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  Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-22 14:26 -0700
    Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-23 16:43 +0200
      Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 18:08 +0200
        Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-23 21:45 -0700
          Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 11:42 +0200
            Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-24 11:21 -0700
            Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-24 16:52 -0700
              Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-25 22:31 +0200
                Re: Deep Thought mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 20:23 -0700
                Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-25 23:36 -0700
                  Re: Deep Thought benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:00 -0400
                    Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-26 11:23 -0700
                  Re: Deep Thought mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 12:15 -0700
                Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-25 23:56 -0700
                  Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-26 00:00 -0700
                  Re: Deep Thought Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-07-27 17:01 +1000
                    Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-27 10:38 -0700
                      Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-28 10:38 -0700
                    Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:29 -0700
                      Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-28 12:00 +0200
                        Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-28 14:44 +0200
                          Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-30 18:18 +0200
                            Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-30 18:37 +0200
                              Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-01 22:38 +0200
                                Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-03 23:33 +0200
                                  Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-04 11:03 +0200
                                    Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-04 13:15 +0200
                                      Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-05 18:48 +0200
                                        Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-05 21:52 +0200
                                          Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-06 19:34 +0200
                                            Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-06 19:56 +0200
                                              Re: Deep Thought Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-06 22:26 +0200
                  Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-12 15:59 -0700
                    Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-12 16:15 -0700
                      Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-08-12 16:30 -0700
                      Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-13 21:20 -0700
                        Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-08-13 21:30 -0700
                          Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-13 21:37 -0700
                        Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-13 23:42 -0700
                          Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-14 00:36 -0700
                            Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 00:21 -0700
                              Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-28 00:56 -0700
                                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-08-28 19:23 +1000
                                  Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 00:01 -0700
                                Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-28 23:58 -0700
                                  Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 11:09 -0700
                                    Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-29 20:24 +0200
                                      Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 13:39 -0700
                                        Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-30 03:43 +0200
                                          Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-08-29 20:43 -0700
                                            Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-31 00:52 +0200
                                      Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 13:58 -0700
                                        Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-30 03:48 +0200
                                  Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-29 18:09 -0700
                                    Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-30 04:36 +0200
                                      Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 21:12 -0700
                                        Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 21:17 -0700
                                      Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-30 14:49 -0700
          Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:19 +0200
            Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-24 13:04 -0700
              Re: Deep Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-25 03:36 +0200
                Re: Deep Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-24 22:44 -0700
                  Re: Deep Thought pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 17:52 -0700
            Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-24 16:41 -0700
            Re: Deep Thought "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-24 16:54 -0700
    Re: Deep Thought benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:05 -0400
    Re: Deep Thought "C. Deifir" <cdf@dfr.net.inv> - 2018-07-23 21:18 +0100
      Re: Deep Thought mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 18:12 -0700
    Re: Deep Thought jgreenfield97@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 21:49 -0700
    Re: Deep Thought consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 13:28 -0700

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#465542

The Starmaker amok-crossposted across 4 newsgroups:
> More nonsense!

Unfortunately.

> It's like a disease!!!!

  Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind.
    -- Terry Pratchett

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#465565

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker amok-crossposted across 4 newsgroups:
> > More nonsense!
> 
> Unfortunately.
> 
> > It's like a disease!!!!
> 
>   Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind.
>     -- Terry Pratchett
> 
> --
> PointedEars
> 
> Twitter: @PointedEars2
> Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.



for heaven's sake!!!


How many exclaimination points are reqired when you say
for heaven's sake!!!

1
2
3
or 4?


Learn English!



and...get your stupid fuckin quotes right, i don't like it when people post wrong, inaccurate and untrue information on the internet!



“Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.” -- Terry Pratchett
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/51665-five-exclamation-marks-the-sure-sign-of-an-insane-mind



Learn to quote, learn to count. I see only four of my exclimination points.  It's like a disease!!!!




Don't mess with the lion's tail.

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#465686

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 10:43:45 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker amok-crossposted across 4 newsgroups:
> > > More nonsense!
> > 
> > Unfortunately.
> > 
> > > It's like a disease!!!!
> > 
> >   Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind.
> >     -- Terry Pratchett
> > 
> > --
> > PointedEars
> > 
> > Twitter: @PointedEars2
> > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
> 
> 
> 
> for heaven's sake!!!
> 
> 
> How many exclaimination points are reqired when you say
> for heaven's sake!!!
> 
> 1
> 2
> 3
> or 4?
> 
> 
> Learn English!
> 
> 
> 
> and...get your stupid fuckin quotes right, i don't like it when people post wrong, inaccurate and untrue information on the internet!
> 
> 
> 
> “Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind.” -- Terry Pratchett
> https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/51665-five-exclamation-marks-the-sure-sign-of-an-insane-mind
> 
> 
> 
> Learn to quote, learn to count. I see only four of my exclimination points.  It's like a disease!!!!

Actually, Terry Pratchett stated *both* of those quotes, so don't be so quick to judge!

https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Multiple_exclamation_marks

'Multiple exclamation marks,' he went on, shaking his head, 'are a sure sign of a diseased mind.' -- in Eric

Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind. -- in Reaper Man

'And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five? A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head.' -- in Maskerade

Do you wear your underpants on your head?

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#465533

On 7/24/2018 12:19 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> [Please do not crosspost without Followup-To.  F’up2 sci.physics.relativity]
> 
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> <sci-fi>
> 
> Yes, it is, for the most part.  And it appears to have little to do with my
> posting.
> 
>> I have always had a little feeling that the big bang might be nothing
>> more than a local hyper massive explosion contained within a much larger
>> universe.
> 
> A common misconception.
> 
> Contrary to what the term implies, the Big Bang is NOT an explosion.  Keep
> in mind that the term was coined by Fred Hoyle in order to *mock* adherents
> of the now-confirmed theory of universal *expansion*.  The name stuck,
> therefore we call it the Big Bang theory today.
> 
> The Big Bang as an event was not local in any sense of the word, but as an
> event was and as a process is global in every sense of the word: It
> happened/happens everywhere in our universe.  Regarding the event, because
> our universe was infinitesimally small back then; regarding now, because
> that is what our universe is.  The theory says that spacetime began with
> the Big Bang event:
> 
> ,-<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Expansion_of_space>
> |
> | […] The Big Bang is not an explosion of matter moving outward to fill an
> | empty universe. Instead, space itself expands with time everywhere […]
> 
>> Perhaps a cluster of ultra massive black holes all finally
>> merged together.
> 
> An interesting idea that might be difficult to disprove (which does not mean
> that it is correct).  IIUC it is a distinct possibility – and not
> science-fiction – that what we think is our universe is actually the inside
> of a supermassive black hole (see also:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle>).

I have had some fairly crude, sci-fi thoughts on that in the past:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.arch/W2fkwDsEw54/Dr5nBm_mBQAJ

<sci-fi>
We are contained within a black hole that exists within our parent universe.

Our universe has many thriving children. Unfortunately, some of them are 
"duds" that do not produce any offspring.

It seems like the whole of the infinite forest of universes, just might 
be the multi-verse.

If a super cluster of hyper massive black holes merged, the resulting 
crazy massive black hole, might create child universes contained within 
itself.

<super sci-fi, sorry>
I wonder if a hypernova can create a male or female "class" of black 
hole. When the male and female classes merge, well, they can create 
children of their own...

The multi-verse might be an infinite multi-ary tree, with no root, and 
no end. It was always there. Where new universes are being born inside 
of male and female black holes merging together.
</super sci-fi, sorry>

This means that our own universe has many children.
</sci-fi>


> 
> Dr. Lawrence Krauss answered to the question
> 
> ,-<https://youtu.be/7ImvlS8PLIo?t=3453>
> |
> | Q: […] If quantum fluctuations are able to actually produce universes […],
> | is there ever a chance we might actually observe another universe being
> | created?
> 
> after his (great) 2009 talk “A Universe from Nothing”:
> 
> | A: […] But interestingly enough – and this is one of the wonderful things
> | about general relativity ­– if a baby universe got created, an inflating
> | universe like the one we think we began in, it’s really weird: Because
> | from the inside it would look like it was growing exponentially; from
> | the outside it would look like it was shrinking to form a black hole.
> 
> This answer has puzzled me since I have heard it, and I would appreciate
> an explanation in simple terms (I have not yet a full understanding of
> general relativity) by a professional physicist.
> 
>> Wrt a larger universe, the big bang could be a single
>> pixel in the following rendering:
> 
> Not the Big Bang, but our observable universe.  The “larger universe” would
> be the multiverse.

Okay, right. Think about a higher level construct where each pixel 
corresponded to a separate universe. If a pixel within a universe 
created another universe, well, we have to zoom in deeper. I have a 
feeling that there a shi% load of fertile pixels, or black holes with 
viable child universes, within our _own_ universe.

> 
> IIUC, this is the theory of eternal inflation.  However, it appears to have
> been disproved by the “Planck” space probe’s 2015 data release.  The final
> dataset of the mission was just released, which might indicate something
> else; I have not had time to look at (analyses of) it.
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation>
> 

Thank you. If a pixel A on an infinite plane was a universe, and some of 
the internal pixels B within A created other universes, well... Afaict, 
it sort of implies we can zoom in forever: it seems like an infinite 
tree where branching points are crazy large mergers of a shi% load of 
hyper massive black holes. Humm...

Sorry for venturing into Kook land for a moment.

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#465535

On 7/24/2018 12:19 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> [Please do not crosspost without Followup-To.  F’up2 sci.physics.relativity]
> 
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> <sci-fi>
> 
> Yes, it is, for the most part.  And it appears to have little to do with my
> posting.

[...]

Ack. Sorry about that, wrt altering the subject. Thank you for being kind.

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#465311

On 7/22/2018 5:26 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> i always thought the earth
> was at the center
>   of the universe..
> but i just had a
> deep thought!
> 
> I AM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!
> 
> if i look up
> i see the universe
> if i point right
> there is the universe
> to my left is the universe
> but..below my feet
> IS THE UNIVERSE!
> 
> 
> I AT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!
> 
> 
> wat do i do now, do i write a book????
> 
Hey deep thinker, exactly HOW do you know you are at the center of the 
universe. For most of us here from our reference frame you are more than 
just a little bit off center!

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#465361

The Starmaker wrote:
> i always thought the earth
> was at the center
>   of the universe..
> but i just had a
> deep thought!
> 
> I AM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!
> 
> if i look up
> i see the universe
> if i point right
> there is the universe
> to my left is the universe
> but..below my feet
> IS THE UNIVERSE!
> 
> 
> I AT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!
> 
> 
> wat do i do now, do i write a book????
> 
--------------

Mankind must be some kind of centre.

God created the universe, then He created mankind
and He revealed to him the unknowable.

So mankind must take these things to the edges.

cd

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#465383

On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:19:08 PM UTC-7, C. Deifir wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > i always thought the earth
> > was at the center
> >   of the universe..
> > but i just had a
> > deep thought!
> > 
> > I AM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!
> > 
> > if i look up
> > i see the universe
> > if i point right
> > there is the universe
> > to my left is the universe
> > but..below my feet
> > IS THE UNIVERSE!
> > 
> > 
> > I AT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!
> > 
> > 
> > wat do i do now, do i write a book????
> > 
> --------------
> 
> Mankind must be some kind of centre.
> 
> God created the universe, then He created mankind
> and He revealed to him the unknowable.
> 
> So mankind must take these things to the edges.
> 
> cd

Man can know the God unknowable factor where it is at.
Right Roy. The complete unknowable to man from
God is the first mathematical factor of existence for how
He creates gravity field strength... through His Eternal
gravity build order energy-mass-weight.

Religion is closer to this truth if it cares to listen.

Atheist science would not want to hear this truth.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#465399

On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 6:56:25 AM UTC+9:30, The Starmaker wrote:
> i always thought the earth
> was at the center
>  of the universe..
> but i just had a
> deep thought!
> 
> I AM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!
> 
> if i look up
> i see the universe
> if i point right
> there is the universe
> to my left is the universe
> but..below my feet
> IS THE UNIVERSE!
> 
> 
> I AT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!
> 
> 
> wat do i do now, do i write a book????

Claimed to be 14B light years in every direction to the edge.
Yep! We are certainly at the center!

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#465487

If your the center of the universe what happens when you sleep. Does the universe sleep?

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