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  How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-12 08:10 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 10:17 -0600
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-01-12 10:37 -0600
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 08:44 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-01-13 20:14 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 07:48 -0800
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-01-14 08:01 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-14 11:47 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-01-12 17:36 +0100
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-01-12 17:25 +0000
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? "walkslaone" <no@one.here> - 2016-01-12 12:24 -0600
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2016-01-13 05:00 -0800
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2016-01-13 13:53 -0600
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-01-15 08:44 -0500
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 08:43 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-01-12 12:31 -0600
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2016-01-13 04:28 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 04:33 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 05:22 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 06:45 -0800
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 07:08 -0800
            Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 08:43 -0800
              Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 09:52 -0800
                Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 10:03 -0800
                  Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 10:19 -0800
                    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 10:35 -0800
                      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 10:51 -0800
                        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 11:08 -0800
                          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 11:25 -0800
                            Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 11:31 -0800
                              Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 11:40 -0800
                                Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 11:55 -0800
                                  Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 11:58 -0800
                                    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 12:07 -0800
                                      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 12:27 -0800
                                        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 13:03 -0800
                                          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 13:16 -0800
                                            Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 13:33 -0800
                                              Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 13:47 -0800
                                                Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-14 00:25 +0000
                                                Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 19:38 -0800
                                                  Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 04:48 -0800
                                                    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-01-14 05:12 -0800
                                                    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 07:44 -0800
                                                      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 07:54 -0800
                    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-01-13 19:46 +0100
            Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 08:49 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-14 11:07 +1100
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 19:17 -0500
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-14 16:23 +1100
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-14 00:32 +0000
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-14 00:34 +0000
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-14 00:44 +0000
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2016-01-14 12:51 +1100
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 18:37 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-01-14 04:49 -0700
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-14 11:49 -0800
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-01-15 00:58 -0600
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-14 16:27 +1100
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-13 22:21 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-13 22:09 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-13 22:40 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-13 22:49 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-14 12:12 -0800
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-01-14 19:41 -0800
          Re: How Did God Create The Universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-14 22:12 -0800
            Re: How Did God Create The Universe? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-01-15 08:17 -0800
    Re: How Did God Create The Universe? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-01-14 08:09 -0800
      Re: How Did God Create The Universe? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 08:18 -0800
        Re: How Did God Create The Universe? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-01-14 08:36 -0800

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#373888

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 2:47:48 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:

> You have some of the characteristics of ...

So since I utterly invalidated your idiotic insane proposition that Gods exist, you continue to ramble on about aliens which are absolutely irrelevant no matter how advanced because the topic isn't about aliens which aren't omni anything and as such don't fit the definition, but is about a God, and continue to ramble on complete irrelevance about "my characteristics". So you lost the argument. Get over it.

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#373920

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 8:38:36 PM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
>
> [The same old stupid, false regurgitations]

You are sounding more mentally-disturbed by the day

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#373925

W dniu czwartek, 14 stycznia 2016 13:48:57 UTC+1 użytkownik Gary Harnagel napisał:
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 8:38:36 PM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
> >
> > [The same old stupid, false regurgitations]
> 
> You are sounding more mentally-disturbed by the day


"When you point your finger at someone, anyone, it is often a moment of
judgement. We point our fingers when we want to scold someone, point
out what they have done wrong. But each time we point, we simultaneously
point three fingers back at ourselves." - Christopher Pike

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#373941

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 5:48:57 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> You are sounding more mentally-disturbed by the day

So I utterly invalidated your idiotic and insane proposition that Gods exist, so you made false accusations, complained about my behaviors, then rambled on about irrelevant aliens, and are back to accusations again. All because you don't have a valid argument and are mad that I utterly invalidated your proposition. You were wrong. Just get over it.

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#373944

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 8:44:16 AM UTC-7, David Waite wrote:
>
> [And even more regurgitated nonsensical delusional lies]

I read some of your posts in previous times and you seemed to have your
head screwed on right, but now you have destroyed all of that with your
mindless, repetitious, dishonest rants.  I'm very disappointed.

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#373839

Użytkownik "Gary Harnagel"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:86465203-f345-438b-98ac-aaad9a669b92@googlegroups.com...

|"Discussion is always better than argument, because argument is to
|find WHO is right and discussion is to find WHAT is right." - Anon.

Well, that means discussion is a sure waste of time, as everybody
knows, that The Shit is right.

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#373826

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 8:08:42 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
>...

Oh and by the way, what little we have figured out about the universe shows us that Gods can't exist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWQvf3-mQoY
and no yours doesn't any more than any of the others.

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#373869

On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> How Did God Create The Universe?
>
> This is a question everybody seems to
> want to know...

I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did 
not create the universe.

Sylvia.

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#373870

On 01/13/2016 07:07 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>
>> This is a question everybody seems to
>> want to know...
>
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.
>
> Sylvia.
>
Well, Shit! "Sylvia" is "pretty sure" that there is no God and I think 
that pretty much settles it for everybody, right?

Well everybody except thinkers. The supposition is that any "God" would 
be outside of time. Hence the entire question of any "Creation" is total 
nonsense.  I think it was starfaker, or maybe Rolf, who likened the 
universe and "God's" view of it as to a large roll of video tape where 
you've spliced the beginning to then end. We see the tape as it plays 
and take it to be "life" and our "universe". God however, being outside 
of time sees the entire roll in it's entirety where "our" time is 
irrelevant to that view.

-- 

       ___           ___           ___            ___
      /\  \         /\  \         /\__\          /\  \
     /::\  \       /::\  \       /::|  |         \:\  \
    /:/\:\  \     /:/\:\  \     /:|:|  |     ___ /::\__\
   /::\~\:\__\   /::\~\:\  \   /:/|:|  |__  /\  /:/\/__/
  /:/\:\ \:|__| /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\ \:\/:/  /
  \:\~\:\/:/  / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/  /  \::/  /
   \:\ \::/  /   \:\ \:\__\       |:/:/  /    \/__/
    \:\/:/  /     \:\ \/__/       |::/  /
     \::/__/       \:\__\         /:/  /
      ~~            \/__/         \/__/

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#373898

On 14/01/2016 11:17 AM, benj wrote:
> On 01/13/2016 07:07 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>>
>>> This is a question everybody seems to
>>> want to know...
>>
>> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
>> not create the universe.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
> Well, Shit! "Sylvia" is "pretty sure" that there is no God and I think
> that pretty much settles it for everybody, right?
>
> Well everybody except thinkers. The supposition is that any "God" would
> be outside of time. Hence the entire question of any "Creation" is total
> nonsense.  I think it was starfaker, or maybe Rolf, who likened the
> universe and "God's" view of it as to a large roll of video tape where
> you've spliced the beginning to then end. We see the tape as it plays
> and take it to be "life" and our "universe". God however, being outside
> of time sees the entire roll in it's entirety where "our" time is
> irrelevant to that view.
>

I think you've rather missed the point. The OP's assertion was that 
"everybody seems to want to know." I was merely providing a counter-example.

Sylvia.

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#373874

reber g=emc^2 wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 4:07:38 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > How Did God Create The Universe?
>> >
>> > This is a question everybody seems to want to know...
>> 
>> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore
>> did not create the universe.

Hmmm, give us a free miracle, Big Bang, then we'll explain the rest.

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#373875

Sylvia Else wrote:

> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>
>> This is a question everybody seems to want to know...
> 
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.

A limited case of credibility. If you believe that you can believe 
everything.

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#373876

Carmine Portacio wrote:

> Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
>> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>>
>>> This is a question everybody seems to want to know...
>> 
>> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore
>> did not create the universe.
> 
> A limited case of credibility. If you believe that you can believe
> everything.

credulity, of course. If you can swallow that, you can swallow everything.

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#373878

On 2016-Jan-14 11:07, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>
>> This is a question everybody seems to
>> want to know...
> 
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.

Ah, but there's plenty of documentation to show that the universe was
created multiple times, in many different ways, by many different gods.

-- 
Peter Moylan                           http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

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#373879

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 6:51:23 PM UTC-7, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
> On 2016-Jan-14 11:07, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >
> > On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > How Did God Create The Universe?
> > >
> > > This is a question everybody seems to
> > > want to know...
> > 
> > I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> > not create the universe.

I think it is possible that God can be an emergent property of the
universe AND have created it.  It all depends on your assumptions.

> Ah, but there's plenty of documentation to show that the universe was
> created multiple times, in many different ways, by many different gods.
> 
> -- 
> Peter Moylan                           http://www.pmoylan.org
> Newcastle, NSW, Australia

Do you have this "documentation" available to share?

Gary

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#373914

Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 2016-Jan-14 11:07, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>>
>>> This is a question everybody seems to
>>> want to know...
>> 
>> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
>> not create the universe.
>
>Ah, but there's plenty of documentation to show that the universe was
>created multiple times, in many different ways, by many different gods.

I used to be a corporate programmer.  The documentation never does
match the actual project.
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#373973

Greg Goss wrote:
> 
> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >On 2016-Jan-14 11:07, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> How Did God Create The Universe?
> >>>
> >>> This is a question everybody seems to
> >>> want to know...
> >>
> >> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> >> not create the universe.
> >
> >Ah, but there's plenty of documentation to show that the universe was
> >created multiple times, in many different ways, by many different gods.
> 
> I used to be a corporate programmer.  The documentation never does
> match the actual project.



Who reads documentations anymore?


I'm up and running!


I can fly an airplane....i don't need a manual.

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#374036

On 2016-01-14, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>Ah, but there's plenty of documentation to show that the universe was
>>created multiple times, in many different ways, by many different gods.
>
> I used to be a corporate programmer.  The documentation never does
> match the actual project.

And, to boot, new discoveries and postulations force the uncountably infinite
numbers of spirits that form the mythic background FOR the universe to retcon
so that This Was Always so, so the origin's changing every so often as well.
By the end of the War in Heaven, its beginning may well have become totally
unrecognizable.

Dave, and this doesn't even take into account the various discussions going on
 OUTSIDE Creation in sundry ways
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/	-net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#373899

On 14/01/2016 11:07 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> How Did God Create The Universe?
>>
>> This is a question everybody seems to
>> want to know...
>
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.
>
> Sylvia.
>

Sheesh - they're all at it. Guys - you really need to read, and think, 
rather then getting all hot and bothered about an issue I'm not 
discussing at all.

I'm not saying anything about God. I'm saying something about me, 
because I'm a person, and therefore part of "everybody". The OP's 
assertion (notwithstanding the weasel word "seems") is false, because I 
am a counter-example.

Sylvia.

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#373901

Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> On 13/01/2016 3:10 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > How Did God Create The Universe?
> >
> > This is a question everybody seems to
> > want to know...
> 
> I don't. I'm pretty sure that there is no God, and that He therefore did
> not create the universe.
> 
> Sylvia.


Richard Dawkins is not pretty sure, he's unsure. How can you
be..."pretty sure"???

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