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Einstein's Relativity Theory

Started bynstefi@gmail.com
First post2018-05-17 08:41 -0700
Last post2018-05-29 20:21 +0200
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  Einstein's Relativity Theory nstefi@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 08:41 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 16:18 +0000
      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-20 04:32 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "effectuationism@gmail.com" <effectuationism@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 09:58 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-17 19:23 +0200
        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "effectuationism@gmail.com" <effectuationism@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 10:46 -0700
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-18 01:59 +0200
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> - 2018-05-19 17:03 +0000
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-18 02:49 +0200
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Ursula Vankeuren <aln@divweo.id> - 2018-05-19 17:05 +0000
    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 19:10 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "effectuationism@gmail.com" <effectuationism@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 03:05 -0700
        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-20 07:54 -0700
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "effectuationism@gmail.com" <effectuationism@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 10:48 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 11:01 -0700
              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "effectuationism@gmail.com" <effectuationism@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 12:45 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 20:08 +0000
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-20 14:58 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-21 09:22 +0000
        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 12:10 -0700
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 16:08 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 10:08 -0700
              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-22 21:13 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 14:26 -0700
                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-22 21:40 +0000
              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 14:35 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-22 21:49 +0000
                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-22 21:51 +0000
                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 16:05 -0700
                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 18:06 -0700
                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 19:31 -0700
                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 14:59 -0700
                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 15:34 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 15:47 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-24 10:02 +0000
                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 12:38 -0700
                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-24 21:58 +0200
                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 23:46 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-25 06:21 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-25 21:03 +0200
                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 15:58 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 19:42 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 10:07 +0100
        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 03:29 -0700
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 12:32 +0100
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 13:09 +0100
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-18 09:06 -0500
              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-18 11:48 -0400
                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-18 22:47 -0500
                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-05-22 21:45 +0200
                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-22 19:29 -0500
                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-05-24 21:37 +0200
                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 15:16 -0700
                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-24 20:40 -0500
                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-05-25 04:52 +0200
              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 16:55 +0100
                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-18 09:29 -0700
                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 20:26 +0100
                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-18 14:18 -0700
                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 07:03 +0100
                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 23:34 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 13:33 +0100
                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 06:10 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 06:31 -0700
                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 18:50 +0100
                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 12:21 -0700
                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 00:44 +0100
                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 19:04 -0700
                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 07:09 +0100
                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 23:24 -0700
                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 10:46 +0100
                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 18:40 +0100
                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-19 05:52 -0700
              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 18:33 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 12:05 -0700
      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 14:57 -0700
        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 17:22 -0700
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 23:51 -0700
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 18:22 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 02:32 -0700
              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 08:19 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 09:26 -0700
                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 10:34 -0700
                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 00:32 -0700
                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 00:43 -0700
                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 09:51 -0700
                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 11:34 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 17:01 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 17:25 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 19:15 -0700
                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 05:44 -0700
                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-23 06:49 -0700
                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 07:12 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-23 07:47 -0700
                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 08:15 -0700
                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 09:02 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 09:11 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 16:55 +0000
                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 10:13 -0700
                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 19:20 +0000
                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 09:20 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 10:12 -0700
                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 10:22 -0700
                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 10:42 -0700
                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 10:53 -0700
                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 12:32 -0700
                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 13:05 -0700
                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 13:53 -0700
                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 19:42 -0700
                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:26 -0700
                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 05:54 -0700
                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 13:57 +0000
                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-24 08:08 -0700
                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 17:23 +0000
                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 08:59 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 17:55 -0700
                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:52 -0700
                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:57 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 09:01 -0700
                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-25 09:23 -0700
                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-25 10:17 -0700
                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 11:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-25 12:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-25 12:11 -0700
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 12:21 -0700
                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 13:10 -0700
                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 16:46 -0700
                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 17:07 -0700
                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:49 -0700
                                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 20:43 -0700
                                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-25 21:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 13:23 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 14:52 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 18:04 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 20:32 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-26 20:54 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 08:03 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-27 12:01 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 17:42 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-27 18:05 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 18:34 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-27 18:49 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 19:19 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 08:05 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 16:21 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 18:16 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 18:45 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 20:16 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 21:39 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 06:54 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 08:12 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 10:34 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 10:47 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 12:50 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 15:39 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 15:40 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:47 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 15:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 23:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 16:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-29 16:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 16:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-29 18:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-29 21:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Vaughn Fleck <guah@nhnw.nc> - 2018-05-30 20:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 00:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 18:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-29 18:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 03:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-29 23:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 06:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-30 22:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 07:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 15:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 13:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 02:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-30 22:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 17:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-31 10:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 17:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 08:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-30 07:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 14:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-31 07:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 14:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 07:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 15:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 13:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-31 07:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 17:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 18:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 19:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-05-31 07:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:15 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-29 16:47 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 16:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-29 17:31 -0700
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                                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 23:02 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 07:56 -0700
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                                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 13:24 -0700
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                                                                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-30 14:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 14:51 -0700
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                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 03:13 +0100
                                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 00:46 -0700
                                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 12:47 -0700
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                                                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 05:44 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 06:23 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 06:42 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 09:10 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 09:33 -0700
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                                                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 17:19 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 18:00 -0700
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                                                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 19:01 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 19:56 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 21:16 -0700
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                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-25 21:40 -0700
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 17:01 -0700
                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 02:56 -0700
                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-26 10:00 +0000
                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 13:06 -0700
                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-26 13:19 -0700
                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 13:27 -0700
                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 16:01 -0700
                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-26 18:57 -0500
                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 17:59 -0700
                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 20:59 -0700
                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 08:10 -0700
                                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 11:21 -0700
                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 17:51 -0700
                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 18:21 -0700
                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 18:40 -0700
                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 19:28 -0700
                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 00:48 -0700
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                                                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 06:39 -0700
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                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 18:21 +0100
        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 09:43 -0700
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 10:49 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 18:25 +0000
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    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 08:28 +0100
    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 02:36 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 14:55 -0700
    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory paul jark <jarkpaulsmith@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 13:37 -0700
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            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 18:24 +0000
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                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 14:40 +0000
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                                                                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-23 21:24 -0700
                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 22:07 -0700
                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 13:10 +0000
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                                                                    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 13:10 +0000
                                                                      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-24 06:56 -0700
                                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 17:23 +0000
                                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-24 12:32 -0700
                                                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 18:48 -0700
                                                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-23 21:21 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steve BH <sbharris@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 22:06 -0700
                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 09:28 +0100
                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-22 02:07 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 19:30 +0100
                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-22 12:20 -0700
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          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-20 09:30 -0700
            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 10:08 -0700
              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 18:36 +0000
              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-20 13:04 -0700
                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 16:33 -0700
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                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-20 17:14 -0700
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                        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 05:46 -0700
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                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-22 10:14 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 10:22 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 17:36 +0000
                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 11:00 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-22 11:00 -0700
                          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-22 10:59 -0700
                            Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 11:11 -0700
                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 18:25 +0000
                              Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-22 13:02 -0700
                                Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 18:04 -0700
                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-05-20 17:27 -0700
                  Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 01:23 +0000
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    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-20 04:37 -0700
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      Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 07:55 -0700
        Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-05-20 08:55 -0700
          Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory Steven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 09:13 -0700
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    Re: Einstein's Relativity Theory DESMOND DAVID CLAY <desmondclaydavid677live@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 08:18 -0700
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#458513

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-20 06:02 -0700
Message-ID<ee1febec-9a5c-4978-8571-d111d2f3132f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458495
On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
> > Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove that the theory is right?
> > 
> <snip>
> > 
> > So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
> > 
> > It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > Steven
> > 
> 
> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.


Always remember: if you don't know something
you have to believe it.

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#458525

FromSteven Nagy <nstefi@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-20 07:50 -0700
Message-ID<cdeb749b-a259-4f56-8699-c510437ec458@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458513
On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> > On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > 
> > > I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
> > > Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove that the theory is right?
> > > 
> > <snip>
> > > 
> > > So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
> > > 
> > > It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
> > > 
> > > Thank you,
> > > Steven
> > > 
> > 
> > So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
> > qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
> 
> 
> Always remember: if you don't know something
> you have to believe it.

Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me, and contradicts with all I learned about physics before, which were all logical up to that point? I wouldn't do that. I would try to understand and learn how he reached to that conclusion, so it would make sense to me.
I will try to read those books that were mentioned here when I have time, but until then this thread would be out of date, so that's why I just responded to comments based on what seems logical to me.
I can follow a logical deduction, and I started reading his book, and that sentence about the event in A' and B' not being simultaneous, didn't sound logical to me. I don't have to read all the books to be able to understand a small portion of it. I can focus on a small fragment at a time and able to tell if it's logical or not.
But even if he makes the smallest mistake and assumes something wrong, and later he will base new theories on top of that, like time dilation, then all those theories will be false.
OK, I better sit down and start reading some of those books suggested.
But the sources I found in internet so far only described his theories as they were all proven, but none of them tried to logically deduct it.
Thanks.

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#458534

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-20 09:26 -0700
Message-ID<f5c8eef2-c6f5-4311-9a53-e1fa4db2ecea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458525
On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> > On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> > > On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
> > > > Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove that the theory is right?
> > > > 
> > > <snip>
> > > > 
> > > > So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
> > > > 
> > > > It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Steven
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
> > > qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
> > 
> > 
> > Always remember: if you don't know something
> > you have to believe it.
> 
> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me

Particularly in this case.
Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
They are scientists, we are engineers. They can
have the power to prove us clocks must indicate 
their  idiocies, because of Great Mystical  Essence 
of the Core. And we have the power to continue
making clocks  indicating t'=t, just like serious
clocks always did.

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#458567

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-20 18:24 +0000
Message-ID<pdsegu$1237$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#458534
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
>>>>> that the theory is right?
>>>>> 
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Steven
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
>>> you have to believe it.
>> 
>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
> 
> Particularly in this case.
> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.

It’s not that hard to understand. Even a woodworker has no trouble
understanding it. However, it does require reading. It also requires
understanding some background concepts so jumping in the middle as a
shortcut is not advisable. 

Some people are lazy. 


> They are scientists, we are engineers. They can
> have the power to prove us clocks must indicate 
> their  idiocies, because of Great Mystical  Essence 
> of the Core. And we have the power to continue
> making clocks  indicating t'=t, just like serious
> clocks always did.
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#458643

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-20 21:38 -0700
Message-ID<278db2f7-0c06-4270-b1f7-16c9e30586ac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458567
On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
> >> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> >>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
> >>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
> >>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
> >>>>> that the theory is right?
> >>>>> 
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
> >>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
> >>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
> >>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
> >>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>> Steven
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
> >>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Always remember: if you don't know something
> >>> you have to believe it.
> >> 
> >> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
> > 
> > Particularly in this case.
> > Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
> 
> It’s not that hard to understand.

It's not especially hard, but it's stilll waste of time.

> Even a woodworker has no trouble

It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
to say about your Shit.


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#458671

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-21 14:40 +0000
Message-ID<pdulor$obn$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#458643
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
>>>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
>>>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
>>>>>>> that the theory is right?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
>>>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
>>>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
>>>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
>>>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> Steven
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
>>>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
>>>>> you have to believe it.
>>>> 
>>>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
>>> 
>>> Particularly in this case.
>>> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
>> 
>> It’s not that hard to understand.
> 
> It's not especially hard, 

And yet you don’t understand it, because you haven’t tried. 

Your mantra is that if an idea runs counter to what you already believe
(I.e. your common sense) then it is idiotic. And anything you deem idiotic
you don’t bother to learn. Thus you have rendered yourself — by active
choice —  incapable of learning anything surprising. Well done. 

> but it's stilll waste of time.
> 
>> Even a woodworker has no trouble
> 
> It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
> idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
> to say about your Shit.

Ken Seto maintains it is impossible for him to be wrong. But he’s insane.
So are you. 

> 
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#458688

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-21 09:24 -0700
Message-ID<931c19f5-e620-4ff3-9860-bf96d29ce033@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458671
On Monday, 21 May 2018 16:40:31 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> >>>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
> >>>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
> >>>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
> >>>>>>> that the theory is right?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
> >>>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
> >>>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
> >>>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
> >>>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>> Steven
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
> >>>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
> >>>>> you have to believe it.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
> >>> 
> >>> Particularly in this case.
> >>> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
> >> 
> >> It’s not that hard to understand.
> > 
> > It's not especially hard, 
> 
> And yet you don’t understand it, because you haven’t tried. 


It's you who doesn't, not me.



> >> Even a woodworker has no trouble
> > 
> > It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
> > idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
> > to say about your Shit.
> 
> Ken Seto maintains it is impossible for him to be wrong. But he’s insane.
> So are you. 

You, on the other hand, maintains it's impossible for
your moronic gurus rejecting common sense. But you're 
stupid.

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#458697

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-21 16:53 +0000
Message-ID<pdutiv$17j3$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#458688
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Monday, 21 May 2018 16:40:31 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
>>>>>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
>>>>>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
>>>>>>>>> that the theory is right?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
>>>>>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
>>>>>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
>>>>>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
>>>>>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>> Steven
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
>>>>>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
>>>>>>> you have to believe it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
>>>>> 
>>>>> Particularly in this case.
>>>>> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
>>>> 
>>>> It’s not that hard to understand.
>>> 
>>> It's not especially hard, 
>> 
>> And yet you don’t understand it, because you haven’t tried. 
> 
> 
> It's you who doesn't, not me.

Sorry dude but I’ve read. You haven’t. You at first claimed you did, but
then when asked for specific resources you’ve read, you first evaded, then
you declined to answer, then you said the resources weren’t read because
they weren’t worth reading. 

> 
> 
> 
>>>> Even a woodworker has no trouble
>>> 
>>> It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
>>> idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
>>> to say about your Shit.
>> 
>> Ken Seto maintains it is impossible for him to be wrong. But he’s insane.
>> So are you. 
> 
> You, on the other hand, maintains it's impossible for
> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense. But you're 
> stupid.

Oh they do reject common sense. I’ve not denied that, you drunken liar.
What they have said is that data trumps common sense. You in the other hand
have claimed that your idea of science doesn’t count on data for
validation. And with that, you have firmly established your incompetence
about science. Over and done. So foam and splutter away, vent your anger,
stoke your ego. You are accomplishing nothing except making yourself feel
better. 

> 
> 



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#458740

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-21 13:00 -0700
Message-ID<04eac39b-908d-45a4-896f-ccc670b24f22@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458697
On Monday, 21 May 2018 18:53:55 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Monday, 21 May 2018 16:40:31 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
> >>>>>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
> >>>>>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
> >>>>>>>>> that the theory is right?
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
> >>>>>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
> >>>>>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
> >>>>>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
> >>>>>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>> Steven
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
> >>>>>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
> >>>>>>> you have to believe it.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Particularly in this case.
> >>>>> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
> >>>> 
> >>>> It’s not that hard to understand.
> >>> 
> >>> It's not especially hard, 
> >> 
> >> And yet you don’t understand it, because you haven’t tried. 
> > 
> > 
> > It's you who doesn't, not me.
> 
> Sorry dude but I’ve read.


So what? 


> You haven’t. 

Yes, I have.

>You at first claimed you did, but
> then when asked for specific resources you’ve read, you first evaded

And why should I confess to an idiot woodworker not
knowing even Pythagorean theorem.


> >>>> Even a woodworker has no trouble
> >>> 
> >>> It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
> >>> idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
> >>> to say about your Shit.
> >> 
> >> Ken Seto maintains it is impossible for him to be wrong. But he’s insane.
> >> So are you. 
> > 
> > You, on the other hand, maintains it's impossible for
> > your moronic gurus rejecting common sense. But you're 
> > stupid.
> 
> Oh they do reject common sense. 

Yes, they do. If they didn't they could read
some dictionaries to learn that "lack of common 
sense" is just another name of "stupidity".
But they have rejected common sense, so they are
too stupid to read dictionaries.


> I’ve not denied that, you drunken liar.

I meant "it's impossible [to be wrong] for
your moronic gurus rejecting common sense."


> What they have said is that data trumps common sense.

What a pity they imagined this data. As expected from
morons rejecting common sense.

Real data from real clocks of real GPS is: t'=t, trumping
your moronic Shit.


> You in the other hand
> have claimed that your idea of science doesn’t count on data for
> validation.
> And with that, you have firmly established your incompetence

Odd, poor, incompetent idiot, you're a woodworker, whle I'm 
a DATA engineer. 
I can make DATA confirming just anything.  It's my job. Your
job is making toys and tables. Don't teach me competency about
data. Really.

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#458749

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-21 21:08 +0000
Message-ID<pdvcgn$2ti$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#458740
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Monday, 21 May 2018 18:53:55 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> On Monday, 21 May 2018 16:40:31 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
>>>>>>>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
>>>>>>>>>>> that the theory is right?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
>>>>>>>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
>>>>>>>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
>>>>>>>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
>>>>>>>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>> Steven
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
>>>>>>>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
>>>>>>>>> you have to believe it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Particularly in this case.
>>>>>>> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It’s not that hard to understand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's not especially hard, 
>>>> 
>>>> And yet you don’t understand it, because you haven’t tried. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's you who doesn't, not me.
>> 
>> Sorry dude but I’ve read.
> 
> 
> So what? 
> 
> 
>> You haven’t. 
> 
> Yes, I have.
> 
>> You at first claimed you did, but
>> then when asked for specific resources you’ve read, you first evaded
> 
> And why should I confess to an idiot woodworker not
> knowing even Pythagorean theorem.

Let’s just say the evasion and then your confession (already happened, you
can look up your own posts for yourself) speak for themselves. 

> 
> 
>>>>>> Even a woodworker has no trouble
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
>>>>> idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
>>>>> to say about your Shit.
>>>> 
>>>> Ken Seto maintains it is impossible for him to be wrong. But he’s insane.
>>>> So are you. 
>>> 
>>> You, on the other hand, maintains it's impossible for
>>> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense. But you're 
>>> stupid.
>> 
>> Oh they do reject common sense. 
> 
> Yes, they do. If they didn't they could read
> some dictionaries to learn that "lack of common 
> sense" is just another name of "stupidity".

And I’m sure you can find lots of little reasons to defend common sense.
There are also many books in science education across several scientific
disciplines that go into how to overcome “common sense” preconceptions
which seem reasonable but are also empirically wrong. That is where a good
demonstration with the results plain for everyone to see are useful to
shake one’s misplaced faith in their supposed common sense. The surprising
result is the heart of science. 

Of course, you don’t buy into that. And so you refer to dictionaries to
defend common sense as some paramount sensibility. People do the same thing
quoting the Bible to defend backwards positions. 

> But they have rejected common sense, so they are
> too stupid to read dictionaries.
> 
> 
>> I’ve not denied that, you drunken liar.
> 
> I meant "it's impossible [to be wrong] for
> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense."
> 
> 
>> What they have said is that data trumps common sense.
> 
> What a pity they imagined this data. As expected from
> morons rejecting common sense.
> 
> Real data from real clocks of real GPS is: t'=t, trumping
> your moronic Shit.
> 
> 
>> You in the other hand
>> have claimed that your idea of science doesn’t count on data for
>> validation.
>> And with that, you have firmly established your incompetence
> 
> Odd, poor, incompetent idiot, you're a woodworker, whle I'm 
> a DATA engineer. 
> I can make DATA confirming just anything.  

Of course you can. You’re a programmer, not a scientist. You don’t
understand the value of EXPERIMENTAL data that is core to science. What you
can generate with code has nothing to do with that. 

> It's my job. Your
> job is making toys and tables. Don't teach me competency about
> data. Really.
> 
 
I’m not teaching you anything. You don’t know what you’re talking about
with science, nor do you care. So nobody will try to teach you anything
about it. They’ll just let you fume and obsess about it. 



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#458780

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-21 21:23 -0700
Message-ID<c396415b-4e98-4de4-8bd3-eac3e41d876a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458749
On Monday, 21 May 2018 23:08:43 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Monday, 21 May 2018 18:53:55 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, 21 May 2018 16:40:31 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
> >>>>>>>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
> >>>>>>>>>>> that the theory is right?
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
> >>>>>>>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
> >>>>>>>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
> >>>>>>>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
> >>>>>>>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Steven
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
> >>>>>>>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
> >>>>>>>>> you have to believe it.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Particularly in this case.
> >>>>>>> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> It’s not that hard to understand.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It's not especially hard, 
> >>>> 
> >>>> And yet you don’t understand it, because you haven’t tried. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> It's you who doesn't, not me.
> >> 
> >> Sorry dude but I’ve read.
> > 
> > 
> > So what? 
> > 
> > 
> >> You haven’t. 
> > 
> > Yes, I have.
> > 
> >> You at first claimed you did, but
> >> then when asked for specific resources you’ve read, you first evaded
> > 
> > And why should I confess to an idiot woodworker not
> > knowing even Pythagorean theorem.
> 
> Let’s just say the evasion and then your confession (already happened, you
> can look up your own posts for yourself) speak for themselves. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> >>>>>> Even a woodworker has no trouble
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
> >>>>> idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
> >>>>> to say about your Shit.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ken Seto maintains it is impossible for him to be wrong. But he’s insane.
> >>>> So are you. 
> >>> 
> >>> You, on the other hand, maintains it's impossible for
> >>> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense. But you're 
> >>> stupid.
> >> 
> >> Oh they do reject common sense. 
> > 
> > Yes, they do. If they didn't they could read
> > some dictionaries to learn that "lack of common 
> > sense" is just another name of "stupidity".
> 
> And I’m sure you can find lots of little reasons to defend common sense.
> There are also many books in science education across several scientific
> disciplines that go into how to overcome “common sense” preconceptions
> which seem reasonable but are also empirically wrong. That is where a good
> demonstration with the results plain for everyone to see are useful to
> shake one’s misplaced faith in their supposed common sense. The surprising
> result is the heart of science. 
> 
> Of course, you don’t buy into that. And so you refer to dictionaries to
> defend common sense as some paramount sensibility. People do the same thing
> quoting the Bible to defend backwards positions. 
> 
> > But they have rejected common sense, so they are
> > too stupid to read dictionaries.
> > 
> > 
> >> I’ve not denied that, you drunken liar.
> > 
> > I meant "it's impossible [to be wrong] for
> > your moronic gurus rejecting common sense."
> > 
> > 
> >> What they have said is that data trumps common sense.
> > 
> > What a pity they imagined this data. As expected from
> > morons rejecting common sense.
> > 
> > Real data from real clocks of real GPS is: t'=t, trumping
> > your moronic Shit.
> > 
> > 
> >> You in the other hand
> >> have claimed that your idea of science doesn’t count on data for
> >> validation.
> >> And with that, you have firmly established your incompetence
> > 
> > Odd, poor, incompetent idiot, you're a woodworker, whle I'm 
> > a DATA engineer. 
> > I can make DATA confirming just anything.  
> 
> Of course you can. You’re a programmer, not a scientist. You don’t
> understand the value of EXPERIMENTAL data that is core to science. 

:)
You're WOODWORKER! You understand perfectly.


What you
> can generate with code has nothing to do with that. 

Poor fanatic idiot.

> > It's my job. Your
> > job is making toys and tables. Don't teach me competency about
> > data. Really.
> > 
>  
> I’m not teaching you anything. You don’t know what you’re talking about
> with science, nor do you care. 

You're not teaching me anything, nononononono!
It's just that you know about science and I don't,
so you say and I should listen, right, poor idiot?

Odd, science is a DATA construct and it happens
I'm a DATA engineer and you're just an arogant
woodworker halfbrain. YOU don’t know what you’re 
talking about with science, nor do you care. 
So your moronic gurus rejecting common sense do.

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#458794

FromPython <python@python.invalid>
Date2018-05-22 13:24 +0200
Message-ID<5b03fdea$0$5204$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#458780
Silly Polish drunkyard, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
...
> I'm a DATA engineer 

ah ah ah ah!

How much data in your bottle today, Mr Wozniak?

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#458795

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-22 04:40 -0700
Message-ID<7c2a8995-7134-4ed5-88f5-1cc035ee50ed@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458794
On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 13:24:28 UTC+2, Python  wrote:
> Silly Polish drunkyard, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> ...
> > I'm a DATA engineer 
> 
> ah ah ah ah!
> 
> How much data in your bottle today, Mr Wozniak?

See, poor idiot: according to your theory of
science (assuming that the pathetic mumble of 
Popper can be counted as a theory) such an 
arguments would never appear.
Your "theory of science" knows nothing about
real science.

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#458796

FromPython <python@python.invalid>
Date2018-05-22 13:54 +0200
Message-ID<5b0404eb$0$12270$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#458795
Idiotic arrogant retard mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 13:24:28 UTC+2, Python  wrote:
>> Silly Polish drunkyard, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>> ...
>>> I'm a DATA engineer
>>
>> ah ah ah ah!
>>
>> How much data in your bottle today, Mr Wozniak?
> 
> See

I do. You do not look good today, Mr Wozniak.

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#458799

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-22 05:28 -0700
Message-ID<8bb96bc5-9132-46d4-968c-625caab58994@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458796
On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 13:54:21 UTC+2, Python  wrote:
> Idiotic arrogant retard mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 13:24:28 UTC+2, Python  wrote:
> >> Silly Polish drunkyard, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> I'm a DATA engineer
> >>
> >> ah ah ah ah!
> >>
> >> How much data in your bottle today, Mr Wozniak?
> > 
> > See
> 
> I do. You do not look good today, Mr Wozniak.

Don't you like my new haircut, poor idiot?:(

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#458805

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-22 13:14 +0000
Message-ID<pe1533$q2g$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#458780
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Monday, 21 May 2018 23:08:43 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> On Monday, 21 May 2018 18:53:55 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, 21 May 2018 16:40:31 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the theory is right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
>>>>>>>>>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
>>>>>>>>>>> you have to believe it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Particularly in this case.
>>>>>>>>> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It’s not that hard to understand.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's not especially hard, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And yet you don’t understand it, because you haven’t tried. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's you who doesn't, not me.
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry dude but I’ve read.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So what? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> You haven’t. 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I have.
>>> 
>>>> You at first claimed you did, but
>>>> then when asked for specific resources you’ve read, you first evaded
>>> 
>>> And why should I confess to an idiot woodworker not
>>> knowing even Pythagorean theorem.
>> 
>> Let’s just say the evasion and then your confession (already happened, you
>> can look up your own posts for yourself) speak for themselves. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>>>> Even a woodworker has no trouble
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
>>>>>>> idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
>>>>>>> to say about your Shit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ken Seto maintains it is impossible for him to be wrong. But he’s insane.
>>>>>> So are you. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You, on the other hand, maintains it's impossible for
>>>>> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense. But you're 
>>>>> stupid.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh they do reject common sense. 
>>> 
>>> Yes, they do. If they didn't they could read
>>> some dictionaries to learn that "lack of common 
>>> sense" is just another name of "stupidity".
>> 
>> And I’m sure you can find lots of little reasons to defend common sense.
>> There are also many books in science education across several scientific
>> disciplines that go into how to overcome “common sense” preconceptions
>> which seem reasonable but are also empirically wrong. That is where a good
>> demonstration with the results plain for everyone to see are useful to
>> shake one’s misplaced faith in their supposed common sense. The surprising
>> result is the heart of science. 
>> 
>> Of course, you don’t buy into that. And so you refer to dictionaries to
>> defend common sense as some paramount sensibility. People do the same thing
>> quoting the Bible to defend backwards positions. 
>> 
>>> But they have rejected common sense, so they are
>>> too stupid to read dictionaries.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I’ve not denied that, you drunken liar.
>>> 
>>> I meant "it's impossible [to be wrong] for
>>> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense."
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> What they have said is that data trumps common sense.
>>> 
>>> What a pity they imagined this data. As expected from
>>> morons rejecting common sense.
>>> 
>>> Real data from real clocks of real GPS is: t'=t, trumping
>>> your moronic Shit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> You in the other hand
>>>> have claimed that your idea of science doesn’t count on data for
>>>> validation.
>>>> And with that, you have firmly established your incompetence
>>> 
>>> Odd, poor, incompetent idiot, you're a woodworker, whle I'm 
>>> a DATA engineer. 
>>> I can make DATA confirming just anything.  
>> 
>> Of course you can. You’re a programmer, not a scientist. You don’t
>> understand the value of EXPERIMENTAL data that is core to science. 
> 
> :)
> You're WOODWORKER! You understand perfectly.
> 
> 
> What you
>> can generate with code has nothing to do with that. 
> 
> Poor fanatic idiot.
> 
>>> It's my job. Your
>>> job is making toys and tables. Don't teach me competency about
>>> data. Really.
>>> 
>> 
>> I’m not teaching you anything. You don’t know what you’re talking about
>> with science, nor do you care. 
> 
> You're not teaching me anything, nononononono!
> It's just that you know about science and I don't,
> so you say and I should listen, right, poor idiot?
> 
> Odd, science is a DATA construct and it happens
> I'm a DATA engineer and you're just an arogant
> woodworker halfbrain. YOU don’t know what you’re 
> talking about with science, nor do you care. 
> So your moronic gurus rejecting common sense do.
> 
> 

Wozniak, it’s adorable that you firmly believe that a second tier
programmer for a Polish shipping company who is unread in physics
nevertheless knows physics better than physicists, because of the words
“data” and “model” and “common sense”. 

And then you go calling other people “arogant”.

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#458814

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-22 07:59 -0700
Message-ID<cdb56298-7ec5-406a-a92d-39365afe3ea1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458805
On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 15:14:14 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Monday, 21 May 2018 23:08:43 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, 21 May 2018 18:53:55 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, 21 May 2018 16:40:31 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >>>>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that the theory is right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
> >>>>>>>>>>> you have to believe it.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Particularly in this case.
> >>>>>>>>> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> It’s not that hard to understand.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> It's not especially hard, 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> And yet you don’t understand it, because you haven’t tried. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It's you who doesn't, not me.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sorry dude but I’ve read.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> So what? 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> You haven’t. 
> >>> 
> >>> Yes, I have.
> >>> 
> >>>> You at first claimed you did, but
> >>>> then when asked for specific resources you’ve read, you first evaded
> >>> 
> >>> And why should I confess to an idiot woodworker not
> >>> knowing even Pythagorean theorem.
> >> 
> >> Let’s just say the evasion and then your confession (already happened, you
> >> can look up your own posts for yourself) speak for themselves. 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>>>>>> Even a woodworker has no trouble
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
> >>>>>>> idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
> >>>>>>> to say about your Shit.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Ken Seto maintains it is impossible for him to be wrong. But he’s insane.
> >>>>>> So are you. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> You, on the other hand, maintains it's impossible for
> >>>>> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense. But you're 
> >>>>> stupid.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Oh they do reject common sense. 
> >>> 
> >>> Yes, they do. If they didn't they could read
> >>> some dictionaries to learn that "lack of common 
> >>> sense" is just another name of "stupidity".
> >> 
> >> And I’m sure you can find lots of little reasons to defend common sense.
> >> There are also many books in science education across several scientific
> >> disciplines that go into how to overcome “common sense” preconceptions
> >> which seem reasonable but are also empirically wrong. That is where a good
> >> demonstration with the results plain for everyone to see are useful to
> >> shake one’s misplaced faith in their supposed common sense. The surprising
> >> result is the heart of science. 
> >> 
> >> Of course, you don’t buy into that. And so you refer to dictionaries to
> >> defend common sense as some paramount sensibility. People do the same thing
> >> quoting the Bible to defend backwards positions. 
> >> 
> >>> But they have rejected common sense, so they are
> >>> too stupid to read dictionaries.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> I’ve not denied that, you drunken liar.
> >>> 
> >>> I meant "it's impossible [to be wrong] for
> >>> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense."
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> What they have said is that data trumps common sense.
> >>> 
> >>> What a pity they imagined this data. As expected from
> >>> morons rejecting common sense.
> >>> 
> >>> Real data from real clocks of real GPS is: t'=t, trumping
> >>> your moronic Shit.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> You in the other hand
> >>>> have claimed that your idea of science doesn’t count on data for
> >>>> validation.
> >>>> And with that, you have firmly established your incompetence
> >>> 
> >>> Odd, poor, incompetent idiot, you're a woodworker, whle I'm 
> >>> a DATA engineer. 
> >>> I can make DATA confirming just anything.  
> >> 
> >> Of course you can. You’re a programmer, not a scientist. You don’t
> >> understand the value of EXPERIMENTAL data that is core to science. 
> > 
> > :)
> > You're WOODWORKER! You understand perfectly.
> > 
> > 
> > What you
> >> can generate with code has nothing to do with that. 
> > 
> > Poor fanatic idiot.
> > 
> >>> It's my job. Your
> >>> job is making toys and tables. Don't teach me competency about
> >>> data. Really.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I’m not teaching you anything. You don’t know what you’re talking about
> >> with science, nor do you care. 
> > 
> > You're not teaching me anything, nononononono!
> > It's just that you know about science and I don't,
> > so you say and I should listen, right, poor idiot?
> > 
> > Odd, science is a DATA construct and it happens
> > I'm a DATA engineer and you're just an arogant
> > woodworker halfbrain. YOU don’t know what you’re 
> > talking about with science, nor do you care. 
> > So your moronic gurus rejecting common sense do.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Wozniak, it’s adorable that you firmly believe that a second tier
> programmer for a Polish shipping company who is unread in physics
> nevertheless knows physics better than physicists, because of the words
> “data” and “model” and “common sense”. 


Bodkin, it's adorable that you think your moronic gurus
know just everything because they know just everything,
even if it's completely out of their domain.
It's not adorable, however, that you're trying to teach
a data engineer about how data works. So, yes, I go calling
you "arrogant", poor, arogant halfbrain.

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#458824

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-22 15:31 +0000
Message-ID<pe1d3k$19g2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#458814
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 15:14:14 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> On Monday, 21 May 2018 23:08:43 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, 21 May 2018 18:53:55 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, 21 May 2018 16:40:31 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:24:35 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 16:50:55 UTC+2, Steven Nagy  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:02:30 AM UTC-4, mlwo...@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:01:05 UTC+2, Sylvia Else  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/05/2018 1:41 AM, nstefi@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand general relativity better, and follow the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic how Einstein reached to the conclusion of General Theory of Relativity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you direct me to some good resources that can explain and prove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the theory is right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, it seems like his argument has flaws.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that the theory of general relativity is just a tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of abstraction from reality that helps to explain certain things that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newton’s theory couldn’t, but maybe it raises a lot of other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions, and maybe it’s a way of looking at the world from another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective, but maybe we see something completely else than the reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you admit that your understanding has limits, but still feel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> qualified to suggest that the theory is flawed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Always remember: if you don't know something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have to believe it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Haha. Even if something completely doesn't make sense to me
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Particularly in this case.
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't even trouble trying to understand this shit.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It’s not that hard to understand.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It's not especially hard, 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And yet you don’t understand it, because you haven’t tried. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's you who doesn't, not me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry dude but I’ve read.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So what? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You haven’t. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I have.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You at first claimed you did, but
>>>>>> then when asked for specific resources you’ve read, you first evaded
>>>>> 
>>>>> And why should I confess to an idiot woodworker not
>>>>> knowing even Pythagorean theorem.
>>>> 
>>>> Let’s just say the evasion and then your confession (already happened, you
>>>> can look up your own posts for yourself) speak for themselves. 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Even a woodworker has no trouble
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It's not especially hard, but it's still not for such
>>>>>>>>> idiots. You don't understand Pythagorean theorem, what
>>>>>>>>> to say about your Shit.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto maintains it is impossible for him to be wrong. But he’s insane.
>>>>>>>> So are you. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, maintains it's impossible for
>>>>>>> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense. But you're 
>>>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh they do reject common sense. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, they do. If they didn't they could read
>>>>> some dictionaries to learn that "lack of common 
>>>>> sense" is just another name of "stupidity".
>>>> 
>>>> And I’m sure you can find lots of little reasons to defend common sense.
>>>> There are also many books in science education across several scientific
>>>> disciplines that go into how to overcome “common sense” preconceptions
>>>> which seem reasonable but are also empirically wrong. That is where a good
>>>> demonstration with the results plain for everyone to see are useful to
>>>> shake one’s misplaced faith in their supposed common sense. The surprising
>>>> result is the heart of science. 
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, you don’t buy into that. And so you refer to dictionaries to
>>>> defend common sense as some paramount sensibility. People do the same thing
>>>> quoting the Bible to defend backwards positions. 
>>>> 
>>>>> But they have rejected common sense, so they are
>>>>> too stupid to read dictionaries.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve not denied that, you drunken liar.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I meant "it's impossible [to be wrong] for
>>>>> your moronic gurus rejecting common sense."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What they have said is that data trumps common sense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What a pity they imagined this data. As expected from
>>>>> morons rejecting common sense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Real data from real clocks of real GPS is: t'=t, trumping
>>>>> your moronic Shit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You in the other hand
>>>>>> have claimed that your idea of science doesn’t count on data for
>>>>>> validation.
>>>>>> And with that, you have firmly established your incompetence
>>>>> 
>>>>> Odd, poor, incompetent idiot, you're a woodworker, whle I'm 
>>>>> a DATA engineer. 
>>>>> I can make DATA confirming just anything.  
>>>> 
>>>> Of course you can. You’re a programmer, not a scientist. You don’t
>>>> understand the value of EXPERIMENTAL data that is core to science. 
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> You're WOODWORKER! You understand perfectly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What you
>>>> can generate with code has nothing to do with that. 
>>> 
>>> Poor fanatic idiot.
>>> 
>>>>> It's my job. Your
>>>>> job is making toys and tables. Don't teach me competency about
>>>>> data. Really.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not teaching you anything. You don’t know what you’re talking about
>>>> with science, nor do you care. 
>>> 
>>> You're not teaching me anything, nononononono!
>>> It's just that you know about science and I don't,
>>> so you say and I should listen, right, poor idiot?
>>> 
>>> Odd, science is a DATA construct and it happens
>>> I'm a DATA engineer and you're just an arogant
>>> woodworker halfbrain. YOU don’t know what you’re 
>>> talking about with science, nor do you care. 
>>> So your moronic gurus rejecting common sense do.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Wozniak, it’s adorable that you firmly believe that a second tier
>> programmer for a Polish shipping company who is unread in physics
>> nevertheless knows physics better than physicists, because of the words
>> “data” and “model” and “common sense”. 
> 
> 
> Bodkin, it's adorable that you think your moronic gurus
> know just everything because they know just everything,
> even if it's completely out of their domain.

Woah. Which physicist has ever said he knows everything? Physicists know
physics. You are not a physicist but claim to understand physics better
than physicists. If anything you are the one guiltiest of what you accuse
others for. 

> It's not adorable, however, that you're trying to teach
> a data engineer about how data works. So, yes, I go calling
> you "arrogant", poor, arogant halfbrain.

Experimental physics data. You are a programmer, not a physicist. You do
not know about experimental physics data. You using data in programming
does not make you an expert in all kinds of data. Don’t be an arrogant blow
hard, ok?

> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#458844

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-05-22 09:52 -0700
Message-ID<5b07edf4-8ad2-40c1-a1e5-af91ce635ecf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458824
On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:31:04 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:

> > Bodkin, it's adorable that you think your moronic gurus
> > know just everything because they know just everything,
> > even if it's completely out of their domain.
> 
> Woah. Which physicist has ever said he knows everything? Physicists know
> physics. 

And mathematics. And models. An observers. And data. And
what science is ad how it works. And... 


> You are not a physicist but claim to understand physics better

Physicist, poor idiot, know physics. They know muons. Gravity.
Light. Electromagnetism. This kind of stuff. Their precious
physics doesn't know what it is and how it works. This is 
completely out of its domain. It's in MY domain.

> > It's not adorable, however, that you're trying to teach
> > a data engineer about how data works. So, yes, I go calling
> > you "arrogant", poor, arogant halfbrain.
> 
> Experimental physics data.

Just a special case of data in general. You're a pathetic,
arogant woodworker halfbrain. Not a data engineer. You 
don't know about data engineering. You don't know what it
does and how. You don't know of any kind of data. You know 
about wood. So, continue to be an arogant blow hard. That's 
what is expected from a fanatic idiot.

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#458853

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-22 17:28 +0000
Message-ID<pe1jvh$1mbp$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#458844
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:31:04 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> 
>>> Bodkin, it's adorable that you think your moronic gurus
>>> know just everything because they know just everything,
>>> even if it's completely out of their domain.
>> 
>> Woah. Which physicist has ever said he knows everything? Physicists know
>> physics. 
> 
> And mathematics. 

As it applies to physics. 

> And models. 

Physics models, scientific models, not other kinds of models. Not economics
models, not movie-making models, not traffic models. 

> An observers. 

As that jargon term applies in the context of physics. Just as “human” has
a specialized meaning in law that is different than in biology. 

> And data. 

Yes, experimental physics data. 

> And
> what science is ad how it works. 

Most definitely. Scientists completely own the meaning of science and how
it works. Nobody else does. Just as you would not expect dentists or
plumbers to have a say in what computer science is or how it works. 

> And... 
> 
> 
>> You are not a physicist but claim to understand physics better
> 
> Physicist, poor idiot, know physics. They know muons. Gravity.
> Light. Electromagnetism. This kind of stuff. Their precious
> physics doesn't know what it is and how it works. This is 
> completely out of its domain. It's in MY domain.

No sir. You are not in a position to claim that. Don’t be an arrogant ass. 

> 
>>> It's not adorable, however, that you're trying to teach
>>> a data engineer about how data works. So, yes, I go calling
>>> you "arrogant", poor, arogant halfbrain.
>> 
>> Experimental physics data.
> 
> Just a special case of data in general. 

Sorry, but your domain is not all forms of data. Don’t be an arrogant ass. 

> You're a pathetic,
> arogant woodworker halfbrain. Not a data engineer. You 
> don't know about data engineering. You don't know what it
> does and how. You don't know of any kind of data. You know 
> about wood. 

I know about what I’ve read. Which is more than what I do for a living. I
don’t know about you, but I read more than what I do for a living. Have you
read Lenin by the way? Or do you only read about programming?

> So, continue to be an arogant blow hard. That's 
> what is expected from a fanatic idiot.
> 
> 



-- 
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