting on Earth counts them. The required adjustment was
>>> calculated using general relativity.
>>
>> As Sylvia but not Maciej know:
>> GR predicts that a clock in GPS orbit will run fast by a factor
>> 4.4546E-10 as observed from the ground.
>> https://paulba.no/paper/Ashby.pdf quote (page 16-17):
>
> And Paul, in your single statement you already did a couple of mistakes,
> and certainly also you have them in your hompage. SR predicts ZERO and two
> MAXIMA, let's see whether you know the location of these points.
>

SR is known not to apply in this situation because of the effects of 
gravity.

Sylvia.

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#375721

FromÉibhear <eibhear@no-email.net>
Date2016-02-06 23:17 +0000
Message-ID<n95uu5$1rde$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375716
Sylvia Else wrote:
>> And Paul, in your single statement you already did a couple of
>> mistakes,
>> and certainly also you have them in your hompage. SR predicts ZERO and
>> two MAXIMA, let's see whether you know the location of these points.
>>
> SR is known not to apply in this situation because of the effects of
> gravity. Sylvia.

Which reveals you are not aware of what is going on in physics, young 
lady. Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR. In this 
context SR is stronger than GR. Since GR may have various stochastic 
interpretations, SR is, and will persist being about motion. You don't 
understand physics, young lady.

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#375725

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-07 10:46 +1100
Message-ID<dhneukFafj6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#375721
On 7/02/2016 10:17 AM, Éibhear wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> And Paul, in your single statement you already did a couple of
>>> mistakes,
>>> and certainly also you have them in your hompage. SR predicts ZERO and
>>> two MAXIMA, let's see whether you know the location of these points.
>>>
>> SR is known not to apply in this situation because of the effects of
>> gravity. Sylvia.
>
> Which reveals you are not aware of what is going on in physics, young
> lady. Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR. In this
> context SR is stronger than GR. Since GR may have various stochastic
> interpretations, SR is, and will persist being about motion. You don't
> understand physics, young lady.
>

What's that nonsense? GR is a generalisation of SR to include the 
effects of gravity. It is not a distinct theory.

Sylvia.

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#375730

FromÉibhear <eibhear@no-email.net>
Date2016-02-07 00:46 +0000
Message-ID<n9644n$1u8k$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375725
Sylvia Else wrote:

>>> SR is known not to apply in this situation because of the effects of
>>> gravity. Sylvia.
>>
>> Which reveals you are not aware of what is going on in physics, young
>> lady. Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR. In this
>> context SR is stronger than GR. Since GR may have various stochastic
>> interpretations, SR is, and will persist being about motion. You don't
>> understand physics, young lady.
>
> What's that nonsense? GR is a generalisation of SR to include the
> effects of gravity. It is not a distinct theory. Sylvia.

You're a petrodollar.

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#375726

Fromjamesl51165@gmail.com
Date2016-02-06 15:48 -0800
Message-ID<8fe23bd1-242c-4ab3-bb84-ef30b21a60b5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375721
On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 3:17:31 PM UTC-8, Éibhear wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:

Atomic structure integrity would be violated if the train atom's change
size along the axis of motion. Molecular consistency order would now
be compromised... lopsided action would break down the order of the
small atoms in togetherness... problems of bond integrity are introduced.

Mitchell Raemsch


> >> And Paul, in your single statement you already did a couple of
> >> mistakes,
> >> and certainly also you have them in your hompage. SR predicts ZERO and
> >> two MAXIMA, let's see whether you know the location of these points.
> >>
> > SR is known not to apply in this situation because of the effects of
> > gravity. Sylvia.
> 
> Which reveals you are not aware of what is going on in physics, young 
> lady. Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR. In this 
> context SR is stronger than GR. Since GR may have various stochastic 
> interpretations, SR is, and will persist being about motion. You don't 
> understand physics, young lady.

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#375736

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-06 18:39 -0800
Message-ID<f19ee2a5-5c73-4a91-9bdb-b093e0e69615@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375721
On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 3:17:31 PM UTC-8, Éibhear wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> And Paul, in your single statement you already did a couple of
> >> mistakes,
> >> and certainly also you have them in your hompage. SR predicts ZERO and
> >> two MAXIMA, let's see whether you know the location of these points.
> >>
> > SR is known not to apply in this situation because of the effects of
> > gravity. Sylvia.
> 
> Which reveals you are not aware of what is going on in physics, young 
> lady. Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.

You are confused. GR encompasses SR, therefore from the theoretical, absolute, point
of view only GR is ever needed (not just in GPS but in the entirety of physics).

Pure SR cannot be applied in GPS because of the presence of gravity. But
_in computational practice_ one can separate (as an approximation) the time difference
into two components which are typically (and rather incorrectly) referred to as "the SR 
component" and "the GR component".

> In this 
> context SR is stronger than GR. Since GR may have various stochastic 
> interpretations, SR is, and will persist being about motion. You don't 
> understand physics, young lady.

Got a mirror in the house? :-)

--
Jan

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#375743

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2016-02-07 10:11 +0100
Message-ID<n971o8$4vh$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#375736

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:f19ee2a5-5c73-4a91-9bdb-b093e0e69615@googlegroups.com...


|Pure SR cannot be applied in GPS because of the presence of gravity.

And the second reason is that  revolutionary concepts of The Shit
are practically useless. 

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#375757

Fromˌsōlər ˈpleksəs <solar@plexus.org>
Date2016-02-07 19:34 +0000
Message-ID<n9868q$pmb$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375736
JanPB wrote:

>> > SR is known not to apply in this situation because of the effects of
>> > gravity. Sylvia.
>> 
>> Which reveals you are not aware of what is going on in physics, young
>> lady. Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
> 
> You are confused. GR encompasses SR, therefore from the theoretical,
> absolute, point of view only GR is ever needed (not just in GPS but in
> the entirety of physics).

He is not confused. Can't you read what she said, that SR does not apply 
because of GR. In which case you not that are confused, you are not even 
parallel.

Encompasses, what encompasses. You are confusing an equation and a set of 
lemma with the real stuff taking place in Nature, here the motion of GPS 
satellites. You are not saying that those satellites are not in motion as 
being encompassed by GR, are you?

I'll remind you that all in Nature works in super-positioning fashion. 
Here apparently the motion, governed by SR, and curvature of spacetime, 
governed by GR. Didactically you are advised to keep them separate, not 
convoluted into each other.

> Pure SR cannot be applied in GPS because of the presence of gravity. But

Seemingly you don't understand this subject well enough.

> _in computational practice_ one can separate (as an approximation) the
> time difference into two components which are typically (and rather
> incorrectly) referred to as "the SR component" and "the GR component".

See, this is because those are correct, not incorrect.

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#375766

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-07 14:04 -0800
Message-ID<d05b8ee6-233d-471f-81bd-c7faa393fbdb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375757
On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 11:35:00 AM UTC-8, ˌsōlər ˈpleksəs wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> 
> >> > SR is known not to apply in this situation because of the effects of
> >> > gravity. Sylvia.
> >> 
> >> Which reveals you are not aware of what is going on in physics, young
> >> lady. Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
> > 
> > You are confused. GR encompasses SR, therefore from the theoretical,
> > absolute, point of view only GR is ever needed (not just in GPS but in
> > the entirety of physics).
> 
> He is not confused. Can't you read what she said, that SR does not apply 
> because of GR. In which case you not that are confused, you are not even 
> parallel.

I recommend you enroll in a reading comprehension course. I'm not going to repeat
myself, just reread the thread carefully.

> Encompasses, what encompasses. You are confusing an equation and a set of 
> lemma with the real stuff taking place in Nature, here the motion of GPS 
> satellites.

Not worth my time.

--
Jan

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#375774

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2016-02-08 09:12 +0100
Message-ID<n99ilh$t4g$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#375757
On 07.02.2016 20:34, ˌsōlər ˈpleksəs wrote:
 > []

It doesn't help to change your name,
the trolling idiot is recognized anyway.

plonk

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#375737

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2016-02-06 21:57 -0600
Message-ID<ybidnfbofYM_XSvLnZ2dnUU7_8ydnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#375721
On 2/6/16 2/6/16   5:17 PM, Éibhear wrote:
> Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.

And GR doesn't. GR includes all effects of SR, and also includes the effects of 
gravity. Indeed, in the Minkowski spacetime of SR, GR is identical to SR. But GR 
applies in many other manifolds as well, including those with gravity. In the 
context of this sub-discussion, the GPS, SR simply does not apply, as Ms. Else said.


> In this
> context SR is stronger than GR. Since GR may have various stochastic
> interpretations, SR is, and will persist being about motion.

This is all nonsense.


> You don't
> understand physics, young lady.

What she said is correct. It is YOU who doesn't understand physics. Or common 
courtesy.


Tom Roberts

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#375779

FromΚαλυψώ <calipso214@hotmail.com>
Date2016-02-08 15:33 +0000
Message-ID<n9acfg$1roi$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375737
Tom Roberts :

> On 2/6/16 2/6/16   5:17 PM, Éibhear wrote:
>> Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
> 
> And GR doesn't. GR includes all effects of SR, and also includes the
> effects of gravity. 

Talk is cheap. Show.

> Indeed, in the Minkowski spacetime of SR, GR is
> identical to SR. But GR applies in many other manifolds as well,
> including those with gravity. In the context of this sub-discussion, the
> GPS, SR simply does not apply, as Ms. Else said.

You contradict yourself. First you say is INCLUDED. Than that "simply does 
not apply", as it is not included. Choose an statement and stay with it. 
Contradicting statements are counter-productive.

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#375788

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-08 09:16 -0800
Message-ID<6327e60f-76a9-48ca-bd49-603acb2e99c9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375779
On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 7:33:13 AM UTC-8, Καλυψώ wrote:
> Tom Roberts :
> 
> > On 2/6/16 2/6/16   5:17 PM, Éibhear wrote:
> >> Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
> > 
> > And GR doesn't. GR includes all effects of SR, and also includes the
> > effects of gravity. 
> 
> Talk is cheap. Show.

There is nothing to show, this is a basic fact about the structure and
relationship of both theories. It's analogous to saying the law of cosines 
includes the Pythagorean theorem.

--
Jan

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#375789

FromHeiðr Einherjar <einherjar@notformail.org>
Date2016-02-08 17:24 +0000
Message-ID<n9aj14$8oe$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#375788
Il giorno JanPB ha scritto

> On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 7:33:13 AM UTC-8, Καλυψώ wrote:
>> Tom Roberts :
>> 
>> > On 2/6/16 2/6/16   5:17 PM, Éibhear wrote:
>> >> Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
>> > 
>> > And GR doesn't. GR includes all effects of SR, and also includes the
>> > effects of gravity.
>> 
>> Talk is cheap. Show.
> 
> There is nothing to show, this is a basic fact about the structure and
> relationship of both theories. It's analogous to saying the law of
> cosines includes the Pythagorean theorem.

Those things are not even related in any way. Once you have a theory 
including two distinct things, basic mathematics and super-positioning 
says that nullifying a one will exteriorize the other. Similar to partial 
differential equations, something I pretend you know.

Apollo Lunar Lander Exhaust? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksh8qyszLL8

LRO, Laser Retroreflector Oddity 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz09H_qwQ-U

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#375790

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2016-02-08 18:25 +0100
Message-ID<n9aj25$mt9$1@node1.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#375788

Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:6327e60f-76a9-48ca-bd49-603acb2e99c9@googlegroups.com...

On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 7:33:13 AM UTC-8, Καλυψώ wrote:
> Tom Roberts :
>
> > On 2/6/16 2/6/16   5:17 PM, Éibhear wrote:
> >> Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
> >
> > And GR doesn't. GR includes all effects of SR, and also includes the
> > effects of gravity.

And, as it's inconsistent, also includes and can prove any
statement. 

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#375808

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-09 11:24 +1100
Message-ID<dhspulFlfjrU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#375790
On 9/02/2016 4:25 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
>
> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:6327e60f-76a9-48ca-bd49-603acb2e99c9@googlegroups.com...
>
> On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 7:33:13 AM UTC-8, Καλυψώ wrote:
>> Tom Roberts :
>>
>> > On 2/6/16 2/6/16   5:17 PM, Éibhear wrote:
>> >> Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
>> >
>> > And GR doesn't. GR includes all effects of SR, and also includes the
>> > effects of gravity.
>
> And, as it's inconsistent, also includes and can prove any
> statement.

Inconsistent? Where is it inconsistent?

Sylvia.

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#375818

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-02-08 22:53 -0800
Message-ID<1fb6c080-94f2-4aac-81f0-86b72b9cdb2b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375808
W dniu wtorek, 9 lutego 2016 01:24:56 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> On 9/02/2016 4:25 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> >
> >
> > Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> > dyskusyjnych:6327e60f-76a9-48ca-bd49-603acb2e99c9@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 7:33:13 AM UTC-8, Καλυψώ wrote:
> >> Tom Roberts :
> >>
> >> > On 2/6/16 2/6/16   5:17 PM, Éibhear wrote:
> >> >> Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
> >> >
> >> > And GR doesn't. GR includes all effects of SR, and also includes the
> >> > effects of gravity.
> >
> > And, as it's inconsistent, also includes and can prove any
> > statement.
> 
> Inconsistent? Where is it inconsistent?
> 
> Sylvia.

Take a closer look at Your gurus mumbling about these
famous black holes. Somehow, they tend to deny each other...
don't they?

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#375832

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-09 23:02 +1100
Message-ID<dhu2qgFanpU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#375818
On 9/02/2016 5:53 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 9 lutego 2016 01:24:56 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>> On 9/02/2016 4:25 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
>>> dyskusyjnych:6327e60f-76a9-48ca-bd49-603acb2e99c9@googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 7:33:13 AM UTC-8, Καλυψώ wrote:
>>>> Tom Roberts :
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/6/16 2/6/16   5:17 PM, Éibhear wrote:
>>>>>> Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
>>>>>
>>>>> And GR doesn't. GR includes all effects of SR, and also includes the
>>>>> effects of gravity.
>>>
>>> And, as it's inconsistent, also includes and can prove any
>>> statement.
>>
>> Inconsistent? Where is it inconsistent?
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Take a closer look at Your gurus mumbling about these
> famous black holes. Somehow, they tend to deny each other...
> don't they?
>
>

Even if they do, that doesn't make the theory inconsistent.

Sylvia.

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#375838

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2016-02-09 04:43 -0800
Message-ID<8e7151c1-20e1-4835-8057-df26ac7a4e68@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#375832
W dniu wtorek, 9 lutego 2016 13:02:26 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> On 9/02/2016 5:53 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > W dniu wtorek, 9 lutego 2016 01:24:56 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
> >> On 9/02/2016 4:25 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Użytkownik "JanPB"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> >>> dyskusyjnych:6327e60f-76a9-48ca-bd49-603acb2e99c9@googlegroups.com...
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 7:33:13 AM UTC-8, Καλυψώ wrote:
> >>>> Tom Roberts :
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2/6/16 2/6/16   5:17 PM, Éibhear wrote:
> >>>>>> Nothing in the entire world may cancel the effects of SR.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And GR doesn't. GR includes all effects of SR, and also includes the
> >>>>> effects of gravity.
> >>>
> >>> And, as it's inconsistent, also includes and can prove any
> >>> statement.
> >>
> >> Inconsistent? Where is it inconsistent?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > Take a closer look at Your gurus mumbling about these
> > famous black holes. Somehow, they tend to deny each other...
> > don't they?
> >
> >
> 
> Even if they do, that doesn't make the theory inconsistent.

Yes, statements denying each other are making
the theory inconsistent.
What else?

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