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| Started by | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-08-24 11:09 +0100 |
| Last post | 2018-09-06 15:15 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 120 — 23 participants |
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How Big is s PHOTON ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 11:09 +0100
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 09:36 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:16 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 10:36 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-24 09:55 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:20 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? paulcardinale0@gmail.com - 2018-08-24 12:13 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 12:27 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-24 12:48 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-24 13:12 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 13:18 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 13:28 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-24 14:14 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-24 18:55 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:23 +0100
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 15:38 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-26 23:12 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-26 21:17 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Eters Beckenbauer <lrrif@dnewrersd.ne> - 2018-08-25 17:08 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-08-26 11:31 +1000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-25 21:12 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-27 10:59 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 16:40 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 09:41 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 10:17 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 10:41 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 11:30 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-26 23:14 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Eters Beckenbauer <lrrif@dnewrersd.ne> - 2018-08-27 11:09 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-27 17:32 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-27 22:44 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 15:50 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 00:03 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 09:30 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 16:52 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 11:12 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 19:13 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-28 22:05 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 19:22 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Brandi Hofmann <ohifu@awdwf.nr> - 2018-08-28 11:01 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-09-14 17:11 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-14 17:45 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Wilbur Foley <boue@eywffl.uf> - 2018-09-15 09:23 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-25 10:32 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 11:15 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-25 13:12 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 14:07 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-25 14:45 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-25 17:20 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 19:04 +0100
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-30 07:55 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 16:49 +0100
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Fattore Nzavecchia <avcir@valecw.ba> - 2018-08-31 16:38 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-31 12:17 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Fattore Nzavecchia <avcir@valecw.ba> - 2018-08-31 18:22 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-25 14:11 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 14:29 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? alsor@interia.pl - 2018-08-25 14:52 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Eters Beckenbauer <lrrif@dnewrersd.ne> - 2018-08-26 10:19 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 16:32 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 13:28 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 22:03 +0100
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 00:03 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 15:08 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 15:23 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 00:28 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 16:41 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 17:45 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 21:32 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 18:25 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 11:19 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 20:30 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 14:18 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-30 03:59 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-30 10:14 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-30 13:25 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 15:19 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 04:24 +0100
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 20:34 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 08:51 +0100
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 18:51 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 18:50 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 12:36 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 22:02 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 13:38 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 14:18 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 15:38 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-30 04:04 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 14:28 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-30 03:46 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 19:30 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-30 04:43 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 20:08 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-30 16:26 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-30 15:27 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-30 16:26 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-31 01:31 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-31 10:46 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-01 14:07 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-01 14:14 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-01 23:52 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-02 14:30 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:37 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Jeanclaude Erald <urdu@iuoienv.vu> - 2018-09-02 14:22 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-04 10:00 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-04 15:13 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 17:50 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-04 09:59 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-04 15:15 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-09-04 23:16 +0200
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Haných Ltskáš <lnni@yawlucla.ha> - 2018-09-04 23:03 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-09-04 21:22 -0500
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 20:20 +0100
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 15:59 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-09-01 08:54 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 16:09 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Jeanclaude Erald <urdu@iufienv.vu> - 2018-09-01 17:45 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? Jeanclaude Erald <urdu@iufienv.vu> - 2018-09-01 17:44 +0000
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-09-02 15:16 -0700
Re: How Big is s PHOTON ? consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-09-06 15:15 -0700
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| From | consequently7990662@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-28 13:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3ee44b34-1b18-4fa8-898c-a72ba9fe2176@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #468982 |
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:09:33 AM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote: > The mass m of a body is equivalent to its rest energy E₀ = E(p = 0): E₀ = m c² > e=Mc^2 If E represents the energy of a photon than m and M are massless.
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-28 22:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <9MihD.139466$2v.127760@fx19.am4> |
| In reply to | #469569 |
On 28/08/2018 21:28, consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:09:33 AM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote:
>>
>
> The mass m of a body is equivalent to its rest energy E₀ = E(p = 0):
>
> E₀ = m c²
>
>> e=Mc^2
>
>
> If E represents the energy of a photon than m and M are massless.
Not quite sure what it is that i am being credited with,
but whatever, i never wrote one word (or equation of that
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What I wrote was:
On 28/08/2018 19:04, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 25/08/2018 00:55, Tom Roberts wrote:
>> The question makes no sense, because a photon has no "size".
>>
>> Some people claim that a photon has a "length related to its
wavelength"
>
> Indeed i think i would have placed myself in those "people",
> Mr.Roberts. Certainly i would have assumed that a
> "radio frequency photon" WAS longer than an "X-ray photon",
> if you hadn't put me right eh!
>
> this is wrong because photons have no length (or wavelength or
>> frequency or energy). The only intrinsic properties a photon possesses
>> are is its mass (zero) and its spin (1 in units of h-bar, parallel or
>> anti-parallel to its momentum).
>
> I think i see what you mean. A photon does not have an "intrinsic"
> wavelength, because the wavelength depends upon the velocity of the
> observer. Even the longest radio wave must appear as an X ray
> to an observer approaching it at sufficient speed eh!
>
> ( While this is true in both Special relativity and
> Classical Physics, i note that in the former case the
> "sufficient speed" would very nearly, but not quite, "c",
> while in classical physics the "sufficient speed" to change
> radio frequencies to X-ray frequencies would be very many
> times "c" ).
> o
>> In many/most cases a beam of many photons has properties such as width,
>
> I struggle with the width of even a "single photon", Mr.Roberts,
> even if we limit the discussion to photons in the visible spectrum.
> Sometimes they need to have a width at least as big as a large
> diffraction grating, but they always seem to be small enough to
> fit through just one of the slits, and ultimately small enough
> to land on a single atom or molecule eh!
>
>> height, length, MEAN energy, MEAN waveleongth, etc. But these
>> characterize the source of the beam, not the individual photons.
>>
>> Photons are quantum objects, and are VERY different from the ordinary
>> objects of our everyday lives.
>
> Yes indeed Mr.Roberts, "very different", and i do understand why you
> wouldn't want to put a size to them eh!
>
>
> keith stein
>
>>
>> Tom Roberts
>
keith stein
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 00:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <63b03d7d-99f0-9f71-987c-e701b1c4c0d6@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #469569 |
consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:09:33 AM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote:
>
> The mass m of a body is equivalent to its rest energy E₀ = E(p = 0):
^^^^
> E₀ = m c²
Keth Stein did not write this, you did not write this; *I* did.
LEARN TO QUOTE!
>> e=Mc^2
>
>
> If E represents the energy of a photon than m and M are massless.
No. Learn to read.
--
PointedEars
Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-28 15:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B85C7EE.443C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #469569 |
consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:09:33 AM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote: > > > > The mass m of a body is equivalent to its rest energy E₀ = E(p = 0): > > E₀ = m c² > > > e=Mc^2 > > If E represents the energy of a photon than m and M are massless. but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass. E equals L in Einstein't mind...and L stands for Radiation. I mean, the big bang itself stands for energy creating mass...otherwise you would not be here.
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| From | consequently7990662@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-28 15:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <50562c06-86fc-43df-a361-ca8d24f1c573@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #469596 |
"but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass." Does everyone argree with this statement?
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 00:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <bc8c06a7-31b6-525c-990f-e58823f7c0e1@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #469598 |
consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > "but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass." > > Does everyone argree with this statement? No. It is “not even wrong”. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-28 16:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B85DDA1.68A1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #469598 |
consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > > "but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass." > > Does everyone argree with this statement? > > Which part do you have a problem with?
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| From | numbernumber1964@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-28 17:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <71d3c494-9a7d-49d2-8dba-998094f28f61@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #469610 |
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 4:40:50 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > > > > "but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass." > > > > Does everyone argree with this statement? > > > > > > > Which part do you have a problem with? Let someone else answer that.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-28 21:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B8621E7.1F45@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #469618 |
numbernumber1964@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 4:40:50 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > "but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass." > > > > > > Does everyone argree with this statement? > > > > > > > > > > > > Which part do you have a problem with? > > Let someone else answer that. How would someone else know which part do you have a problem with????
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 18:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <3e1c4543-df72-7d80-f0b3-a0c2b6f42e28@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #469610 |
The Starmaker wrote: [Quotation repaired] > consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: >>> but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass. >> Does everyone argree with this statement? > > Which part do you have a problem with? The part that follows the double-period. Not because I do not understand the words (even though it would have to be “its”, not “it’s”), but because it is COMPLETE AND UTTER NONSENSE. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 11:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B86E3CD.3634@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #469702 |
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > [Quotation repaired] > > > consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > >>> but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass. > >> Does everyone argree with this statement? > > > > Which part do you have a problem with? > > The part that follows the double-period. > A photon contains radioactive materials. L means the energy lost by a body in the form of radiation. E is L photo has energy in the form of radiation.. A photon contains radioactive materials. Get a real name like Pointed Lips...
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 20:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <a8bb9f25-c395-4ea4-83f8-0c71ce1d6625@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #469738 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass. >>>> Does everyone argree with this statement? >>> Which part do you have a problem with? >> The part that follows the double-period. > > A photon contains radioactive materials. No. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 14:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B870D90.280C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #469743 |
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass. > >>>> Does everyone argree with this statement? > >>> Which part do you have a problem with? > >> The part that follows the double-period. > > > > A photon contains radioactive materials. > > No. Photons comes from radioactive materials. It swims in radioactive materials... > > -- > PointedLips > > Twitter: @PointedLips2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-08-30 03:59 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <569ce51f-ee45-3fd7-3a0c-951c255d8693@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #469773 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass. >>>>>> Does everyone argree with this statement? >>>>> Which part do you have a problem with? >>>> The part that follows the double-period. >>> A photon contains radioactive materials. >> No. > > Photons comes from radioactive materials. “Photons” is a plural form, so proper English would be “Photons come…”. Photons do not only come from radioactive materials. Photons are everywhere since the beginning of time, and are absorbed and produced in a number of processes. Radioactivity is a very special phenomenon with nuclei of elements that does not even need to include photons/electromagnetic radiation. Not all kinds of radioactive decay produce gamma radiation. > It swims in radioactive materials... No. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-30 10:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B88260C.93A@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #469810 |
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>> but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass. > >>>>>> Does everyone argree with this statement? > >>>>> Which part do you have a problem with? > >>>> The part that follows the double-period. > >>> A photon contains radioactive materials. > >> No. > > > > Photons comes from radioactive materials. > > “Photons” is a plural form, so proper English would be “Photons come…”. > > Photons do not only come from radioactive materials. Photons are everywhere > since the beginning of time, and are absorbed and produced in a number of > processes. > > Radioactivity is a very special phenomenon with nuclei of elements that does > not even need to include photons/electromagnetic radiation. Not all kinds > of radioactive decay produce gamma radiation. > > > It swims in radioactive materials... > > No. > > -- > PointedEars > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. If you take a bunch of photons, and you crush them together, a rock is made. That's how you make...matter.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-30 13:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f3d8d982-021f-47c2-9825-d858e4b2435a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #469892 |
On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 10:14:50 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>> consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > > >>>>>>> but E does not represent the energy of a photon..only it's radiation. And you cannot have radiation without mass. > > >>>>>> Does everyone argree with this statement? > > >>>>> Which part do you have a problem with? > > >>>> The part that follows the double-period. > > >>> A photon contains radioactive materials. > > >> No. > > > > > > Photons comes from radioactive materials. > > > > “Photons” is a plural form, so proper English would be “Photons come…”. > > > > Photons do not only come from radioactive materials. Photons are everywhere > > since the beginning of time, and are absorbed and produced in a number of > > processes. > > > > Radioactivity is a very special phenomenon with nuclei of elements that does > > not even need to include photons/electromagnetic radiation. Not all kinds > > of radioactive decay produce gamma radiation. > > > > > It swims in radioactive materials... > > > > No. > > > > -- > > PointedEars > > > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. > > > > If you take a bunch of photons, and you crush them together, a rock is made. That's how you make...matter. No.
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| From | consequently7990662@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-28 15:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <caf1c12f-4d9c-4096-9189-dbc747cacf0c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #468982 |
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:09:33 AM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote: > You wrote: "This implies that photons must move at the speed of light in vacuum," then If E represents the energy of a photon than m and M are massless.
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 04:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <cmohD.124474$tw.13166@fx11.am4> |
| In reply to | #469597 |
On 28/08/2018 23:19, consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:09:33 AM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote:
>>
>
> You wrote: "This implies that photons must move at the speed of light in vacuum," then If E represents the energy of a photon than m and M are massless.
>
What I wrote was:
On 28/08/2018 19:04, Keith Stein wrote:
> On 25/08/2018 00:55, Tom Roberts wrote:
>> The question makes no sense, because a photon has no "size".
>>
>> Some people claim that a photon has a "length related to its wavelength"
> Indeed i think i would have placed myself in those "people",
> Mr.Roberts. Certainly i would have assumed that a
> "radio frequency photon" WAS longer than an "X-ray photon",
> if you hadn't put me right eh!
>> this is wrong because photons have no length (or wavelength or
>> frequency or energy). The only intrinsic properties a photon possesses
>> are is its mass (zero) and its spin (1 in units of h-bar, parallel or
>> anti-parallel to its momentum).
> I think i see what you mean. A photon does not have an "intrinsic"
> wavelength, because the wavelength depends upon the velocity of the
> observer. Even the longest radio wave must appear as an X ray
> to an observer approaching it at sufficient speed eh!
>
> ( While this is true in both Special relativity and
> Classical Physics, i note that in the former case the
> "sufficient speed" would very nearly, but not quite, "c",
> while in classical physics the "sufficient speed" to change
> radio frequencies to X-ray frequencies would be very many
> times "c" ).
>> In many/most cases a beam of many photons has properties such as
>> width,
> I struggle with the width of even a "single photon", Mr.Roberts,
> even if we limit the discussion to photons in the visible spectrum.
> Sometimes they need to have a width at least as big as a large
> diffraction grating, but they always seem to be small enough to
> fit through just one of the slits, and ultimately small enough
> to land on a single atom or molecule eh!
>> height, length, MEAN energy, MEAN waveleongth, etc. But these
>> characterize the source of the beam, not the individual photons.
>>
>> Photons are quantum objects, and are VERY different from the ordinary
>> objects of our everyday lives.
> Yes indeed Mr.Roberts, "very different", and i do understand why you
> wouldn't want to put a size to them eh!
>
>
> keith stein
>
>>
>> Tom Roberts
>
keith stein
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| From | consequently7990662@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-28 20:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <16cc8f7c-afa4-4faf-9cae-dbede90c93f2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #468982 |
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:09:33 AM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote: > First, a photon does not have a wavelength. The wavelength is arbitray. We do not know what the velocity of a photon is. Only thing we know is that light is composed of particles and the color of light appears to determine the energy but we really do not know that for certain since we have no real mechanism that explains how the different colors of light produce different photoelectron kinetic energies but this is just mush much much to advance for any of you.
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-29 08:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <QfshD.316500$bu.84766@fx17.am4> |
| In reply to | #469650 |
On 29/08/2018 04:34, consequently7990662@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:09:33 AM UTC-7, Keith Stein wrote: >> > First, a photon does not have a wavelength. The wavelength is arbitray. We do not know what the velocity of a photon is. Only thing we know is that light is > composed of particles and the color of light appears to determine the energy but we really do not know that for certain since we have no real mechanism that > explains how the different colors of light produce different photoelectron kinetic energies but this is just mush much much to advance for any of you. I'm not sure that answers my question "How Big is a PHOTON ?", but thanks for sharing eh! keith stein
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