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Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere (continuous domain, infinity and laws of large numbers)

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  Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere (continuous domain, infinity and laws of large numbers) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-30 08:16 -0700
    Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere (continuous domain, infinity and laws of large numbers) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-09-08 08:59 -0700
      Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-09 12:17 -0700
        Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-11 09:11 -0700
          Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-12 09:38 -0700
            Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-12 21:26 -0700
              Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-13 11:01 -0700
                Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-15 11:38 -0700
                  Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-09-15 21:13 +0200
                    Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-15 15:33 -0700
                      Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-09-16 01:44 +0200
                        Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-15 21:13 -0700
                          Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 22:42 -0700
                        Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-09-16 09:45 -0700

#670551 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere (continuous domain, infinity and laws of large numbers)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-03-30 08:16 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere (continuous domain, infinity and laws of large numbers)
Message-ID<95acnfvoCv59Dlf0nZ2dnZfqn_eanIyv@giganews.com>
On 11/26/2024 05:18 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 11/26/2024 01:27 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Sonntag000024, 24.11.2024 um 19:16 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
>>> On 11/24/2024 12:53 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>> Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/12/2024 02:57 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>> Riemann was a brilliant geometer who made the elementary error of
>>>>>> reifying space by claiming parallel lines could meet. Schwarzschild
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Einstein carried through with that mistake, making people believe
>>>>>> it was
>>>>>> intelligent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Art students know there's a point at infinity.
>>
>> 'at' and 'point' mean essentially the same thing.
>>
>> But it is, of course, wrong to assign a point to infinity, because
>> infinity is not a point and it is impossible to be there (hence there is
>> no 'at').
>>
>>
>>>> A whole line at infinity of them, even,
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>
>>> One idea about the quadrant is to shrink it to a box,
>>
>> It is also impossible to shrink infinity in any way, because infinity
>> will remain infinitely large, even after significant shrinking.
>>
>>> given that the ray from origin (in a Cartesian space)
>>> in x = y is an "identity dimension" and rather "original"
>>> itself, then that the hyperbola, xy = 1 andx = 1/y and y = 1/x,
>>> its corner, is parameterized to go out the identity line
>>> and result in the limit connecting (0, \infty) and (\infty, 0).
>>
>>
>>
>> inf = 1/0
>>
>> hence
>>
>> inf * 0 =1
>>
>> hence
>>
>> 0/inf = 1/inf²
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> but infinity is also not a number!
>>
>>
>> TH
>> ...
>
> The "infinity, mathematical" is an interesting thing,
> I enjoy studying it and have studied it since at least
> thirty years, though also at least about forty-five
> years ago the word "INFINITY" was in the language.
>
> Sort of like "ALL" and other universals - INFINITY
> is always in the context.
>
> That "infinity-many iota-values either sum to or produce 1",
> is the idea of standard infinitesimals that just like a
> line integral and the line elements or path integral, in
> a line, and path elements, makes that mathematical and
> the mathematical physics particularly has infinity.
>
> Are you familiar with "mathematical formalism the
> modern mathematics way: axiomatic set theory with
> descriptive set theory in model theory"?
>
> See, here there are at least three models of continuous
> domains, where the usual account of "set theory's" (really
> meaning the "a standard linear curriculum" as with regards
> to what "mathematical foundations", is, i.e. set theory
> plus models of rationals after integers then LUB and
> measure 1.0 furthermore axioms), the usual account, has
> one, the Archimedean field reals, that here there are
> first line reals, or infinitely-many constant iota-values
> in a row, line-reals, then field-reals for example by
> the standard formalism, then signal-reals, and getting
> involved with real halving- and doubling- spaces that
> taking individua of continua sometimes doubles and
> sometimes halves, the real analytical character.
>
> So, I must imagine that you have each these three
> kinds of continuous domains in your theory, as with
> regards then to various law(s), plural, of large
> numbers (infinities, actually, effectively, practically,
> or potentially).
>
> Surely your mathematical physics for real analysis at some
> point employs these three, not inter-changeable or
> equi-interpretable, yet according to "bridges" or
> "ponts" pretty much the integers or bounds, like they
> are called the path integral or real numbers or
> signal theory.
>
> Yes, no?
>
>

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#673023

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-08 08:59 -0700
Message-ID<4MGcnXjJGJm1rD33nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#670551
On 03/30/2026 08:16 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 11/26/2024 05:18 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On 11/26/2024 01:27 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag000024, 24.11.2024 um 19:16 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
>>>> On 11/24/2024 12:53 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/12/2024 02:57 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>> Riemann was a brilliant geometer who made the elementary error of
>>>>>>> reifying space by claiming parallel lines could meet. Schwarzschild
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Einstein carried through with that mistake, making people believe
>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>> intelligent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art students know there's a point at infinity.
>>>
>>> 'at' and 'point' mean essentially the same thing.
>>>
>>> But it is, of course, wrong to assign a point to infinity, because
>>> infinity is not a point and it is impossible to be there (hence there is
>>> no 'at').
>>>
>>>
>>>>> A whole line at infinity of them, even,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One idea about the quadrant is to shrink it to a box,
>>>
>>> It is also impossible to shrink infinity in any way, because infinity
>>> will remain infinitely large, even after significant shrinking.
>>>
>>>> given that the ray from origin (in a Cartesian space)
>>>> in x = y is an "identity dimension" and rather "original"
>>>> itself, then that the hyperbola, xy = 1 andx = 1/y and y = 1/x,
>>>> its corner, is parameterized to go out the identity line
>>>> and result in the limit connecting (0, \infty) and (\infty, 0).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> inf = 1/0
>>>
>>> hence
>>>
>>> inf * 0 =1
>>>
>>> hence
>>>
>>> 0/inf = 1/inf²
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> but infinity is also not a number!
>>>
>>>
>>> TH
>>> ...
>>
>> The "infinity, mathematical" is an interesting thing,
>> I enjoy studying it and have studied it since at least
>> thirty years, though also at least about forty-five
>> years ago the word "INFINITY" was in the language.
>>
>> Sort of like "ALL" and other universals - INFINITY
>> is always in the context.
>>
>> That "infinity-many iota-values either sum to or produce 1",
>> is the idea of standard infinitesimals that just like a
>> line integral and the line elements or path integral, in
>> a line, and path elements, makes that mathematical and
>> the mathematical physics particularly has infinity.
>>
>> Are you familiar with "mathematical formalism the
>> modern mathematics way: axiomatic set theory with
>> descriptive set theory in model theory"?
>>
>> See, here there are at least three models of continuous
>> domains, where the usual account of "set theory's" (really
>> meaning the "a standard linear curriculum" as with regards
>> to what "mathematical foundations", is, i.e. set theory
>> plus models of rationals after integers then LUB and
>> measure 1.0 furthermore axioms), the usual account, has
>> one, the Archimedean field reals, that here there are
>> first line reals, or infinitely-many constant iota-values
>> in a row, line-reals, then field-reals for example by
>> the standard formalism, then signal-reals, and getting
>> involved with real halving- and doubling- spaces that
>> taking individua of continua sometimes doubles and
>> sometimes halves, the real analytical character.
>>
>> So, I must imagine that you have each these three
>> kinds of continuous domains in your theory, as with
>> regards then to various law(s), plural, of large
>> numbers (infinities, actually, effectively, practically,
>> or potentially).
>>
>> Surely your mathematical physics for real analysis at some
>> point employs these three, not inter-changeable or
>> equi-interpretable, yet according to "bridges" or
>> "ponts" pretty much the integers or bounds, like they
>> are called the path integral or real numbers or
>> signal theory.
>>
>> Yes, no?
>>
>>
>

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#673058 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-09 12:17 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<6AA1B0C6.7E50@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673023
Of course the Universe is a Sphere!

Where do you think all theses 'curvatures' come from? Fron the curvature
of the universe which is round.

The earth is round
it goes round the sun
the galaxies are round..

if you want to know in which direction
the Universe is curved..

it's up this way.



 
                 '
            *          .    
                   *       ' 
              *                *
 



       
   *   '*
           *
                *        
                       *
               *  
                     *



Notice the curvature of the big and little dippers handles both curves
up.

up dat way



How do you think girls got their curves?


from the curvature of the universe.


the whole universe is spinning...




round and round she goes...










-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#673129 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-11 09:11 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<6AA42841.1380@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673058
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Of course the Universe is a Sphere!
> 
> Where do you think all theses 'curvatures' come from? From the curvature
> of the universe which is round.
> 
> The earth is round
> it goes round the sun
> the galaxies are round..
> 
> if you want to know in which direction
> the Universe is curved..
> 
> it's up this way.
> 
> 
>                  '
>             *          .
>                    *       '
>               *                *
> 
> 
> 
>    *   '*
>            *
>                 *
>                        *
>                *
>                      *
> 
> Notice the curvature of the big and little dippers handles both curves
> up.
> 
> up dat way
> 
> How do you think girls got their curves?
> 
> from the curvature of the universe.
> 
> the whole universe is spinning...
> 
> round and round she goes...
> 



Of course, you can go a Step further..

beyond your universe.

Imagine if  you will..you are enclosed in a balloon..
inside the balloon enclosed is all the heavens and the earth...

the balloon color is transparent.

So, that which you call dark matter is OUTSIDE the balloon.


If you want to know where the balloon came from...

you would have to get pass the 'dark matter' and search
for the entrance where the balloon came from.

A single Light
popped in
from beyond 
the dark matter.


This single Light
was contained
in a balloon.


The rest is ...Now.








-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#673168 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-12 09:38 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<6AA57FE9.25E2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673129
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Of course the Universe is a Sphere!
> >
> > Where do you think all theses 'curvatures' come from? From the curvature
> > of the universe which is round.
> >
> > The earth is round
> > it goes round the sun
> > the galaxies are round..
> >
> > if you want to know in which direction
> > the Universe is curved..
> >
> > it's up this way.
> >
> >
> >                  '
> >             *          .
> >                    *       '
> >               *                *
> >
> >
> >
> >    *   '*
> >            *
> >                 *
> >                        *
> >                *
> >                      *
> >
> > Notice the curvature of the big and little dippers handles both curves
> > up.
> >
> > up dat way
> >
> > How do you think girls got their curves?
> >
> > from the curvature of the universe.
> >
> > the whole universe is spinning...
> >
> > round and round she goes...
> >
> 
> Of course, you can go a Step further..
> 
> beyond your universe.
> 
> Imagine if  you will..you are enclosed in a balloon..
> inside the balloon enclosed is all the heavens and the earth...
> 
> the balloon color is transparent.
> 
> So, that which you call dark matter is OUTSIDE the balloon.
> 
> If you want to know where the balloon came from...
> 
> you would have to get pass the 'dark matter' and search
> for the entrance where the balloon came from.
> 
> A single Light
> popped in
> from beyond
> the dark matter.
> 
> This single Light
> was contained
> in a balloon.
> 
> The rest is ...Now.


The Earth, our earth...is the exact same size of a single atom.

(nevermind all the things on it)

a blue atom




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#673183 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-12 21:26 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<6AA625D9.21B8@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673168
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Of course the Universe is a Sphere!
> > >
> > > Where do you think all theses 'curvatures' come from? From the curvature
> > > of the universe which is round.
> > >
> > > The earth is round
> > > it goes round the sun
> > > the galaxies are round..
> > >
> > > if you want to know in which direction
> > > the Universe is curved..
> > >
> > > it's up this way.
> > >
> > >
> > >                  '
> > >             *          .
> > >                    *       '
> > >               *                *
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    *   '*
> > >            *
> > >                 *
> > >                        *
> > >                *
> > >                      *
> > >
> > > Notice the curvature of the big and little dippers handles both curves
> > > up.
> > >
> > > up dat way
> > >
> > > How do you think girls got their curves?
> > >
> > > from the curvature of the universe.
> > >
> > > the whole universe is spinning...
> > >
> > > round and round she goes...
> > >
> >
> > Of course, you can go a Step further..
> >
> > beyond your universe.
> >
> > Imagine if  you will..you are enclosed in a balloon..
> > inside the balloon enclosed is all the heavens and the earth...
> >
> > the balloon color is transparent.
> >
> > So, that which you call dark matter is OUTSIDE the balloon.
> >
> > If you want to know where the balloon came from...
> >
> > you would have to get pass the 'dark matter' and search
> > for the entrance where the balloon came from.
> >
> > A single Light
> > popped in
> > from beyond
> > the dark matter.
> >
> > This single Light
> > was contained
> > in a balloon.
> >
> > The rest is ...Now.
> 
> The Earth, our earth...is the exact same size of a single atom.
> 
> (nevermind all the things on it)


Wait a minute...
since the earth 
(relativity speaking)
is the size of an atom..
in comparison to the
rest of the universe..

And the universe
is within all
the dark matter..

that means the universe
is the size of an atom
(if not smaller)

then that leaves only 
one answer..

Yous people are not suppose to be here.

You are a mistake.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#673224 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-13 11:01 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<6AA6E4E3.3B0E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673183
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Of course the Universe is a Sphere!
> > > >
> > > > Where do you think all theses 'curvatures' come from? From the curvature
> > > > of the universe which is round.
> > > >
> > > > The earth is round
> > > > it goes round the sun
> > > > the galaxies are round..
> > > >
> > > > if you want to know in which direction
> > > > the Universe is curved..
> > > >
> > > > it's up this way.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                  '
> > > >             *          .
> > > >                    *       '
> > > >               *                *
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    *   '*
> > > >            *
> > > >                 *
> > > >                        *
> > > >                *
> > > >                      *
> > > >
> > > > Notice the curvature of the big and little dippers handles both curves
> > > > up.
> > > >
> > > > up dat way
> > > >
> > > > How do you think girls got their curves?
> > > >
> > > > from the curvature of the universe.
> > > >
> > > > the whole universe is spinning...
> > > >
> > > > round and round she goes...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Of course, you can go a Step further..
> > >
> > > beyond your universe.
> > >
> > > Imagine if  you will..you are enclosed in a balloon..
> > > inside the balloon enclosed is all the heavens and the earth...
> > >
> > > the balloon color is transparent.
> > >
> > > So, that which you call dark matter is OUTSIDE the balloon.
> > >
> > > If you want to know where the balloon came from...
> > >
> > > you would have to get pass the 'dark matter' and search
> > > for the entrance where the balloon came from.
> > >
> > > A single Light
> > > popped in
> > > from beyond
> > > the dark matter.
> > >
> > > This single Light
> > > was contained
> > > in a balloon.
> > >
> > > The rest is ...Now.
> >
> > The Earth, our earth...is the exact same size of a single atom.
> >
> > (nevermind all the things on it)
> 
> Wait a minute...
> since the earth
> (relativity speaking)
> is the size of an atom..
> in comparison to the
> rest of the universe..
> 
> And the universe
> is within all
> the dark matter..
> 
> that means the universe
> is the size of an atom
> (if not smaller)
> 
> then that leaves only
> one answer..
> 
> Yous people are not suppose to be here.
> 
> You are a mistake.
> 


Shakespeare said "All the world is a stage...."

Now, if you focus on the word "stage"..
where is the stage?

Dark matter IS the 'stage'.


Lights, camera, action!


is the heavens and the earth.


Dark matter is much much bigger than the universe.


But it appears to be beyond your level of understanding...



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#673314 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-15 11:38 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<6AA990AD.31E3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673224
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course the Universe is a Sphere!
> > > > >
> > > > > Where do you think all theses 'curvatures' come from? From the curvature
> > > > > of the universe which is round.
> > > > >
> > > > > The earth is round
> > > > > it goes round the sun
> > > > > the galaxies are round..
> > > > >
> > > > > if you want to know in which direction
> > > > > the Universe is curved..
> > > > >
> > > > > it's up this way.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >                  '
> > > > >             *          .
> > > > >                    *       '
> > > > >               *                *
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >    *   '*
> > > > >            *
> > > > >                 *
> > > > >                        *
> > > > >                *
> > > > >                      *
> > > > >
> > > > > Notice the curvature of the big and little dippers handles both curves
> > > > > up.
> > > > >
> > > > > up dat way
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you think girls got their curves?
> > > > >
> > > > > from the curvature of the universe.
> > > > >
> > > > > the whole universe is spinning...
> > > > >
> > > > > round and round she goes...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Of course, you can go a Step further..
> > > >
> > > > beyond your universe.
> > > >
> > > > Imagine if  you will..you are enclosed in a balloon..
> > > > inside the balloon enclosed is all the heavens and the earth...
> > > >
> > > > the balloon color is transparent.
> > > >
> > > > So, that which you call dark matter is OUTSIDE the balloon.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to know where the balloon came from...
> > > >
> > > > you would have to get pass the 'dark matter' and search
> > > > for the entrance where the balloon came from.
> > > >
> > > > A single Light
> > > > popped in
> > > > from beyond
> > > > the dark matter.
> > > >
> > > > This single Light
> > > > was contained
> > > > in a balloon.
> > > >
> > > > The rest is ...Now.
> > >
> > > The Earth, our earth...is the exact same size of a single atom.
> > >
> > > (nevermind all the things on it)
> >
> > Wait a minute...
> > since the earth
> > (relativity speaking)
> > is the size of an atom..
> > in comparison to the
> > rest of the universe..
> >
> > And the universe
> > is within all
> > the dark matter..
> >
> > that means the universe
> > is the size of an atom
> > (if not smaller)
> >
> > then that leaves only
> > one answer..
> >
> > Yous people are not suppose to be here.
> >
> > You are a mistake.
> >
> 
> Shakespeare said "All the world is a stage...."
> 
> Now, if you focus on the word "stage"..
> where is the stage?
> 
> Dark matter IS the 'stage'.
> 
> Lights, camera, action!
> 
> is the heavens and the earth.
> 
> Dark matter is much much bigger than the universe.
> 
> But it appears to be beyond your level of understanding...


The FACT is, dark matter is the foundation of gravity.

It is the dark matter that surrounds the enclosed universe you live in
that governs...gravity.


The machinery that operates gravity.



> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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#673315 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2026-09-15 21:13 +0200
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<118c5cv$1a5ub$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#673314
The Starmaker wrote:
> The FACT is, dark matter is the foundation of gravity.

Nonsense.

> It is the dark matter that surrounds the enclosed universe you live in
> that governs...gravity.

Nonsense.
> The machinery that operates gravity.

Nonsense.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#673319 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-15 15:33 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<6AA9C7A7.465A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673315
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > The FACT is, dark matter is the foundation of gravity.
> 
> Nonsense.
> 
> > It is the dark matter that surrounds the enclosed universe you live in
> > that governs...gravity.
> 
> Nonsense.
> > The machinery that operates gravity.
> 
> Nonsense.



Dark matter is thought to serve as gravitational scaffolding for cosmic
structures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#:~:text=Dark%20matter%20is%20thought%20to%20serve%20as%20gravitational%20scaffolding%20for%20cosmic%20structures.


https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold+dark+matter


all the world is a stage..

scaffold

A raised wooden stage
https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold


universe is 5%

26.8% dark matter

the rest dark. 68.2%
 

Take a quick dark matter class...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#:~:text=Dark%20matter%20is%20thought%20to%20serve%20as%20gravitational%20scaffolding%20for%20cosmic%20structures.





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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#673322 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2026-09-16 01:44 +0200
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<118cl8n$1an6q$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#673319
The Starmaker wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The FACT is, dark matter is the foundation of gravity.
>>
>> Nonsense.
>>
>>> It is the dark matter that surrounds the enclosed universe you live in
>>> that governs...gravity.
>>
>> Nonsense.
>>> The machinery that operates gravity.
>>
>> Nonsense.
> 
> Dark matter is thought to serve as gravitational scaffolding for cosmic
> structures.

That is somewhat correct ("gravitational scaffolding" is pop-sci
babble), but very different from what you said.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#:~:text=Dark%20matter%20is%20thought%20to%20serve%20as%20gravitational%20scaffolding%20for%20cosmic%20structures.
> 
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold+dark+matter
> 
> 
> all the world is a stage..
> 
> scaffold
> 
> A raised wooden stage
> https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold

Sigh. [psf 10.1]

  "We all have susceptibility to bias.  Search engines on the Internet
   are /the epitome/ of confirmation bias.  And you're gonna use /that/
   as evidence that you're /correct?/  /No./"

   --Neil deGrasse Tyson, astrophysicist and science communicator
     (in his "MasterClass" trailer,
     <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io6QdGcoWMU&t=1m12s>)

> universe is 5%

(sic!)

Vacuous statement.

> 26.8% dark matter
> 
> the rest dark. 68.2%

Dark _energy_.  Those are the _approximate_ fractions of the total
_energy density_ of our universe.
> Take a quick dark matter class...

I have taken a Master class on general relativity when I studied
Astrophysics at university.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#673328 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-15 21:13 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<6AAA1756.7C13@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673322
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> The FACT is, dark matter is the foundation of gravity.
> >>
> >> Nonsense.
> >>
> >>> It is the dark matter that surrounds the enclosed universe you live in
> >>> that governs...gravity.
> >>
> >> Nonsense.
> >>> The machinery that operates gravity.
> >>
> >> Nonsense.
> >
> > Dark matter is thought to serve as gravitational scaffolding for cosmic
> > structures.
> 
> That is somewhat correct ("gravitational scaffolding" is pop-sci
> babble), but very different from what you said.
> 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#:~:text=Dark%20matter%20is%20thought%20to%20serve%20as%20gravitational%20scaffolding%20for%20cosmic%20structures.
> >
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold+dark+matter
> >
> >
> > all the world is a stage..
> >
> > scaffold
> >
> > A raised wooden stage
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold
> 
> Sigh. [psf 10.1]
> 
>   "We all have susceptibility to bias.  Search engines on the Internet
>    are /the epitome/ of confirmation bias.  And you're gonna use /that/
>    as evidence that you're /correct?/  /No./"
> 
>    --Neil deGrasse Tyson, astrophysicist and science communicator
>      (in his "MasterClass" trailer,
>      <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io6QdGcoWMU&t=1m12s>)
> 
> > universe is 5%
> 
> (sic!)
> 
> Vacuous statement.
> 
> > 26.8% dark matter
> >
> > the rest dark. 68.2%
> 
> Dark _energy_.  Those are the _approximate_ fractions of the total
> _energy density_ of our universe.
> > Take a quick dark matter class...
> 
> I have taken a Master class on general relativity when I studied
> Astrophysics at university.



Dark matter has nothing to do with general relativity.


General relativity only relates to the enclosed universe...not the outer
shell of the universe where Dark Matter rules.


Dark matter has no need for general relativity.


You need to modify GR to fit DM.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#673329 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-15 22:42 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<bd6dndQbaM5RsTf3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#673328
On 09/15/2026 09:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> The FACT is, dark matter is the foundation of gravity.
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense.
>>>>
>>>>> It is the dark matter that surrounds the enclosed universe you live in
>>>>> that governs...gravity.
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense.
>>>>> The machinery that operates gravity.
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense.
>>>
>>> Dark matter is thought to serve as gravitational scaffolding for cosmic
>>> structures.
>>
>> That is somewhat correct ("gravitational scaffolding" is pop-sci
>> babble), but very different from what you said.
>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#:~:text=Dark%20matter%20is%20thought%20to%20serve%20as%20gravitational%20scaffolding%20for%20cosmic%20structures.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold+dark+matter
>>>
>>>
>>> all the world is a stage..
>>>
>>> scaffold
>>>
>>> A raised wooden stage
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold
>>
>> Sigh. [psf 10.1]
>>
>>    "We all have susceptibility to bias.  Search engines on the Internet
>>     are /the epitome/ of confirmation bias.  And you're gonna use /that/
>>     as evidence that you're /correct?/  /No./"
>>
>>     --Neil deGrasse Tyson, astrophysicist and science communicator
>>       (in his "MasterClass" trailer,
>>       <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io6QdGcoWMU&t=1m12s>)
>>
>>> universe is 5%
>>
>> (sic!)
>>
>> Vacuous statement.
>>
>>> 26.8% dark matter
>>>
>>> the rest dark. 68.2%
>>
>> Dark _energy_.  Those are the _approximate_ fractions of the total
>> _energy density_ of our universe.
>>> Take a quick dark matter class...
>>
>> I have taken a Master class on general relativity when I studied
>> Astrophysics at university.
>
>
>
> Dark matter has nothing to do with general relativity.
>
>
> General relativity only relates to the enclosed universe...not the outer
> shell of the universe where Dark Matter rules.
>
>
> Dark matter has no need for general relativity.
>
>
> You need to modify GR to fit DM.
>
>
>
>
>

Geometers only

No poets

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#673337 — Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2026-09-16 09:45 -0700
SubjectRe: The Universe Is Not A Sphere
Message-ID<6AAAC791.65AF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#673322
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> The FACT is, dark matter is the foundation of gravity.
> >>
> >> Nonsense.
> >>
> >>> It is the dark matter that surrounds the enclosed universe you live in
> >>> that governs...gravity.
> >>
> >> Nonsense.
> >>> The machinery that operates gravity.
> >>
> >> Nonsense.
> >
> > Dark matter is thought to serve as gravitational scaffolding for cosmic
> > structures.
> 
> That is somewhat correct ("gravitational scaffolding" is pop-sci
> babble), but very different from what you said.
> 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter#:~:text=Dark%20matter%20is%20thought%20to%20serve%20as%20gravitational%20scaffolding%20for%20cosmic%20structures.
> >
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold+dark+matter
> >
> >
> > all the world is a stage..
> >
> > scaffold
> >
> > A raised wooden stage
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=define+scaffold
> 
> Sigh. [psf 10.1]
> 
>   "We all have susceptibility to bias.  Search engines on the Internet
>    are /the epitome/ of confirmation bias.  And you're gonna use /that/
>    as evidence that you're /correct?/  /No./"
> 
>    --Neil deGrasse Tyson, astrophysicist and science communicator
>      (in his "MasterClass" trailer,
>      <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io6QdGcoWMU&t=1m12s>)
> 
> > universe is 5%
> 
> (sic!)
> 
> Vacuous statement.
> 
> > 26.8% dark matter
> >
> > the rest dark. 68.2%
> 
> Dark _energy_.  Those are the _approximate_ fractions of the total
> _energy density_ of our universe.
> > Take a quick dark matter class...
> 
> I have taken a Master class on general relativity when I studied
> Astrophysics at university.

So, first your Master class claims it is  "Nonsense.", then you upgraded
it to "confirmation bias.", ...
its dat your 'Scientific Method' for discovering new laws of Nature????


Neil deGrasse Tyson is a Brown Nose. Neil deGrasse Tyson doesn't know
how many planets are contained in our own solar system unless
his White scientists friends tell him how many are there. He is a Black
Parrot that repeats his White Parrot words.

Brown Nose science is not science. Neil deGrasse Tyson doesn not have a
mind of his own. He is a lemming. A TV scientists.

I can see the Brown on his Brown nose...it reeks with excrement.







> 
> --
> PointedEars
> 
> Twitter: @PointedEars2
> Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

-- 
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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