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Super Intelligence

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
Last post2026-10-08 20:32 -0700
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  Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-29 19:11 -0700
    Re: Super Intelligence guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-09-30 10:14 +0200
      Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-09-30 18:37 +1000
        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:34 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-01 20:07 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Bob <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0000
            Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-07 17:15 +0200
              Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:03 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 12:59 -0700
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 04:20 +0800
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 16:03 -0700
                      Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:35 +0800
                        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-07 18:08 -0700
                          Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 10:01 +0800
                Re: Super Intelligence occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-08 09:02 +0200
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 21:11 +0800
                  Re: Super Intelligence Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-08 17:29 +0200
                  Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 10:38 -0700
                    Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:37 +0800
                      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 16:26 -0700
                        Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
                        Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-18 12:30 -0700
                          Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:17 -0600
                            Re: Super Intelligence Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-10-19 11:26 +1300
                              Re: Super Intelligence Blaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-18 16:49 -0600
                      Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:49 +1100
                        Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 17:17 -0700
                        Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
                          Re: Super Intelligence Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 19:02 -0700
                          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:12 -0700
                  Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-09 09:27 +1300
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:16 -0700
                  Re: Super Intelligence Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-09 10:29 +1100
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:22 -0700
                Re: Super Intelligence squalk <sq@net.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:17 +0100
                  Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-09 04:43 +0800
                    Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:26 -0700
              Re: Super Intelligence Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-08 11:00 +1300
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-30 13:30 -0700
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence HenryWilson <Hgw@home.com> - 2026-10-02 12:07 +0000
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:26 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 15:56 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:47 -0700
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:27 -0700
      Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-01 22:30 -0700
        Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:37 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:57 +0800
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-03 12:53 -0700
    Re: Super Intelligence Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2026-10-07 02:55 -0400
      Re: Super Intelligence Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-08 02:08 +0800
        Re: Super Intelligence wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2026-10-07 23:04 +0200
          Re: Super Intelligence The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-08 20:32 -0700

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#674284

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
Message-ID<XAXxS.16834$B9ef.12595@fx04.ams4>
In reply to#674279
On 10/9/2026 7:26 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Of course, if you only care about consuming the fentanyl yourself, then
>> you probably haven't seen any of the Jack Reacher movies, nor the T.V.
>> show, nor read any of his books.  And what does that make you, who claim
>> to be/super intelligent/?
> 
> President Donald Trump signed an executive order on September 29, 2026,
> officially renaming "Artificial Intelligence" (AI) to
> 
> "Super Intelligence" (SI) across all U.S. federal executive branch
> agencies.
> 
> I never claimed to be super intelligent...

How else are people supposed to read /Does anybody here have Super
Intelligence besides me?/?

But also, you get no respect from me for pretending to know everything
the A.I. does.  If anything, you get negative respect for being an A.I.
addict.

 > and I never read a Fiction book in my life!

What a dull life.  No wonder you appear to be hooked on fentanyl.


Well, best wishes getting rid of your A.I. and fentanyl addiction, I
guess.
-- 
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#674611

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-18 12:30 -0700
Message-ID<pi6adld6ng48d3n9t27rv51r5756gbop1e@4ax.com>
In reply to#674279
On Thu, 08 Oct 2026 16:26:06 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> 
>> On 10/9/2026 1:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > occam wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> >>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>> >>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>> >>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <snip>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
>> >>> go about that in the first place?
>> >>
>> >> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.
>> >
>> > Why don't you clean your gutters yourself?? You don't know how? Ask Ai,
>> > she'll tell you how.
>> >
>> >
>> > With the money you save you can use it to buy a ton of Fentanyl!
>> 
>> Didn't Jack Reacher get into trouble over some fentanyl adventure or
>> other in one of his books?  I admit ignorance, because I never watched
>> his movies, nor finished the T.V. show.
>> 
>> I'm sure the A.I. can tell you exactly which book, but then you have to
>> read it yourself if you want to have a manly male hero solve some crime
>> or other, and enjoy the story.  A /summary/ is not the story, and you
>> won't enjoy it if you don't read it yourself.  Which the A.I. cannot do
>> for you [1].
>> 
>> Of course, if you only care about consuming the fentanyl yourself, then
>> you probably haven't seen any of the Jack Reacher movies, nor the T.V.
>> show, nor read any of his books.  And what does that make you, who claim
>> to be /super intelligent/?
>
>
>President Donald Trump signed an executive order on September 29, 2026,
>officially renaming "Artificial Intelligence" (AI) to 
>
>"Super Intelligence" (SI) across all U.S. federal executive branch
>agencies. 
>
>I never claimed to be super intelligent...
>
>I have (SI) "Super Intelligence" (SI)
>
>
>everybody else has Ai
>
>
>and I never read a Fiction book in my life!
>
>as a kid
>i would go to
>the library
>to read books.
>I would follow
>the
>Dewey Decimal System
>it had there.
>
>So, I would look at all
>the books between
>001-999.
>
>There was a section
>in the back that had no
>Dewey Decimal System.
>It was called the Fiction section.
>It had no Dewey Decimal System
>numbers.
>It had no facts in it, or an Index,
>or anything resembling the
>Dewey Decimal System.
>
>Lot's of made up stuff.
>
>So, I didn't bother to
>this day with those
>type of books.
>
>That is where it belongs, in the back.
>
>I rather be a six year old
>learning how to dissemble a machine gun. 
>
>
>
>i never understood why others read fiction books.
>
>maybe girls read it..
>




another thing I notice about the Fiction section at
the library...the books didn't have any pictures in it!

No Index in the back of the book, no table of contents..
dusty, old, brown edge pages..dusty shelves..
dark, no lights...

GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!!

I made a few attempts to TRY to read a fiction book..
I cannot get pass the first paragraph!

I get sleepy. AFTER ONE PARAGRAPH!

How in the world am I going to get past the first page????

Is like my mind was an Ai and saying to me "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU
DOING???"

But I can read a non-fiction book from front to back...and kept awake!


Is Poetry fiction?

It's mostly one paragraph and I can finish dat quickly.,


But I notice a book of Quotations, just reading one single
quotation in a book is life changing.

but I don't think it's in the fiction section.



Where is the science fiction section in the library???





--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#674621

FromBlaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com>
Date2026-10-18 16:17 -0600
Message-ID<11b3gi2$1hpjj$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#674611
The Starmaker wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Oct 2026 16:26:06 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
>> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/9/2026 1:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> occam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>>>>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
>>>>>> go about that in the first place?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you clean your gutters yourself?? You don't know how? Ask Ai,
>>>> she'll tell you how.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With the money you save you can use it to buy a ton of Fentanyl!
>>>
>>> Didn't Jack Reacher get into trouble over some fentanyl adventure or
>>> other in one of his books?  I admit ignorance, because I never watched
>>> his movies, nor finished the T.V. show.
>>>
>>> I'm sure the A.I. can tell you exactly which book, but then you have to
>>> read it yourself if you want to have a manly male hero solve some crime
>>> or other, and enjoy the story.  A /summary/ is not the story, and you
>>> won't enjoy it if you don't read it yourself.  Which the A.I. cannot do
>>> for you [1].
>>>
>>> Of course, if you only care about consuming the fentanyl yourself, then
>>> you probably haven't seen any of the Jack Reacher movies, nor the T.V.
>>> show, nor read any of his books.  And what does that make you, who claim
>>> to be /super intelligent/?
>>
>>
>> President Donald Trump signed an executive order on September 29, 2026,
>> officially renaming "Artificial Intelligence" (AI) to
>>
>> "Super Intelligence" (SI) across all U.S. federal executive branch
>> agencies.
>>
>> I never claimed to be super intelligent...
>>
>> I have (SI) "Super Intelligence" (SI)
>>
>>
>> everybody else has Ai
>>
>>
>> and I never read a Fiction book in my life!
>>
>> as a kid
>> i would go to
>> the library
>> to read books.
>> I would follow
>> the
>> Dewey Decimal System
>> it had there.
>>
>> So, I would look at all
>> the books between
>> 001-999.
>>
>> There was a section
>> in the back that had no
>> Dewey Decimal System.
>> It was called the Fiction section.
>> It had no Dewey Decimal System
>> numbers.
>> It had no facts in it, or an Index,
>> or anything resembling the
>> Dewey Decimal System.
>>
>> Lot's of made up stuff.
>>
>> So, I didn't bother to
>> this day with those
>> type of books.
>>
>> That is where it belongs, in the back.
>>
>> I rather be a six year old
>> learning how to dissemble a machine gun.
>>
>>
>>
>> i never understood why others read fiction books.
>>
>> maybe girls read it..
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> another thing I notice about the Fiction section at
> the library...the books didn't have any pictures in it!
> 
> No Index in the back of the book, no table of contents..
> dusty, old, brown edge pages..dusty shelves..
> dark, no lights...
> 
> GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!!
> 
> I made a few attempts to TRY to read a fiction book..
> I cannot get pass the first paragraph!
> 
> I get sleepy. AFTER ONE PARAGRAPH!
> 
> How in the world am I going to get past the first page????
> 
> Is like my mind was an Ai and saying to me "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU
> DOING???"
> 
> But I can read a non-fiction book from front to back...and kept awake!

You should get some sleep. It sounds just like one of my early manic 
episodes. No pictures in the fiction books? Not even on the covers?

-- 
Can you strip away so we may start again?
"There’s a switch and they don't
seem authentic or themselves. It
feels like I’m an unnecessary
body and it’s a waste of time to
even be there." -- Grim, playful Blaine.

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#674622

FromTitus G <noone@nowhere.com>
Date2026-10-19 11:26 +1300
Message-ID<11b3h4j$1hrhs$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#674621
On 19/10/2026 11:17, Blaine wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
snip

>> But I can read a non-fiction book from front to back...and kept awake!

> You should get some sleep. It sounds just like one of my early manic
> episodes. No pictures in the fiction books? Not even on the covers?

Before snippage, that was a massive post. Would you please snip
unnecessary stuff, especially from trolls.


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#674623

FromBlaine <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com>
Date2026-10-18 16:49 -0600
Message-ID<11b3idg$1ic2a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#674622
Titus G wrote:
> On 19/10/2026 11:17, Blaine wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
> snip
> 
>>> But I can read a non-fiction book from front to back...and kept awake!
> 
>> You should get some sleep. It sounds just like one of my early manic
>> episodes. No pictures in the fiction books? Not even on the covers?
> 
> Before snippage, that was a massive post. Would you please snip
> unnecessary stuff, especially from trolls.
> 
But I referenced the first sentence in what I wrote? Would you suggest I 
keep the first sentence, lay down some introductory Screaming Trees 
tracks, and then pop out the last bit I was also responding to? And, how 
are you not the troll in this equation? Got a badge?

-- 
Can you strip away so we may start again?
"There’s a switch and they don't
seem authentic or themselves. It
feels like I’m an unnecessary
body and it’s a waste of time to
even be there." -- Grim, playful Blaine.

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#674282

FromPeter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
Date2026-10-09 10:49 +1100
Message-ID<11a9a5e$aia4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#674277
On 09/10/26 07:37, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:

> And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/?

Trump started this super intelligent business. "Super intelligent" means
"exactly as smart as Trump", i.e. as thick as two short planks. Which
makes me wonder why you bother reply to the idiot. You're only bypassing
our kill files.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#674283

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-10-08 17:17 -0700
Message-ID<aw2dndnPo7w0r1X3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#674282
On 10/08/2026 04:49 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 09/10/26 07:37, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>
>> And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/?
>
> Trump started this super intelligent business. "Super intelligent" means
> "exactly as smart as Trump", i.e. as thick as two short planks. Which
> makes me wonder why you bother reply to the idiot. You're only bypassing
> our kill files.
>

No, Trump, the festering idiot, didn't coin "superintelligence", where
there's basically a book called "Superintelligence" with the likes of
George Anas about "ethics of superintelligence" which I'm quite sure
he never read.


"Journal of Science Fiction and Philosophy" -- https://jsfphil.org/

https://omnia.sas.upenn.edu/story/science-fiction-and-philosophy



Giant Haircut


Trump, that criminal, the other day said that anybody who didn't change
their vocabulary was, in all upper-case, "THE ENEMY".  Bad idea.

Terrorists, then traitors, then truants:  looking more like train-wreck.


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#674285

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-09 09:39 +0800
Message-ID<HBXxS.10404$mPXe.500@fx06.ams4>
In reply to#674282
On 10/9/2026 7:49 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 09/10/26 07:37, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
>> And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/?
> 
> Trump started this super intelligent business. "Super intelligent" means
> "exactly as smart as Trump", i.e. as thick as two short planks. Which
> makes me wonder why you bother reply to the idiot. You're only bypassing
> our kill files.
> 

Sorry about that.  I guess I was slightly bored.  I'll try not to reply
to /the idiot/ much more.
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I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
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#674286

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-10-08 19:02 -0700
Message-ID<TJOcnSn_lrnT1lX3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#674285
On 10/08/2026 06:39 PM, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> On 10/9/2026 7:49 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 09/10/26 07:37, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>>
>>> And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/?
>>
>> Trump started this super intelligent business. "Super intelligent" means
>> "exactly as smart as Trump", i.e. as thick as two short planks. Which
>> makes me wonder why you bother reply to the idiot. You're only bypassing
>> our kill files.
>>
>
> Sorry about that.  I guess I was slightly bored.  I'll try not to reply
> to /the idiot/ much more.


Stuporintelligence

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#674287

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-08 20:12 -0700
Message-ID<6AC85B90.2396@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674285
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> On 10/9/2026 7:49 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > On 09/10/26 07:37, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> >
> >> And what does that make you, who claim to be /super intelligent/?
> >
> > Trump started this super intelligent business. "Super intelligent" means
> > "exactly as smart as Trump", i.e. as thick as two short planks. Which
> > makes me wonder why you bother reply to the idiot. You're only bypassing
> > our kill files.
> >
> 
> Sorry about that.  I guess I was slightly bored.  I'll try not to reply
> to /the idiot/ much more.

Sorry, I didn't know this was a moderated newsgroup. I only post to
ummoderated newsgroups.


Let me double check this newsgroup:alt.usage.english,

strange...it appears to me to be a unmoderated newsgroup.

Do you have one of those unauthorized moderatos here????

FUCK HIM!!!! Tell him I said "Go fuck your mother!"

You know, I think I might have to take over this
newsgroup:,alt.usage.english,

IT'S MINE!

I OWN IT!!

If you post to: ,alt.usage.english, 

it's only because I ALLOW IT!

From now on, everybody in ,alt.usage.english, is going to have to learn
how to speak English!

I will be checking everybodys speling...so watch out!





> --
> Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
> I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
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> Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674276

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2026-10-09 09:27 +1300
Message-ID<11a8ubg$6gqt$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#674262
On 2026-10-08 07:02:30 +0000, occam said:

> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> <snip>
>>> 
>> 
>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
>> go about that in the first place?
> 
> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.

Mine too.  :-)

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#674288

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-08 20:16 -0700
Message-ID<6AC85C88.44F2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674276
Your Name wrote:
> 
> On 2026-10-08 07:02:30 +0000, occam said:
> 
> > On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
> >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
> >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>
> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
> >> go about that in the first place?
> >
> > Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.
> 
> Mine too.  :-)

What's your name?


Do you have a tattoo with your name on it?



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674280

FromPeter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
Date2026-10-09 10:29 +1100
Message-ID<11a990o$a75h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#674262
On 08/10/26 18:02, occam wrote:
> On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:

>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How
>> do I go about that in the first place?
>
> Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.

Thanks for the reminder. Bush fire season is starting early this year,
and promises to be worse than ever before.

At least weather patterns leak only slowly across the equator. Canada
and Europe have paid heavily for Trump's failure to slow down climate
change. The main risk to us comes from El Niño and data centres.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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#674289

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-08 20:22 -0700
Message-ID<6AC85DFF.54A6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674280
Peter Moylan wrote:
> 
> On 08/10/26 18:02, occam wrote:
> > On 07/10/2026 20:03, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How
> >> do I go about that in the first place?
> >
> > Can you clean gutters? My roof gutters need cleaning.
> 
> Thanks for the reminder. Bush fire season is starting early this year,
> and promises to be worse than ever before.
> 
> At least weather patterns leak only slowly across the equator. Canada
> and Europe have paid heavily for Trump's failure to slow down climate
> change. The main risk to us comes from El Niño and data centres.
> 
> --
> Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
> Newcastle, NSW


Oh, he'a also a weatherman here...it'11 be cold and
           overcast, high today in the low
           30's, dropping to the low 20's
           tonight, but I'm predicting that
           all that moisture coming up from
           the Gulf is going to miss us and
           dump some locally heavy snow,
           possibly blizzard conditions with
           travel advisories in the
           Harrisburg area and maybe as far
           east as Philadelphia.


I get it, Peter Moyan thinks he's GOD!


you think i can convince Peter to give me a brain???

i leave in El Lay, wats the chance of rain tonight?

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674275

Fromsqualk <sq@net.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 20:17 +0100
Message-ID<cSCdnZ8FoLfxcVr3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#674229
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>
>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
>>
>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
>>
>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
>> processes."
>>
>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
>>
>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
>> better, quicker and cheaper.
> 
> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
> go about that in the first place?

====================================

Use your head.

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#674278

FromJohann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>
Date2026-10-09 04:43 +0800
Message-ID<cgTxS.11568$AQqd.7842@fx11.ams4>
In reply to#674275
On 10/9/2026 3:17 AM, squalk wrote:
> Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
>> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you 
>>>> think it
>>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
>>>
>>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
>>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
>>>
>>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
>>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
>>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
>>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
>>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
>>> processes."
>>>
>>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
>>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
>>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
>>>
>>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
>>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
>>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
>>> better, quicker and cheaper.
>>
>> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
>> go about that in the first place?
> 
> ====================================
> 
> Use your head.

As previously discussed here in alt.usage.english, the /head/ is a loo
on a naval ship.  And I lack one of those.  You're free to use the head
in your very own naval ship, of course; I presume you paid for it out of
your own pocket, after all.

Now, If you pay attention to the /context/, I was asking occam what hap-
pens when a human needs to do something the A.I. cannot?  Because if I
read this correctly, occam is trying to claim that the A.I. can just do
everything, given the right prompts.

I disagree.  And I disagree so vehemently, I bought myself a bookshelf
of cryptographic books, and another of compiler literature.  You can see
the pictures on my BlueSky account, linked below.

So, squalk, how much do you put your money where your mouth is, and can
you show us pictures of the library you presumably have in your very own
naval ship?  In other words, how much do you use your own /head/?
-- 
Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social

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#674290

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-08 20:26 -0700
Message-ID<6AC85EF4.2627@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674278
Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> On 10/9/2026 3:17 AM, squalk wrote:
> > Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> >> On 10/7/2026 11:15 PM, occam wrote:
> >>> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
> >>>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you
> >>>> think it
> >>>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
> >>>
> >>> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
> >>> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
> >>>
> >>> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
> >>> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
> >>> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
> >>> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
> >>> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
> >>> processes."
> >>>
> >>> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
> >>> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
> >>> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
> >>>
> >>> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
> >>> The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
> >>> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
> >>> better, quicker and cheaper.
> >>
> >> So, what happens if I want to do something the A.I. cannot do?  How do I
> >> go about that in the first place?
> >
> > ====================================
> >
> > Use your head.
> 
> As previously discussed here in alt.usage.english, the /head/ is a loo
> on a naval ship.  And I lack one of those.  You're free to use the head
> in your very own naval ship, of course; I presume you paid for it out of
> your own pocket, after all.
> 
> Now, If you pay attention to the /context/, I was asking occam what hap-
> pens when a human needs to do something the A.I. cannot?  Because if I
> read this correctly, occam is trying to claim that the A.I. can just do
> everything, given the right prompts.
> 
> I disagree.  And I disagree so vehemently, I bought myself a bookshelf
> of cryptographic books, and another of compiler literature.  You can see
> the pictures on my BlueSky account, linked below.
> 
> So, squalk, how much do you put your money where your mouth is, and can
> you show us pictures of the library you presumably have in your very own
> naval ship?  In other words, how much do you use your own /head/?



You can always ask a girl to give you head.

i rather have a girl give me head instead of using my own head.




> --
> Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/
> I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com
> https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
> Federated at https://fed.brid.gy/bsky/myrkraverk.bsky.social

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674243

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2026-10-08 11:00 +1300
Message-ID<11a6fdh$39e5f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#674223
On 2026-10-07 15:15:13 +0000, occam said:
> On 02/10/2026 22:51, Bob wrote:
>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> writes:
>> 
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> 
>> The funny thing is, it does not seem to get us anywhere. Do you think it
>> will, well, get us anywhere, well, good?
> 
> It already has. There are plenty of positive contributions of AI around.
> <https://cacm.acm.org/news/scientific-applications-of-generative-ai/>
> 
> If you want more specifics, look at AlfaFold 2.
> "Demis Hassabis was awarded the Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking work
> in protein structure prediction. This research utilized artificial
> intelligence models, particularly AlphaFold2, to predict the complex
> structures of proteins, which are essential for understanding biological
> processes."
> 
> The reason for your exasperation is that most of the journalistic
> coverage you read about is the negative stuff; fake videos & photos;
> made up scientific papers with fake references; Fake news; etc.
> 
> The good stuff takes longer to develop. And it is not very sensational.
> The reason why most journalist like to criticize  AI is because they
> feel threatened by it. AI is capable of doing what they do - only
> better, quicker and cheaper.

... and with far more errors, that actual people then have to fix.  :-p



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#673969

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-30 13:30 -0700
Message-ID<6ABD7160.44BD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673901
guido wugi wrote:
> 
> Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> > Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> 
> What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> irrationality?

It's not Ai, it's Si.


and the universe is irrationality.

> 
> --
> guido wugi

guena? leave the gun, take the cannoli.

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674057

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-01 22:22 -0700
Message-ID<6ABF3FA5.3EE6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673901
Silvano wrote:
> 
> guido wugi hat am 30.09.2026 um 10:14 geschrieben:
> > Op 30/09/2026 om 4:11 schreef The Starmaker:
> >> Does anybody here have Super Intelligence besides me?
> >
> > What's more dangerous: artificial intelligence or genuine human
> > irrationality?
> >
> 
> Artificial stupidity, IMHO.

dat would be The Three Stooges show, or the Abbot and Costello show,
or any tvee show with a laugh track.


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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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