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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2018-11-17 22:26 -0800 |
| Last post | 2018-11-28 15:09 -0800 |
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How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-17 22:26 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-11-18 19:39 +1100
Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-18 15:46 +0100
Re: How many Black Holes are there? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-18 15:48 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 15:55 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-18 19:35 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 09:36 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-19 11:55 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-20 10:20 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-20 13:28 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-20 17:54 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-21 10:28 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-21 23:46 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-24 14:01 -0800
How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:28 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-20 14:51 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-21 03:04 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-21 03:45 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 15:27 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-21 00:57 +0100
Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 15:54 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 16:09 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-20 16:13 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 12:21 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-21 22:13 +0100
Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 12:23 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 15:17 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 12:28 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 13:30 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 13:35 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 13:44 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 17:03 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 18:37 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-25 04:18 +0100
Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-25 07:38 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-25 07:51 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-11-25 07:57 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-25 11:34 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-11-25 12:27 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:38 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-25 23:23 +0100
Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:48 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:50 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 12:32 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-25 22:10 +0100
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 14:11 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-25 23:47 +0100
Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 15:02 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 15:37 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 16:18 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 17:16 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 17:21 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 17:57 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 18:23 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 13:22 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 13:40 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 13:16 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 13:25 -0800
Re: How many Black Holes are there? carleto4157990662@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 15:09 -0800
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| From | numbernumber1964@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 15:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1400dd6c-867f-4711-b02c-317b3c55db7b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
If you cannot determine the distance to a galaxy then do the gallies acturally exist? bitcoin
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| From | numbernumber1964@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 16:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1de1fd5f-0498-466d-9eda-0e943b22dd20@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
A 4.22 light year star does not dim.
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| From | numbernumber1964@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 16:13 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b97dd60e-0ace-488a-9fa6-3ee48b9f867a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
How can you detect the variation of a star 1,000 ly from the earth unless you brain is made of shit and peanuts or you eat shit with peanuts in it or just a plain shit sandwich with mayo.
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| From | numbernumber1964@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 12:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <cd365e77-2328-4a4d-b968-6bf24a6463c2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
Nancy neuter Trump.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 22:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <219800aa-4700-3307-289a-7878a96a8c15@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #477757 |
numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote: > Nancy neuter Trump. Your off-topic postings have been reported as spam. Please seek professional psychiatric help. F’up2 news.admin.net-abuse.usenet -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | numbernumber1964@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 12:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <23f687c2-20fb-42ad-bcb2-bcfb6727f6ac@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
How did astronomers take the photographs of the Milky way?
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 15:17 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <3dd62332-f54e-409b-8f5d-cf5682f00e15@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477759 |
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 12:23:34 PM UTC-8, numbernu...@gmail.com wrote: > How did astronomers take the photographs of the Milky way? The same way that non-astronomers take pictures of the Milky Way, of course...
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| From | numbernumber1964@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 12:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2032adc0-699b-46d1-91b8-f1d30232956c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
Can you see an electron using a lens microscope; conversely, you can only resolve (see) images that max at Pluto. Even if you use the SUn motion of max parallax distance would be 14 ly yet a galaxy is said to be 1,000 ly from the earth. Come up guys or more like girls use your brain or stop use other people brains to do your thinking.
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| From | numbernumber1964@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 13:30 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <a1017070-69e5-4d54-9620-ea91d126252c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
Nancy neutered Trump with a butter knife and tomorrow the republicans will be eating crow or at least it will certainly taste like it.
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| From | consequently7990662@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-24 13:35 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <32e2e6f4-bfbf-4dfe-a77f-5fe2d73f39e1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
The photo of the Milky way a fake.
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-24 13:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ac7bc336-15f4-4062-bd08-f80467ff2cae@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478010 |
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 1:35:31 PM UTC-8, consequen...@gmail.com wrote: > The photo of the Milky way a fake. Which photo would that be?
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| From | carleto4157990662@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-24 17:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6be18875-8ff6-4c18-8168-b84d90ab0f42@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
The Hubble has the resolution of .1 arcsec. How can you determine the existence of a black hole?
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-24 18:37 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <cc9ad7ad-5ec5-4292-ae8c-29b6fb641e32@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478032 |
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 5:03:35 PM UTC-8, carleto4...@gmail.com wrote: > The Hubble has the resolution of .1 arcsec. How can you determine the existence of a black hole? I'm not sure why you can't just research this for yourself, it is not like it is hard to do. I copied and pasted your entire 2 sentences into Google, here are the results... https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Hubble+has+the+resolution+of+.1+arcsec.+How+can+you+determine+the+existence+of+a+black+hole&rlz=1C1ILPI_enUS745US745&oq=The+Hubble+has+the+resolution+of+.1+arcsec.+How+can+you+determine+the+existence+of+a+black+hole&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64l3.1850j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Read the first 5 or 6 (I did) and you will learn a lot. Keep in mind that we CANNOT see a black hole, we can only infer its presence because of its interactions with the stars in its vicinity. Understand also that 'regular' optical telescopes, as you have noted, are limited in their resolution, whereas Very Long Base interferometers can have amazing resolutions at radio wavelengths. You can read all about interferometers here... https://www.google.com/search?num=20&rlz=1C1ILPI_enUS745US745&ei=Hgb6W-GqFZG3ggeiqo2wBw&q=optical+interferometer+telescope&oq=optical+interferometer&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0l4j0i22i30l6.1107089.1112402..1115607...0.0..0.193.3504.0j22......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j35i39j0i67j0i131i67.PI5S2YAik9g
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-11-25 04:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <7ea64d13-6ddf-0dbb-ebfc-2e6f21aa6a1c@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #478032 |
carleto4157990662@gmail.com wrote: > The Hubble has the resolution of .1 arcsec. If you are referring to the Hubble _Space Telescope_ (HST): No. It is “about 1/20 of an arcsecond”, so 0.05″. <http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/hubbles_universe_unfiltered/blogs/angular-resolution-and-what-hubble-cant-see> > How can you determine the existence of a black hole? Easily, then, observing its “sphere of influence”. <https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9711299> Next time, do your own homework. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-25 07:38 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d75dbf54-ed85-409d-aa58-5b5a60f4b07a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478052 |
((13.8880509 billion (years / s) * pi * c)^2) / (1.70377849e+53 (kg^(-1))) = 1 joules 1 / (((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) * ((pi * 299792458) * kelvin)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 1.00206714 (1 (kelvin^(-1))) / ((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 943772665 = Electron Temp https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-25 07:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ef800243-53d7-456b-a660-ea25499ab319@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478085 |
((13.8880509 billion (years / s) * pi * c)^2) / (1.70377849e+53 (kg^(-1))) = 1 joules 1 / (((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) * ((pi * 299792458) * kelvin)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 1.00206714 (1 (kelvin^(-1))) / ((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 943772665 = Electron Temp https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 943772665/(376.730313462*137.035999172/2)^2/2^0.5 = 1.00157139523 (((376.730313462 * 137.035999172) / 2)^2) * (2^0.5) = 942291951.921 Kelvin 376.730313462 / 137.03599 = 2.74913410311 Kelvin
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-25 07:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <414ced53-2f4b-42e2-abc6-4ab208e14cf4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #478087 |
((13.8880509 billion (years / s) * pi * c)^2) / (1.70377849e+53 (kg^(-1))) = 1 joules 1 / (((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) * ((pi * 299792458) * kelvin)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 1.00206714 (1 (kelvin^(-1))) / ((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 943772665 = Electron Temp https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 943772665/(376.730313462*137.035999172/2)^2/2^0.5 = 1.00157139523 (((376.730313462 * 137.035999172) / 2)^2) * (2^0.5) = 942291951.921 Kelvin 376.730313462 / 137.03599 = 2.74913410311 Kelvin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Hall_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-25 11:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5BFAF948.7C38@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #478085 |
David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > > ((13.8880509 billion (years / s) * pi * c)^2) / (1.70377849e+53 (kg^(-1))) = 1 joules > > 1 / (((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) * ((pi * 299792458) * kelvin)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 1.00206714 > > (1 (kelvin^(-1))) / ((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 943772665 = Electron Temp > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 are you a number person? i heard of ...those people. the number people. it's like a tribe.. the tree people the word people the number people but the number people are the...weirdest! (don't tell girls you are a number person, it's like telling her you have ...aids!)
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-25 12:27 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5BFB059D.35F5@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #478101 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > > > > ((13.8880509 billion (years / s) * pi * c)^2) / (1.70377849e+53 (kg^(-1))) = 1 joules > > > > 1 / (((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) * ((pi * 299792458) * kelvin)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 1.00206714 > > > > (1 (kelvin^(-1))) / ((Boltzmann constant / (9.1224509E+20 pascals)) / ((2.4263102367E-12 m)^3)) = 943772665 = Electron Temp > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dGOjOuRXXIBSg-0N-vBovhwDCnrMbBioONasYH9FG0 > > are you a number person? i heard of ...those people. > > the number people. > > it's like a tribe.. > > the tree people > the word people > the number people > > but the number people are the...weirdest! > > (don't tell girls you are a number person, it's like telling her you have ...aids!) lets hears some of those 'words of wisdom' of yours...
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| From | consequently7990662@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-11-25 11:38 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1bbb15de-e7b4-4cd9-a669-61f54efb6cfb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #477398 |
Don't brother me with links. Explain in your own words. So, with a Hubble resolution of .1 arcsec how do you determine the distance to a 4.22 ly star and if you cannot then is modern astronomy a hoax? Example, the photo of the Milk way galaxy.
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