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Russians are masochists, according to MSM.

Started byRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
First post2023-06-06 14:12 -0700
Last post2023-06-16 13:28 -0700
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  Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-06 14:12 -0700
    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-06 17:38 -0700
      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-11 18:02 -0700
        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-12 22:24 -0700
    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-09 23:20 +0100
      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Carmelo Seeger <orse@eeoreler.rc> - 2023-06-09 23:10 +0000
      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-09 16:21 -0700
        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-09 19:52 -0700
          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-09 23:01 -0700
            Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-10 23:42 -0700
              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-12 10:00 -0700
              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-13 12:30 -0700
                Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-13 23:17 -0700
                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 13:50 -0700
                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 13:57 -0700
                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Earle Marqueringh <rhmq@qramarar.ru> - 2023-06-15 22:17 +0000
                      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 16:04 -0700
                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 21:43 -0700
                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 23:32 -0700
                      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-15 23:36 -0700
                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 14:23 -0700
                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-23 19:46 -0700
                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-24 01:15 -0700
                            Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-24 10:44 -0700
                              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-25 01:50 -0700
                                Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-26 11:30 -0700
                                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-27 14:04 -0700
                                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-27 14:21 -0700
                                      Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-27 21:05 -0700
                                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-06-29 15:00 -0700
                                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-13 10:41 -0700
                                            Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-13 13:32 -0700
                                              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-15 00:34 -0700
                                        Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-09 12:28 -0700
                                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Dillon Kringos <okgi@skgnollg.ln> - 2023-07-09 19:41 +0000
                                          Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-28 13:36 -0700
                                            Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-28 13:49 -0700
                                            Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-07-29 22:30 -0700
                                              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-05 22:09 -0700
                                                Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-07 23:49 -0700
                                                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 06:17 -0400
                                                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-08 10:52 -0700
                                              Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-21 23:47 -0700
                                                Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-23 12:36 -0700
                                                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-23 14:11 -0700
                                                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-23 15:11 -0700
                                                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 17:14 -0500
                                                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-23 23:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 17:13 -0500
                                                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 17:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 20:07 -0400
    Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-06-16 13:28 -0700

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#612275 — Russians are masochists, according to MSM.

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-06 14:12 -0700
SubjectRussians are masochists, according to MSM.
Message-ID<53c1f177-639c-4d2b-aad3-382094b2def3n@googlegroups.com>
Western mainstream media: 

🔴The Russians blew up their own NordStream pipeline

🔴The Kremlin ordered a drone strike on the Kremlin

🔴Russia blew up the Nova Kakhovka dam to destroy the defences they had spent over half a year building and deny water supplies to Crimea

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kievs-long-term-last-resort-plan-blow-kakhova-dam-exposed



I quote the most voted comment here:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-wall-water-surges-through-ukraine-after-major-dam-blown

Buck O Five, 9 hours ago.

So the russians blew up the dam (under russian control) which supplies water to Crimea (under russian control) and the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant (under russian control).

Seems legit.

560 upvotes
10 downvotes

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#612288

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-06 17:38 -0700
Message-ID<647FD179.79A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612275
Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> Western mainstream media:
> 
> 🔴The Russians blew up their own NordStream pipeline
> 
> 🔴The Kremlin ordered a drone strike on the Kremlin
> 
> 🔴Russia blew up the Nova Kakhovka dam to destroy the defences they had spent over half a year building and deny water supplies to Crimea
> 
> https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kievs-long-term-last-resort-plan-blow-kakhova-dam-exposed
> 
> I quote the most voted comment here:
> 
> https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-wall-water-surges-through-ukraine-after-major-dam-blown
> 
> Buck O Five, 9 hours ago.
> 
> So the russians blew up the dam (under russian control) which supplies water to Crimea (under russian control) and the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant (under russian control).
> 
> Seems legit.
> 
> 560 upvotes
> 10 downvotes


What difference does it make who blew up the dam??? IT FUCKIN WAR!!! YOU SUPPOSE TO BLOW UP STUFF!

a couple of atomic bombs won't hurt either..


I'll make good Tv! I'm tired of watching tvee of people stealing toothpaste from wallgreens...


and i wanna see some of those videos of russians raping ukranium hot chicks (while their husbands watch)!

the russians are comming... 






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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#612682

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-11 18:02 -0700
Message-ID<8dpc8id8f2kip7o7pgjade28uqvu6o3npr@4ax.com>
In reply to#612288
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 17:38:17 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Richard Hertz wrote:
>> 
>> Western mainstream media:
>> 
>> 🔴The Russians blew up their own NordStream pipeline
>> 
>> 🔴The Kremlin ordered a drone strike on the Kremlin
>> 
>> 🔴Russia blew up the Nova Kakhovka dam to destroy the defences they had spent over half a year building and deny water supplies to Crimea
>> 
>> https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kievs-long-term-last-resort-plan-blow-kakhova-dam-exposed
>> 
>> I quote the most voted comment here:
>> 
>> https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-wall-water-surges-through-ukraine-after-major-dam-blown
>> 
>> Buck O Five, 9 hours ago.
>> 
>> So the russians blew up the dam (under russian control) which supplies water to Crimea (under russian control) and the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant (under russian control).
>> 
>> Seems legit.
>> 
>> 560 upvotes
>> 10 downvotes
>
>
>What difference does it make who blew up the dam??? IT FUCKIN WAR!!! YOU SUPPOSE TO BLOW UP STUFF!
>
>a couple of atomic bombs won't hurt either..
>
>


Let me explain all about...blowing things up.

In a war, you blow things up.

Albert Einstein was an expert in blowing things up.

Albert Einstein said: "A single bomb of this
type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy
the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory."

Albert Einstein wrote:

"According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
you were visiting me
it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
to explosion
a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
would like to submit to you for your judgement. 


Albert Einstein knew the Military loves to blow things up...
whether it's a ship or a country...blow it up!

Remember, Albert Einstein worked with Lt. Stephen Brunauer, who was
head and in charge of the High Explosives Division in the military and
they paid him $25.00 a day.


Come on, I'm an expert in blowing things up...
in the military...my job was 'blowing things up!'. Everyday!!

Look at Russia and Ukraine today...blowing each up.


Those building you that are destroyed were...blown up.


You pull a pin from a grenade...it blows up!


You use it to blow up peoples legs off.

There is all kinds of High Explosives devices. Ask Albert Einstein.

In the letter to Roosevelt...
https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first

it reads: "In the course of the last four months it has been made
probable -

through the work of Joliot in France..."


Now, who is Joliot???


"Joliot-Curie served as a member of the French Resistance, and was key
in coordinating 'the production of the Molotov cocktails' that
Resistance members used to destroy German tanks."



You can solve all the world's problems by simply blowing up the Earth!
No more hunger, no more wars, no more crime, no more ...


Now, who is thinking about blowing up the earth now? Or are yous just
going to do it a little at a time... building by building, country by
country..

Blow up the earth.

The food is terrible here..



 










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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
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#612768

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-12 22:24 -0700
Message-ID<6487FD74.21E2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612682
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 17:38:17 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Richard Hertz wrote:
> >>
> >> Western mainstream media:
> >>
> >> 🔴The Russians blew up their own NordStream pipeline
> >>
> >> 🔴The Kremlin ordered a drone strike on the Kremlin
> >>
> >> 🔴Russia blew up the Nova Kakhovka dam to destroy the defences they had spent over half a year building and deny water supplies to Crimea
> >>
> >> https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kievs-long-term-last-resort-plan-blow-kakhova-dam-exposed
> >>
> >> I quote the most voted comment here:
> >>
> >> https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-wall-water-surges-through-ukraine-after-major-dam-blown
> >>
> >> Buck O Five, 9 hours ago.
> >>
> >> So the russians blew up the dam (under russian control) which supplies water to Crimea (under russian control) and the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant (under russian control).
> >>
> >> Seems legit.
> >>
> >> 560 upvotes
> >> 10 downvotes
> >
> >
> >What difference does it make who blew up the dam??? IT FUCKIN WAR!!! YOU SUPPOSE TO BLOW UP STUFF!
> >
> >a couple of atomic bombs won't hurt either..
> >
> >
> 
> Let me explain all about...blowing things up.
> 
> In a war, you blow things up.
> 
> Albert Einstein was an expert in blowing things up.
> 
> Albert Einstein said: "A single bomb of this
> type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy
> the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory."
> 
> Albert Einstein wrote:
> 
> "According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
> you were visiting me
> it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
> to explosion
> a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
> I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
> would like to submit to you for your judgement.
> 
> Albert Einstein knew the Military loves to blow things up...
> whether it's a ship or a country...blow it up!
> 
> Remember, Albert Einstein worked with Lt. Stephen Brunauer, who was
> head and in charge of the High Explosives Division in the military and
> they paid him $25.00 a day.
> 
> Come on, I'm an expert in blowing things up...
> in the military...my job was 'blowing things up!'. Everyday!!
> 
> Look at Russia and Ukraine today...blowing each up.
> 
> Those building you that are destroyed were...blown up.
> 
> You pull a pin from a grenade...it blows up!
> 
> You use it to blow up peoples legs off.
> 
> There is all kinds of High Explosives devices. Ask Albert Einstein.
> 
> In the letter to Roosevelt...
> https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> 
> it reads: "In the course of the last four months it has been made
> probable -
> 
> through the work of Joliot in France..."
> 
> Now, who is Joliot???
> 
> "Joliot-Curie served as a member of the French Resistance, and was key
> in coordinating 'the production of the Molotov cocktails' that
> Resistance members used to destroy German tanks."
> 
> You can solve all the world's problems by simply blowing up the Earth!
> No more hunger, no more wars, no more crime, no more ...
> 
> Now, who is thinking about blowing up the earth now? Or are yous just
> going to do it a little at a time... building by building, country by
> country..
> 
> Blow up the earth.
> 
> The food is terrible here..

Now, here are some interestings facts 'others' don't want you
to know about.... Albert Einstein and Richard Feynman... 

They both worked for the military building bombs at the same time, and
got paid the same amount $25.00 a day. They both had security clearance with
the military. They both ended their bomb making work at the same time after the war ended.


They both worked for the Manhattan Project.

They both had the same job title for the Manhattan Project: Theoretical Physics.

They both got paid the same salary, as a consultant at $25.00 per day.

They both worked building the atomic bomb.

The only differences between the two of them...

Richard Feynman worked inside The Manhattan Project, and Albert Einstein
did remote work from his home.

Here is a picture of Albert Einstein alone at his remote work home office...

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1668485592110497792/photo/1


Here is a picture of Albert Einstein at the same  remote work home office talking to
Lieutenant Stephen Brunauer who was in charge of the "High Explosives Division."

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1668486452475482112/photo/1




Albert Einstein didn't like to wear socks, and he didn't like to get out of the house either.


You want bombs, you gotta go to Albert Einstein's house...



Dear Lieutenant Brunauer:

Professor Einstein has told me of his con-
versation with you and showed me your
gracious letter of May 13th suggesting arrange-
ments under which he may be of assistance to
the Navy for theoretical research on explo-
sives and explosions.

In talking over the matter with Professor
Einstein he and I have both come to the
conclusion that probably the best arrangement
would be for the Navy to make an individual
contract with him on the basis of $25 per day,
Einstein's security clearance was ob-
tained very quickly, and the contract was
signed on May 31 . Soon after that, I made
my second trip to Einstein, taking to him
for consideration one of the toughest
problems that puzzled us at that time. The
problem was whether the detonation of a
torpedo should be initiated in the front or
in the rear. 



(Albert Einstein really had nothing else to do...)



 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#612560

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-06-09 23:20 +0100
Message-ID<u608k0$2186n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#612275
On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Russians are masochists, according to MSM.

They sure are!

Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a 
couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out.

Get your iodine pills now!

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#612564

FromCarmelo Seeger <orse@eeoreler.rc>
Date2023-06-09 23:10 +0000
Message-ID<u60bgs$3kmvo$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#612560
Volney wrote:

> On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
> 
> T̶h̶e̶y̶ s̶u̶r̶e̶ a̶r̶e̶!
> T̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ n̶e̶x̶t̶ "t̶r̶i̶c̶k̶" w̶i̶l̶l̶ b̶e̶ t̶o̶ b̶l̶o̶w̶ u̶p̶ t̶h̶a̶t̶ n̶u̶k̶e̶ p̶l̶a̶n̶t̶, l̶i̶k̶e̶l̶y̶ i̶n̶ a̶
> c̶o̶u̶p̶l̶e̶ o̶f̶ w̶e̶e̶k̶s̶ w̶h̶e̶n̶ t̶h̶e̶y̶'r̶e̶ a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ t̶o̶ g̶e̶t̶ k̶i̶c̶k̶e̶d̶ o̶u̶t̶.
> G̶e̶t̶ y̶o̶u̶r̶ i̶o̶d̶i̶n̶e̶ p̶i̶l̶l̶s̶ n̶o̶w̶!

sit down, you fool, capitalist america loses the war in fucking ukraine 
and everywhere.

*_CNN_can't_believe_ukraine_heavy_loses_*
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/iAkxWgPEFasL

*_Leopard,_M2_Bradley_and_other_equipment_deserted_in_Zaporozhye_*
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/i7Ktd6XKYOo0

*_Ukraine_Update_June_9,_2023_*
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/wRRJUgPYh4Ll

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#612565

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2023-06-09 16:21 -0700
Message-ID<ea1b349e-5dfa-4aa3-899a-ee3c4774e259n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#612560
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > Russians are masochists, according to MSM. 
> 
> They sure are! 
> 
> Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a 
> couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out. 
> 
> Get your iodine pills now!

The chief of Wagner group is accusing Moscow of having plans to use a tactical nuke within Russia, at Belgorod.

What about that?

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#612570

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-09 19:52 -0700
Message-ID<6483E56D.2762@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612565
Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
> >
> > They sure are!
> >
> > Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a
> > couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out.
> >
> > Get your iodine pills now!
> 
> The chief of Wagner group is accusing Moscow of having plans to use a tactical nuke within Russia, at Belgorod.
> 
> What about that?

He's a ...Mad Russian..


https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C


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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#612577

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-09 23:01 -0700
Message-ID<648411CC.3AF3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612570
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > > On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
> > >
> > > They sure are!
> > >
> > > Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a
> > > couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out.
> > >
> > > Get your iodine pills now!
> >
> > The chief of Wagner group is accusing Moscow of having plans to use a tactical nuke within Russia, at Belgorod.
> >
> > What about that?
> 
> He's a ...Mad Russian..
> 
> https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C



He's thinks he's Lee Marvin...and his...Dirty Dozen.


I guess Ukraine must be the nazi's...

which side you're on, the commies or the nazis?





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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#612643

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-10 23:42 -0700
Message-ID<64856CF3.1D11@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612577
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > > > On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
> > > >
> > > > They sure are!
> > > >
> > > > Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a
> > > > couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out.
> > > >
> > > > Get your iodine pills now!
> > >
> > > The chief of Wagner group is accusing Moscow of having plans to use a tactical nuke within Russia, at Belgorod.
> > >
> > > What about that?
> >
> > He's a ...Mad Russian..
> >
> > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> 
> He's thinks he's Lee Marvin...and his...Dirty Dozen.
> 
> I guess Ukraine must be the nazi's...
> 
> which side you're on, the commies or the nazis?


But, I'm a little confused...
which side are you people on? The Commies side or the Nazi's side????


I know during the ww2 it was the nazi's against the commies...

which side were you with then?

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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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#612706

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-12 10:00 -0700
Message-ID<64874F15.27AF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612643
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > > > > On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > > Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
> > > > >
> > > > > They sure are!
> > > > >
> > > > > Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a
> > > > > couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Get your iodine pills now!
> > > >
> > > > The chief of Wagner group is accusing Moscow of having plans to use a tactical nuke within Russia, at Belgorod.
> > > >
> > > > What about that?
> > >
> > > He's a ...Mad Russian..
> > >
> > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> >
> > He's thinks he's Lee Marvin...and his...Dirty Dozen.
> >
> > I guess Ukraine must be the nazi's...
> >
> > which side you're on, the commies or the nazis?
> 
> But, I'm a little confused...
> which side are you people on? The Commies side or the Nazi's side????
> 
> I know during the ww2 it was the nazi's against the commies...
> 
> which side were you with then?


I guess yous people have always been on the side of the...Nazi's. 








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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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#612826

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-13 12:30 -0700
Message-ID<6488C3DD.CC2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612643
This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C


Believe it or not, will become the next President of Russia!



I'm going to have to go to Russia myself and give him a grenade sandwitch.


i don't have time for politics.













The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> > > > > On 6/6/2023 10:12 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > > Russians are masochists, according to MSM.
> > > > >
> > > > > They sure are!
> > > > >
> > > > > Their next "trick" will be to blow up that nuke plant, likely in a
> > > > > couple of weeks when they're about to get kicked out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Get your iodine pills now!
> > > >
> > > > The chief of Wagner group is accusing Moscow of having plans to use a tactical nuke within Russia, at Belgorod.
> > > >
> > > > What about that?
> > >
> > > He's a ...Mad Russian..
> > >
> > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> >
> > He's thinks he's Lee Marvin...and his...Dirty Dozen.
> >
> > I guess Ukraine must be the nazi's...
> >
> > which side you're on, the commies or the nazis?
> 
> But, I'm a little confused...
> which side are you people on? The Commies side or the Nazi's side????
> 
> I know during the ww2 it was the nazi's against the commies...
> 
> which side were you with then?
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#612886

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-13 23:17 -0700
Message-ID<64895B60.479F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612826
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> 
> https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> 
> Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!


Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

(Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal. 
In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft. 
While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries. 
There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad. 
In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
 the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
 a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
 the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
 by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
 One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.





"stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?




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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#612988

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-15 13:50 -0700
Message-ID<648B7988.2AF6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612886
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> >
> > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> >
> > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> 
> Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> 
> Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> 
> (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> 
> Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
>  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
>  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into

>  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
>  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
>  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> 
> "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?



Oh oh, i see a drone...is he going to kill me!!!



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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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#612989

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-15 13:57 -0700
Message-ID<648B7B32.536@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612886
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> >
> > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> >
> > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> 
> Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> 
> Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> 
> (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> 
> Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
>  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
>  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
>  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
>  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
>  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> 
> "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. 


He's Putin's kind of guy...


i cannot imagine another better canidate. All he needs now is to install Dominion Voting Machines in Russia and he's President!


stick a usb in the machine and you're in like flint.


How amny votes you want, 10 million? No problem, take the usb stick out and no trace.


Dominion Voting Machines...there is no subsitute!  


Sold to Dictators everywhere!!!






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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#612991

FromEarle Marqueringh <rhmq@qramarar.ru>
Date2023-06-15 22:17 +0000
Message-ID<u6g2m1$25gci$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#612989
The Starmaker wrote:

> This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President
> for Russia...he's strickly criminal. He's Putin's kind of guy...

stop spamming, you retarded imbecile. I shit on you and your shithole of a 
terrorist country. You don't even know you are a terrorist.

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#612992

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-15 16:04 -0700
Message-ID<648B9913.54CD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612991
Where can I buy one of those small drones that shoot and kill people? 


I got buyers in Columbia and cartels in Mexico that will buy all I can
get....


and women who want to kill their husbands...


hell, everybody wants one now!


even Putin is a customer...and Kamala Harris! (who do she want dead????)
(probably a White guy she knows)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2W8yRa9XuA


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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#613007

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-15 21:43 -0700
Message-ID<648BE859.3756@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612992
Where can I buy one of those small drones that shoot and kill people? 


I got buyers in Columbia and cartels in Mexico that will buy all I can
get....


and women who want to kill their husbands...


hell, everybody wants one now!


even Putin is a customer...and Kamala Harris! (who do she want dead????)
(probably a White guy she knows)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2W8yRa9XuA





-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#613017

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-15 23:32 -0700
Message-ID<648C0201.35B3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#612989
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > >
> > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > >
> > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> >
> > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> >
> > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> >
> > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> >
> > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> >
> > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> 
> This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> 
> He's Putin's kind of guy...

Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
underboss.

Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

If you need a little more understanding...


By Garry Kasparov
When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
the medieval red walls.

Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
into private accounts.

Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
over the main suspect in the murder.

Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
all just cards to be played.



-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#613018

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-06-15 23:36 -0700
Message-ID<648C02F3.2CDD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#613017
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> > > >
> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
> > > >
> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> > >
> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> > >
> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> > >
> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> > >
> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> > >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> > >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> > >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> > >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> > >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> > >
> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> >
> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> >
> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> 
> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> underboss.
> 
> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> 
> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> 
> If you need a little more understanding...
> 
> By Garry Kasparov
> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> 
> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> the medieval red walls.
> 
> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> 
> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> 
> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> 
> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> 
> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> into private accounts.
> 
> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> over the main suspect in the murder.
> 
> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> 
> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> all just cards to be played.



Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.







> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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