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Solar System

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2018-12-06 00:26 -0800
Last post2018-12-08 22:59 -0800
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  Solar System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-12-06 00:26 -0800
    Solar System "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-06 03:19 -0800
      Re: Solar System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-06 16:15 +0100
        Re: Solar System "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-06 14:03 -0800
          Re: Solar System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-06 23:45 +0100
    Re: Solar System casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2018-12-07 14:26 -0500
      Re: Solar System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-07 21:16 +0100
    Re: Solar System Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-12-08 20:29 +1100
      Re: Solar System Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-12-08 20:39 +1100
        Re: Solar System Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-12-09 19:43 +1100
    Re: Solar System The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-12-08 22:59 -0800

#479169 — Solar System

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-12-06 00:26 -0800
SubjectSolar System
Message-ID<5C08DD4C.2509@ix.netcom.com>
okay, let's be real here...

There is only one solar system in the entire universe, isn't that correct?


Our solar system is the only solar system that exist in the universe, isn't that correct?





so·lar sys·tem
 

    the collection of eight planets and their moons in orbit around the sun, together with smaller bodies in the form of asteroids, meteoroids, and comets.






Our sun, and it's planets  around it is the only solar system that exist in our galaxy and all the galaxies in the universe, isn't that correct?

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#479173

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-12-06 03:19 -0800
Message-ID<50cf487d-dc7a-433e-b96b-bc3eaabc2fb6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479169
Maybe metaphorically

All the other stars & planets could be a reflection of our own solar system from a different time and Relativistic perspective

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#479186

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-12-06 16:15 +0100
Message-ID<6399e99d-f2e4-6124-6abf-4e4aad834780@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#479173
David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> Maybe metaphorically

More like “nonsensically”.

> All the other stars & planets could be a reflection of our own solar system from a different time and Relativistic perspective

No.

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PointedEars

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#479214

From"David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2018-12-06 14:03 -0800
Message-ID<91c5f324-bb2a-459c-9603-94040e7d8b24@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#479186
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
> Maybe metaphorically 

More like “nonsensically”. 

> All the other stars & planets could be a reflection of our own solar system from a different time and Relativistic perspective 

No. 


Your such a smarty pants!!!

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#479216

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-12-06 23:45 +0100
Message-ID<8296887f-d2c6-95c3-851e-9fa2012f5c77@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#479214
David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
>> David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
>>> Maybe metaphorically 
>> More like “nonsensically”. 
>> 
>>> All the other stars & planets could be a reflection of our own solar system from a different time and Relativistic perspective 
>> No. 
> 
> Your such a smarty pants!!!

Thank you.

By contrast, you still cannot quote properly.  Look above how it is done.
It is not that hard to do.

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PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#479258

Fromcasagiannoni@optonline.net
Date2018-12-07 14:26 -0500
Message-ID<d3il0e5kk2u6s2kl6tui6iidqd4vppsjfk@4ax.com>
In reply to#479169
>okay, let's be real here...
>
>There is only one solar system in the entire universe, isn't that correct?
>
Yes
>
>Our solar system is the only solar system that exist in the universe, isn't that correct?
>
Yes
>
>so·lar sys·tem
> 
>    the collection of eight planets and their moons in orbit around the sun, together with smaller bodies in the form of asteroids, meteoroids, and comets.
>
>Our sun, and it's planets  around it is the only solar system that exist in our galaxy and all the galaxies in the universe, isn't that correct?

Solar is a direct reference to the Sun and only the Sun.

Solar system is therefore the Sun system, hence the sun and everything
in orbits aroung the Sun.

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#479264

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-12-07 21:16 +0100
Message-ID<53d87ab1-2ace-c118-f55a-e01e3a92e43d@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#479258
casagiannoni@optonline.net amok-crossposted to 3 newsgroups without Followup-To:

>> There is only one solar system in the entire universe, isn't that
>> correct?
> 
> Yes

That depends on the definition.  If “solar system” is supposed to mean the
same as “planetary system”, then the correct answer is most definitely “no”.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exoplanet>

>> Our solar system is the only solar system that exist in the universe,
>> isn't that correct?
> 
> Yes

See above.

>> so·lar sys·tem
>> 
>> the collection of eight planets and their moons in orbit around the
>> sun, together with smaller bodies in the form of asteroids, meteoroids,
>> and comets.

What are you citing there?

A correct name is “Solar System”, with two *capital* S’s.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System>
<https://iau.org/public/themes/naming/>

>> Our sun, and it's planets  around it is the only solar system that
>> exist in our galaxy and all the galaxies in the universe, isn't that
>> correct?
> 
> Solar is a direct reference to the Sun and only the Sun.

Not necessarily.  For example, *solar* panels and *solar* sails will also
work in another planetary/star system.

> Solar system is therefore the Sun system, hence the sun and everything in
> orbits aroung the Sun.

That is only one possible way to define the term.

Because of this ambiguity, I prefer the Latin designation for the main star
of this planet, Sol, and call the planetary system “the Sol system”.
Likewise for the planet, Terra (Earth), and its companion, Luna (the Moon).

You will find at least the first designation being supported, and used, in
astronomy software like Celestia: when the star is selected, it displays
“Sol / Sun”, and it supports searching for the star by both names.

Since you have also amok-crossposted to rec.arts.sf.written:

The Latin designation is also common in science-fiction: for example, in
/Star Trek/, the “Sol System” is located in the galactic sector 0-0-1
(probably because the United Federation of Planets has its headquarters there).

“Terra” is often used by extra-terrestrial characters; for example, the
Vulcans in /Star Trek/ refer to the planet as “Terra” and humans as
“Terrans” (at least among themselves, e.g. in “Star Trek Ⅴ: The Final
Frontier” and Diane Duane’s “Spock’s World”; more recently, “Star Trek:
Enterprise” has established this use by other extra-terrestrials as well).
And indeed, it does not make sense that they would refer to a *foreign* star
as ”the Sun”, a *foreign* planet as “Earth”, and its *foreign* moon/twin
planet as “*the* Moon”.

F’up2 sci.astro

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Twitter: @PointedEars2
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#479313

FromDaniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2018-12-08 20:29 +1100
Message-ID<pug2u8$qrg$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#479169
The Starmaker wrote on 6/12/2018 7:26 PM:
> okay, let's be real here...
> 
> There is only one solar system in the entire universe, isn't that
> correct?
> 
> Our solar system is the only solar system that exist in the universe,
> isn't that correct?
> 
> so·lar sys·tem
> 
> the collection of eight planets and their moons in orbit around the
> sun, together with smaller bodies in the form of asteroids,
> meteoroids, and comets.
> 
> Our sun, and it's planets  around it is the only solar system that
> exist in our galaxy and all the galaxies in the universe, isn't that
> correct?
> 
Correct .... unless, of course, some aliens might have also named their 
Star "Sol"

-- 
Daniel

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#479315

FromWhisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>
Date2018-12-08 20:39 +1100
Message-ID<lKidnSlpoLb7DJbBnZ2dnUU7-TmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#479313
On 8/12/2018 8:29 pm, Daniel60 wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote on 6/12/2018 7:26 PM:
>> okay, let's be real here...
>>
>> There is only one solar system in the entire universe, isn't that
>> correct?
>>
>> Our solar system is the only solar system that exist in the universe,
>> isn't that correct?
>>
>> so·lar sys·tem
>>
>> the collection of eight planets and their moons in orbit around the
>> sun, together with smaller bodies in the form of asteroids,
>> meteoroids, and comets.
>>
>> Our sun, and it's planets  around it is the only solar system that
>> exist in our galaxy and all the galaxies in the universe, isn't that
>> correct?
>>
> Correct .... unless, of course, some aliens might have also named their 
> Star "Sol"
> 

A certainty, given the universe is infinite.


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#479445

FromDaniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2018-12-09 19:43 +1100
Message-ID<puikim$a2e$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#479315
Whisper wrote on 8/12/2018 8:39 PM:
> On 8/12/2018 8:29 pm, Daniel60 wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote on 6/12/2018 7:26 PM:
>>> okay, let's be real here...
>>>
>>> There is only one solar system in the entire universe, isn't that
>>> correct?
>>>
>>> Our solar system is the only solar system that exist in the universe,
>>> isn't that correct?
>>>
>>> so·lar sys·tem
>>>
>>> the collection of eight planets and their moons in orbit around the
>>> sun, together with smaller bodies in the form of asteroids,
>>> meteoroids, and comets.
>>>
>>> Our sun, and it's planets  around it is the only solar system that
>>> exist in our galaxy and all the galaxies in the universe, isn't that
>>> correct?
>>>
>> Correct .... unless, of course, some aliens might have also named 
>> their Star "Sol"
> 
> A certainty, given the universe is infinite.
> 
I would suggest "An almost certainty ...."! ;-P

-- 
Daniel

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#479438

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-12-08 22:59 -0800
Message-ID<5C0CBD65.7A42@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#479169
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> okay, let's be real here...
> 
> There is only one solar system in the entire universe, isn't that correct?
> 
> Our solar system is the only solar system that exist in the universe, isn't that correct?
> 
> so·lar sys·tem
> 
> 
>     the collection of eight planets and their moons in orbit around the sun, together with smaller bodies in the form of asteroids, meteoroids, and comets.
> 
> Our sun, and it's planets  around it is the only solar system that exist in our galaxy and all the galaxies in the universe, isn't that correct?


There is only one solar system in the entire universe...of course it's a secret. You're not suppose to know that or think that.


Has anyone in the 'scientific community' every stated or written a book with a title like:


Life Does Not Exist on Other Planets

or

Life Does Not Exist Elsewhere in the Universe

or 


Life Does Not Exist on Mars




They would stone him to death...

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