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  By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-25 23:50 -0700
    Re: By definition Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendm.dp> - 2018-07-26 11:30 +0000
      Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 05:05 -0700
        Re: By definition Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 14:26 +0200
          Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 05:39 -0700
            Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 13:51 +0000
              Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 08:24 -0700
                Re: By definition Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 17:30 +0200
                  Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:59 +0000
                    Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 11:51 -0700
              Re: By definition moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 16:28 +0000
        Re: By definition moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 16:24 +0000
        Re: By definition Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:02 +0000
          Re: By definition Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 20:03 +0200
          Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 11:52 -0700
            Re: By definition Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:24 +0000
              Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 20:50 -0700
                Re: By definition Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-27 11:38 +0000
                  Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 05:11 -0700
                    Re: By definition Wayne Dial <ulau@dwipdn.dp> - 2018-07-29 14:19 +0000
                      Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-29 10:32 -0700
    Re: By definition moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 16:20 +0000
      Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 11:49 -0700
        Re: By definition Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-27 02:02 +0200
          Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 21:03 -0700
            Re: By definition "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 21:08 -0700
            Re: By definition moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 04:52 +0000
              Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 23:09 -0700
              Re: By definition kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-30 07:41 -0700
                Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 15:41 +0000
                  Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-30 09:24 -0700
                  Re: By definition kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-30 09:34 -0700
                    Re: By definition moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-30 17:53 +0000
                      Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-30 11:15 -0700
                      Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 18:21 +0000
                Re: By definition Wayne Dial <ulau@dvbpdn.dv> - 2018-07-30 19:18 +0000
                  Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-30 12:33 -0700
                    Re: By definition Wayne Dial <ulau@dvbpdn.dv> - 2018-07-30 19:43 +0000
                      Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-30 12:56 -0700
                        Re: By definition Wayne Dial <ulau@dvbpdn.dv> - 2018-07-30 20:08 +0000
                          Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-30 13:38 -0700
                            Re: By definition Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 16:34 +0000
                              Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-01 10:25 -0700
                              Re: By definition The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-01 11:31 -0700
                        Re: By definition Wayne Dial <ulau@dvbpdn.dv> - 2018-07-30 20:15 +0000
                  Re: By definition kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 12:14 -0700
                    Re: By definition moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 20:38 +0000
                      Re: By definition kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-01 13:52 -0700
                        Re: By definition moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 21:19 +0000
                      Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-01 21:06 -0700
                    Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 21:54 +0000
                      Re: By definition Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 22:45 +0000
                      Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-01 21:08 -0700
                        Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 09:41 +0000
                          Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-02 03:33 -0700
                            Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 10:37 +0000
                              Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-02 03:49 -0700
                                Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 11:01 +0000
                      Re: By definition kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 06:52 -0700
                        Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 17:39 +0000
                          Re: By definition mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-02 11:02 -0700
                          Re: By definition kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-02 11:57 -0700
                            Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 00:28 +0000
                              Re: By definition kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-08-03 06:21 -0700
                                Re: By definition Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 13:59 +0000

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#466263

On Monday, 30 July 2018 22:08:40 UTC+2, Wayne Dial  wrote:
> mlwozniak wrote:
> 
> >> >> >> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
> >> >> 
> >> >> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't
> >> >> believe what I am reading here.
> >> > 
> >> > Of course you can't believe. Nobody cares, however.
> >> > We have GPS, we can check: the real rates are 9,192,631,774.4647 and
> >> > 9,192,631,770.
> >> 
> >> And how you do that. By sticking your finger into the atom to affect
> >> its transition rate?
> > 
> > No, poor idiot. I'll use clocks.
> 
> To trigger the transitions?

No, poor idiot. To measure the rate. 

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#466475

mlwozniak wrote:

>> >> > Of course you can't believe. Nobody cares, however.
>> >> > We have GPS, we can check: the real rates are 9,192,631,774.4647
>> >> > and 9,192,631,770.
>> >> 
>> >> And how you do that. By sticking your finger into the atom to affect
>> >> its transition rate?
>> > 
>> > No, poor idiot. I'll use clocks.
>> 
>> To trigger the transitions?
> 
> No, poor idiot. To measure the rate.

A clock used to measure own rate? Or another better clock?? Are you out of 
your mind recently?

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#466479

On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 18:34:12 UTC+2, Ecký Zcitná  wrote:
> mlwozniak wrote:
> 
> >> >> > Of course you can't believe. Nobody cares, however.
> >> >> > We have GPS, we can check: the real rates are 9,192,631,774.4647
> >> >> > and 9,192,631,770.
> >> >> 
> >> >> And how you do that. By sticking your finger into the atom to affect
> >> >> its transition rate?
> >> > 
> >> > No, poor idiot. I'll use clocks.
> >> 
> >> To trigger the transitions?
> > 
> > No, poor idiot. To measure the rate.
> 
> A clock used to measure own rate?

That's right.

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#466485

Ecký Zcitná wrote:
> 
> mlwozniak wrote:
> 
> >> >> > Of course you can't believe. Nobody cares, however.
> >> >> > We have GPS, we can check: the real rates are 9,192,631,774.4647
> >> >> > and 9,192,631,770.
> >> >>
> >> >> And how you do that. By sticking your finger into the atom to affect
> >> >> its transition rate?
> >> >
> >> > No, poor idiot. I'll use clocks.
> >>
> >> To trigger the transitions?
> >
> > No, poor idiot. To measure the rate.
> 
> A clock used to measure own rate? Or another better clock?? Are you out of
> your mind recently?


Albert Einstein > Quotes > Quotable Quote. 
“Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.”


Now, the question is...what kind of clock was Einstein using?


"seems like a minute" appears to refer to a "A clock used to measure own rate"


a biological clock maybe...


I mean, what other kind of clock can be used to... "seems like a minute"????

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#466260

mlwozniak wrote:

>> >> >> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
>> >> 
>> >> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't
>> >> believe what I am reading here.
>> > 
>> > Of course you can't believe. Nobody cares, however.
>> > We have GPS, we can check: the real rates are 9,192,631,774.4647 and
>> > 9,192,631,770.
>> 
>> And how you do that. By sticking your finger into the atom to affect
>> its transition rate?
> 
> No, poor idiot. I'll use clocks.

And don't call me poor.

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#466494

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
> kenseto wrote:
> 
> > the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
> >> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
> >> >Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
> >> >9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
> >> >9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
> >> 
> >> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
> 
> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
> what I am reading here.

No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.

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#466512

kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
>> kenseto wrote:
>> 
>> > the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
>> >> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
>> >> >Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
>> >> >9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
>> >> >9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
>> >> 
>> >> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
>> 
>> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
>> what I am reading here.

>No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate.

Wrong, Stupid Ken. All Cs-133 atoms are identical. They all have the
transition at the same rate, locally.

> It 
>depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make 
>the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the 
>Cs clock.

No, Stupid Ken. There is no energy to make the transition other than from
the clock itself, and there is no absolute motion. Nobody cares if your
failed IRT has it, there is no absolute motion.

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#466518

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:38:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:
> 
> >On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
> >> kenseto wrote:
> >> 
> >> > the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
> >> >> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
> >> >> >Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
> >> >> >9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
> >> >> >9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
> >> 
> >> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
> >> what I am reading here.
> 
> >No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate.
> 
> Wrong, Stupid Ken. All Cs-133 atoms are identical. They all have the
> transition at the same rate, locally.

No, Moron, the rate of accumulating transitions is dependent on the state of absolute motion of the clock. The higher is the state of absolute motion of the clock, the slower rate is the arrival of the required energy to complete a transition and thus the slower rate of accumutling clock seconds. Gee you are so fucking stupid.

> 
> > It 
> >depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make 
> >the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the 
> >Cs clock.
> 
> No, Stupid Ken. There is no energy to make the transition other than from
> the clock itself, and there is no absolute motion. Nobody cares if your
> failed IRT has it, there is no absolute motion.

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#466521

kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes:

>On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:38:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:

>> >No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate.

>> Wrong, Stupid Ken. All Cs-133 atoms are identical. They all have the
>> transition at the same rate, locally.

>No, Moron, the rate of accumulating transitions is dependent on the state 
>of absolute motion of the clock. The higher is the state of absolute 
>motion of the clock, the slower rate is the arrival of the required 
>energy to complete a transition and thus the slower rate of accumutling 
>clock seconds. Gee you are so fucking stupid.

No, Stupid Ken, there is no such thing as absolute motion. The fact your
IRT needs an undetectable absolute motion is just one of many reasons why
your failed IRT is a complete, absolute, total disaster.
All Cs clocks are locally identical.

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#466571

On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 22:38:41 UTC+2, Michael Moroney  wrote:

> Wrong, Stupid Ken. All Cs-133 atoms are identical. They all have the
> transition at the same rate, locally.

We haved GPS now, so we can be absolutely sure this
moronic lie is just a moronic lie.

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#466537

kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
>> kenseto wrote:
>> 
>>> the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
>>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
>>>>> Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
>>>>> 9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
>>>>> 9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
>>>> 
>>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
>> 
>> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
>> what I am reading here.
> 
> No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
> depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
> the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.
> 

I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read. 
The standard for the second does not count transitions. It does not count
the time it takes to make a transition.  It does not count the rate of
transitions. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466540

Odd Bodkin wrote:

>>>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
>>> 
>>> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't
>>> believe what I am reading here.
>> 
>> No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
>> depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
>> the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of
>> the Cs clock.
>> 
>> 
> I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read.
> The standard for the second does not count transitions. It does not
> count the time it takes to make a transition.  It does not count the
> rate of transitions.

No shit, are you serious? That big number is there, just to impress the 
public, huh?

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#466572

On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:54:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
> >> kenseto wrote:
> >> 
> >>> the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
> >>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
> >>>>> Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
> >>>>> 9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
> >>>>> 9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
> >> 
> >> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
> >> what I am reading here.
> > 
> > No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
> > depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
> > the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.
> > 
> 
> I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read. 
> The standard for the second does not count transitions. 

Odd, poor idiot, a bunch of brainwashed idiots 
screaming "STANDARD!!! STANDARD!!" is not enough 
to create a standard. Not in the world we inhabit.

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#466595

<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:54:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
>>>>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
>>>>>>> Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
>>>>>>> 9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
>>>>>>> 9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
>>>> 
>>>> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
>>>> what I am reading here.
>>> 
>>> No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
>>> depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
>>> the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.
>>> 
>> 
>> I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read. 
>> The standard for the second does not count transitions. 
> 
> Odd, poor idiot, a bunch of brainwashed idiots 
> screaming "STANDARD!!! STANDARD!!" is not enough 
> to create a standard. Not in the world we inhabit.
> 
> 

That bunch of brainwashed idiots apparently including a bunch of
brainwashed idiot engineers at the standards bureau. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466601

On Thursday, 2 August 2018 11:41:46 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:54:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
> >>>> kenseto wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
> >>>>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
> >>>>>>> Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
> >>>>>>> 9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
> >>>>>>> 9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
> >>>> 
> >>>> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
> >>>> what I am reading here.
> >>> 
> >>> No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
> >>> depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
> >>> the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read. 
> >> The standard for the second does not count transitions. 
> > 
> > Odd, poor idiot, a bunch of brainwashed idiots 
> > screaming "STANDARD!!! STANDARD!!" is not enough 
> > to create a standard. Not in the world we inhabit.
> > 
> > 
> 
> That bunch of brainwashed idiots apparently including a bunch of
> brainwashed idiot engineers at the standards bureau. 

But not including the ones making and supporting GPS. Or
UTC. or TAI.

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#466604

<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Thursday, 2 August 2018 11:41:46 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:54:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
>>>>>>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
>>>>>>>>> Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
>>>>>>>>> 9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
>>>>>>>>> 9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
>>>>>> what I am reading here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
>>>>> depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
>>>>> the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read. 
>>>> The standard for the second does not count transitions. 
>>> 
>>> Odd, poor idiot, a bunch of brainwashed idiots 
>>> screaming "STANDARD!!! STANDARD!!" is not enough 
>>> to create a standard. Not in the world we inhabit.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> That bunch of brainwashed idiots apparently including a bunch of
>> brainwashed idiot engineers at the standards bureau. 
> 
> But not including the ones making and supporting GPS. Or
> UTC. or TAI.
> 

Nope, not true. You can find contributor lists. There are names of
engineers in common on both. 

Your imagined reality is not quite what really is. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466608

On Thursday, 2 August 2018 12:37:47 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Thursday, 2 August 2018 11:41:46 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:54:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
> >>>>>> kenseto wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
> >>>>>>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
> >>>>>>>>> Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
> >>>>>>>>> 9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
> >>>>>>>>> 9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
> >>>>>> what I am reading here.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
> >>>>> depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
> >>>>> the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read. 
> >>>> The standard for the second does not count transitions. 
> >>> 
> >>> Odd, poor idiot, a bunch of brainwashed idiots 
> >>> screaming "STANDARD!!! STANDARD!!" is not enough 
> >>> to create a standard. Not in the world we inhabit.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> That bunch of brainwashed idiots apparently including a bunch of
> >> brainwashed idiot engineers at the standards bureau. 
> > 
> > But not including the ones making and supporting GPS. Or
> > UTC. or TAI.
> > 
> 
> Nope, not true. You can find contributor lists. There are names of
> engineers in common on both. 

It often happens that extremly idiotic "standards"
are ignored also by their creators. 

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#466609

<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Thursday, 2 August 2018 12:37:47 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 2 August 2018 11:41:46 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:54:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
>>>>>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
>>>>>>>>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
>>>>>>>>>>> Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
>>>>>>>>>>> 9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
>>>>>>>> what I am reading here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
>>>>>>> depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
>>>>>>> the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read. 
>>>>>> The standard for the second does not count transitions. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Odd, poor idiot, a bunch of brainwashed idiots 
>>>>> screaming "STANDARD!!! STANDARD!!" is not enough 
>>>>> to create a standard. Not in the world we inhabit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That bunch of brainwashed idiots apparently including a bunch of
>>>> brainwashed idiot engineers at the standards bureau. 
>>> 
>>> But not including the ones making and supporting GPS. Or
>>> UTC. or TAI.
>>> 
>> 
>> Nope, not true. You can find contributor lists. There are names of
>> engineers in common on both. 
> 
> It often happens that extremly idiotic "standards"
> are ignored also by their creators. 
> 
> 
> 

Just keep telling yourself that. If only so that you believe it. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#466619

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:54:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
> >> kenseto wrote:
> >> 
> >>> the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
> >>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
> >>>>> Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
> >>>>> 9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
> >>>>> 9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
> >> 
> >> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
> >> what I am reading here.
> > 
> > No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
> > depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
> > the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.
> > 
> 
> I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read. 
> The standard for the second does not count transitions. It does not count
> the time it takes to make a transition.  It does not count the rate of
> transitions. 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

What does it count then?

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#466645

kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:54:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-4, Wayne Dial wrote:
>>>> kenseto wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> the cretin spammer Michael Moroney wrote:on the 
>>>>>> mlwozniak@wp.pl writes:
>>>>>>> Your lies won't change anything, poor fanatic trash. The rates are:
>>>>>>> 9,192,631,774.4647 for satellite clocks,
>>>>>>> 9,192,631,770 for ground clocks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yup. 9,192,631,774.4647 != 9,192,631,770, so t' != t.
>>>> 
>>>> The Cs transitions takes place at same rate, you stoopid! I can't believe 
>>>> what I am reading here.
>>> 
>>> No idiot, the Cs transitions does not takes place at the same rate. It
>>> depends on the rate of arrival of the specific amount of energy to make
>>> the transition which, in turn, is depended on the absolute motion of the Cs clock.
>>> 
>> 
>> I just want to point out to both you idiots that you cannot read. 
>> The standard for the second does not count transitions. It does not count
>> the time it takes to make a transition.  It does not count the rate of
>> transitions. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> What does it count then?
> 

Read the standard. 

It counts the periods of the oscillating radiation from a hyperfine
transition between two states in a Cs-133 atom. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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