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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2023-06-22 11:00 -0700 |
| Last post | 2023-06-22 20:29 -0500 |
| Articles | 17 on this page of 77 — 19 participants |
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Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 11:00 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:02 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:26 -0700
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 12:29 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:32 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:47 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:54 -0700
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 13:02 -0700
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 13:08 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 13:18 -0700
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 13:33 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 13:36 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 23:24 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 10:53 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 11:39 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 11:43 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 13:30 -0700
Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 13:38 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 14:04 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 14:16 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 14:40 -0700
Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:52 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 16:00 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 23:04 -0500
Re: Missing Sub whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-24 00:10 -0500
Re: Missing Sub George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 23:19 -0700
Re: Missing Sub George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 18:21 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Ed Lucas <aaca@ccecasud.lc> - 2023-07-02 12:10 +0000
Re: Missing Sub Castro Alexandropoulos <drer@anaprpll.dp> - 2023-07-06 20:22 +0000
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-02 15:27 -0700
Re: Missing Sub George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 01:33 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Normand Calogerakis <seom@srlaosao.ea> - 2023-07-06 09:01 +0000
Re: Missing Sub Gaylord Geracimos <gagr@llslelgm.mi> - 2023-07-06 09:28 +0000
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 09:47 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 13:40 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 17:26 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 17:33 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 20:22 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-07 11:48 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 04:43 -0500
Re: Missing Sub whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-24 09:16 -0500
Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-15 23:50 -0500
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-24 10:19 -0700
Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 13:56 -0700
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 15:20 -0700
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 12:32 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:50 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-06-23 15:43 +1000
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 23:10 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-06-23 16:15 +1000
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 23:43 -0700
Re: Missing Sub JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 16:24 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-02 18:55 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-03 10:24 -0700
Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-03 14:40 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Yak <Yak@inbox.com> - 2023-06-22 15:39 -0400
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 12:52 -0700
Re: Missing Sub whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-22 15:46 -0500
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 17:32 -0700
Re: Missing Sub whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-22 20:32 -0500
Re: Missing Sub Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> - 2023-06-23 02:09 +0000
Re: Missing Sub Yak <Yak@inbox.com> - 2023-06-23 08:34 -0400
Re: Missing Sub Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> - 2023-06-23 13:02 +0000
Re: Missing Sub Yak <Yak@inbox.com> - 2023-06-23 09:34 -0400
Re: Missing Sub Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2023-06-23 10:39 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 19:48 -0400
Re: Missing Sub Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2023-06-23 17:30 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> - 2023-06-24 00:38 +0000
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-23 17:52 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> - 2023-06-24 01:44 +0000
Re: Missing Sub Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> - 2023-06-24 01:59 +0000
Re: Missing Sub Robert Youngdale <another.jaques@idiot> - 2023-06-23 19:03 -0700
Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 13:10 -0700
Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 13:16 -0700
Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 11:38 -0700
Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 19:36 -0500
Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 20:29 -0500
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 02:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB02BD6D9627C2noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.50> |
| In reply to | #613470 |
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:u7280q$3ba0u$1@dont-email.me:
> On 6/22/2023 2:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> It doesn't have a toilet?
>>
>>
>> It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free shipping)
>>
>>
>>
>> Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing???
>>
>>
>> an Xbox contoller makes it go left?
>>
>>
>> no fat people allowed in dat thing, right?
>>
>>
>> don't lean on the window...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> The real question is who will be the first liberal congresscritter to
> stick his/her fat nose into this and demand regulation?
>
Regulation by whom?
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| From | Yak <Yak@inbox.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 08:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <u743gj$3nlff$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #613510 |
On 6/22/2023 10:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote: > Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:u7280q$3ba0u$1@dont-email.me: > >> On 6/22/2023 2:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> It doesn't have a toilet? >>> >>> >>> It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free shipping) >>> >>> >>> >>> Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing??? >>> >>> >>> an Xbox contoller makes it go left? >>> >>> >>> no fat people allowed in dat thing, right? >>> >>> >>> don't lean on the window... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> The real question is who will be the first liberal congresscritter to >> stick his/her fat nose into this and demand regulation? >> > > > Regulation by whom? Take a wild freaking guess.
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 13:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB02C517ADC80Anoemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.52> |
| In reply to | #613523 |
Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:u743gj$3nlff$1@dont-email.me:
> On 6/22/2023 10:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:u7280q$3ba0u$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 6/22/2023 2:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> It doesn't have a toilet?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free
>>>> shipping)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> an Xbox contoller makes it go left?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> no fat people allowed in dat thing, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> don't lean on the window...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The real question is who will be the first liberal congresscritter
>>> to stick his/her fat nose into this and demand regulation?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Regulation by whom?
>
> Take a wild freaking guess.
>
This is in international waters, dimbulb.
So again, regulation by whom?
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| From | Yak <Yak@inbox.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 09:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <u7471k$3nlff$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #613524 |
On 6/23/2023 9:02 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote: > Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:u743gj$3nlff$1@dont-email.me: > >> On 6/22/2023 10:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:u7280q$3ba0u$1@dont-email.me: >>> >>>> On 6/22/2023 2:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> It doesn't have a toilet? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free >>>>> shipping) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> an Xbox contoller makes it go left? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> no fat people allowed in dat thing, right? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> don't lean on the window... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> The real question is who will be the first liberal congresscritter >>>> to stick his/her fat nose into this and demand regulation? >>>> >>> >>> >>> Regulation by whom? >> >> Take a wild freaking guess. >> > > > This is in international waters, dimbulb. > > So again, regulation by whom? By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site.
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| From | Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 10:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <wPklM.5930$a0G8.3896@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #613525 |
On 6/23/2023 6:34 AM, Yak wrote: > On 6/23/2023 9:02 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote: >> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:u743gj$3nlff$1@dont-email.me: >> >>> On 6/22/2023 10:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:u7280q$3ba0u$1@dont-email.me: >>>> >>>>> On 6/22/2023 2:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> It doesn't have a toilet? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free >>>>>> shipping) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing??? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> an Xbox contoller makes it go left? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> no fat people allowed in dat thing, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> don't lean on the window... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The real question is who will be the first liberal congresscritter >>>>> to stick his/her fat nose into this and demand regulation? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regulation by whom? >>> >>> Take a wild freaking guess. >>> >> >> >> This is in international waters, dimbulb. >> >> So again, regulation by whom? > > By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site. Bull-fucking-shit. Congress does not regulate travel to the Titanic site, you stupid fucked-up-the-ass-by-priests liar. The Titanic shipwreck debris field is protected by international convention, but you can steer your little 6hp putt-putt boat directly over the site without anyone's permission, and there is no U.S. law regulating that.
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 19:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5mbc9idtdk6udlhhpqnur039rg02b0i4cc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #613525 |
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:34:44 -0400, Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote: >On 6/23/2023 9:02 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote: >> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote >>> On 6/22/2023 10:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>> Yak <Yak@inbox.com> wrote >>>>> On 6/22/2023 2:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> It doesn't have a toilet? >>>>>> It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free >>>>>> shipping) >>>>>> Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing??? >>>>>> an Xbox contoller makes it go left? >>>>>> no fat people allowed in dat thing, right? >>>>>> don't lean on the window... >>>>> The real question is who will be the first liberal congresscritter >>>>> to stick his/her fat nose into this and demand regulation? >>>> Regulation by whom? >>> Take a wild freaking guess. >> This is in international waters, dimbulb. >> So again, regulation by whom? > >By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site. Cite the law. Congress has no jurisdiction. Titanic is in international waters. Swill -- Reality is an acquired taste - Matthew Perry Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes! Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom! Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 17:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <u75def$3s4bh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #613584 |
Governor Swill wrote: >> By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site. > Cite the law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_Concerning_the_Shipwrecked_Vessel_RMS_Titanic > Congress has no jurisdiction. Titanic is in international waters. The laws in international waters are whatever the countries in those waters agree they are. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.O / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-24 00:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tWqlM.59420$Zq81.53168@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #613587 |
On 2023-06-24, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote: > Governor Swill wrote: >>> By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site. >> Cite the law. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_Concerning_the_Shipwrecked_Vessel_RMS_Titanic > >> Congress has no jurisdiction. Titanic is in international waters. > > The laws in international waters are whatever the countries in > those waters agree they are. > The underwater submersible community is not that large and they all know each other. Many of the more experienced people have written written OceanGate expressing their opinions that the sub was not safe but the CEO did not listen. And while the doomed passengers signed what looks like solid releases from suing the company should something go wrong, that is based upon what they were told ahead of time regarding the craft and it's safety. The families are going to collect a lot assuming OceanGate doesn't go bankrupt, which they probably will. It's tragic but going to be interesting as the investigations commence. Any 3rd year metallurgy student can tell you that carbon fiber is highly brittle and a poor choice for a craft under those extreme pressures. Even a breach of the hull the size of a pinhole would escalate into an implosion. -- Charlie Glock "To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens" -- Adolf Hitler
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| From | patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 17:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7f7f6b16-7ba6-422d-a8d3-9b6f70c77a2en@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #613588 |
On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 5:38:52 PM UTC-7, Charlie Glock wrote: > On 2023-06-24, Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote: > > Governor Swill wrote: > >>> By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site. > >> Cite the law. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_Concerning_the_Shipwrecked_Vessel_RMS_Titanic > > > >> Congress has no jurisdiction. Titanic is in international waters. > > > > The laws in international waters are whatever the countries in > > those waters agree they are. > > > The underwater submersible community is not that large and they all know each other. > Many of the more experienced people have written written OceanGate expressing their opinions that > the sub was not safe but the CEO did not listen. > > And while the doomed passengers signed what looks like solid releases from suing the company should > something go wrong, that is based upon what they were told ahead of time regarding the craft and > it's safety. > The families are going to collect a lot assuming OceanGate doesn't go bankrupt, which they probably > will. OceanGate is a one-man-show operating out of a rented industrial space in Everett WA, 20 miles north of Seattle. It doesn't even have a permanent sign on the rented space. That one-man-show ended Sunday. There will be no settlements with any of the victims. There is no one left to go after. I'm sure Starmaker's script will conform to this tragic fact. > It's tragic but going to be interesting as the investigations commence. > Any 3rd year metallurgy student can tell you that carbon fiber is highly brittle and a poor choice > for a craft under those extreme pressures. Even a breach of the hull the size of a pinhole would > escalate into an implosion. > > -- > Charlie Glock > "To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens" > -- Adolf Hitler
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2023-06-24 01:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB02CD28BF17EAnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.59> |
| In reply to | #613588 |
Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote in
news:tWqlM.59420$Zq81.53168@fx15.iad:
> On 2023-06-24, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site.
>>> Cite the law.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_Concerning_the_Shipwrecked_Ves
>> sel_RMS_Titanic
>>
>>> Congress has no jurisdiction. Titanic is in international waters.
>>
>> The laws in international waters are whatever the countries in
>> those waters agree they are.
>>
>
> The underwater submersible community is not that large and they all
> know each other. Many of the more experienced people have written
> written OceanGate expressing their opinions that the sub was not safe
> but the CEO did not listen.
>
> And while the doomed passengers signed what looks like solid releases
> from suing the company should something go wrong, that is based upon
> what they were told ahead of time regarding the craft and it's safety.
> The families are going to collect a lot assuming OceanGate doesn't go
> bankrupt, which they probably will.
> It's tragic but going to be interesting as the investigations
> commence. Any 3rd year metallurgy student can tell you that carbon
> fiber is highly brittle and a poor choice for a craft under those
> extreme pressures. Even a breach of the hull the size of a pinhole
> would escalate into an implosion.
>
Something else missing from this
toy submersable is any insulation. It
gets insanely cold even on the surface
much less thousands of feet down.
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| From | Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-24 01:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <a6slM.4805$LQ3.3513@fx01.iad> |
| In reply to | #613595 |
On 2023-06-24, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote: > Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote in > news:tWqlM.59420$Zq81.53168@fx15.iad: > >> On 2023-06-24, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Governor Swill wrote: >>>>> By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site. >>>> Cite the law. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_Concerning_the_Shipwrecked_Ves >>> sel_RMS_Titanic >>> >>>> Congress has no jurisdiction. Titanic is in international waters. >>> >>> The laws in international waters are whatever the countries in >>> those waters agree they are. >>> >> >> The underwater submersible community is not that large and they all >> know each other. Many of the more experienced people have written >> written OceanGate expressing their opinions that the sub was not safe >> but the CEO did not listen. >> >> And while the doomed passengers signed what looks like solid releases >> from suing the company should something go wrong, that is based upon >> what they were told ahead of time regarding the craft and it's safety. >> The families are going to collect a lot assuming OceanGate doesn't go >> bankrupt, which they probably will. >> It's tragic but going to be interesting as the investigations >> commence. Any 3rd year metallurgy student can tell you that carbon >> fiber is highly brittle and a poor choice for a craft under those >> extreme pressures. Even a breach of the hull the size of a pinhole >> would escalate into an implosion. >> > > > Something else missing from this > toy submersable is any insulation. It > gets insanely cold even on the surface > much less thousands of feet down. That's a valid point. -- Charlie Glock "To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens" -- Adolf Hitler
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| From | Robert Youngdale <another.jaques@idiot> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 19:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <V9slM.11056$a0G8.4359@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #613595 |
On 6/23/2023 6:44 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote: > Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote in > news:tWqlM.59420$Zq81.53168@fx15.iad: > >> On 2023-06-24, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Governor Swill wrote: >>>>> By congress. It already regulates trips to the titanic site. >>>> Cite the law. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_Concerning_the_Shipwrecked_Ves >>> sel_RMS_Titanic >>> >>>> Congress has no jurisdiction. Titanic is in international waters. >>> >>> The laws in international waters are whatever the countries in >>> those waters agree they are. >>> >> >> The underwater submersible community is not that large and they all >> know each other. Many of the more experienced people have written >> written OceanGate expressing their opinions that the sub was not safe >> but the CEO did not listen. >> >> And while the doomed passengers signed what looks like solid releases >> from suing the company should something go wrong, that is based upon >> what they were told ahead of time regarding the craft and it's safety. >> The families are going to collect a lot assuming OceanGate doesn't go >> bankrupt, which they probably will. >> It's tragic but going to be interesting as the investigations >> commence. Any 3rd year metallurgy student can tell you that carbon >> fiber is highly brittle and a poor choice for a craft under those >> extreme pressures. Even a breach of the hull the size of a pinhole >> would escalate into an implosion. >> > > > Something else missing from this > toy submersable LOL! It's *submersible* — 'i', not 'a' — but putting "toy" in front of it was a stroke of genius. You win Usenet today. Good stuff! > is any insulation. Are you sure? > It gets insanely cold even on the surface > much less thousands of feet down. The Titanic hit an iceberg on April 14. We're now at the summer solstice. I don't think it's nearly as cold at the surface. According to this PBS story (https://tinyurl.com/yckkt72j), the temperature at the depth of the Titanic is about 33F. That's pretty chilly, but if five people packed into a tight space are wearing warm enough clothing, they'd be fine. I've been out for walks wearing a good parka in far colder temperatures, and I was perfectly comfortable. The fact is the submersible never got to the depth of the Titanic. It imploded *long* before reaching the shipwreck. The reason communication was lost between the submersible and the surface ship relatively early into the dive on Sunday *was* the implosion. Those poor saps never even got close to the Titanic. It wasn't the cold that killed them or caused the disaster. It was the shitty, uncertified design of the submersible.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-22 13:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <u729qo$3dd5f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #613454 |
On 6/22/2023 11:00 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > It doesn't have a toilet? [...] Horrible thought. I wonder if it had some sort of catastrophic event that caused the vessel to instantly implode? Or, did they slowly suffer to death! God damn it, this is really bad. Damn. God bless them. Damn.
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| From | patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2023-06-22 13:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <72eb4b6a-ed5b-4e1e-9838-69ae857a6054n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #613480 |
On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 1:10:04 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 6/22/2023 11:00 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > It doesn't have a toilet? > [...] > > > Horrible thought. I wonder if it had some sort of catastrophic event > that caused the vessel to instantly implode? Or, did they slowly suffer > to death! God damn it, this is really bad. Damn. God bless them. Damn. My understanding is that from previous at-depth military submarine disasters, death comes in milliseconds for a hull failure. Far less time than even a fatal auto accident. But who really knows. So I join in your intonement of blessings. And yet, over 10 million people were born and over 10 million people died today. Some in great agony, but less vividly.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-23 11:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <u74orp$3q17m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #613482 |
On 6/22/2023 1:16 PM, patdolan wrote: > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 1:10:04 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 6/22/2023 11:00 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> It doesn't have a toilet? >> [...] >> >> >> Horrible thought. I wonder if it had some sort of catastrophic event >> that caused the vessel to instantly implode? Or, did they slowly suffer >> to death! God damn it, this is really bad. Damn. God bless them. Damn. > > My understanding is that from previous at-depth military submarine disasters, death comes in milliseconds for a hull failure. Far less time than even a fatal auto accident. But who really knows. So I join in your intonement of blessings. > > And yet, over 10 million people were born and over 10 million people died today. Some in great agony, but less vividly. Yeah. That is a rather profound point. Thank, patdolan. You are a kind person.
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-22 19:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <u72pdp$1lhr3$3@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #613454 |
On 6/22/2023 1:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > It doesn't have a toilet? > > > It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free shipping) > > > > Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing??? > > > an Xbox contoller makes it go left? > > > no fat people allowed in dat thing, right? > > > don't lean on the window... > > > > > > Hehe :-) NASA didn't build it. Two-bit post-Carter era "engineers" did. And for giving themselves some credibility free of charge, they asked a NASA employee (and also a Boeing guy I think) a couple of questions then publicized it. It was done by a small business owned by a couple of men who were raised on cartoons and had acquired "whodat"-type insights and didn't know better who to give the job to. Calculations involved in designing something like that require physicists first, in addition to a few other scientists from other natural philosophy disciplines. "Engineers" never see the material needed to know and acquire skills with in their entire life spans. The latter will only be there to follow directions and manually do the job. And since the design involves multiple disciplines, all of which needing scientist level mastery, then _only_ a top physicist can do the job of correctly managing the operations research of the project. Did the two Bozo owners know all this? Evidently not! Hehheheh :-)) This is neither the right day nor the right time of the day for me to drink tea. But I'm doing it to celebrate the submersible's implosion :-) A lot of post-Carter Bozos in USA have to get killed before they _begin_ to understand who is a physicist and who an "engineer." Nice tea :) -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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| From | Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-22 20:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <u72si6$1lis2$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #613504 |
On 6/22/2023 7:36 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: > On 6/22/2023 1:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >> It doesn't have a toilet? >> >> >> It uses a old Amazon cheap $30.00 video game controller? (free shipping) >> >> >> >> Why would you trust Nasa to build dat thing??? >> >> >> an Xbox contoller makes it go left? >> >> >> no fat people allowed in dat thing, right? >> >> >> don't lean on the window... >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Hehe :-) > > NASA didn't build it. Two-bit post-Carter era "engineers" did. And for > giving themselves some credibility free of charge, they asked a NASA > employee (and also a Boeing guy I think) a couple of questions then > publicized it. It was done by a small business owned by a couple of men > who were raised on cartoons and had acquired "whodat"-type insights and > didn't know better who to give the job to. > > Calculations involved in designing something like that require > physicists first, in addition to a few other scientists from other > natural philosophy disciplines. "Engineers" never see the material > needed to know and acquire skills with in their entire life spans. The > latter will only be there to follow directions and manually do the job. > > And since the design involves multiple disciplines, all of which needing > scientist level mastery, then _only_ a top physicist can do the job of > correctly managing the operations research of the project. > > Did the two Bozo owners know all this? Evidently not! Hehheheh :-)) > > This is neither the right day nor the right time of the day for me to > drink tea. But I'm doing it to celebrate the submersible's implosion :-) > > A lot of post-Carter Bozos in USA have to get killed before they _begin_ > to understand who is a physicist and who an "engineer." > > Nice tea :) > > And why didn't they have a Walmart drone hovering above the area filming the surface while the sub was descending to the bottom?... Within just four or five minutes of implosion the drone would detect all that gas reaching the surface, and fees of millions of dollars to various agencies would've been avoided. OceanGate now has to pay for that too cause it didn't see it wise enough to purchase a Walmart drone. This brings up too nice physics problems :) 1) How long does it take for an air bubble to travel 4.4 km from the bottom of the ocean at the Titanic spot to the top? 2) How wide would the surface diameter of the spread of the bubbles be? Why don't you good-for-nothing "engineers" here answer these questions instead of flattering yourselves with fake "physics" discussions? -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
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