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| Started by | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| First post | 2018-09-07 09:57 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-09-28 20:20 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 617 — 34 participants |
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Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-07 09:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-07 12:54 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:40 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 15:38 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-07 21:40 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Lorent Regoire <euar@ewghwpq.gr> - 2018-09-08 11:33 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-08 14:26 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-08 12:47 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 20:06 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 22:11 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-08 20:33 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-08 14:09 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-08 23:47 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-08 14:47 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-08 21:59 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-08 18:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-09 10:20 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-09-09 11:46 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-09 12:32 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-09 13:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-09-09 14:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-10 07:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 13:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-09 13:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 21:11 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 14:33 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 12:39 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 06:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-09 20:33 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-09 14:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 03:40 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-10 07:48 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 16:06 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-10 09:43 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-10 16:45 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-10 09:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 17:50 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-10 17:46 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-10 13:29 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 10:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-11 14:05 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 06:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 09:22 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 11:06 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-12 18:09 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 14:40 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-18 22:04 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-19 09:33 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-19 17:31 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-19 12:16 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-19 13:46 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-19 21:58 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-20 07:11 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 15:20 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-19 23:36 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 16:22 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Jayson Durante <tug@wsedwsa.np> - 2018-09-20 17:40 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 07:36 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 14:35 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-12 15:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-13 08:14 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 08:36 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-13 09:24 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 10:42 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-13 09:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-13 12:55 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-13 13:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-15 11:36 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-15 12:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-15 20:43 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-15 12:54 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-15 14:36 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 08:34 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-16 16:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-16 23:06 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-17 09:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-15 12:34 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-15 12:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-15 22:52 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-15 21:03 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-15 22:58 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-16 10:10 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-15 14:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-15 21:42 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-15 23:01 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 08:22 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-16 16:23 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 07:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-15 12:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-15 23:43 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 09:28 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-16 17:08 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 10:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-15 19:03 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 06:03 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-11 19:19 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-11 15:03 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 16:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 07:24 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-12 07:50 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-12 06:18 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 08:44 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-12 09:28 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-12 09:29 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 09:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 10:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-12 10:18 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-12 18:06 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 14:16 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-12 15:03 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-15 12:22 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-15 14:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-15 21:28 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 08:13 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-15 23:54 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 09:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-12 10:48 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 10:58 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-12 18:42 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-12 23:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-11 23:41 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 12:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-11 13:24 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 12:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-11 20:10 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 14:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-11 22:28 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-11 16:25 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 22:43 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 10:15 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-10 12:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 09:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-11 13:55 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-11 13:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 12:29 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 06:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-17 13:48 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-17 20:05 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 08:15 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-08 22:43 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 12:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-12 06:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-09 11:16 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 13:56 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-09 12:01 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-09 14:19 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Lorent Regoires <ewab@ewgvpq.gn> - 2018-09-09 12:48 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-09 14:24 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-11 23:52 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-11 22:26 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-12 07:54 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-13 10:02 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-13 17:03 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-15 18:38 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-15 12:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-15 13:12 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-15 13:35 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-15 13:58 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-15 21:08 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 07:29 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-16 08:14 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 09:51 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-16 10:13 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-16 19:42 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-16 18:01 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-16 10:02 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 10:27 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-16 10:55 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 11:04 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 12:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-16 13:11 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-16 13:28 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-16 17:22 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-16 16:46 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-17 09:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-17 10:06 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-17 14:40 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-17 14:44 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-17 21:45 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-17 14:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 08:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-18 09:46 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 09:55 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-18 19:41 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-18 22:09 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-18 11:01 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-18 11:24 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 13:27 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 13:58 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-18 14:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-18 23:19 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 22:03 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-19 09:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-19 23:29 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-20 07:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-20 17:47 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 16:30 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-20 09:34 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 12:06 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-20 13:08 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 17:19 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-20 18:30 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-20 23:33 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-21 11:55 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-21 10:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 23:08 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirv.on> - 2018-09-22 08:17 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-20 19:56 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 06:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 07:23 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-21 17:21 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 11:32 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-21 23:30 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 22:05 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-21 22:39 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 22:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-21 23:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 23:13 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-21 23:20 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 23:32 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-22 07:13 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 11:06 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-22 11:11 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirwv.on> - 2018-09-22 20:39 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-21 12:09 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-21 12:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-21 13:24 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 14:41 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Rhett Joyner <udof@rsrrfirw.on> - 2018-09-21 21:51 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-22 08:29 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-22 08:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-22 18:00 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-23 10:05 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-23 10:11 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:09 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-23 14:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:06 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-23 12:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-23 13:20 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-24 02:48 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-23 22:20 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-23 14:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 23:54 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 10:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-24 13:45 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 14:04 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-24 15:48 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:09 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 16:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 00:21 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 05:29 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-25 07:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 08:06 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-25 08:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-25 18:13 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-25 09:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 10:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-25 23:27 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-25 23:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 08:01 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-26 08:22 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 12:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 14:03 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-26 21:48 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-25 20:53 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-25 12:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-25 23:33 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-26 04:47 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 08:34 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-26 10:33 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 10:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-26 13:14 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-26 22:11 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 13:34 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-27 12:01 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-27 10:04 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-27 13:34 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-27 22:20 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-27 22:49 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 11:16 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-26 18:39 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-26 18:29 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 13:40 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-27 22:53 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 07:22 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 17:19 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-28 20:06 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 13:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-28 20:10 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 14:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-28 21:34 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-28 23:34 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-28 21:50 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-29 05:25 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-29 09:06 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 10:16 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 07:39 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 11:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 13:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:45 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 21:51 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-27 08:11 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 09:22 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-27 10:01 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-27 16:52 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-27 10:03 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-27 10:23 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-27 10:34 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 10:38 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-27 18:33 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-27 14:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 14:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 04:40 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 05:42 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-28 06:12 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 07:55 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 17:32 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 13:56 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-27 21:55 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-26 15:50 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-27 12:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-27 14:39 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-28 08:48 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 09:06 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 18:01 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-28 20:35 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-28 11:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 15:47 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:47 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-25 21:42 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 09:16 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 17:33 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 13:06 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-25 20:38 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-25 21:32 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 10:22 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 10:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-25 14:18 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-25 21:23 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 15:54 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-26 22:41 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 21:44 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 08:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 17:10 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 12:47 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 21:14 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 14:41 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-22 09:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-22 19:44 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 13:11 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-21 11:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 12:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-25 04:32 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-25 00:12 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 22:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 07:28 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-25 11:52 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-25 23:25 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-25 05:36 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 07:05 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-25 18:24 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-25 20:12 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-25 19:10 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 09:19 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-26 17:37 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 13:13 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-25 19:02 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-25 07:30 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-25 15:07 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-25 12:01 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-25 08:02 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-25 12:05 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 07:14 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-26 09:54 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 10:04 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-26 10:18 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-26 12:58 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-26 15:09 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-27 08:20 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-27 09:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-27 13:16 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-27 14:41 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 06:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-28 07:42 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 08:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-28 09:05 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 09:36 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-28 09:58 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 13:30 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-28 13:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-28 23:20 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-28 14:27 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-28 15:03 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-29 08:29 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-29 09:33 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-29 10:16 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-29 10:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-29 11:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-29 11:04 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-29 13:16 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-29 13:43 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-29 14:02 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-29 14:09 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-29 17:27 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-30 04:39 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-29 21:58 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-30 03:49 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-30 05:55 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-30 06:40 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-30 08:23 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-30 10:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-30 19:30 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-30 11:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-30 12:54 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-30 13:05 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-30 13:42 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-30 21:43 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-01 08:32 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 16:12 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-01 10:01 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 17:23 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-01 18:31 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-01 13:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 16:32 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-02 02:28 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-10-01 09:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-01 10:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-10-01 10:46 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-01 13:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 13:32 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 13:53 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-01 14:09 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 14:33 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-01 14:04 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 14:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcotahr.ce> - 2018-10-01 22:23 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 16:33 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-02 03:21 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-30 15:27 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-01 08:45 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-10-01 04:10 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-30 11:18 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-30 13:12 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-30 13:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-30 14:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-30 15:30 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-10-01 09:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 17:39 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-30 20:58 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-30 20:52 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-29 20:53 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-29 14:20 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-29 21:32 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-02 17:14 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-03 07:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-03 07:28 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-10-03 07:42 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-03 08:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-10-03 08:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-10-03 09:14 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-03 09:29 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 17:13 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-03 12:15 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 12:50 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-03 19:56 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 14:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-03 21:33 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 14:54 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-04 17:34 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-04 21:41 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 20:02 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-10-03 10:22 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-03 12:50 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-10-06 07:41 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-10-06 21:50 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:38 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-03 16:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 13:13 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-01 14:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 14:30 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcotahr.ce> - 2018-10-01 22:25 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-01 22:53 -0500
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-02 13:24 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:54 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-10-02 14:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 15:24 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 13:55 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-02 14:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 14:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Burton Callanan <uuu@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-03 15:26 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-10-02 14:23 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-03 12:51 -0400
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-10-03 11:54 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-10-03 19:08 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 12:34 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-03 20:09 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 14:01 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paul Gish <uop@uwrwuao.tt> - 2018-10-04 17:38 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-10-03 17:58 -0400
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 17:50 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 14:17 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 17:13 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 13:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-27 17:13 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-27 13:45 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 03:42 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-27 21:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 11:23 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-25 00:17 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 07:11 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-25 20:14 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 18:02 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-18 18:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 03:14 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 10:39 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-17 10:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-17 10:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-17 10:49 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 18:35 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-17 15:39 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 23:28 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-18 07:13 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 14:30 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-17 18:02 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-09-16 22:09 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-09-16 22:15 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 13:52 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-16 17:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-17 10:03 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-17 10:11 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-17 10:21 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-17 10:24 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-09-17 10:39 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-17 14:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-17 15:03 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-17 22:16 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-17 15:38 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-18 22:10 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-18 16:20 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 17:27 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-09-17 08:22 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-16 23:58 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-17 14:01 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-17 14:45 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 22:13 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-17 17:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 08:43 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-18 09:39 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 09:51 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-18 10:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 13:23 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-18 13:36 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-09-18 22:42 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 21:55 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-19 09:14 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-19 23:17 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-20 07:28 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-20 19:36 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-21 11:26 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 12:46 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-09-18 22:38 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 14:23 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 22:12 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-19 09:45 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-19 23:33 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-20 07:59 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-20 08:34 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 12:11 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 14:55 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-21 09:48 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-20 20:03 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-20 20:44 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-20 13:44 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-20 23:23 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaws.np> - 2018-09-21 09:29 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-21 06:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-21 07:28 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-21 10:54 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-09-19 15:05 +0200
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 07:04 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-09-19 07:46 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 09:42 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-19 09:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-17 16:35 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-17 14:31 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-17 21:40 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 08:18 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-18 22:15 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-19 09:47 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-19 22:09 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 15:37 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 09:12 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 17:26 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 13:16 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-18 21:47 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-09-19 03:15 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 17:57 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 02:40 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-15 23:34 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Stakos Netakis <autp@wsalaw.oa> - 2018-09-16 10:09 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-16 09:04 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 06:19 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-17 14:10 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-17 15:23 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-18 09:01 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 11:58 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-18 12:33 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-09-20 01:09 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-27 10:00 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-27 23:03 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-28 07:29 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-09-28 17:22 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-29 09:12 +0000
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-28 10:33 -0700
Re: Time Dilation as I understand it Hilton Packett <wod@wcothr.ce> - 2018-09-28 20:20 +0000
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 09:57 -0700 |
| Subject | Time Dilation as I understand it |
| Message-ID | <e8e8c6c9-5eaa-4c6d-a5ef-796a2998cafc@googlegroups.com> |
Lately a lot of people seem to be visiting my web page on "Time Dilation -- As I understand it." Here's the link: http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation.html I created the page back on March 23, 2014, after some arguments on Facebook. I probably haven't looked at it in a couple years. Today I read it. It explains time dilation in a way that might be of interest to people here. It explains the so-called "twin paradox" in a VERY different way, by having both twins measure time by using a PULSAR in addition to the clocks they have with them. That seems to clarify everything about time dilation. I'd be interested in any thoughts anyone might have about the page. Ed
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 12:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <988ed8fc-8de2-4444-bbd8-b19c3f9fcc06@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470837 |
On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 11:57:31 AM UTC-5, Ed Lake wrote:
> Lately a lot of people seem to be visiting my web page on "Time Dilation -- As I understand it." Here's the link: http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation.html
If you are afraid of clicking on links, here is some material from near the beginning of the web page:
----- start quote ---
First, it is very important to understand that, in this discussion, Time Dilation has only to do with the movement of a person or object relative to the speed of light or relative to a stationary object. It has absolutely nothing to do with the movement of one person or object relative to the movement of a different person or object (i.e., Special Relativistic Time Dilation).
Second, instead of two people using different clocks that the other person cannot possibly see, let's use a single natural clock - a pulsar. There's some dispute over how close we are to the nearest pulsar, but whether it is 400 light years away or 280 light years away, the key point is that it is very far away and it can literally be seen from astronomical distances. We just need to pick one that pulses at an easy-to-use rate -- say one pulse every 10 seconds. Using such a "clock,"
1 pulse every 10 seconds = 6 pulses per minute.
6 pulses per minute = 360 pulses per hour, or
8,640 pulses per day, or
3,153,600 pulses per year, or
31,536,000 pulses in TEN years, or
31,553,280 pulses when you include 2 leap year days.
Next, let's assume that, on January 1, 2500, a pair of astronomers who also happen to be 25-year-old twins, decide to perform two slightly different Time Dilation experiments. The two astronomer's names are Homebody Jones and Traveler Jones.
The first experiment will involve Traveler Jones and his wife taking a space ship on a journey to Alpa Centauri. Alpha Centauri is 4.3 light years away from Earth, and it is one of the nearest stars to our Solar System. Homebody Jones will wait back home on Earth.
Since there is no way for either party to see what is happening with the other party via some magical TV signal, Time Dilation will be measured by counting pulses from that distant pulsar. On Earth, Homebody Jones can observe the pulsar's pulses occurring at the rate of 1 pulse every 10 seconds as described above.
----- end quote ---
---- start another quote ---
On the voyage home, Mrs. Traveler Jones has a baby boy right on schedule, at the end of a nine month gestation period as measured by her "body clock" and by the various kinds of clocks aboard the space ship.
Then, on January 1, 2501, according to the clocks aboard the space ship, they arrive back on Earth. Traveler is now 26 years old and his son is 2 months old.
They meet Homebody Jones and find that on Earth it is January 1, 2510. From Traveler's point of view, he and his wife traveled forward in time nine years. Or, to put it another way, time outside of their space ship went faster. Only one year passed for them while, from Homebody's point of view, Traveler and wife were gone for ten years. During that time, Homebody aged 10 years. He is now 35 years old -- nine years older than his twin brother.
They compare the results of counting pulses from the pulsar, and both counts are exactly the same. From Traveler Jones's point of view:
1 pulse (on average) every second = 60 pulses per minute.
60 pulses per minute = 3,600 pulses per hour, or
86,400 pulses per day for 365 days, plus
17,280 pulses to compensate for 2 leap year days equals
31,553,280 pulses counted during the ONE year trip.
There were 31,553,280 pulses measured by both devices during the experiment. From his perspective, it took Traveler just 1 year to record that number of pulses. From Homebody's point of view, it took 10 years to record the same number of pulses. Neither twin counted more pulses than the other. And that means,
No one was ever ahead of or behind the other in time.
---- end quote ---
You'll have to read the page to get the rest, which includes a second experiment where Homebody Jones repeats the experiment, but instead of traveling at right angles to the pulsar, he travels toward the pulsar and then back, so pulses from the pulsar arrive at twice their normal rate when he is going toward the pulsar, and half the normal rate when he is returning home.
There is a lot of other good stuff on the page, too. I should be good material to discuss.
Ed
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| From | Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 23:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pmur92$11pp$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #470870 |
Op 07-sep-2018 om 21:54 schreef Ed Lake: > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 11:57:31 AM UTC-5, Ed Lake wrote: >> Lately a lot of people seem to be visiting my web page on "Time >> Dilation -- As I understand it." Here's the link: >> http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation.html > > If you are afraid of clicking on links, here is some material from > near the beginning of the web page: > > ----- start quote --- > > First, it is very important to understand that, in this discussion, > Time Dilation has only to do with the movement of a person or object > relative to the speed of light HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Some juicy suckers are on their way to entertain you. Just be patient. Dirk Vdm
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 15:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0397c70e-a2df-453f-8de0-c87c447e32f5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470892 |
On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:40:55 PM UTC-7, Dirk Van de moortel wrote: > Op 07-sep-2018 om 21:54 schreef Ed Lake: > > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 11:57:31 AM UTC-5, Ed Lake wrote: > >> Lately a lot of people seem to be visiting my web page on "Time > >> Dilation -- As I understand it." Here's the link: > >> http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation.html > > > > If you are afraid of clicking on links, here is some material from > > near the beginning of the web page: > > > > ----- start quote --- > > > > First, it is very important to understand that, in this discussion, > > Time Dilation has only to do with the movement of a person or object > > relative to the speed of light > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! > > Some juicy suckers are on their way to entertain you. > Just be patient. > > Dirk Vdm Gravity and motion are what can happen to light and matter's time rate.
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| From | mlwozniak@wp.pl |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 21:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <82aa60f0-2126-4c80-b154-dade822862a8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470892 |
On Friday, 7 September 2018 23:40:55 UTC+2, Dirk Van de moortel wrote: > Op 07-sep-2018 om 21:54 schreef Ed Lake: > > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 11:57:31 AM UTC-5, Ed Lake wrote: > >> Lately a lot of people seem to be visiting my web page on "Time > >> Dilation -- As I understand it." Here's the link: > >> http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation.html > > > > If you are afraid of clicking on links, here is some material from > > near the beginning of the web page: > > > > ----- start quote --- > > > > First, it is very important to understand that, in this discussion, > > Time Dilation has only to do with the movement of a person or object > > relative to the speed of light > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Time dilation has only to do with some idiots convinced that desynchronizing clocks are perfect ones.
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| From | Lorent Regoire <euar@ewghwpq.gr> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 11:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pn0c2o$15ko$7@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #470892 |
Dirk Van de moortel wrote: > Op 07-sep-2018 om 21:54 schreef Ed Lake: >> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 11:57:31 AM UTC-5, Ed Lake wrote: >>> Lately a lot of people seem to be visiting my web page on "Time >>> Dilation -- As I understand it." Here's the link: >>> http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation.html >> If you are afraid of clicking on links, here is some material from near >> the beginning of the web page: This constitutes the proof that you are monitoring that homepage. >> First, it is very important to understand that, in this discussion, >> Time Dilation has only to do with the movement of a person or object >> relative to the speed of light You can't move relative to a speed, but a reference. > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Infact, Dr. Poincare said it clearly, applicable generally, through his set of equations. Einstein however, what he wrote was only about wires ans magnets. A totally misunderstanding of the domain of applicability. And there are his papers to prove it.
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 14:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <AoydnUVaDKbJvwnGnZ2dnUU7_81j4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #470837 |
On 9/7/18 11:57 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > [...] You DON'T understand it. You just fantasize that you do. Tom Roberts
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 12:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0ea2198d-d124-4d14-a8b1-fd4e89f62075@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471022 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:26:18 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > On 9/7/18 11:57 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > > [...] > > You DON'T understand it. You just fantasize that you do. > > Tom Roberts On the other hand, YOU DON'T understand it, you just DECLARE that you do. If I'm wrong, I'm looking for someone to explain WHERE I am wrong. Instead, they DECLARE that I must read the books they read, attend the classes they attend, and then I will believe as they believe. Ed
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 20:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pn1a3l$q0t$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #471027 |
Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> wrote: > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:26:18 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: >> On 9/7/18 11:57 AM, Ed Lake wrote: >>> [...] >> >> You DON'T understand it. You just fantasize that you do. >> >> Tom Roberts > > On the other hand, YOU DON'T understand it, you just DECLARE that you do. > > If I'm wrong, I'm looking for someone to explain WHERE I am wrong. > Instead, they DECLARE that I must read the books they read, attend the > classes they attend, and then I will believe as they believe. > > Ed > No Ed, you just want someone to TRY to explain where you are wrong, because you crave the social interaction of confrontational discussion. You have no interest in really learning where you are wrong, and least of all from someone else. At best, you wish to be corrected only by yourself from whatever “analysis” you do on your own. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 22:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <46e06300-8cf8-891e-d432-ef7560f384ff@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #471027 |
Ed Lake wrote: > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:26:18 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: >> On 9/7/18 11:57 AM, Ed Lake wrote: >>> [...] >> You DON'T understand it. You just fantasize that you do. > > On the other hand, YOU DON'T understand it, you just DECLARE that you do. He has STUDIED this stuff, long and hard. It is his LIFE’s WORK. Whereas you are making stuff up as you go. > If I'm wrong, I'm looking for someone to explain WHERE I am wrong. It has been explained to you /ad nauseam/ HOW and WHERE you are wrong. But your MO is to ignore the criticism, ignore the advice that would help you to see your mistake, and (IIRC) killfile those that offer it And then to repeat the same nonsense all over again, for some reason hoping that nobody would remember the previous times. > Instead, they DECLARE that I must read the books they read, Yes, you need to STUDY a subject before being able to make INFORMED statements about it. > attend the classes they attend, Not necessarily. But you need to make the effort to LEARN. > and then I will believe as they believe. This is not about belief, it is about KNOWLEDGE. YOU DO NOT KNOW. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 20:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pn1bm8$bvg$3@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #471027 |
Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> writes: >On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:26:18 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: >> On 9/7/18 11:57 AM, Ed Lake wrote: >> > [...] >> >> You DON'T understand it. You just fantasize that you do. >> >> Tom Roberts >On the other hand, YOU DON'T understand it, you just DECLARE that you do. Umm, it is Tom's JOB to understand it. He is one of the few scientists who actually bother posting here. >If I'm wrong, I'm looking for someone to explain WHERE I am wrong. People have been doing that for a long time, Ed. You just don't listen to them. >Instead, they DECLARE that I must read the books they read, attend the >classes they attend, and then I will believe as they believe. That's how to learn, Ed. Studying science. Pulling crap out of your ass and posting it here isn't doing science. (No matter how many posters here do just that!)
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 14:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3bd8db69-3a15-4f97-b823-5ca3703528f2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471056 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 3:33:14 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: > Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> writes: > > >On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:26:18 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > >> On 9/7/18 11:57 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > >> > [...] > >> > >> You DON'T understand it. You just fantasize that you do. > >> > >> Tom Roberts > > >On the other hand, YOU DON'T understand it, you just DECLARE that you do. > > Umm, it is Tom's JOB to understand it. He is one of the few scientists > who actually bother posting here. But what Tom says disagrees with the experts and the experiments. He says the NIST is LYING to people when they say that clocks speed up when a clock is raised. He implies that all the scientists behind all the time dilation experiments are either incompetent or lying, because Tom BELIEVES that clocks tick at the same rate at all altitudes and speeds, there are just some kind of magical signals that cause those scientists to misunderstand what is happening. > > >If I'm wrong, I'm looking for someone to explain WHERE I am wrong. > > People have been doing that for a long time, Ed. You just don't listen > to them. Can you provide an example? All I see is people stating opinions, telling me I'm wrong, plus Tom telling me that all the scientists who agree with me are lying or incompetent. > > >Instead, they DECLARE that I must read the books they read, attend the > >classes they attend, and then I will believe as they believe. > > That's how to learn, Ed. Studying science. Pulling crap out of your ass > and posting it here isn't doing science. (No matter how many posters here > do just that!) No, that is NOT how you learn. That is how you are INDOCTRINATED. Questioning authority when the authority makes no sense is how you learn. If the authorities then tell you that physics does not have to make sense, that means they are peddling bullshit. It is the same as saying you MUST BELIEVE what they say, whether it makes sense or not. What I wrote in "Time Dilation -- as I understand it" makes PERFECT SENSE. But no one here will even discuss it. Tom Roberts just makes a personal attack. The same with the people on my "Do Not Reply" list. When all people can do is launch personal attacks, that tells me that their minds are closed and I am telling them things they do not want to hear. Ed
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 23:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <a0401089-2017-e384-c13f-0954d6d57fb9@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #471066 |
Ed Lake wrote: > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 3:33:14 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: >> Umm, it is Tom's JOB to understand it. He is one of the few scientists >> who actually bother posting here. > > But what Tom says disagrees with the experts and the experiments. No, it does not. > [Delusions] Take your pills. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 14:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <81138f5b-d120-4fd9-8f53-b499057c25b1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471066 |
This one is Definitely "Laughed Out" & has Jumped the Shark .... On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 4:09:31 PM UTC-5, Ed Lake wrote: > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 3:33:14 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: > > Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> writes: > > > > >On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:26:18 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > >> On 9/7/18 11:57 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > > >> > [...] > > >> > > >> You DON'T understand it. You just fantasize that you do. > > >> > > >> Tom Roberts > > > > >On the other hand, YOU DON'T understand it, you just DECLARE that you do. > > > > Umm, it is Tom's JOB to understand it. He is one of the few scientists > > who actually bother posting here. > > But what Tom says disagrees with the experts and the experiments. He says the NIST is LYING to people when they say that clocks speed up when a clock is raised. He implies that all the scientists behind all the time dilation experiments are either incompetent or lying, because Tom BELIEVES that clocks tick at the same rate at all altitudes and speeds, there are just some kind of magical signals that cause those scientists to misunderstand what is happening. > > > > > >If I'm wrong, I'm looking for someone to explain WHERE I am wrong. > > > > People have been doing that for a long time, Ed. You just don't listen > > to them. > > Can you provide an example? All I see is people stating opinions, telling me I'm wrong, plus Tom telling me that all the scientists who agree with me are lying or incompetent. > > > > > >Instead, they DECLARE that I must read the books they read, attend the > > >classes they attend, and then I will believe as they believe. > > > > That's how to learn, Ed. Studying science. Pulling crap out of your ass > > and posting it here isn't doing science. (No matter how many posters here > > do just that!) > > No, that is NOT how you learn. That is how you are INDOCTRINATED. Questioning authority when the authority makes no sense is how you learn. If the authorities then tell you that physics does not have to make sense, that means they are peddling bullshit. It is the same as saying you MUST BELIEVE what they say, whether it makes sense or not. > > What I wrote in "Time Dilation -- as I understand it" makes PERFECT SENSE. But no one here will even discuss it. Tom Roberts just makes a personal attack. The same with the people on my "Do Not Reply" list. > > When all people can do is launch personal attacks, that tells me that their minds are closed and I am telling them things they do not want to hear. > > Ed
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 21:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pn1gnl$l42$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #471066 |
Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> writes: >On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 3:33:14 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: >> Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> writes: >> >On the other hand, YOU DON'T understand it, you just DECLARE that you do. >> Umm, it is Tom's JOB to understand it. He is one of the few scientists >> who actually bother posting here. >But what Tom says disagrees with the experts and the experiments. No, what Tom says disagrees with YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING of the experts and the experiments. The subject of this string is "Time Dilation as I understand it" but if you were serious about the "as I understand it" part, you'd be wanting to LEARN from people who really know the stuff, not telling them they are wrong. > He says the NIST is LYING to people when they say that clocks speed up >when a clock is raised. No, he is saying that clocks do not speed up or slow down as observed locally. There IS a difference between two (non-local) clocks because of either SR or GR effects, or both. For example, for those clocks on two different levels (in a gravitational field), a person with one of the clocks will see it keeping perfect time. If he had a bunch of (local) clocks that were all ideal, for example, cesium clocks, rubidium clocks, aluminum clocks, the would all tick at 1 second per second. Now at the OTHER clock let's say there are also a bunch of (local) clocks. Someone local to THEM would also say they keep perfect time, 1 second per second. However, each would see the OTHER's clocks (non-local) as keeping different time. > He implies that all the scientists behind all the time dilation >experiments are either incompetent or lying, because Tom BELIEVES that >clocks tick at the same rate at all altitudes and speeds, there are just >some kind of magical signals that cause those scientists to misunderstand what is happening. No, as I stated, you misunderstand what Tom (and scientists) believe. >> >If I'm wrong, I'm looking for someone to explain WHERE I am wrong. >> People have been doing that for a long time, Ed. You just don't listen >> to them. >Can you provide an example? Just use Google Groups, find your posts and read the replies! > All I see is people stating opinions, What Tom states about clocks is not an opinion. >telling me I'm wrong, plus Tom telling me that all the scientists who >agree with me are lying or incompetent. What scientists agree with you? >> >Instead, they DECLARE that I must read the books they read, attend the >> >classes they attend, and then I will believe as they believe. >> That's how to learn, Ed. Studying science. Pulling crap out of your ass >> and posting it here isn't doing science. (No matter how many posters here >> do just that!) >No, that is NOT how you learn. That is how you are INDOCTRINATED. Wrong. That is how you LEARN. If you were studying politics in North Korea, yes that's going to get you indoctrinated. But there are many, many excellent universities in the US, Europe and elsewhere who will help you learn science, plus teach you how to learn on your own, plus stuff like the scientific method which will tell you how if experiment doesn't agree with your beliefs, it is the beliefs which are wrong, not the facts of the experiment. >Questioning authority when the authority makes no sense is how you >learn. If the "authority" (meaning expert?) in science makes no sense, either the expert is out of his field, or (more likely) you don't undestand the science involved. > If the authorities then tell you that physics does not have to make >sense, that means they are peddling bullshit. No, it most likely means there is some concept you just simply don't get. Like the clock rate concept you brought up. You don't understand it. >It is the same as saying you MUST BELIEVE what they say, whether it makes >sense or not. This sounds like the paranoid "'They' are out to 'get' me, in this case by indoctrinating me with false science." If you really believe that, I suggest talking to a mental health professional. >What I wrote in "Time Dilation -- as I understand it" makes PERFECT SENSE. Maybe to you, but not to scientists. > But no one here will even discuss it. Tom Roberts just makes a personal >attack. The same with the people on my "Do Not Reply" list. >When all people can do is launch personal attacks, that tells me that their >minds are closed and I am telling them things they do not want to hear. Or it means they got frustrated when trying to show you your mistakes, and take out their frustration in attacking you. (or what you consider attacks are not attacks at all).
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| From | kenseto <setoken@att.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 18:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8497ae99-dffa-4d3f-a714-af75323fd9d3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471077 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 5:59:19 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote: > Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> writes: > > >On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 3:33:14 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: > >> Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> writes: > > >> >On the other hand, YOU DON'T understand it, you just DECLARE that you do. > > >> Umm, it is Tom's JOB to understand it. He is one of the few scientists > >> who actually bother posting here. > > >But what Tom says disagrees with the experts and the experiments. > > No, what Tom says disagrees with YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING of the experts and > the experiments. > > The subject of this string is "Time Dilation as I understand it" but if > you were serious about the "as I understand it" part, you'd be wanting to > LEARN from people who really know the stuff, not telling them they are > wrong. > > > He says the NIST is LYING to people when they say that clocks speed up > >when a clock is raised. > > No, he is saying that clocks do not speed up or slow down as observed > locally. This is an oxymoron statement. Of course local clocks do not speed up or low down when compared to each other. >There IS a difference between two (non-local) clocks because of > either SR or GR effects, or both. So SR or GR effects or both cause two non-local clocks to accumulate clock seconds at different rates....right? >For example, for those clocks on two > different levels (in a gravitational field), a person with one of the > clocks will see it keeping perfect time. You mean that each has the same definition for a clock second but doesn’t mean that each clock is keeping perfect time. It means that a clock second at different height contain a different amount of time (duration). >If he had a bunch of (local) > clocks that were all ideal, for example, cesium clocks, rubidium clocks, > aluminum clocks, the would all tick at 1 second per second. Now at the > OTHER clock let's say there are also a bunch of (local) clocks. Someone > local to THEM would also say they keep perfect time, 1 second per second. > However, each would see the OTHER's clocks (non-local) as keeping > different time. > > > He implies that all the scientists behind all the time dilation > >experiments are either incompetent or lying, because Tom BELIEVES that > >clocks tick at the same rate at all altitudes and speeds, there are just > >some kind of magical signals that cause those scientists to misunderstand > what is happening. > > No, as I stated, you misunderstand what Tom (and scientists) believe. > > > >> >If I'm wrong, I'm looking for someone to explain WHERE I am wrong. > > >> People have been doing that for a long time, Ed. You just don't listen > >> to them. > > >Can you provide an example? > > Just use Google Groups, find your posts and read the replies! > > > All I see is people stating opinions, > > What Tom states about clocks is not an opinion. > > >telling me I'm wrong, plus Tom telling me that all the scientists who > >agree with me are lying or incompetent. > > What scientists agree with you? > > >> >Instead, they DECLARE that I must read the books they read, attend the > >> >classes they attend, and then I will believe as they believe. > > >> That's how to learn, Ed. Studying science. Pulling crap out of your ass > >> and posting it here isn't doing science. (No matter how many posters here > >> do just that!) > > >No, that is NOT how you learn. That is how you are INDOCTRINATED. > > Wrong. That is how you LEARN. If you were studying politics in North Korea, > yes that's going to get you indoctrinated. But there are many, many > excellent universities in the US, Europe and elsewhere who will help you > learn science, plus teach you how to learn on your own, plus stuff like > the scientific method which will tell you how if experiment doesn't agree > with your beliefs, it is the beliefs which are wrong, not the facts of the > experiment. > > >Questioning authority when the authority makes no sense is how you > >learn. > > If the "authority" (meaning expert?) in science makes no sense, either > the expert is out of his field, or (more likely) you don't undestand the > science involved. > > > If the authorities then tell you that physics does not have to make > >sense, that means they are peddling bullshit. > > No, it most likely means there is some concept you just simply don't get. > Like the clock rate concept you brought up. You don't understand it. > > >It is the same as saying you MUST BELIEVE what they say, whether it makes > >sense or not. > > This sounds like the paranoid "'They' are out to 'get' me, in this case > by indoctrinating me with false science." If you really believe that, > I suggest talking to a mental health professional. > > >What I wrote in "Time Dilation -- as I understand it" makes PERFECT SENSE. > > Maybe to you, but not to scientists. > > > But no one here will even discuss it. Tom Roberts just makes a personal > >attack. The same with the people on my "Do Not Reply" list. > > >When all people can do is launch personal attacks, that tells me that their > >minds are closed and I am telling them things they do not want to hear. > > Or it means they got frustrated when trying to show you your mistakes, and > take out their frustration in attacking you. (or what you consider attacks > are not attacks at all).
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 10:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <728fbe18-d063-4819-b55d-c864de965e23@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471077 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 4:59:19 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: > Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> writes: > > >On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 3:33:14 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: > >> Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> writes: > > >> >On the other hand, YOU DON'T understand it, you just DECLARE that you do. > > >> Umm, it is Tom's JOB to understand it. He is one of the few scientists > >> who actually bother posting here. > > >But what Tom says disagrees with the experts and the experiments. > > No, what Tom says disagrees with YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING of the experts and > the experiments. > > The subject of this string is "Time Dilation as I understand it" but if > you were serious about the "as I understand it" part, you'd be wanting to > LEARN from people who really know the stuff, not telling them they are > wrong. You do not "learn" by BELIEVING what others say. If what they say makes no sense and they cannot explain their beliefs, then there is no reason to accept what they say. The objective is to learn, not to accept what others say. > > > He says the NIST is LYING to people when they say that clocks speed up > >when a clock is raised. > > No, he is saying that clocks do not speed up or slow down as observed > locally. There IS a difference between two (non-local) clocks because of > either SR or GR effects, or both. For example, for those clocks on two > different levels (in a gravitational field), a person with one of the > clocks will see it keeping perfect time. If he had a bunch of (local) > clocks that were all ideal, for example, cesium clocks, rubidium clocks, > aluminum clocks, the would all tick at 1 second per second. Now at the > OTHER clock let's say there are also a bunch of (local) clocks. Someone > local to THEM would also say they keep perfect time, 1 second per second. > However, each would see the OTHER's clocks (non-local) as keeping > different time. You need to pay attention to what Tom is saying. He says that clocks do NOT tick at different rates at different altitudes. He says some kind of magical "signals" just make it appear that way. > > All I see is people stating opinions, > > What Tom states about clocks is not an opinion. What is it? Gospel? > > >telling me I'm wrong, plus Tom telling me that all the scientists who > >agree with me are lying or incompetent. > > What scientists agree with you? All the scientists who say that clocks tick at different rates at different altitudes and velocities are saying the same thing I'm saying. > >Questioning authority when the authority makes no sense is how you > >learn. > > If the "authority" (meaning expert?) in science makes no sense, either > the expert is out of his field, or (more likely) you don't undestand the > science involved. So, an authority in his field cannot be wrong?????!!! That would mean that two authorities in the same field can never disagree! On what planet is that true? Not on this planet. > > > If the authorities then tell you that physics does not have to make > >sense, that means they are peddling bullshit. > > No, it most likely means there is some concept you just simply don't get. > Like the clock rate concept you brought up. You don't understand it. I repeat: If the authorities tell you that physics does not have to make sense, that means they are peddling bullshit. You cannot understand something UNLESS it makes sense. If you ACCEPT it even though it makes no sense, you simply BELIEVE it to be true, you do not UNDERSTAND it. > >What I wrote in "Time Dilation -- as I understand it" makes PERFECT SENSE. > > Maybe to you, but not to scientists. If it doesn't make sense, why can't anyone here EXPLAIN what about it doesn't make sense? Why can they only say it is "wrong" or claim I do not understand physics? > > > But no one here will even discuss it. Tom Roberts just makes a personal > >attack. The same with the people on my "Do Not Reply" list. > > >When all people can do is launch personal attacks, that tells me that their > >minds are closed and I am telling them things they do not want to hear. > > Or it means they got frustrated when trying to show you your mistakes, and > take out their frustration in attacking you. (or what you consider attacks > are not attacks at all). Calling me a "cretin" (in many other threads) is not an attack???? Stating, "You DON'T understand it. You just fantasize that you do." is not an attack? Those two sentences are attacks on ME. They are PERSONAL OPINIONS about my ability to learn and understand. They say NOTHING about the web page or what is explained in the web page. If you and I are measuring time using a pulsar as I travel at high speed from Earth to Alpha Centauri, will it require the same number of pulses of the pulsar for me to boil a 3-minute egg as it does for you back on Earth? Ed
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 11:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B956A90.34F1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #471141 |
Time Dilation is not steady... in other words, time dilales every so often..not every second. So, ...if you're perfoming an experiment...like with clocks... you have to wait...for...Time...to....dilate. If Time is not dilating while perfoming a Time Dilation experiment... nothing happens. So, your Time Dilation experiments are wrong.. if you're not taking into account Time Dilation not...dilating. But yous people fail to understand this... I'm astounded.
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 12:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0d33fec2-d4d6-49d6-bb34-508cecedf971@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471155 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 1:46:42 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > Time Dilation is not steady... > > in other words, time dilales every so often..not every second. > > So, ...if you're perfoming an experiment...like with clocks... > > you have to wait...for...Time...to....dilate. > > > If Time is not dilating > while > perfoming a > Time Dilation > experiment... > nothing happens. > > So, your > Time Dilation > experiments > are wrong.. > if you're not taking > into account > Time Dilation > not...dilating. > > > But yous people fail to understand this... > > I'm astounded. I think you have a belief about Time Dilation that is different from the understandings held by everyone else in the world. If you have an atomic clock atop a mountain and another at the bottom of the mountain, the clock at the top of the mountain will ALWAYS tick just a bit faster than the one at the bottom. Or as the NIST stated it, "For example, if two identical clocks are separated vertically by 1 km near the surface of Earth, the higher clock emits about three more second-ticks than the lower one in a million years." https://ws680.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=905055 In other words, after a million years have passed, the higher clock will show that 3 more seconds have passed than the lower clock will show. There is no waiting involved. Ed
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| From | "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 13:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <279a39a1-3147-4c99-b4ea-e170ecee7d27@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471166 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 12:32:51 PM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote: > If you have an atomic clock atop a mountain and another at the bottom of the mountain, the clock at the top of the mountain will ALWAYS tick just a bit faster than the one at the bottom. > Imbecile The correct statement is: "If you have an atomic clock atop a mountain and another at the bottom of the mountain, FOR AND OBSERVER AT THE BOTTOM OF THE MOUNTAIN the clock at the top of the mountain will tick faster than the one NEXT TO HIM. FOR AND OBSERVER AT THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN the clock at the bottom of the mountain will tick slower than the one NEXT TO HIM." Do you understand the difference between your cretinoid statement and the complete one?
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