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  Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-12 20:24 +0000
    Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-12 20:54 +0000
      Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-13 16:27 +0000
      Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-13 08:38 -0800
        Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-13 17:58 +0000
          Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-13 13:59 -0800
            Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-13 22:51 +0000
              Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-13 14:56 -0800
                Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-13 23:05 +0000
                  Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-13 15:15 -0800
                    Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-13 23:23 +0000
          Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 16:50 -0800
            Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 15:31 +0000
              Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 13:03 -0800
                Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 22:24 +0000
                  Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 15:07 -0800
                    Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 23:56 +0000
                  Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 16:08 -0800
                    Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 00:27 +0000
                      Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 19:49 -0800
                        Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-18 10:20 +0000
                        Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-18 10:21 +0000
                          Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 03:45 -0800
                            Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-18 17:51 +0000
      Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-13 15:10 -0800
        Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-13 23:26 +0000
          Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-13 15:32 -0800
            Re: Chinese Rover finds no evidence for the moon-landing Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-14 06:47 +0100
              Re: Chinese Rover finds no evidence for the moon-landing pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-13 22:07 -0800
                Re: Chinese Rover finds no evidence for the moon-landing Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 16:42 +0000
            Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 16:35 +0000
        Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 10:40 -0600
          Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 16:48 +0000
            Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-14 10:11 -0800
              Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 18:32 +0000
                Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-14 12:02 -0800
                  Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 20:39 +0000
                    Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-14 13:08 -0800
                      Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 21:22 +0000
                        Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-14 13:40 -0800
                          Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 22:06 +0000
                            Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-14 15:25 -0800
                              Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-15 15:43 +0000
                              Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-12-16 14:19 +0100
    Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-14 13:17 +1100
      Re: Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung Jason Wyome <jasonw@hotmail.org> - 2015-12-14 16:27 +0000

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#372296

JanPB wrote:

>> Just a minute my friend, I didn't said anything on one side or another.
>> I only said that I see no unrockable proofs. If you want me on your
>> side, show me some proofs. Until then, I am neutral to the issue. Thank
>> you very much.
> 
> I'm not neutral on idiocies.

:) You don't realize what you strictly just said.

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#372297

JanPB wrote:

>> Just a minute my friend, I didn't said anything on one side or another.
>> I only said that I see no unrockable proofs. If you want me on your
>> side, show me some proofs. Until then, I am neutral to the issue. Thank
>> you very much.
> 
> I'm not neutral on idiocies.

It's obvious.

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#372301

On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 7:21:16 AM UTC-3, Ezra Farrow wrote:
> JanPB wrote:
> 
> >> Just a minute my friend, I didn't said anything on one side or another.
> >> I only said that I see no unrockable proofs. If you want me on your
> >> side, show me some proofs. Until then, I am neutral to the issue. Thank
> >> you very much.
> > 
> > I'm not neutral on idiocies.
> 
> It's obvious.

Well, the polish and the nymshifting trolls make Kenseto and the late Androcles characters look as geniuses....

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#372320

paparios wrote:

> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 7:21:16 AM UTC-3, Ezra Farrow wrote:
>> JanPB wrote:
>> > I'm not neutral on idiocies.
>> 
>> It's obvious.
> 
> Well, the polish and the nymshifting trolls make Kenseto and the late
> Androcles characters look as geniuses....

Not you.

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#371964

On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 12:54:34 PM UTC-8, Plexippus Kritikos wrote:
> Il giorno mercoledì Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:24:07 +0000, Plexippus Kritikos
> <plexik@laertesegidio.org> ha scritto:
> 
> > I don't understand. Where are they?
> > Stealing aliens on Moon from other planets?
> > 
> > Chinese Rover findet keine Beweise für Mondlandung
> > http://www.oe24.at/welt/Rover-findet-keine-Beweise-fuer-Mondlandung/158854028
> 
> no flag no foot prints no macas wrappers anywhere......
> 
> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have 
> signed a petition asking explanations from the American government
> and the release of classified NASA information concerning the 
> American moon landings that would prove to the World that the moon
> landings were not an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the 
> World about America's space program capabilities."
> 
> Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence Of American Moon Landings
> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/

Also from this same webpage we have the following astounding stories, all of them undoubtedly completely true and factual!!!

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/electric-wheelchair-breaks-speed-of-sound/

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/astronaut-forgotten-on-moon-40-years-ago-found-alive/

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/isis-launches-new-communications-satellite-into-space/

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/ohio-woman-claims-she-fell-pregnant-from-defective-dildo/

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/man-killed-27-people-after-being-transplanted-heart-of-serial-killer/

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smoking-marijuana-could-help-fight-global-warming-says-study/

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#371968

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:

> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/electric-wheelchair-breaks-speed-of-sound/

This discussion is about reflectors.

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#371969

On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:26:27 PM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:
> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:
> 
> > http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/electric-wheelchair-breaks-speed-of-sound/
> 
> This discussion is about reflectors.

Actually, no, this discussion is about the Chinese claiming the USA was never on the moon. Go read the title of the post. You can read, right?

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#371986 — Re: Chinese Rover finds no evidence for the moon-landing

Am 14.12.2015 00:32, schrieb pnalsing@gmail.com:

>>
>>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/electric-wheelchair-breaks-speed-of-sound/
>>
>> This discussion is about reflectors.
>
> Actually, no, this discussion is about the Chinese claiming the USA was never on the moon. Go read the title of the post. You can read, right?

I changed the title to English. Possibly that would help.

It is kind of satiric 'pseudo-news'. But contains some truth.

Actually I would guess, it's wrong - nevertheless- since the Americans 
have been on the moon. But not with the Saturn V rocket, but with these 
'flying saucers', invented by the Nazis.

So the moon landing was not faked, but the evidence was a studio production.

The reason for such a fake is to create kind of uneasy feeing in the 
masses, called 'cognitive dissonance', what is a requirement for other 
fakery.

So people should see, the films are a fake, but cannot do anything about 
it. This would scare them and make them accept things, they otherwise 
wouldn't.

TH

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#371987 — Re: Chinese Rover finds no evidence for the moon-landing

On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 9:47:12 PM UTC-8, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 14.12.2015 00:32, schrieb pnal...@gmail.com:
> 
> >>
> >>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/electric-wheelchair-breaks-speed-of-sound/
> >>
> >> This discussion is about reflectors.
> >
> > Actually, no, this discussion is about the Chinese claiming the USA was never on the moon. Go read the title of the post. You can read, right?
> 
> I changed the title to English. Possibly that would help.
> 
> It is kind of satiric 'pseudo-news'. But contains some truth.
> 
> Actually I would guess, it's wrong - nevertheless- since the Americans 
> have been on the moon. But not with the Saturn V rocket, but with these 
> 'flying saucers', invented by the Nazis.
> 
> So the moon landing was not faked, but the evidence was a studio production.

If you, or anyone else, actually had proof of this you would be very famous. but you don't, no one does, and the proof is overwhelming. Why do you persist in such foolishness?

> The reason for such a fake is to create kind of uneasy feeing in the 
> masses, called 'cognitive dissonance', what is a requirement for other 
> fakery.

Clearly it is YOU who is suffering from 'cognitive dissonance', for why else you believe such nonsense.

> So people should see, the films are a fake, but cannot do anything about 
> it. This would scare them and make them accept things, they otherwise 
> wouldn't.

There is overwhelming evidence to the contrary, perhaps you are just too stupid to understand this.

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#372005 — Re: Chinese Rover finds no evidence for the moon-landing

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:

> If you, or anyone else, actually had proof of this you would be very
> famous. but you don't, no one does, and the proof is overwhelming. Why
> do you persist in such foolishness?

You must be kidding, panalsy. Or stupid. I opt for the later. Come up with 
your best "proof". Or you don't need one. Since you already know the truth.

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#372002

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:

> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 3:26:27 PM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:
>> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:
>> > http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/electric-wheelchair-breaks-speed-of-
sound/
>> 
>> This discussion is about reflectors.
> 
> Actually, no, this discussion is about the Chinese claiming the USA was
> never on the moon. Go read the title of the post. You can read, right?

Then show us, pnalsy,  how a reflector found in your backyard behind the 
bushes would be proof on anything.

Hmmm, moreover, to get a reflector reflecting light from moon, I just need 
to scan the moon's surface with a proper powerful laser. At least ONE rock 
out of the billions would reflect enough to suit my applications. I just 
need register its location in time and space. This is how we do it in 
Science and Physics.

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#372004

On 12/13/2015 5:10 PM, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:

>>
>> "200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have
>> signed a petition asking explanations from the American government
>> and the release of classified NASA information concerning the
>> American moon landings that would prove to the World that the moon
>> landings were not an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the
>> World about America's space program capabilities."
>>
>> Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence Of American Moon Landings
>> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>
> Also from this same webpage we have the following astounding stories, all of them undoubtedly completely true and factual!!!
>
> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/electric-wheelchair-breaks-speed-of-sound/
>
> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/astronaut-forgotten-on-moon-40-years-ago-found-alive/
>
> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/isis-launches-new-communications-satellite-into-space/
>
> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/ohio-woman-claims-she-fell-pregnant-from-defective-dildo/
>
> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/man-killed-27-people-after-being-transplanted-heart-of-serial-killer/
>
> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smoking-marijuana-could-help-fight-global-warming-says-study/

And of course, we all owe some thanks to John Sefton for bringing 
supermarket tabloids to a science discussion group. John serves the 
function of this group of being the lady in curlers and house slippers, 
who mumbles over the background of the Jerry Springer show that she's 
not convinced of anything scientists claim, and that until one of them 
solves the problem of those damn dogs pulling out her garbage, then 
they're of no use to her.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#372007

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Odd Bodkin wrote:

> And of course, we all owe some thanks to John Sefton for bringing
> supermarket tabloids to a science discussion group. John serves the
> [snip crap]

Chinese lunar rover finds no evidence of American moon landings
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2013/12/19/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/

"A report from the Chinese state news agency Xinhua has confirmed 
that China’s mission to the moon hasn’t found a single scrap of 
evidence that Americans were ever there."

Citing the source, botkin. Are you expecting to read this, where?

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#372018

On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 8:48:19 AM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:
> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> > And of course, we all owe some thanks to John Sefton for bringing
> > supermarket tabloids to a science discussion group. John serves the
> > [snip crap]
> 
> Chinese lunar rover finds no evidence of American moon landings
> http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2013/12/19/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
> 
> "A report from the Chinese state news agency Xinhua has confirmed 
> that China’s mission to the moon hasn’t found a single scrap of 
> evidence that Americans were ever there."
> 
> Citing the source, botkin. Are you expecting to read this, where?

Also citing the source, you idiot...

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/about/

"NewsBiscuit still needs a limitless supply of free labour to oil the satirical cogs. And so, under the pretence of providing an outlet on the web for aspiring comedy writers, NewsBiscuit encourages outside contributors to submit stories and one-liners to its Writers’ Room, a form of wiki comedy writing that draws on the best principles of both David Cameron’s Big Society and outsourcing to Far East sweatshops."

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#372020

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:

>> Citing the source, botkin. Are you expecting to read this, where?
> 
> Also citing the source, you idiot...

Where did they say otherwise? Pictures, anything? :) 

Russia suggests America has NEVER landed on the moon and calls for 
'an investigation into what really happened'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3130017/Russian-official-demands-investigation-really-happened-moon-landing-original-footage-disappeared.html

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#372025

On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 10:32:13 AM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:
> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:
> 
> >> Citing the source, botkin. Are you expecting to read this, where?
> > 
> > Also citing the source, you idiot...
> 
> Where did they say otherwise? Pictures, anything? :) 
> 
> Russia suggests America has NEVER landed on the moon and calls for 
> 'an investigation into what really happened'
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3130017/Russian-official-demands-investigation-really-happened-moon-landing-original-footage-disappeared.html

ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/pao/media/2001/lunar_landing.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBVlxPvqsTY

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/apollohoax.html

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/02/15/moon-hoax-10/#.Vm8fmpDisUQ

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#372026

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:

> ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/pao/media/2001/lunar_landing.pdf
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBVlxPvqsTY

Yes, thanks. I don't understand a lander without having a crater under it. 
Please make me believe.

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#372029

On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 12:39:26 PM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:
> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:
> 
> > ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/pao/media/2001/lunar_landing.pdf
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBVlxPvqsTY
> 
> Yes, thanks. I don't understand a lander without having a crater under it. 
> Please make me believe.

You didn't read that first paper?

"(1) Although the descent engine on the LM is powerful, most of its operation takes place thousands of feet above the Moon during the early stages of the landing. Because the lunar atmosphere is a near-perfect vacuum, no air currents are set up that would scour the surface at a distance as might occur during a landing on Earth. Movies of the landing show that, at the moment of touchdown, a small amount of surface dust is blown away, but the relatively cohesive lunar surface
seems to deflect the blast sideways, rather than developing a crater directly underneath the LM.

(2) The lunar soil is not a fluffy dust but a moderately dense and cohesive material somewhat like wet sand or ploughed farm soil. Therefore, it is not surprising that the LM engine did not excavate a crater.

The lunar surface, in fact, turned out to be much more dense, compact, and resistant to penetration than some scientists originally thought."

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#372032

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:

> "(1) Although the descent engine on the LM is powerful, most of its
> operation takes place thousands of feet above the Moon during the early
> stages of the landing. Because the lunar atmosphere is a near-perfect
> vacuum, no air currents are set up that would scour the surface at a
> distance as might occur during a landing on Earth. Movies of the landing
> show that, at the moment of touchdown, a small amount of surface dust is
> blown away, but the relatively cohesive lunar surface seems to deflect
> the blast sideways, rather than developing a crater directly underneath
> the LM.
> (2) The lunar soil is not a fluffy dust but a moderately dense and
> cohesive material somewhat like wet sand or ploughed farm soil.
> Therefore,
> it is not surprising that the LM engine did not excavate a crater.
> The lunar surface, in fact, turned out to be much more dense, compact,
> and resistant to penetration than some scientists originally thought."

A free-body diagram equating forces shows that a crater formation should 
take place. Disregard how small or soil particularity and directions. I 
see no any.

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#372033

On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 1:22:25 PM UTC-8, Jason Wyome wrote:
> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) pnalsing wrote:
> 
> > "(1) Although the descent engine on the LM is powerful, most of its
> > operation takes place thousands of feet above the Moon during the early
> > stages of the landing. Because the lunar atmosphere is a near-perfect
> > vacuum, no air currents are set up that would scour the surface at a
> > distance as might occur during a landing on Earth. Movies of the landing
> > show that, at the moment of touchdown, a small amount of surface dust is
> > blown away, but the relatively cohesive lunar surface seems to deflect
> > the blast sideways, rather than developing a crater directly underneath
> > the LM.
> > (2) The lunar soil is not a fluffy dust but a moderately dense and
> > cohesive material somewhat like wet sand or ploughed farm soil.
> > Therefore,
> > it is not surprising that the LM engine did not excavate a crater.
> > The lunar surface, in fact, turned out to be much more dense, compact,
> > and resistant to penetration than some scientists originally thought."
> 
> A free-body diagram equating forces shows that a crater formation should 
> take place. Disregard how small or soil particularity and directions. I 
> see no any.

Show your work, your word has no authority.

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