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  Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 11:00 -0700
    Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:02 -0700
      Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:26 -0700
        Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 12:29 -0700
        Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:32 -0700
          Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:47 -0700
            Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:54 -0700
              Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 13:02 -0700
                Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 13:08 -0700
              Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 13:18 -0700
                Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 13:33 -0700
                Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 13:36 -0700
            Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 23:24 -0700
              Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 10:53 -0700
                Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 11:39 -0700
                  Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 11:43 -0700
                    Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 13:30 -0700
                      Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 13:38 -0700
                        Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 14:04 -0700
                          Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 14:16 -0700
                          Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 14:40 -0700
                            Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:52 -0700
                              Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 16:00 -0700
                                Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 23:04 -0500
                                  Re: Missing Sub whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-24 00:10 -0500
                                  Re: Missing Sub George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 23:19 -0700
                                    Re: Missing Sub George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2023-07-01 18:21 -0700
                                      Re: Missing Sub Ed Lucas <aaca@ccecasud.lc> - 2023-07-02 12:10 +0000
                                        Re: Missing Sub Castro Alexandropoulos <drer@anaprpll.dp> - 2023-07-06 20:22 +0000
                                      Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-02 15:27 -0700
                                      Re: Missing Sub George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2023-07-06 01:33 -0700
                                        Re: Missing Sub Normand Calogerakis <seom@srlaosao.ea> - 2023-07-06 09:01 +0000
                                          Re: Missing Sub Gaylord Geracimos <gagr@llslelgm.mi> - 2023-07-06 09:28 +0000
                                        Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 09:47 -0700
                                          Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 13:40 -0700
                                            Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 17:26 -0700
                                            Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 17:33 -0700
                                              Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-06 20:22 -0700
                                                Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-07 11:48 -0700
                                  Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 04:43 -0500
                                    Re: Missing Sub whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-24 09:16 -0500
                                    Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-15 23:50 -0500
                Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-24 10:19 -0700
                  Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 13:56 -0700
                    Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-24 15:20 -0700
      Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 12:32 -0700
        Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 12:50 -0700
        Re: Missing Sub Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-06-23 15:43 +1000
          Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 23:10 -0700
            Re: Missing Sub Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-06-23 16:15 +1000
              Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-22 23:43 -0700
      Re: Missing Sub JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-07-02 16:24 -0700
        Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-02 18:55 -0700
          Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-03 10:24 -0700
            Re: Missing Sub The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-03 14:40 -0700
    Re: Missing Sub Yak <Yak@inbox.com> - 2023-06-22 15:39 -0400
      Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 12:52 -0700
        Re: Missing Sub whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-22 15:46 -0500
          Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 17:32 -0700
            Re: Missing Sub whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-22 20:32 -0500
      Re: Missing Sub Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> - 2023-06-23 02:09 +0000
        Re: Missing Sub Yak <Yak@inbox.com> - 2023-06-23 08:34 -0400
          Re: Missing Sub Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> - 2023-06-23 13:02 +0000
            Re: Missing Sub Yak <Yak@inbox.com> - 2023-06-23 09:34 -0400
              Re: Missing Sub Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2023-06-23 10:39 -0700
              Re: Missing Sub Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 19:48 -0400
                Re: Missing Sub Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2023-06-23 17:30 -0700
                  Re: Missing Sub Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> - 2023-06-24 00:38 +0000
                    Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-23 17:52 -0700
                    Re: Missing Sub Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> - 2023-06-24 01:44 +0000
                      Re: Missing Sub Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> - 2023-06-24 01:59 +0000
                      Re: Missing Sub Robert Youngdale <another.jaques@idiot> - 2023-06-23 19:03 -0700
    Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 13:10 -0700
      Re: Missing Sub patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-22 13:16 -0700
        Re: Missing Sub "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 11:38 -0700
    Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 19:36 -0500
      Re: Missing Sub Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 20:29 -0500

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#613572

A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
batteries.

There was no backup controlling device on dat sub.

Their whole lives depended on the gamepad.


What did that astronut say when she dropped her wrench in space?
"Great!"


dat was no movie, dat was real!


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >
> > On 6/23/2023 1:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > season 1 episode 2 on netflix
> > >
> > > Passenger 1: (Gasping) No! The controller! I dropped it!
> > [...]
> >
> > Always, have a backup system. I accidentally dropped and broke just one
> > of many controllers... Does not sound so bad now... They went through
> > hell...
> 
> There was no backup controlling device on dat sub.
> 
> If you break your wireless gamepad...your mommy has to buy you a new
> one.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#613575

On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> batteries.
[...]

Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were 
lost on that sub. Damn.

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#613578

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> 
> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> > you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> > batteries.
> [...]
> 
> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> lost on that sub. Damn.

Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png








-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#613608

On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>
>> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>>> batteries.
>> [...]
>>
>> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>> lost on that sub. Damn.
> 
> Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> 
> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Hahahahh :-)

As I said, the guy was a "whodat".

    "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees? 
Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right 
professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be 
saying is what matters!"

                                    - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush



-- 
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com

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#613612

On 6/23/2023 11:04 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>>>> batteries.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>>> lost on that sub. Damn.
>>
>> Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>>
>> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Hahahahh :-)
> 
> As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> 
>     "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees? 
> Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right 
> professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be 
> saying is what matters!"
> 
>                                     - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush

Nothing could be better. Thanks for coming "out."

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#613613

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote: 
> >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV 
> >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of 
> >>> batteries. 
> >> [...] 
> >> 
> >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were 
> >> lost on that sub. Damn. 
> > 
> > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO: 
> > 
> > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> Hahahahh :-) 
> 
> As I said, the guy was a "whodat". 
> 
> "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees? 
> Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right 
> professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be 
> saying is what matters!" 
> 
> - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. 
> www.avast.com
.
//George E Hammond MS Physics//
June 24, 2023
.
Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
.
Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi

That compression  ratio is 4689/15=313
.
The volume of the Titan chamber was about
(pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³ 
.
Which means that once it imploded the air volume
was near instantly reduced to: –
785/313=2.5 ft.³ 
.
The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
initially: –
(4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
.
The air bubble rising from the Titan
was only the size of a party balloon.
.
GEO

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#614240

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote: 
> > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV 
> > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of 
> > >>> batteries. 
> > >> [...] 
> > >> 
> > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were 
> > >> lost on that sub. Damn. 
> > > 
> > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO: 
> > > 
> > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > Hahahahh :-) 
> > 
> > As I said, the guy was a "whodat". 
> > 
> > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees? 
> > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right 
> > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be 
> > saying is what matters!" 
> > 
> > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. 
> > www.avast.com
> . 
> //George E Hammond MS Physics// 
> June 24, 2023 
> . 
> Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan 
> was manufactured by a company only 20 miles 
> from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet. 
> . 
> Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident. 
> Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi. 
> Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and 
> since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at 
> the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi 
> 
> That compression ratio is 4689/15=313 
> . 
> The volume of the Titan chamber was about 
> (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³ 
> . 
> Which means that once it imploded the air volume 
> was near instantly reduced to: – 
> 785/313=2.5 ft.³ 
> . 
> The air bubble that rose from the Titan was 
> initially: – 
> (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches 
> . 
> The air bubble rising from the Titan 
> was only the size of a party balloon. 
> . 
> GEO
.
*/George Hammond MS Physics/*
July 1, 2023
.
Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
show 2 major points: –
.
1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
.
2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
.
Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
RELEASED prior to the implosion !
This indicates that the Titan had reversed
direction and was on the way up again –
presumably from some major emergency !
.
Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
have occurred either before or after the
implosion – no way to tell at this point?
.
The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
several minutes of pre-implosion drama
(crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
final implosion !  ... Gad !!
.
GEO __ MS Physics

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#614260

George Hammond wrote:

> */George Hammond MS Physics/*
> July 1, 2023 .
> Videos of the recovered Titan fragments show 2 major points: –

nonsense. I see no "Hammond" there. You changed your name and moved to 
america. You are a "zelensky".

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#614579

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

> Hooray, Ukraine gets NATO status, plus 100 A-10s to clear out the
> Russian trenches.
> 
> Plus, 50 F-35 jets with trained pilots flying over the borderline to
> protect Zhaporizhia Hooray

idiot

*_MIG_21,_year_1980,_Mach_2.2_*

*_F_35,_year_2023-2030,_Mach_1.6_*

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#614297

George Hammond wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> > > >>> batteries.
> > > >> [...]
> > > >>
> > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> > > >
> > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hahahahh :-)
> > >
> > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> > >
> > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> > > saying is what matters!"
> > >
> > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > > www.avast.com
> > .
> > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
> > June 24, 2023
> > .
> > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
> > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
> > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
> > .
> > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
> > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
> > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
> > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
> > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
> >
> > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
> > .
> > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
> > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
> > .
> > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
> > was near instantly reduced to: –
> > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
> > .
> > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
> > initially: –
> > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
> > .
> > The air bubble rising from the Titan
> > was only the size of a party balloon.
> > .
> > GEO
> .
> */George Hammond MS Physics/*
> July 1, 2023
> .
> Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
> show 2 major points: –
> .
> 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
> .
> 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
> .
> Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
> RELEASED prior to the implosion !
> This indicates that the Titan had reversed
> direction and was on the way up again –
> presumably from some major emergency !
> .
> Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
> have occurred either before or after the
> implosion – no way to tell at this point?
> .
> The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
> bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
> that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
> indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
> maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
> several minutes of pre-implosion drama
> (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
> final implosion !  ... Gad !!
> .
> GEO __ MS Physics


Official 1: (Stunned) Look at these videos! The viewing window is
missing!

Official 2: (Examining the footage) You're right! The window is gone.
But the undercarriage is undamaged.

Official 3: (Thoughtfully) That means the undercarriage was released
before the implosion.

Official 4: (Nervously) Why would they release it? What could have been
the emergency?

Official 1: (Hypothesizing) Perhaps they encountered a problem and were
trying to resurface quickly.

Official 2: (Anxious) That might explain the banging noises we heard
earlier. They were trying to get help!

Official 3: (Speculating) But if the undercarriage was released
intentionally, they must have been in serious trouble.

Official 4: (Uneasy) What kind of trouble could cause them to make such
a drastic move?

Official 1: (Looking worried) It's hard to say. Maybe they were running
out of oxygen or had a critical system failure.

Official 2: (Gulping) Whatever happened, it must have been terrifying
for them.

Official 3: (Trying to remain calm) It's possible they were struggling
to fix the issue before it was too late.

Official 4: (Panicking) But it looks like they didn't have enough time.
The implosion must have been devastating!

Official 1: (In shock) Imagine the final moments—crackling, popping
noises... The fear they must have felt.

Official 2: (Distressed) It's heartbreaking to think about. They were so
close to making it back.

Official 3: (Swallowing hard) We have to hope that they didn't suffer
for long.

Official 4: (Grieving) Rest in peace, my friends. We can't change what
happened, but we must stay strong.

The new details from the recovered Titan fragments have left the
Officials with more questions than answers. They try to piece together
the events that 
led to the sub's implosion, pondering the emergency that forced the
undercarriage release. The dialogue reflects their shock and sorrow as
they contemplate 
the dramatic turn of events that may have unfolded inside the sub before
its final moments.


I heard somebody was offered a ticket at half the price! Bring your
kids!!



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#614555

On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote: 
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote: 
> > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: 
> > > >> 
> > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV 
> > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of 
> > > >>> batteries. 
> > > >> [...] 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were 
> > > >> lost on that sub. Damn. 
> > > > 
> > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO: 
> > > > 
> > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > Hahahahh :-) 
> > > 
> > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat". 
> > > 
> > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees? 
> > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right 
> > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be 
> > > saying is what matters!" 
> > > 
> > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. 
> > > www.avast.com 
> > . 
> > //George E Hammond MS Physics// 
> > June 24, 2023 
> > . 
> > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan 
> > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles 
> > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet. 
> > . 
> > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident. 
> > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi. 
> > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and 
> > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at 
> > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi 
> > 
> > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313 
> > . 
> > The volume of the Titan chamber was about 
> > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³ 
> > . 
> > Which means that once it imploded the air volume 
> > was near instantly reduced to: – 
> > 785/313=2.5 ft.³ 
> > . 
> > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was 
> > initially: – 
> > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches 
> > . 
> > The air bubble rising from the Titan 
> > was only the size of a party balloon. 
> > . 
> > GEO
> . 
> */George Hammond MS Physics/* 
> July 1, 2023 
> . 
> Videos of the recovered Titan fragments 
> show 2 major points: – 
> . 
> 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing 
> . 
> 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged 
> . 
> Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was 
> RELEASED prior to the implosion ! 
> This indicates that the Titan had reversed 
> direction and was on the way up again – 
> presumably from some major emergency ! 
> . 
> Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may 
> have occurred either before or after the 
> implosion – no way to tell at this point? 
> . 
> The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not 
> bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates 
> that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which 
> indicates a "return to the surface" emergency 
> maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had 
> several minutes of pre-implosion drama 
> (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the 
> final implosion ! ... Gad !! 
> . 
> GEO __ MS Physics
.
**/George Hammond MS Physics/**
July 6, 2023
.
I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
.
A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
should withstand 5000 psi  and would only cost about
$15,000 for the Titanium.
.
Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
cylinder was only about 6 inches thick.  And Titanium unlike
carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
.
Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium 
cylinder might be a problem ?  But I'll bet someone
would try it !
.
Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
TITANIC in person !
.
GEO ___MS Physics

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#614556

George Hammond wrote:

> **/G̶e̶o̶r̶g̶e̶ H̶a̶m̶m̶o̶n̶d̶ MS Physics/**

completely nonsense. I see no "Hammond" anywhere. You are a zelenske. You 
changed your name and moved to america.

a known problem with you, zelenskies.

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#614558

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

> Hooray, Ukraine gets NATO status, plus 100 A-10s to clear out the
> Russian trenches.
> 
> Plus, 50 F-35 jets with trained pilots flying over the borderline to
> protect Zhaporizhia Hooray

yet another fucking zelenske, changing his name and moved to america.

thinking, like zelenske, to steal a country. But america stole him!! Take
care, you fucking zelenskies. America is full of zelenskies. They were
thinking to steal america. You are too many to steal that shithole.

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#614561

George Hammond wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> > > > >>> batteries.
> > > > >> [...]
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Hahahahh :-)
> > > >
> > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> > > >
> > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> > > > saying is what matters!"
> > > >
> > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > > > www.avast.com
> > > .
> > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
> > > June 24, 2023
> > > .
> > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
> > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
> > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
> > > .
> > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
> > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
> > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
> > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
> > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
> > >
> > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
> > > .
> > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
> > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
> > > .
> > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
> > > was near instantly reduced to: –
> > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
> > > .
> > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
> > > initially: –
> > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
> > > .
> > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
> > > was only the size of a party balloon.
> > > .
> > > GEO
> > .
> > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
> > July 1, 2023
> > .
> > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
> > show 2 major points: –
> > .
> > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
> > .
> > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
> > .
> > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
> > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
> > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
> > direction and was on the way up again –
> > presumably from some major emergency !
> > .
> > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
> > have occurred either before or after the
> > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
> > .
> > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
> > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
> > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
> > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
> > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
> > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
> > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
> > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
> > .
> > GEO __ MS Physics
> .
> **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
> July 6, 2023
> .
> I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
> 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
> TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
> .
> A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
> 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
> should withstand 5000 psi  and would only cost about
> $15,000 for the Titanium.
> .
> Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
> cylinder was only about 6 inches thick.  And Titanium unlike
> carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
> .
> Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
> cylinder might be a problem ?  But I'll bet someone
> would try it !
> .
> Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
> Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
> human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
> TITANIC in person !
> .
> GEO ___MS Physics

The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.

if at first you don't succeed, try try again.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#614582

,,,and then...if you try to make a Right using the gamepad controller,
it went Forward instead, or in circles!







The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> George Hammond wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
> > > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
> > > > > >>> batteries.
> > > > > >> [...]
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
> > > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hahahahh :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> > > > >
> > > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
> > > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
> > > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
> > > > > saying is what matters!"
> > > > >
> > > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > > > > www.avast.com
> > > > .
> > > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
> > > > June 24, 2023
> > > > .
> > > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
> > > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
> > > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
> > > > .
> > > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
> > > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
> > > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
> > > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
> > > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
> > > >
> > > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
> > > > .
> > > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
> > > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
> > > > .
> > > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
> > > > was near instantly reduced to: –
> > > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
> > > > .
> > > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
> > > > initially: –
> > > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
> > > > .
> > > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
> > > > was only the size of a party balloon.
> > > > .
> > > > GEO
> > > .
> > > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
> > > July 1, 2023
> > > .
> > > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
> > > show 2 major points: –
> > > .
> > > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
> > > .
> > > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
> > > .
> > > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
> > > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
> > > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
> > > direction and was on the way up again –
> > > presumably from some major emergency !
> > > .
> > > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
> > > have occurred either before or after the
> > > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
> > > .
> > > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
> > > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
> > > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
> > > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
> > > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
> > > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
> > > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
> > > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
> > > .
> > > GEO __ MS Physics
> > .
> > **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
> > July 6, 2023
> > .
> > I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
> > 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
> > TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
> > .
> > A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
> > 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
> > should withstand 5000 psi  and would only cost about
> > $15,000 for the Titanium.
> > .
> > Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
> > cylinder was only about 6 inches thick.  And Titanium unlike
> > carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
> > .
> > Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
> > cylinder might be a problem ?  But I'll bet someone
> > would try it !
> > .
> > Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
> > Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
> > human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
> > TITANIC in person !
> > .
> > GEO ___MS Physics
> 
> The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.
> 
> if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#614594

and lets not forget.. this sub was built in America, not anywhere
else.


On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:40:28 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>,,,and then...if you try to make a Right using the gamepad controller,
>it went Forward instead, or in circles!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> George Hammond wrote:
>> >
>> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> > > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>> > > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>> > > > > >>> batteries.
>> > > > > >> [...]
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>> > > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > Hahahahh :-)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
>> > > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
>> > > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
>> > > > > saying is what matters!"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> > > > > www.avast.com
>> > > > .
>> > > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
>> > > > June 24, 2023
>> > > > .
>> > > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
>> > > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
>> > > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
>> > > > .
>> > > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
>> > > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
>> > > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
>> > > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
>> > > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
>> > > >
>> > > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
>> > > > .
>> > > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
>> > > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
>> > > > .
>> > > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
>> > > > was near instantly reduced to: –
>> > > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
>> > > > .
>> > > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
>> > > > initially: –
>> > > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
>> > > > .
>> > > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
>> > > > was only the size of a party balloon.
>> > > > .
>> > > > GEO
>> > > .
>> > > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
>> > > July 1, 2023
>> > > .
>> > > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
>> > > show 2 major points: –
>> > > .
>> > > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
>> > > .
>> > > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
>> > > .
>> > > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
>> > > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
>> > > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
>> > > direction and was on the way up again –
>> > > presumably from some major emergency !
>> > > .
>> > > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
>> > > have occurred either before or after the
>> > > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
>> > > .
>> > > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
>> > > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
>> > > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
>> > > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
>> > > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
>> > > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
>> > > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
>> > > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
>> > > .
>> > > GEO __ MS Physics
>> > .
>> > **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
>> > July 6, 2023
>> > .
>> > I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
>> > 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
>> > TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
>> > .
>> > A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
>> > 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
>> > should withstand 5000 psi  and would only cost about
>> > $15,000 for the Titanium.
>> > .
>> > Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
>> > cylinder was only about 6 inches thick.  And Titanium unlike
>> > carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
>> > .
>> > Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
>> > cylinder might be a problem ?  But I'll bet someone
>> > would try it !
>> > .
>> > Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
>> > Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
>> > human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
>> > TITANIC in person !
>> > .
>> > GEO ___MS Physics
>> 
>> The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.
>> 
>> if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
>> 
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge
>>  the unchallengeable.

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#614595

Reminds me of that line in the movie Apollo 13...

Gene Kranz : Let's look at this thing from a... um, from a standpoint
of status. What do we got on the spacecraft that's good? 





On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:40:28 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>,,,and then...if you try to make a Right using the gamepad controller,
>it went Forward instead, or in circles!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> George Hammond wrote:
>> >
>> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> > > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>> > > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>> > > > > >>> batteries.
>> > > > > >> [...]
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>> > > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > Hahahahh :-)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
>> > > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
>> > > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
>> > > > > saying is what matters!"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> > > > > www.avast.com
>> > > > .
>> > > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
>> > > > June 24, 2023
>> > > > .
>> > > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
>> > > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
>> > > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
>> > > > .
>> > > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
>> > > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
>> > > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
>> > > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
>> > > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
>> > > >
>> > > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
>> > > > .
>> > > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
>> > > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
>> > > > .
>> > > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
>> > > > was near instantly reduced to: –
>> > > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
>> > > > .
>> > > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
>> > > > initially: –
>> > > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
>> > > > .
>> > > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
>> > > > was only the size of a party balloon.
>> > > > .
>> > > > GEO
>> > > .
>> > > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
>> > > July 1, 2023
>> > > .
>> > > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
>> > > show 2 major points: –
>> > > .
>> > > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
>> > > .
>> > > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
>> > > .
>> > > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
>> > > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
>> > > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
>> > > direction and was on the way up again –
>> > > presumably from some major emergency !
>> > > .
>> > > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
>> > > have occurred either before or after the
>> > > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
>> > > .
>> > > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
>> > > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
>> > > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
>> > > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
>> > > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
>> > > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
>> > > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
>> > > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
>> > > .
>> > > GEO __ MS Physics
>> > .
>> > **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
>> > July 6, 2023
>> > .
>> > I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
>> > 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
>> > TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
>> > .
>> > A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
>> > 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
>> > should withstand 5000 psi  and would only cost about
>> > $15,000 for the Titanium.
>> > .
>> > Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
>> > cylinder was only about 6 inches thick.  And Titanium unlike
>> > carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
>> > .
>> > Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
>> > cylinder might be a problem ?  But I'll bet someone
>> > would try it !
>> > .
>> > Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
>> > Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
>> > human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
>> > TITANIC in person !
>> > .
>> > GEO ___MS Physics
>> 
>> The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.
>> 
>> if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
>> 
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge
>>  the unchallengeable.

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#614601

Gene Kranz : I don't care about what anything was DESIGNED to do, I
care about what it CAN do. 




Sy Liebergot : Flight... I recommend we shut down reactant valves to
the fuel cells.

Gene Kranz : What the hell good is that gonna do?

Sy Liebergot : If that's where the leak is, we can isolate it. We can
save what's left in the tanks and we can run on the good cell.

Gene Kranz : You close 'em, you can't open 'em again! You can't land
on the moon with one healthy fuel cell!

Sy Liebergot : Gene, the Odyssey is *dying*. From my chair here, this
is the last option.




Gene Kranz : EECOM, is this an instrumentation problem, or are we
looking at real power loss here?

Sy Liebergot : It's, it's reading a quadruple failure - that can't
happen! It's, it's got to be instrumentation.




Gene Kranz : God damn, see, these guys are talking about bangs and
shimmies up there. It doesn't sound like instrumentation to me. 




On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 17:33:01 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Reminds me of that line in the movie Apollo 13...
>
>Gene Kranz : Let's look at this thing from a... um, from a standpoint
>of status. What do we got on the spacecraft that's good? 
>
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:40:28 -0700, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>,,,and then...if you try to make a Right using the gamepad controller,
>>it went Forward instead, or in circles!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>> 
>>> George Hammond wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>>> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>>> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> > > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> > > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>> > > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>>> > > > > >>> batteries.
>>> > > > > >> [...]
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>>> > > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > Hahahahh :-)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
>>> > > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
>>> > > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
>>> > > > > saying is what matters!"
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --
>>> > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>> > > > > www.avast.com
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
>>> > > > June 24, 2023
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
>>> > > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
>>> > > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
>>> > > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
>>> > > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
>>> > > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
>>> > > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
>>> > > >
>>> > > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
>>> > > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
>>> > > > was near instantly reduced to: –
>>> > > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
>>> > > > initially: –
>>> > > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
>>> > > > was only the size of a party balloon.
>>> > > > .
>>> > > > GEO
>>> > > .
>>> > > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
>>> > > July 1, 2023
>>> > > .
>>> > > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
>>> > > show 2 major points: –
>>> > > .
>>> > > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
>>> > > .
>>> > > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
>>> > > .
>>> > > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
>>> > > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
>>> > > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
>>> > > direction and was on the way up again –
>>> > > presumably from some major emergency !
>>> > > .
>>> > > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
>>> > > have occurred either before or after the
>>> > > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
>>> > > .
>>> > > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
>>> > > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
>>> > > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
>>> > > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
>>> > > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
>>> > > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
>>> > > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
>>> > > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
>>> > > .
>>> > > GEO __ MS Physics
>>> > .
>>> > **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
>>> > July 6, 2023
>>> > .
>>> > I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
>>> > 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
>>> > TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
>>> > .
>>> > A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
>>> > 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
>>> > should withstand 5000 psi  and would only cost about
>>> > $15,000 for the Titanium.
>>> > .
>>> > Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
>>> > cylinder was only about 6 inches thick.  And Titanium unlike
>>> > carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
>>> > .
>>> > Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
>>> > cylinder might be a problem ?  But I'll bet someone
>>> > would try it !
>>> > .
>>> > Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
>>> > Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
>>> > human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
>>> > TITANIC in person !
>>> > .
>>> > GEO ___MS Physics
>>> 
>>> The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.
>>> 
>>> if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> and challenge
>>>  the unchallengeable.

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#614668

Hell, it coulda been  Orcas dat did it!

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 20:22:01 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Gene Kranz : I don't care about what anything was DESIGNED to do, I
>care about what it CAN do. 
>
>
>
>
>Sy Liebergot : Flight... I recommend we shut down reactant valves to
>the fuel cells.
>
>Gene Kranz : What the hell good is that gonna do?
>
>Sy Liebergot : If that's where the leak is, we can isolate it. We can
>save what's left in the tanks and we can run on the good cell.
>
>Gene Kranz : You close 'em, you can't open 'em again! You can't land
>on the moon with one healthy fuel cell!
>
>Sy Liebergot : Gene, the Odyssey is *dying*. From my chair here, this
>is the last option.
>
>
>
>
>Gene Kranz : EECOM, is this an instrumentation problem, or are we
>looking at real power loss here?
>
>Sy Liebergot : It's, it's reading a quadruple failure - that can't
>happen! It's, it's got to be instrumentation.
>
>
>
>
>Gene Kranz : God damn, see, these guys are talking about bangs and
>shimmies up there. It doesn't sound like instrumentation to me. 
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 17:33:01 -0700, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>Reminds me of that line in the movie Apollo 13...
>>
>>Gene Kranz : Let's look at this thing from a... um, from a standpoint
>>of status. What do we got on the spacecraft that's good? 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:40:28 -0700, The Starmaker
>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>,,,and then...if you try to make a Right using the gamepad controller,
>>>it went Forward instead, or in circles!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> George Hammond wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 9:21:33 PM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>>>> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 2:19:35 AM UTC-4, George Hammond wrote:
>>>> > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:04:24 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> > > > > On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> > > > > >>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>>> > > > > >>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>>>> > > > > >>> batteries.
>>>> > > > > >> [...]
>>>> > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > >> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>>>> > > > > >> lost on that sub. Damn.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > Hahahahh :-)
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees?
>>>> > > > > Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right
>>>> > > > > professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be
>>>> > > > > saying is what matters!"
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > --
>>>> > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>>> > > > > www.avast.com
>>>> > > > .
>>>> > > > //George E Hammond MS Physics//
>>>> > > > June 24, 2023
>>>> > > > .
>>>> > > > Incidentally the ROV that located the Titan
>>>> > > > was manufactured by a company only 20 miles
>>>> > > > from me on Cape Cod. In the town of Wellfleet.
>>>> > > > .
>>>> > > > Here's the Deadly Math concerning the accident.
>>>> > > > Ambient air pressure at the surface is 15 psi.
>>>> > > > Seawater pressure increases 0.444 psi/ft and
>>>> > > > since 2 miles is 10,560 feet the pressure at
>>>> > > > the Titanic is (.444)(10560)=4689 psi
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > That compression ratio is 4689/15=313
>>>> > > > .
>>>> > > > The volume of the Titan chamber was about
>>>> > > > (pi)(5^2) (10)= 785 ft.³
>>>> > > > .
>>>> > > > Which means that once it imploded the air volume
>>>> > > > was near instantly reduced to: –
>>>> > > > 785/313=2.5 ft.³
>>>> > > > .
>>>> > > > The air bubble that rose from the Titan was
>>>> > > > initially: –
>>>> > > > (4/3)(pi)(r^3)=2.5 hence r=0.842 ft=10 inches
>>>> > > > .
>>>> > > > The air bubble rising from the Titan
>>>> > > > was only the size of a party balloon.
>>>> > > > .
>>>> > > > GEO
>>>> > > .
>>>> > > */George Hammond MS Physics/*
>>>> > > July 1, 2023
>>>> > > .
>>>> > > Videos of the recovered Titan fragments
>>>> > > show 2 major points: –
>>>> > > .
>>>> > > 1 – The Plexiglas viewing window is missing
>>>> > > .
>>>> > > 2 – the undercarriage is completely undamaged
>>>> > > .
>>>> > > Point 2 indicates that the undercarriage was
>>>> > > RELEASED prior to the implosion !
>>>> > > This indicates that the Titan had reversed
>>>> > > direction and was on the way up again –
>>>> > > presumably from some major emergency !
>>>> > > .
>>>> > > Point 1 – the Plexiglas window missing may
>>>> > > have occurred either before or after the
>>>> > > implosion – no way to tell at this point?
>>>> > > .
>>>> > > The fact that the UNDERCARRIAGE was not
>>>> > > bent, distorted or damaged in any way indicates
>>>> > > that it was RELEASED ON PURPOSE which
>>>> > > indicates a "return to the surface" emergency
>>>> > > maneuver – if so, the occupants may have had
>>>> > > several minutes of pre-implosion drama
>>>> > > (crackling, popping noises etc.) before the
>>>> > > final implosion ! ... Gad !!
>>>> > > .
>>>> > > GEO __ MS Physics
>>>> > .
>>>> > **/George Hammond MS Physics/**
>>>> > July 6, 2023
>>>> > .
>>>> > I have a question – why didn't Oceangate simply cast the
>>>> > 10 foot diameter cylinder of the Titan out of SOLID
>>>> > TITANIUM – say 6 inches thick?
>>>> > .
>>>> > A 10 foot diameter 10 foot long TITANIUM cylinder with a
>>>> > 6" – wall thickness would still be near neutrally buoyant,
>>>> > should withstand 5000 psi  and would only cost about
>>>> > $15,000 for the Titanium.
>>>> > .
>>>> > Titanium is stronger than carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber
>>>> > cylinder was only about 6 inches thick.  And Titanium unlike
>>>> > carbon fiber is not prone to cracking !
>>>> > .
>>>> > Of course getting some foundry to cast the Titanium
>>>> > cylinder might be a problem ?  But I'll bet someone
>>>> > would try it !
>>>> > .
>>>> > Anyway, Stockton Rush and at least 6 of his still living
>>>> > Associates, do have the distinction of being the only
>>>> > human beings who have ever seen the wreck of the
>>>> > TITANIC in person !
>>>> > .
>>>> > GEO ___MS Physics
>>>> 
>>>> The fact is..it is not the first time this Sub...imploded.
>>>> 
>>>> if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>>> and challenge
>>>>  the unchallengeable.

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#613617

On 6/23/2023 11:04 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/23/2023 6:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/23/2023 2:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> A backup controlling device is the buttons on the back of your TV
>>>> you can still change channels with if your remote breaks or runs out of
>>>> batteries.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Okay, that made me laugh. But, I have respect for the lives that were
>>> lost on that sub. Damn.
>>
>> Of course, you respect the life of the CEO Stockton Rush CEO:
>>
>> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A15/production/_130190367_email_exchange_v3_640-nc-2x-nc.png
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Hahahahh :-)
> 
> As I said, the guy was a "whodat".
> 
>     "Nothing matters except the bullshit that I propound. Degrees? 
> Standards? Actual knowledge? The right profession? The right 
> professionals? No, none of that! Only the bullshit that I happen to be 
> saying is what matters!"
> 
>                                     - Stockton "The Whodat" Rush
> 
> 
> 



Crap. Navy not only had detected the ultra loud sound of the crash, 
which by the way involves an implosion immediately followed by explosion 
- kind of like a supernova - heheh :) - they also had shared their 
interpretation with those searching for the sub as well as with their 
friends, even with the movie director of Titanic! Then for days all 
these people who knew what happened, I bet, were sitting on their asses 
laughing at what the news covered and how they were trying to make the 
most news out of it. "Crew has only 90 hours of oxygen!" :-) "Now they 
only have 10 hours left!" ...

After crash sound had reached the closest listening point, and the news 
of a sub missing at that same location reached the Navy, everything that 
followed in the news after that was purely for "Whodats."

I don't want to start my Saturday, so early in the morning, with 
anything that involves the concept of "Whodat" and "Whodats". Be it just 
to kill time while coffee is brewing. I don't want to do that even if 
you pay me! :-(

A "Whodat" should die and reduce the dead weight on peoples' shoulders. 
It's the only positive aspect that there is about a "Whodat" that the 
"Whodat" can do. Stockton "the Whodat" is dead, that was good. Worth 
spending a few minutes on. The other four, minus the 19 year old, each 
"Whodats" of their own, trusting another "Whodat", I'm happy about them 
also. Dead Weights.

I'm sure the Baba Paki referred to Stockton as "Sahib!" Good fucking 
riddance indeed. But the 19 year old couldn't know better. And it is the 
law of nature that no matter how innocent, if you're descending from a 
fool, you're a goner as well as the fool.












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