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What are perfect clocks

Started byMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
First post2026-10-04 16:17 +0200
Last post2026-10-06 20:18 -0700
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  What are perfect clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-04 16:17 +0200
    Re: What are perfect clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:25 -0700
      Re: What are perfect clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-04 20:50 +0200
        Re: What are perfect clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 13:02 -0700
          Re: What are perfect clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-05 07:02 +0200
            Re: What are perfect clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-05 10:38 -0700
              Re: What are perfect clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-06 06:49 +0200
                Re: What are perfect clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-05 22:15 -0700
                  Re: What are perfect clocks Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-10-06 08:19 +0200
                  Re: What are perfect clocks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-06 20:18 -0700

#674175 — What are perfect clocks

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-10-04 16:17 +0200
SubjectWhat are perfect clocks
Message-ID<18db594c631dcc72$98574$908382$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com>
Poor piece of shit Python can give the answer:
perfect clocks are the one measuring proper time.
Proper time is, of course - "what perfect clocks
measure". Substituting - we get:

Perfect clocks are the ones that measure
what they measure.

Let's all praise infinite wisdom of relativistic
idiots.

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#674181

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-04 11:25 -0700
Message-ID<6AC29A0D.7F7D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674175
A perfect clock would be the universal clock.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674183

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-10-04 20:50 +0200
Message-ID<18db682fb376c852$96762$900885$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#674181
On 10/4/2026 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> A perfect clock would be the universal clock.
> 
> 
> 

Perfect is relative. Fir The Shit
woeshipers perfect clocks are the clocks
fitting their idiocies, of cours (and,
apart of that - measuring what they measure,
as their definition states).

For sane people perfect clocks are
synchronized clocks (that's not a
definition, but a necessary condition).

So were they for pre-einsteinian
physicists - seems they were mostly
sane, even with this mystical mumbo
jumbo their moronic religion is adding
to everything it can't comprehend.

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#674184

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-04 13:02 -0700
Message-ID<6AC2B0BD.2D8B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674183
=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> On 10/4/2026 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > A perfect clock would be the universal clock.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Perfect is relative. Fir The Shit
> woeshipers perfect clocks are the clocks
> fitting their idiocies, of cours (and,
> apart of that - measuring what they measure,
> as their definition states).
> 
> For sane people perfect clocks are
> synchronized clocks (that's not a
> definition, but a necessary condition).
> 
> So were they for pre-einsteinian
> physicists - seems they were mostly
> sane, even with this mystical mumbo
> jumbo their moronic religion is adding
> to everything it can't comprehend.

I was refering to Newton's clock:

It continues ticking along, as a perfect machine, with its gears
governed by the laws of physics,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clockwork_universe



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674188

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-10-05 07:02 +0200
Message-ID<18db8993fd7aa85e$121486$867271$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#674184
On 10/4/2026 10:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>
>> On 10/4/2026 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> A perfect clock would be the universal clock.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Perfect is relative. Fir The Shit
>> woeshipers perfect clocks are the clocks
>> fitting their idiocies, of cours (and,
>> apart of that - measuring what they measure,
>> as their definition states).
>>
>> For sane people perfect clocks are
>> synchronized clocks (that's not a
>> definition, but a necessary condition).
>>
>> So were they for pre-einsteinian
>> physicists - seems they were mostly
>> sane, even with this mystical mumbo
>> jumbo their moronic religion is adding
>> to everything it can't comprehend.
> 
> I was refering to Newton's clock:
> 
> It continues ticking along, as a perfect machine, with its gears
> governed by the laws of physics,

Mystical  magic, as expected from a physicist.

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#674193

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-05 10:38 -0700
Message-ID<6AC3E09F.67B9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674188
=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> On 10/4/2026 10:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/4/2026 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> A perfect clock would be the universal clock.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Perfect is relative. Fir The Shit
> >> woeshipers perfect clocks are the clocks
> >> fitting their idiocies, of cours (and,
> >> apart of that - measuring what they measure,
> >> as their definition states).
> >>
> >> For sane people perfect clocks are
> >> synchronized clocks (that's not a
> >> definition, but a necessary condition).
> >>
> >> So were they for pre-einsteinian
> >> physicists - seems they were mostly
> >> sane, even with this mystical mumbo
> >> jumbo their moronic religion is adding
> >> to everything it can't comprehend.
> >
> > I was refering to Newton's clock:
> >
> > It continues ticking along, as a perfect machine, with its gears
> > governed by the laws of physics,
> 
> Mystical  magic, as expected from a physicist.

i didn't know Newton's motion of the planets was...Mystical.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674198

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-10-06 06:49 +0200
Message-ID<18dbd77976fd6a01$124898$867271$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#674193
On 10/5/2026 7:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>
>> On 10/4/2026 10:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/4/2026 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> A perfect clock would be the universal clock.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perfect is relative. Fir The Shit
>>>> woeshipers perfect clocks are the clocks
>>>> fitting their idiocies, of cours (and,
>>>> apart of that - measuring what they measure,
>>>> as their definition states).
>>>>
>>>> For sane people perfect clocks are
>>>> synchronized clocks (that's not a
>>>> definition, but a necessary condition).
>>>>
>>>> So were they for pre-einsteinian
>>>> physicists - seems they were mostly
>>>> sane, even with this mystical mumbo
>>>> jumbo their moronic religion is adding
>>>> to everything it can't comprehend.
>>>
>>> I was refering to Newton's clock:
>>>
>>> It continues ticking along, as a perfect machine, with its gears
>>> governed by the laws of physics,
>>
>> Mystical  magic, as expected from a physicist.
> 
> i didn't know Newton's motion of the planets was...Mystical.


Oh, planet motion is simple enough even for a
physicist.
But - how do we know something is perfect -
is not quantum physics, it's complicated.



> 
> 

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#674199

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-05 22:15 -0700
Message-ID<6AC483EF.227A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674198
=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> On 10/5/2026 7:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/4/2026 10:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/4/2026 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> A perfect clock would be the universal clock.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Perfect is relative. Fir The Shit
> >>>> woeshipers perfect clocks are the clocks
> >>>> fitting their idiocies, of cours (and,
> >>>> apart of that - measuring what they measure,
> >>>> as their definition states).
> >>>>
> >>>> For sane people perfect clocks are
> >>>> synchronized clocks (that's not a
> >>>> definition, but a necessary condition).
> >>>>
> >>>> So were they for pre-einsteinian
> >>>> physicists - seems they were mostly
> >>>> sane, even with this mystical mumbo
> >>>> jumbo their moronic religion is adding
> >>>> to everything it can't comprehend.
> >>>
> >>> I was refering to Newton's clock:
> >>>
> >>> It continues ticking along, as a perfect machine, with its gears
> >>> governed by the laws of physics,
> >>
> >> Mystical  magic, as expected from a physicist.
> >
> > i didn't know Newton's motion of the planets was...Mystical.
> 
> Oh, planet motion is simple enough even for a
> physicist.
> But - how do we know something is perfect -
> is not quantum physics, it's complicated.
> 
> >
> >

It's not complicated. It's simple.

She goes into the house
and the soup is too hot
and the other soup is too cold..
and then she say, "This one is Perfect!"

"Just right" means that something is completely suitable, correct, or
precisely as it should be without needing any changes


Synonyms
• Perfect

https://www.google.com/search?q=define+just+right



It's quantumn, and it's simple.

It's a Goldilocks Universe.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#674201

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2026-10-06 08:19 +0200
Message-ID<18dbdc5dd4de32fd$125937$867271$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#674199
On 10/6/2026 7:15 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>
>> On 10/5/2026 7:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/4/2026 10:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/4/2026 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> A perfect clock would be the universal clock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perfect is relative. Fir The Shit
>>>>>> woeshipers perfect clocks are the clocks
>>>>>> fitting their idiocies, of cours (and,
>>>>>> apart of that - measuring what they measure,
>>>>>> as their definition states).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For sane people perfect clocks are
>>>>>> synchronized clocks (that's not a
>>>>>> definition, but a necessary condition).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So were they for pre-einsteinian
>>>>>> physicists - seems they were mostly
>>>>>> sane, even with this mystical mumbo
>>>>>> jumbo their moronic religion is adding
>>>>>> to everything it can't comprehend.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was refering to Newton's clock:
>>>>>
>>>>> It continues ticking along, as a perfect machine, with its gears
>>>>> governed by the laws of physics,
>>>>
>>>> Mystical  magic, as expected from a physicist.
>>>
>>> i didn't know Newton's motion of the planets was...Mystical.
>>
>> Oh, planet motion is simple enough even for a
>> physicist.
>> But - how do we know something is perfect -
>> is not quantum physics, it's complicated.
>>
>>>
>>>
> 
> It's not complicated. It's simple.
> 
> She goes into the house
> and the soup is too hot
> and the other soup is too cold..
> and then she say, "This one is Perfect!"

Simple, you say... so, tell me - why
doesn't she  say "etot sup zamechatelnyi"
instead?

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#674217

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-10-06 20:18 -0700
Message-ID<6AC5BA1A.38AA@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#674199
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >
> > On 10/5/2026 7:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 10/4/2026 10:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 10/4/2026 8:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>> A perfect clock would be the universal clock.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Perfect is relative. Fir The Shit
> > >>>> woeshipers perfect clocks are the clocks
> > >>>> fitting their idiocies, of cours (and,
> > >>>> apart of that - measuring what they measure,
> > >>>> as their definition states).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For sane people perfect clocks are
> > >>>> synchronized clocks (that's not a
> > >>>> definition, but a necessary condition).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So were they for pre-einsteinian
> > >>>> physicists - seems they were mostly
> > >>>> sane, even with this mystical mumbo
> > >>>> jumbo their moronic religion is adding
> > >>>> to everything it can't comprehend.
> > >>>
> > >>> I was refering to Newton's clock:
> > >>>
> > >>> It continues ticking along, as a perfect machine, with its gears
> > >>> governed by the laws of physics,
> > >>
> > >> Mystical  magic, as expected from a physicist.
> > >
> > > i didn't know Newton's motion of the planets was...Mystical.
> >
> > Oh, planet motion is simple enough even for a
> > physicist.
> > But - how do we know something is perfect -
> > is not quantum physics, it's complicated.
> >
> > >
> > >
> 
> It's not complicated. It's simple.
> 
> She goes into the house
> and the soup is too hot
> and the other soup is too cold..
> and then she say, "This one is Perfect!"
> 
> "Just right" means that something is completely suitable, correct, or
> precisely as it should be without needing any changes
> 
> Synonyms
> • Perfect
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=define+just+right
> 
> It's quantumn, and it's simple.
> 
> It's a Goldilocks Universe.

Let me explain what that means...

for example: if gravity were slightly stronger, stars would burn too
hot...
if it were ever so slightly weaker, earth could not hold on to it's
atmosphere.


The earth is perfect!




https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=the+goldilocks+universe





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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