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ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY

Started byRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
First post2023-06-16 15:32 -0700
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  ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 15:32 -0700
    Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 15:40 -0700
    Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-06-16 17:18 -0700
      Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 18:21 -0700
        Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-17 08:30 -0700
          Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Felipe Kuipers <piif@kpfeeeui.ke> - 2023-06-17 17:30 +0000
    Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-16 20:44 -0700
    Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-17 11:16 -0700
    Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-17 11:19 -0700
    Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-17 15:08 -0700
    Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-18 09:37 +0200
      Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Dee Kloeten <ddkd@leeenklo.ne> - 2023-06-18 17:26 +0000
    Re: ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-18 08:28 -0700
      Cranks keep wasting their lives away "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 08:33 -0700
        Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-18 18:00 +0200
          Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 09:02 -0700
            Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-18 09:14 -0700
          Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 09:39 -0700
          Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 10:32 -0700
            Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-18 21:07 +0200
              Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 20:50 -0700
                Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-19 06:45 -0700
                  Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 08:01 -0700
                    Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-19 10:50 -0700
                  Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-19 22:16 +0200
                    Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-19 13:50 -0700
                      Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-20 11:25 +0200
                        Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 08:49 -0700
                        Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-20 09:21 -0700
        Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-18 11:06 -0500
        Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 09:26 -0700
        Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 10:37 -0700
          Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:16 -0700
            Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-06-18 21:07 +0200
          Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:24 -0700
          Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-18 13:37 -0700
            Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 14:55 -0700
              Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-19 15:45 -0700

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#613059 — ANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-16 15:32 -0700
SubjectANTIRELATIVISTIC LIBRARY
Message-ID<6b953e10-7dd9-42fc-a986-f9c8709d6030n@googlegroups.com>
http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html


Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes

Brief historical information

List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003)

List of some antirelativistic works (1905-2003)

Project "To remember all real first pioneers"

Brief standard-minimum for criticism of the relativity theory

Author's self-disproof

Goals, structure of web-site, contacts, acknowledgements 



************************************

The SHORT STANDARD-MINIMUM of CRITICISM of the RELATIVITY THEORY
http://www.antidogma.ru/library/standard_en.html

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#613061

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-16 15:40 -0700
Message-ID<ceda59a4-88e2-4941-8fef-1b347e06e064n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613059
History of antirelativistic struggle in the West

http://www.antidogma.ru/library/history_en.html

Apologists of the relativity theory constantly operate by a principle "it is not the truth but so sounds better". Many data used in given section, will seem to the reader unexpected (the same as absolutely unexpected they have appeared and for the composer). To you to choose between the truth and habitual (but invented) history. Interpretations of the special relativity theory (SRT) which first anybody seriously did not perceive, have started to be exposed to the analysis since 1908. Till 1914 all experiments have rejected SRT (including experiments in search of an aether wind which yielded nonzero result, but have not been obliged to give speed of 30 km/sec). Many theoretical works have not left from the given theory of a stone on a stone from the physical and philosophical points of view and have for a long time pushed it in a shade. 

Right after messages on detection of a deviation of a light ray in the field of the Sun, ostensibly confirming GRT, interpretation of the data of the experiment has been denied (in England: A.Fowler, Sir Joseph Larmor, Sir Oliver J.Lodge, H.F.Newall, Ludwik Silberstein; in the USA: T.J.J. See; in Germany: Ernst Gehrcke, Philipp Lenard; we will notice also in brackets that for the first time the deviation of a light ray at passage near to the Sun, in accuracy coinciding with "results" of GRT, has been predicted in 1801 in J.Zoldner's article). 

Despite it, since November 1919 campaign in support of the general relativity theory (GRT) begins wide which under statements of relativists is development of SRT (that actually far not so, but nevertheless propagation of SRT interpretations also amplifies). Permanent publications in newspapers begin, public performances before nonspecialists (schoolboys, housewives etc.), in advertising involve even Charlie Chaplin. In 1920 Einstein on the Congress in Leiden (Netherlands) recognizes necessity of an aether in GRT, that does a curtsy "both our and your" to calm a part of opponents. 

In 1921 A. Einstein makes the first tour across the USA where he was engaged in propagation including relativity theories.

Usually it is favorable for relativists to represent the state so as if against A.Einstein's theories one fascist acted. Actually during this period about fascism in Germany practically anybody also did not hear (even failed "beer putsch" is 1923!). Moreover, in 1922 on the 100-year-old anniversary the Society "Gesellschaft Duetscher Naturforscher und Ärztë" has made decision to exclude any criticism of SRT in the official academic environment. As a result since 1922 the interdiction is entered into Germany in the academic press and in formation on criticism of the relativity theory, which since then and without interruption (!) operates until now. 

................................

Read more at the link provided above.


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#613064

Frompatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
Date2023-06-16 17:18 -0700
Message-ID<1b34697a-bf17-4f6d-b80a-d5f96a82e2c8n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613059
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:32:50 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html 
> 
> 
> Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes 
> 
> Brief historical information 
> 
> List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003) 
> 
> List of some antirelativistic works (1905-2003) 
> 
> Project "To remember all real first pioneers" 
> 
> Brief standard-minimum for criticism of the relativity theory 
> 
> Author's self-disproof 
> 
> Goals, structure of web-site, contacts, acknowledgements 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************ 
> 
> The SHORT STANDARD-MINIMUM of CRITICISM of the RELATIVITY THEORY 
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/standard_en.html
What a wonderful resource, Richard.  Is this your work?

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#613072

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-16 18:21 -0700
Message-ID<95153732-8592-45dc-90c9-66af168230d5n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613064
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 9:18:24 PM UTC-3, patdolan wrote:
> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:32:50 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html 
> > 
> > 
> > Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes 
> > 
> > Brief historical information 
> > 
> > List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003) 
> > 
> > List of some antirelativistic works (1905-2003) 
> > 
> > Project "To remember all real first pioneers" 
> > 
> > Brief standard-minimum for criticism of the relativity theory 
> > 
> > Author's self-disproof 
> > 
> > Goals, structure of web-site, contacts, acknowledgements 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ************************************ 
> > 
> > The SHORT STANDARD-MINIMUM of CRITICISM of the RELATIVITY THEORY 
> > http://www.antidogma.ru/library/standard_en.html
> What a wonderful resource, Richard. Is this your work?

The site was developed by a Russian in 2003, on the basis of materials of the G.O.Mueller Research Project and many other
researches in Germany, Italy, Russia, etc.

The part about the forceful introduction of relativity in Russia by communist jews, since 1923 and until 1957, is priceless.

Also, how come relativity was introduced as if it was "a religion within physics", and the details of punishment for those
opposing it or JUST making the slightest comment against it, in academic circles.

All of this was managed like bolsheviks managed to gain power in Europe since mid XIX century, which ended with WWI,
the 1917 Revolution and all the way to WWII: extinction of white people.

Look at Europe today: they won in every aspect.

But this article is even more revealing about the current seeds of gender ideology: same shit, other times.

Space Force Chief Says State "Anti-LGBT" Laws Threaten US Military Readiness
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/space-force-chief-says-state-anti-lgbt-laws-threaten-us-military-readiness

or this, also from today:

New Jersey Schools Report More Than 4,200 Percent Increase In Nonbinary Students In Four Years
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-jersey-schools-report-more-4200-percent-increase-nonbinary-students-four-years

See? No difference. Start with the weak and the gullible people, if you want to disseminate doctrine. The rest will be forced
to follow or to be outcasted, in rather short time. Communism, relativity, gender confusion, all with the same roots.

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#613113

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-17 08:30 -0700
Message-ID<bcee632e-f3f7-4dd2-9369-fc2bec4ba002n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613072
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 6:21:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 9:18:24 PM UTC-3, patdolan wrote: 
> > On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:32:50 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > > http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes 
> > > 
> > > Brief historical information 
> > > 
> > > List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003) 
> > > 
> > > List of some antirelativistic works (1905-2003) 
> > > 
> > > Project "To remember all real first pioneers" 
> > > 
> > > Brief standard-minimum for criticism of the relativity theory 
> > > 
> > > Author's self-disproof 
> > > 
> > > Goals, structure of web-site, contacts, acknowledgements 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ************************************ 
> > > 
> > > The SHORT STANDARD-MINIMUM of CRITICISM of the RELATIVITY THEORY 
> > > http://www.antidogma.ru/library/standard_en.html 
> > What a wonderful resource, Richard. Is this your work?
> The site was developed by a Russian in 2003, on the basis of materials of the G.O.Mueller Research Project and many other 
> researches in Germany, Italy, Russia, etc. 
> 
> The part about the forceful introduction of relativity in Russia by communist jews, since 1923 and until 1957, is priceless. 
> 
> Also, how come relativity was introduced as if it was "a religion within physics", and the details of punishment for those 
> opposing it or JUST making the slightest comment against it, in academic circles. 
> 
> All of this was managed like bolsheviks managed to gain power in Europe since mid XIX century, which ended with WWI, 
> the 1917 Revolution and all the way to WWII: extinction of white people. 
> 
> Look at Europe today: they won in every aspect. 
> 
> But this article is even more revealing about the current seeds of gender ideology: same shit, other times. 
> 
> Space Force Chief Says State "Anti-LGBT" Laws Threaten US Military Readiness 
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/space-force-chief-says-state-anti-lgbt-laws-threaten-us-military-readiness 
> 
> or this, also from today: 
> 
> New Jersey Schools Report More Than 4,200 Percent Increase In Nonbinary Students In Four Years 
> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-jersey-schools-report-more-4200-percent-increase-nonbinary-students-four-years 
> 
> See? No difference. Start with the weak and the gullible people, if you want to disseminate doctrine. The rest will be forced 
> to follow or to be outcasted, in rather short time. Communism, relativity, gender confusion, all with the same roots.
Thanks for reminding me of this handy source.

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#613127

FromFelipe Kuipers <piif@kpfeeeui.ke>
Date2023-06-17 17:30 +0000
Message-ID<u6kqjt$2um7u$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#613113
Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

>> See? No difference. Start with the weak and the gullible people, if you
>> want to disseminate doctrine. The rest will be forced to follow or to
>> be outcasted, in rather short time. Communism, relativity, gender
>> confusion, all with the same roots.
> Thanks for reminding me of this handy source.

we agree.

*_The_African_peace_mission_finished_in_fiasco_*. Africans have been
enslaved and *_humiliated_for_hundreds_of_years_* and nothing changed, It
looks like that their leaders
*_needs_time_to_understand_that_Russia_has_job_to_do_*. The SMO is not all
about Ukrainian nazi *_but_also_about_decolonisation_too_*,

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#613077

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-16 20:44 -0700
Message-ID<648D2C1B.7A86@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#613059
Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html
> 
> Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes
> 
> Brief historical information
> 
> List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003)
> 
> List of some antirelativistic works (1905-2003)
> 
> Project "To remember all real first pioneers"
> 
> Brief standard-minimum for criticism of the relativity theory
> 
> Author's self-disproof
> 
> Goals, structure of web-site, contacts, acknowledgements
> 
> ************************************
> 
> The SHORT STANDARD-MINIMUM of CRITICISM of the RELATIVITY THEORY
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/standard_en.html

Even Einstein didn't like the word..."Relativity".




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#613138

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-17 11:16 -0700
Message-ID<c850b57e-fd14-4c5f-bd9e-8994243dd98dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613059
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:32:50 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html 
> 
> 
> Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes 
> 
> Brief historical information 
> 
> List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003) 
> 
> List of some antirelativistic works (1905-2003) 
> 
> Project "To remember all real first pioneers" 
> 
> Brief standard-minimum for criticism of the relativity theory 
> 
> Author's self-disproof 
> 
> Goals, structure of web-site, contacts, acknowledgements 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************ 
> 
> The SHORT STANDARD-MINIMUM of CRITICISM of the RELATIVITY THEORY 
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/standard_en.html
Here's a good book I found there: Casazza, Giuseppe: Einstein e la commedia della relatività. 1923.

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#613139

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-17 11:19 -0700
Message-ID<4e38d90e-f441-4774-b49e-43a091e87aa5n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613059
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:32:50 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html 
> 
> 
> Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes 
> 
> Brief historical information 
> 
> List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003) 
> 
> List of some antirelativistic works (1905-2003) 
> 
> Project "To remember all real first pioneers" 
> 
> Brief standard-minimum for criticism of the relativity theory 
> 
> Author's self-disproof 
> 
> Goals, structure of web-site, contacts, acknowledgements 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************ 
> 
> The SHORT STANDARD-MINIMUM of CRITICISM of the RELATIVITY THEORY 
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/standard_en.html
Also: Cohen, Alchanan: The law of relativity exploited for political and religious ends is not founded on truth. 1948.

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#613147

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-17 15:08 -0700
Message-ID<f70ba039-a0fd-4355-985d-eab3f19a1073n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613059
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:32:50 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html 
> 
> 
> Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes 
> 
> Brief historical information 
> 
> List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003) 
> 
> List of some antirelativistic works (1905-2003) 
> 
> Project "To remember all real first pioneers" 
> 
> Brief standard-minimum for criticism of the relativity theory 
> 
> Author's self-disproof 
> 
> Goals, structure of web-site, contacts, acknowledgements 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************ 
> 
> The SHORT STANDARD-MINIMUM of CRITICISM of the RELATIVITY THEORY 
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/standard_en.html
I have to mention: A big howler, Einstein's theory of special relativity
Authors:Paul S. Gulati, S. Gulati
Print Book, English, ©1982
Edition:View all formats and editions
Publisher:Delhi Publications, New Delhi, India, ©1982

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#613171

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-06-18 09:37 +0200
Message-ID<1qchn7l.145c0gk120ajr6N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#613059
Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html
> 
> 
> Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes
> 
> Brief historical information
> 
> List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003)

You could start with the classic 'Hundert Autoren gegen Einstein' (1931)
It has been reprinted in the original German, you can have your fun.
(a bit anti-semitic too, but that doesn't bother you)

Einstein's comment is classic too:
'If they would have had a point one would have sufficed!'

Jan

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#613191

FromDee Kloeten <ddkd@leeenklo.ne>
Date2023-06-18 17:26 +0000
Message-ID<u6nent$3c2sv$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#613171
J. J. Lodder wrote:

> You could start with the classic 'Hundert Autoren gegen Einstein' (1931)
> It has been reprinted in the original German, you can have your fun.
> (a bit anti-semitic too, but that doesn't bother you)

I like you guys, vigilant in physics. For instance, the gay actor zelenske 
in this clip here, *_is_entirely_deepfake_*.

you will never find a video camera with *_such_a_bad_depth_width_*. Also, 
pay attention at his face, moving not naturally. The background is 
blurred, so *_the_interview_is_fake_*.

*_Ukraine_Update_June_17,_2023_*
https://b%69%74%63hute.com/video/Y7Ov1iPN45Y9

always watch the *_width_of_the_depth_*, in the *_collective_west_* 
propaganda mainstream media. They are liars. They 
*_are_united_in_fascism_*.

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#613181

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-18 08:28 -0700
Message-ID<1c1b8859-8360-4e85-9c4f-73e7f0d4a011n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613059
On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 3:32:50 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/index_en.html 
> 
> 
> Section for a preliminary acquaintance with the themes 
> 
> Brief historical information 
> 
> List of opponents of the relativity theory (1905-2003) 
> 
> List of some antirelativistic works (1905-2003) 
> 
> Project "To remember all real first pioneers" 
> 
> Brief standard-minimum for criticism of the relativity theory 
> 
> Author's self-disproof 
> 
> Goals, structure of web-site, contacts, acknowledgements 
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************ 
> 
> The SHORT STANDARD-MINIMUM of CRITICISM of the RELATIVITY THEORY 
> http://www.antidogma.ru/library/standard_en.html
Anyone may like Einstein's Opponents by Milena Wazeck c.2014 Cambridge University Press, although she is stronger on sociology than physics.

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#613182 — Cranks keep wasting their lives away

From"Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-18 08:33 -0700
SubjectCranks keep wasting their lives away
Message-ID<0de0e532-9691-435a-9fc8-d28854e8e102n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613181
On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:28:14 AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

> Anyone may like Einstein's Opponents by Milena Wazeck c.2014 Cambridge University Press, although she is stronger on sociology than physics.

Keep wasting your lives studying antirelativity crap. It is much easier than learning physics. Look at the Richard Hertz crank, he has wasted most of his life this way, soon the dementia will be setting in completely and he will be forgotten, just like the other crank - clowns that graced this forum. 

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#613183 — Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-06-18 18:00 +0200
SubjectRe: Cranks keep wasting their lives away
Message-ID<1qcj8e5.15yqgi71mnnmqyN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#613182
Dono. <eggy20011951@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:28:14?AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> 
> > Anyone may like Einstein's Opponents by Milena Wazeck c.2014 Cambridge
> > University Press, although she is stronger on sociology than physics.
> > 
> Keep wasting your lives studying antirelativity crap. It is much easier
> than learning physics. Look at the Richard Hertz crank, he has wasted most
> of his life this way, soon the dementia will be setting in completely and
> he will be forgotten, just like the other crank - clowns that graced this
> forum.

But somehow there will always be new cranks growing into it,

Jan

-- 
The reason is obvious, I guess.
If you are a nobody with no accomplishments, and nothing to say
you can always try to get some attention by fighting 'orthodoxy'.
(That is, Darwin, or Einstein, or both)


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#613185 — Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-18 09:02 -0700
SubjectRe: Cranks keep wasting their lives away
Message-ID<47169c2d-0694-4cca-9d01-052526269ab4n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613183
On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 18:00:34 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:28:14?AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> > > Anyone may like Einstein's Opponents by Milena Wazeck c.2014 Cambridge 
> > > University Press, although she is stronger on sociology than physics. 
> > > 
> > Keep wasting your lives studying antirelativity crap. It is much easier 
> > than learning physics. Look at the Richard Hertz crank, he has wasted most 
> > of his life this way, soon the dementia will be setting in completely and 
> > he will be forgotten, just like the other crank - clowns that graced this 
> > forum.
> But somehow there will always be new cranks growing into it, 
> 
> Jan 
> 
> -- 
> The reason is obvious, I guess. 

Sure, the mumble of your idiot guru is
violating basic definitions and basic math.

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#613187 — Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away

FromLaurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com>
Date2023-06-18 09:14 -0700
SubjectRe: Cranks keep wasting their lives away
Message-ID<1e9acfc3-154d-4a74-8e9a-097104d3ecf5n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613185
On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:03:00 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 18:00:34 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:28:14?AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > Anyone may like Einstein's Opponents by Milena Wazeck c.2014 Cambridge 
> > > > University Press, although she is stronger on sociology than physics. 
> > > > 
> > > Keep wasting your lives studying antirelativity crap. It is much easier 
> > > than learning physics. Look at the Richard Hertz crank, he has wasted most 
> > > of his life this way, soon the dementia will be setting in completely and 
> > > he will be forgotten, just like the other crank - clowns that graced this 
> > > forum. 
> > But somehow there will always be new cranks growing into it, 
> > 
> > Jan 
> > 
> > -- 
> > The reason is obvious, I guess.
> Sure, the mumble of your idiot guru is 
> violating basic definitions and basic math.
Look at Crotch. He can't add 1C + 1C and get 2C.

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#613189 — Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away

From"Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-18 09:39 -0700
SubjectRe: Cranks keep wasting their lives away
Message-ID<b473c054-619b-4e35-946a-209a9226526fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613183
On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:00:34 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:28:14?AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> > > Anyone may like Einstein's Opponents by Milena Wazeck c.2014 Cambridge 
> > > University Press, although she is stronger on sociology than physics. 
> > > 
> > Keep wasting your lives studying antirelativity crap. It is much easier 
> > than learning physics. Look at the Richard Hertz crank, he has wasted most 
> > of his life this way, soon the dementia will be setting in completely and 
> > he will be forgotten, just like the other crank - clowns that graced this 
> > forum.
> But somehow there will always be new cranks growing into it, 
> 
> Jan 
> 
> -- 
> The reason is obvious, I guess. 
> If you are a nobody with no accomplishments, and nothing to say 
> you can always try to get some attention by fighting 'orthodoxy'. 
> (That is, Darwin, or Einstein, or both)


Absolutely.

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#613192 — Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away

FromJanPB <filmart@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-18 10:32 -0700
SubjectRe: Cranks keep wasting their lives away
Message-ID<31ba6809-457a-4de1-9e1d-c922dd4fba9en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#613183
On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:00:34 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:28:14?AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote: 
> > 
> > > Anyone may like Einstein's Opponents by Milena Wazeck c.2014 Cambridge 
> > > University Press, although she is stronger on sociology than physics. 
> > > 
> > Keep wasting your lives studying antirelativity crap. It is much easier 
> > than learning physics. Look at the Richard Hertz crank, he has wasted most 
> > of his life this way, soon the dementia will be setting in completely and 
> > he will be forgotten, just like the other crank - clowns that graced this 
> > forum.
> 
> But somehow there will always be new cranks growing into it, 

As the old saying goes, these are the people who have acquired just
enough knowledge to hurt themselves.

--
Jan

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#613200 — Re: Cranks keep wasting their lives away

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-06-18 21:07 +0200
SubjectRe: Cranks keep wasting their lives away
Message-ID<1qcjh0x.1x90noaudjbtuN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#613192
JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:00:34?AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:28:14?AM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen:
> > > 
> > > > Anyone may like Einstein's Opponents by Milena Wazeck c.2014 Cambridge
> > > > University Press, although she is stronger on sociology than physics.
> > > > 
> > > Keep wasting your lives studying antirelativity crap. It is much
> > > easier than learning physics. Look at the Richard Hertz crank, he has
> > > wasted most of his life this way, soon the dementia will be setting in
> > > completely and he will be forgotten, just like the other crank -
> > > clowns that graced this forum.
> > 
> > But somehow there will always be new cranks growing into it, 
> 
> As the old saying goes, these are the people who have acquired just
> enough knowledge to hurt themselves.

Like:
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.
It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." (Mark Twain)

I like the impartiality of the laws of physics:
They also hurt people who do not believe in them.
Let them jump off the Eifel tower, believing they can fly,

Jan

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