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A suggested time dilation experiment

Started byEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
First post2018-07-13 10:10 -0700
Last post2018-07-31 21:25 -0700
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  A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 10:10 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 10:53 -0700
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:09 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:04 -0700
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:05 -0700
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 12:55 -0700
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-22 18:15 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 12:25 -0700
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 13:16 -0700
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 14:56 -0700
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 09:52 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment KronosPrime@outlook.com - 2018-07-27 13:16 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 13:45 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:01 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:14 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 09:37 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 19:51 -0700
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@dwipdn.dv> - 2018-07-29 14:47 +0000
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 12:51 -0700
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:04 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 12:42 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-13 13:06 -0700
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 13:26 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-13 15:22 -0500
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 13:58 -0700
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-13 14:30 -0700
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 09:39 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-14 10:07 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 10:41 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-14 11:04 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 12:56 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-14 13:10 -0700
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 13:36 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 13:52 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-14 13:58 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-14 23:20 +0200
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-14 15:10 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 11:34 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 13:08 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 18:07 -0700
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-15 10:44 +0200
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 05:45 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-15 15:32 +0200
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-15 15:33 +0200
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 06:58 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-15 09:40 -0400
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 07:05 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-15 10:15 -0400
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 07:36 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 19:14 +0000
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 09:43 -0700
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 09:42 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 12:48 -0400
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 10:35 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 17:51 -0500
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 18:17 -0700
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 10:02 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-15 10:54 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 13:05 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-15 20:19 +0000
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-15 17:20 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:12 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-22 18:03 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 23:19 -0500
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-22 21:35 -0700
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 09:53 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-23 17:05 +0000
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 19:44 +0200
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-27 12:04 +0000
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-23 14:59 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 09:18 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 12:59 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 13:50 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 14:19 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 14:56 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 18:04 -0500
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-16 10:34 +0200
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 04:17 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-16 13:09 -0500
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 12:07 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:10 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 10:02 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 13:13 -0700
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-16 14:33 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-16 23:52 -0700
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-17 10:20 -0700
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 10:27 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 18:02 -0500
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-14 22:30 -0500
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 10:27 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-15 11:04 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 13:08 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-15 20:16 +0000
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 18:23 -0500
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-20 10:57 -0700
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 15:28 -0700
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-13 22:28 -0700
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 10:11 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-14 10:34 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-14 10:42 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-14 10:54 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 10:42 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-20 11:14 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 11:46 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 11:54 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:32 +0000
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:35 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-20 13:47 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-20 23:29 +0200
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:30 +0000
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-21 13:45 -0700
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-13 22:34 -0500
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 09:15 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-14 23:26 -0500
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 00:18 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-15 01:17 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-15 11:43 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 05:49 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 09:22 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 17:21 -0700
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-16 08:59 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-16 09:54 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-22 17:57 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 03:12 +0200
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 02:28 +0000
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 10:33 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-16 10:07 -0500
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:24 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-16 08:40 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 22:58 +0000
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-17 17:33 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 18:02 +0000
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-23 10:37 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 00:36 -0500
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-14 00:40 -0400
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-14 00:11 -0500
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-14 15:05 +0000
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-15 20:05 +0200
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 13:27 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-15 20:28 +0000
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 14:04 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-15 23:23 +0200
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 14:27 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 14:36 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-16 00:09 +0200
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-15 16:06 -0700
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-15 16:22 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:00 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-16 08:36 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-15 14:20 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 18:36 -0500
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 16:55 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-16 16:21 +0200
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:19 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-17 19:17 +0200
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 10:44 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 17:50 +0000
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 17:56 +0000
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 11:07 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 18:16 +0000
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 11:46 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 19:31 +0000
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 13:47 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:01 +0000
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-17 11:34 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-17 13:20 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-19 18:23 +0200
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 09:30 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 16:48 +0000
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 10:00 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-19 09:51 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 10:01 -0700
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-19 13:30 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 16:44 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 21:17 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 08:27 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-20 09:34 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-20 09:40 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 18:30 +0000
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:06 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-20 13:18 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-20 13:21 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 13:23 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-22 15:45 -0700
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 08:52 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-23 09:19 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-20 16:50 -0500
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 14:55 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 23:46 +0000
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-20 16:58 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-21 09:23 -0700
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-21 18:51 +0200
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 17:15 +0000
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-21 19:36 +0200
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:06 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-22 00:15 +0200
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 08:56 -0500
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-22 13:00 -0700
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 22:34 +0200
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-22 14:11 -0700
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-22 23:17 +0200
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-24 11:19 +0200
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 03:21 -0700
                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 07:33 -0700
                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 15:03 +0000
                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-24 11:43 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 13:51 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-24 14:29 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 20:49 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 21:16 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 09:19 -0700
                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 13:47 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:14 +0000
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 13:12 -0700
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 08:32 -0700
                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-25 10:25 +0200
                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 09:49 -0700
                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-26 09:42 +0200
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:47 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:56 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-27 10:38 +0200
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 08:22 -0700
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:52 -0700
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 09:40 -0700
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:56 -0700
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 18:56 +0000
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 13:18 -0700
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 21:02 +0000
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 09:24 -0700
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:14 -0700
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-28 10:58 +0200
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 12:42 -0700
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-29 09:41 +0200
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 13:15 -0700
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-30 10:16 +0200
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 09:03 -0700
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 09:10 -0700
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 09:52 -0700
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-31 11:36 +0200
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-31 12:10 +0200
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-30 17:40 +0000
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 14:31 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-30 14:49 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 08:33 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-31 08:44 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 15:55 +0000
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:46 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:57 -0700
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 10:32 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 14:22 -0700
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-31 14:25 -0700
                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:03 -0700
                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 15:14 +0000
                                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 09:20 -0700
                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 14:44 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-01 13:03 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 15:54 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 00:03 +0000
                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:20 -0700
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-31 13:30 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 14:07 -0700
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-31 16:44 -0700
                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:27 -0700
                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 11:34 -0500
                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-09 23:12 -0700
                                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-10 22:05 -0500
                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-12 13:52 +0000
                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-16 15:05 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-16 15:17 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-17 10:24 -0500
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-31 17:05 -0700
                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 09:03 -0700
                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-01 16:24 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 19:26 -0500
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 11:03 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 14:43 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 16:45 -0700
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:46 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 09:03 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 21:38 +0000
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 18:38 -0700
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-02 12:31 +0200
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-02 11:10 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 05:13 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 14:04 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:51 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:56 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-30 22:22 +0000
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 08:53 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 05:02 +0000
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 09:09 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 20:29 +0000
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-31 10:52 +0200
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:42 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-08-01 11:39 +0200
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 09:10 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-08-02 09:20 +0200
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-22 14:58 -0700
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 08:44 -0700
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-23 09:00 -0700
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 23:13 -0500
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 07:58 -0700
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 09:51 -0700
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-23 10:29 -0700
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-23 23:58 +0200
                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 15:19 -0700
                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 00:23 +0200
                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 00:25 +0200
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-23 16:05 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 16:33 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-23 21:38 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-24 09:34 +0200
                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 16:06 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:33 +0200
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 20:37 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-21 19:21 +0200
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 10:44 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:06 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 09:42 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:28 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-20 14:04 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 21:42 +0000
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 15:09 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 23:33 +0000
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 22:31 -0700
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:17 +0000
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 08:36 -0700
                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:45 +0000
                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 08:49 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-21 08:54 -0700
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:53 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 22:25 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-22 12:43 -0700
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-22 23:01 +0200
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 14:14 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:16 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 11:20 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 18:45 +0000
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 12:00 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 19:05 +0000
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 14:23 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:22 -0700
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 20:34 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:35 +0000
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:20 -0700
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 12:23 -0700
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:48 +0000
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:48 +0000
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:28 -0700
                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-27 11:59 +0000
                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:27 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 12:24 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:38 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:19 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-20 21:00 +0200
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 12:28 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 14:38 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:19 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 20:11 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-21 10:04 -0700
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-21 19:29 +0200
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 12:32 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-22 00:23 +0200
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-22 12:28 -0700
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-22 14:16 -0700
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-22 14:36 -0700
                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 08:32 -0700
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-23 17:52 +0200
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-23 09:25 -0700
                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 10:00 -0700
                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 14:53 -0700
                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 00:01 +0200
                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-23 15:28 -0700
                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 07:28 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 07:35 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-24 08:16 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 08:53 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 16:39 +0000
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 18:55 +0200
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:19 +0000
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 10:24 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 13:41 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 13:49 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:14 +0000
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 13:58 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-24 14:04 -0700
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 14:22 -0700
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 23:31 +0200
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:38 +0000
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-24 14:40 -0700
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 08:17 -0700
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-25 08:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 17:38 +0200
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 08:49 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 18:09 +0200
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:56 +0000
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-25 16:34 +0000
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 13:26 -0700
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:01 -0700
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-26 00:16 +0200
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 07:18 -0700
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendm.dp> - 2018-07-26 14:52 +0000
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:56 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:36 +0000
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:37 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:21 +0000
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 14:37 -0700
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:51 +0000
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:25 -0700
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:44 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 13:36 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:43 -0700
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-24 15:28 -0700
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 08:20 -0700
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-25 08:35 -0700
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 17:35 +0200
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:56 +0000
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-25 09:04 -0700
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 11:53 -0700
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 13:31 -0700
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:42 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:12 -0700
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 19:38 -0700
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 11:18 +0200
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 11:47 -0700
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 21:04 +0200
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 13:33 -0700
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-26 00:07 +0200
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 21:15 +0000
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 09:18 -0700
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 13:02 -0700
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:22 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-25 14:34 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 14:48 -0700
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:56 -0700
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:22 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-25 21:14 -0400
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 01:23 +0000
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:23 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-25 21:29 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 07:27 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-26 07:52 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:56 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-26 10:16 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:24 +0000
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 17:29 +0000
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-26 10:28 -0500
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 13:02 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:51 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 17:43 -0700
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:27 -0700
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 10:56 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:35 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 13:52 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:57 +0200
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:38 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 16:50 +0200
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:17 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 17:49 +0000
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 11:06 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 11:16 -0700
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 11:52 -0700
                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 14:01 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 08:29 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 09:29 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 09:52 -0700
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 18:58 +0200
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 22:04 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 23:38 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 14:00 +0000
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 10:20 -0700
                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 16:12 -0700
                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 08:15 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 19:22 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:41 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:10 -0700
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:13 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 09:04 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 18:14 +0200
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-25 09:24 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 12:29 -0700
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:00 -0700
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 15:22 -0700
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 08:25 -0700
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 09:59 -0700
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:23 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:23 +0000
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:17 -0700
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 07:44 -0700
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:39 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-27 02:10 +0200
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 17:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:26 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:13 +0000
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 14:30 -0700
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-26 14:37 -0700
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 13:13 -0700
                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:58 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:05 -0700
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:08 -0700
                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 14:06 -0700
                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 14:17 -0700
                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:19 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:46 +0200
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 07:58 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 17:03 +0200
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:41 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 09:04 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:37 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:47 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 09:39 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 11:16 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 13:12 -0700
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 14:01 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 23:37 +0200
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:44 +0000
                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 21:49 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 09:21 -0700
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 10:32 -0700
                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 13:25 -0700
                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 18:46 -0700
                                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 12:28 -0700
                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 13:09 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 14:14 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 15:32 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 08:25 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 10:11 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 10:35 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 13:40 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 14:42 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-30 15:39 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 23:50 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 15:50 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 00:21 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-30 12:59 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 07:59 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 08:40 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 09:11 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 09:20 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 10:49 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 13:02 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 14:01 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 22:03 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-31 22:03 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 18:41 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 18:48 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 18:51 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-02 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 13:02 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-02 21:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 14:30 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-02 22:25 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 16:13 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-04 14:02 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 05:32 -0700
                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 06:24 -0700
                                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 09:46 -0700
                                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 10:06 -0700
                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 14:46 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-30 15:43 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-30 15:56 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-30 16:05 -0700
                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 14:48 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:22 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 15:27 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 08:34 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:23 -0700
                                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 17:25 +0000
                                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 23:48 -0500
                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:22 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-31 13:18 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 13:12 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-31 16:29 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:06 -0700
                                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-31 14:05 -0700
                                                                                                  QED and photons (was: Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 11:20 -0500
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-28 14:46 -0700
                                                                              Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-27 13:15 -0500
                                                                                Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 11:36 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 15:01 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 15:12 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-29 10:21 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Wayne Dial <ulau@dwipdn.dv> - 2018-07-29 16:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 18:51 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Wayne Dial <ulau@dwbpdn.dv> - 2018-07-29 18:57 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 21:01 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Wayne Dial <ulau@dvbpdn.dv> - 2018-07-29 19:23 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 10:02 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 20:20 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 12:37 -0700
                                                                                Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 13:07 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 13:27 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-29 10:40 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 10:28 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 11:46 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 12:54 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 22:27 -0500
                                                                                Re: Falling objects in GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-28 15:58 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Falling objects in GR SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-29 18:01 +1000
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:25 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:51 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:28 -0700
                                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 13:42 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 21:10 +0000
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 09:36 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 14:59 -0700
                                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 21:48 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-28 10:22 +0200
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 08:33 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-30 14:35 -0700
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 23:43 -0500
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 10:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 11:06 -0700
                                                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 13:35 -0700
                                                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 19:16 -0700
                                                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 12:48 -0700
                                                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 13:52 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 12:55 -0700
                                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-29 22:13 -0700
                                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 00:23 -0700
                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:54 -0700
                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 18:05 +0000
                                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 13:25 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-24 13:43 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:14 +0000
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 13:53 -0700
                                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 10:23 -0700
                                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 12:11 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 12:39 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-25 14:07 -0700
                                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 14:36 -0700
                                                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:51 -0700
                                                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:44 -0700
                                                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 10:05 -0700
                                                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 19:19 +0200
                                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-22 18:53 -0700
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:14 -0700
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:58 -0700
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-21 11:05 +0200
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 02:36 -0700
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-21 11:47 +0200
                                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 04:41 -0700
                                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-21 15:01 +0200
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:19 +0000
                                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 03:38 +0200
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-19 17:04 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-21 11:44 +0200
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 05:27 -0700
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:34 +0200
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 20:43 -0700
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 16:50 +0000
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 17:04 +0000
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:47 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 22:51 +0000
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 15:04 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-18 23:51 +0000
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 13:52 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 18:54 +0000
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 12:32 -0700
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:16 +0000
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 11:20 -0700
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 21:32 -0700
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-16 10:17 -0500
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-18 17:49 +0000
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-19 02:45 +0200
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-19 12:40 +0000
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-19 20:20 +0200
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 09:18 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-13 14:54 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 14:54 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mgilady@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 23:19 -0700
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-25 23:59 -0700
    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-25 23:34 -0700
      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:34 -0700
        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-26 13:25 -0700
          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-26 14:29 -0700
            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 14:40 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:53 +0000
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 07:38 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:13 -0700
              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-29 13:25 -0700
                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 14:30 -0700
                  Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-29 15:13 -0700
                    Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 07:12 -0700
                      Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 22:12 -0500
                        Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:04 -0700
                          Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-31 13:15 -0500
                            Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-31 13:07 -0700
                              Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-31 15:52 -0500
                                Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-31 21:25 -0700

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#464676

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-07-17 11:46 -0700
Message-ID<39fc2d87-3757-4b6b-80fd-989a72e2d0df@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464671
On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 20:16:39 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:50:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:17:06 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Pretending that the road is stationary doesn't
> >>>> mean it is stationary. The road and you are moving,
> >>>> and so am I, so how do you know that I am moving fastest?
> >>> 
> >>> Thinking people know stuff. But how would you know,
> >>> poor idiot.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Some people THINK they know stuff they really don’t.
> > 
> > 
> > You're a perfect example, poor woodworker halfbrain.
> > 
> >> These turn out to be
> >> people who don’t think too well, even if they claim they do. 
> > 
> > Right.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Glad you recognize the problem. 
> 
> Now, what makes you so sure you’re not an example of this? 

Well, even if you weren't too arogant to
listen, you would be still too stupid to
understand.
And what makes you so sure I am?



> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#464687

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-17 19:31 +0000
Message-ID<pilg5m$1662$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#464676
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 20:16:39 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:50:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:17:06 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pretending that the road is stationary doesn't
>>>>>> mean it is stationary. The road and you are moving,
>>>>>> and so am I, so how do you know that I am moving fastest?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thinking people know stuff. But how would you know,
>>>>> poor idiot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Some people THINK they know stuff they really don’t.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You're a perfect example, poor woodworker halfbrain.
>>> 
>>>> These turn out to be
>>>> people who don’t think too well, even if they claim they do. 
>>> 
>>> Right.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Glad you recognize the problem. 
>> 
>> Now, what makes you so sure you’re not an example of this? 
> 
> Well, even if you weren't too arogant to
> listen, you would be still too stupid to
> understand.
> And what makes you so sure I am?

Oh, your history of getting so many facts wrong, for instance. 

> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#464700

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-07-17 13:47 -0700
Message-ID<32702968-6af1-46d1-8a41-d480497d2f88@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464687
On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:31:07 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 20:16:39 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:50:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> >>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:17:06 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Pretending that the road is stationary doesn't
> >>>>>> mean it is stationary. The road and you are moving,
> >>>>>> and so am I, so how do you know that I am moving fastest?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thinking people know stuff. But how would you know,
> >>>>> poor idiot.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Some people THINK they know stuff they really don’t.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> You're a perfect example, poor woodworker halfbrain.
> >>> 
> >>>> These turn out to be
> >>>> people who don’t think too well, even if they claim they do. 
> >>> 
> >>> Right.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Glad you recognize the problem. 
> >> 
> >> Now, what makes you so sure you’re not an example of this? 
> > 
> > Well, even if you weren't too arogant to
> > listen, you would be still too stupid to
> > understand.
> > And what makes you so sure I am?
> 
> Oh, your history of getting so many facts wrong, for instance. 


The problem is:  some people THINK they know stuff they really don’t.
For instance, you only think you know how to get facts right, poor
halfbrain.

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#464702

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-17 21:01 +0000
Message-ID<pillg2$1eov$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#464700
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:31:07 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 20:16:39 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:50:48 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
>>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:17:06 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Pretending that the road is stationary doesn't
>>>>>>>> mean it is stationary. The road and you are moving,
>>>>>>>> and so am I, so how do you know that I am moving fastest?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thinking people know stuff. But how would you know,
>>>>>>> poor idiot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some people THINK they know stuff they really don’t.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You're a perfect example, poor woodworker halfbrain.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> These turn out to be
>>>>>> people who don’t think too well, even if they claim they do. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Glad you recognize the problem. 
>>>> 
>>>> Now, what makes you so sure you’re not an example of this? 
>>> 
>>> Well, even if you weren't too arogant to
>>> listen, you would be still too stupid to
>>> understand.
>>> And what makes you so sure I am?
>> 
>> Oh, your history of getting so many facts wrong, for instance. 
> 
> 
> The problem is:  some people THINK they know stuff they really don’t.
> For instance, you only think you know how to get facts right, poor
> halfbrain.
> 
> 

Facts are documented. And you get them wrong. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#464674

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-07-17 11:34 -0700
Message-ID<5B4E36A6.5D0B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#464661
Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:17:06 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:
> >
> >> Pretending that the road is stationary doesn't
> >> mean it is stationary. The road and you are moving,
> >> and so am I, so how do you know that I am moving fastest?
> >
> > Thinking people know stuff. But how would you know,
> > poor idiot.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Some people THINK they know stuff they really don’t. These turn out to be
> people who don’t think too well, even if they claim they do.
> 
> --
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

i know this stuff...

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#464693

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-07-17 13:20 -0700
Message-ID<b875c26c-75cf-4dd4-bea4-0a7b214a9e75@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464649
On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 12:17:06 PM UTC-5, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 16.07.2018 17.19, skrev Ed Lake:
> > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 9:21:36 AM UTC-5, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> >> Den 15.07.2018 22.27, skrev Ed Lake:
> >>>
> >>> PRETENDING that you are stationary doesn't mean you are stationary.  And mathematical models based upon nonsense result in mathematical nonsense.
> >>>
> >>> In no reality is ANYTHING "stationary" in the centrifuge experiment.  EVERYTHING is moving around the center of the Milky Way galaxy at 486,000 miles per hour.
> >>>
> >>> But often one object moves FASTER than another object.
> >>
> >> If you are standing at the side of the road, and I am passing
> >> you in my car at 100 mph relative to the road, who is moving fastest?
> > 
> > If you are talking about motion relative to the road, you are moving fastest.
> 
> Pretending that the road is stationary doesn't
> mean it is stationary. The road and you are moving,
> and so am I, so how do you know that I am moving fastest?
> 
> > 
> > If you are talking about motion relative to the sun or to the center of the Milky Way galaxy, you need to specify which direction you are traveling relative to the spin of the earth on its axis.  
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> 
> Pretending that the Sun is stationary doesn't
> mean it is stationary.
> Pretending that the centre of the Milky Way is stationary
> doesn't mean it is stationary.
> 
> The road is moving, the Earth is moving, the Sun is moving,
> the Milky Way is moving.

Did anyone say otherwise?

> 
> Neither I nor you are stationary, but often one person
> moves FASTER than another person.
> 
> So I am asking you:
> If you are standing at the side of the road, and I, in my car,
> am passing you at 100 mph in the eastwards direction.
> Who is moving fastest?

You are.  When you travel eastward, your speed through space is added to the speed of the earth on its axis at that point.  Since I am not moving relative to the earth, my speed is the same as the earth spinning on its axis.

If you were traveling westward, your speed would be subtracted from the speed of the earth on its axis, and I would be moving faster because I would be moving at the same speed as the earth as it spins.

If we had atomic clocks with us, it would be a miniature version of Hafele-Keating.

Ed

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#464914

From"Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Date2018-07-19 18:23 +0200
Message-ID<zW24D.1262871$xc3.1212227@fx36.am4>
In reply to#464693
Den 17.07.2018 22.20, skrev Ed Lake:
> On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 12:17:06 PM UTC-5, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>> Den 16.07.2018 17.19, skrev Ed Lake:
>>> On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 9:21:36 AM UTC-5, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>> Den 15.07.2018 22.27, skrev Ed Lake:
>>>>>
>>>>> PRETENDING that you are stationary doesn't mean you are stationary.  And mathematical models based upon nonsense result in mathematical nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>> In no reality is ANYTHING "stationary" in the centrifuge experiment.  EVERYTHING is moving around the center of the Milky Way galaxy at 486,000 miles per hour.
>>>>>
>>>>> But often one object moves FASTER than another object.
>>>>
>>>> If you are standing at the side of the road, and I am passing
>>>> you in my car at 100 mph relative to the road, who is moving fastest?
>>>
>>> If you are talking about motion relative to the road, you are moving fastest.
>>
>> Pretending that the road is stationary doesn't
>> mean it is stationary. The road and you are moving,
>> and so am I, so how do you know that I am moving fastest?
>>
>>>
>>> If you are talking about motion relative to the sun or to the center of the Milky Way galaxy, you need to specify which direction you are traveling relative to the spin of the earth on its axis.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>
>> Pretending that the Sun is stationary doesn't
>> mean it is stationary.
>> Pretending that the centre of the Milky Way is stationary
>> doesn't mean it is stationary.
>>
>> The road is moving, the Earth is moving, the Sun is moving,
>> the Milky Way is moving.
> 
> Did anyone say otherwise?
> 
>>
>> Neither I nor you are stationary, but often one person
>> moves FASTER than another person.
>>
>> So I am asking you:
>> If you are standing at the side of the road, and I, in my car,
>> am passing you at 100 mph in the eastwards direction.
>> Who is moving fastest?
> 
> You are.  When you travel eastward, your speed through space is added to the speed of the earth on its axis at that point.  Since I am not moving relative to the earth, my speed is the same as the earth spinning on its axis.

You are now assuming that the Earth is moving through
space at a speed less than 465 m/s, but the Earth is moving
around the Sun at 30 km/s.
So if the Sun is stationary in space, you maximal speed
through space would be 30465 m/s during the night, and
your minimal speed through space would be 29535 m/s
during the day, while my maximal speed through space would
be 30493 m/s during the night, and my minimal would be 29507 m/s
during the day.
So in that case, you would move faster than me during the day,
and I would move faster than you during the night.
But the Sun isn't stationary, it is moving very fast around
the centre of the Milky Way.
And the centre of the milky way isn't stationary, it is
moving through space.

So all things considered, who are moving fastest through space?


-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#464916

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-07-19 09:30 -0700
Message-ID<52086ae8-a330-4526-9257-0aabcb3f7992@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464914
On Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:24:01 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:

> You are now assuming that the Earth is moving through
> space at a speed less than 465 m/s, but the Earth is moving
> around the Sun at 30 km/s.
> So if the Sun is stationary in space, you maximal speed
> through space would be 30465 m/s during the night, and
> your minimal speed through space would be 29535 m/s
> during the day, while my maximal speed through space would
> be 30493 m/s during the night, and my minimal would be 29507 m/s
> during the day.
> So in that case, you would move faster than me during the day,
> and I would move faster than you during the night.
> But the Sun isn't stationary, it is moving very fast around
> the centre of the Milky Way.


Have you ever heard of the relativity of the movement,
poor halfbrain?



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#464919

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-19 16:48 +0000
Message-ID<piqfc0$1d6v$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#464916
<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> On Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:24:01 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:
> 
>> You are now assuming that the Earth is moving through
>> space at a speed less than 465 m/s, but the Earth is moving
>> around the Sun at 30 km/s.
>> So if the Sun is stationary in space, you maximal speed
>> through space would be 30465 m/s during the night, and
>> your minimal speed through space would be 29535 m/s
>> during the day, while my maximal speed through space would
>> be 30493 m/s during the night, and my minimal would be 29507 m/s
>> during the day.
>> So in that case, you would move faster than me during the day,
>> and I would move faster than you during the night.
>> But the Sun isn't stationary, it is moving very fast around
>> the centre of the Milky Way.
> 
> 
> Have you ever heard of the relativity of the movement,
> poor halfbrain?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Which is exactly the point he is gradually making, you noise-making loon.
If it takes a while for you to catch up, perhaps you should keep your mouth
shut for that time until you have caught up. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#464924

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-07-19 10:00 -0700
Message-ID<9999513d-e40f-484b-97de-befd9d359bcb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464919
On Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:48:04 UTC+2, Odd Bodkin  wrote:
> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:24:01 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:
> > 
> >> You are now assuming that the Earth is moving through
> >> space at a speed less than 465 m/s, but the Earth is moving
> >> around the Sun at 30 km/s.
> >> So if the Sun is stationary in space, you maximal speed
> >> through space would be 30465 m/s during the night, and
> >> your minimal speed through space would be 29535 m/s
> >> during the day, while my maximal speed through space would
> >> be 30493 m/s during the night, and my minimal would be 29507 m/s
> >> during the day.
> >> So in that case, you would move faster than me during the day,
> >> and I would move faster than you during the night.
> >> But the Sun isn't stationary, it is moving very fast around
> >> the centre of the Milky Way.
> > 
> > 
> > Have you ever heard of the relativity of the movement,
> > poor halfbrain?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Which is exactly the point he is gradually making,


Quoting:
"But the Sun isn't stationary, it is moving very fast around
the centre of the Milky Way."
Learn to read, poor halfbrain.

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#464920

FromPaparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl>
Date2018-07-19 09:51 -0700
Message-ID<41a932e2-f289-4f31-9073-781c70bfcaf6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464916
El jueves, 19 de julio de 2018, 11:31:00 (UTC-5), mlwo...@wp.pl  escribió:
> On Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:24:01 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:
> 
> > You are now assuming that the Earth is moving through
> > space at a speed less than 465 m/s, but the Earth is moving
> > around the Sun at 30 km/s.
> > So if the Sun is stationary in space, you maximal speed
> > through space would be 30465 m/s during the night, and
> > your minimal speed through space would be 29535 m/s
> > during the day, while my maximal speed through space would
> > be 30493 m/s during the night, and my minimal would be 29507 m/s
> > during the day.
> > So in that case, you would move faster than me during the day,
> > and I would move faster than you during the night.
> > But the Sun isn't stationary, it is moving very fast around
> > the centre of the Milky Way.
> 
> 
> Have you ever heard of the relativity of the movement,
> poor halfbrain?

Have you troll?

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#464925

Frommlwozniak@wp.pl
Date2018-07-19 10:01 -0700
Message-ID<61ff3658-3cd3-4f9d-9997-5a6378c235d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464920
On Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:51:20 UTC+2, Paparios  wrote:
> El jueves, 19 de julio de 2018, 11:31:00 (UTC-5), mlwo...@wp.pl  escribió:
> > On Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:24:01 UTC+2, Paul B. Andersen  wrote:
> > 
> > > You are now assuming that the Earth is moving through
> > > space at a speed less than 465 m/s, but the Earth is moving
> > > around the Sun at 30 km/s.
> > > So if the Sun is stationary in space, you maximal speed
> > > through space would be 30465 m/s during the night, and
> > > your minimal speed through space would be 29535 m/s
> > > during the day, while my maximal speed through space would
> > > be 30493 m/s during the night, and my minimal would be 29507 m/s
> > > during the day.
> > > So in that case, you would move faster than me during the day,
> > > and I would move faster than you during the night.
> > > But the Sun isn't stationary, it is moving very fast around
> > > the centre of the Milky Way.
> > 
> > 
> > Have you ever heard of the relativity of the movement,
> > poor halfbrain?
> 
> Have you troll?


I'm not declaring obedience to this nonsense. He
does.

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#464959

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-07-19 13:30 -0700
Message-ID<9cb37fee-179f-49f4-982e-7f17a917068a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464914
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 11:24:01 AM UTC-5, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> Den 17.07.2018 22.20, skrev Ed Lake:
> > On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 12:17:06 PM UTC-5, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> >> Den 16.07.2018 17.19, skrev Ed Lake:
> >>> On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 9:21:36 AM UTC-5, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> >>>> Den 15.07.2018 22.27, skrev Ed Lake:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PRETENDING that you are stationary doesn't mean you are stationary.  And mathematical models based upon nonsense result in mathematical nonsense.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In no reality is ANYTHING "stationary" in the centrifuge experiment.  EVERYTHING is moving around the center of the Milky Way galaxy at 486,000 miles per hour.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But often one object moves FASTER than another object.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are standing at the side of the road, and I am passing
> >>>> you in my car at 100 mph relative to the road, who is moving fastest?
> >>>
> >>> If you are talking about motion relative to the road, you are moving fastest.
> >>
> >> Pretending that the road is stationary doesn't
> >> mean it is stationary. The road and you are moving,
> >> and so am I, so how do you know that I am moving fastest?
> >>
> >>>
> >>> If you are talking about motion relative to the sun or to the center of the Milky Way galaxy, you need to specify which direction you are traveling relative to the spin of the earth on its axis.
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>
> >> Pretending that the Sun is stationary doesn't
> >> mean it is stationary.
> >> Pretending that the centre of the Milky Way is stationary
> >> doesn't mean it is stationary.
> >>
> >> The road is moving, the Earth is moving, the Sun is moving,
> >> the Milky Way is moving.
> > 
> > Did anyone say otherwise?
> > 
> >>
> >> Neither I nor you are stationary, but often one person
> >> moves FASTER than another person.
> >>
> >> So I am asking you:
> >> If you are standing at the side of the road, and I, in my car,
> >> am passing you at 100 mph in the eastwards direction.
> >> Who is moving fastest?
> > 
> > You are.  When you travel eastward, your speed through space is added to the speed of the earth on its axis at that point.  Since I am not moving relative to the earth, my speed is the same as the earth spinning on its axis.
> 
> You are now assuming that the Earth is moving through
> space at a speed less than 465 m/s, but the Earth is moving
> around the Sun at 30 km/s.
> So if the Sun is stationary in space, you maximal speed
> through space would be 30465 m/s during the night, and
> your minimal speed through space would be 29535 m/s
> during the day, while my maximal speed through space would
> be 30493 m/s during the night, and my minimal would be 29507 m/s
> during the day.
> So in that case, you would move faster than me during the day,
> and I would move faster than you during the night.
> But the Sun isn't stationary, it is moving very fast around
> the centre of the Milky Way.
> And the centre of the milky way isn't stationary, it is
> moving through space.
> 
> So all things considered, who are moving fastest through space?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Paul
> 
> https://paulba.no/

Don't you understand?  If I am stationary relative to the earth, I am moving at the same speed as the earth at that point.  If you are moving eastward, your speed is ADDED TO to the rotating speed of the earth.  So, you are moving faster than me.  And that is true regardless of how the sun moves or how the Milky Way moves.  You will ALWAYS be moving faster than me.  

That is because speed in Relativity (and in our universe) is not measured relative to some arbitrary moving body, it is measured relative to the speed of light, the speed at which time stops.  And any point in space where time ticks at its fastest rate can be considered "stationary."  It does not have to be one single point, like the point where the Big Bang occurred.  It can also be any point that is "stationary" relative to that point.  There are an infinite number of "stationary" points in the universe. 

You are moving at a speed that is closer to the speed of light than my speed.  That can be confirmed by comparing how much slower time passes for you than for me.  It doesn't make any difference how fast or slow anything else is moving.  You will still be moving faster than me.  Period.

Ed   

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#464970

Fromhallstoncliff@gmail.com
Date2018-07-19 16:44 -0700
Message-ID<6b9fe3e4-9677-4533-80b3-436ba7cebf85@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464959
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 1:30:09 PM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote:
> Any point in space where time ticks at its fastest rate can be
> considered "stationary."

The problem with this becomes clear if you consider two rows of clocks in relative motion, such as one row of clocks sitting along an embankment and another row of clocks on a moving train.  (Each row of clocks has been synchronized using the usual physical processes in its frame.)  We find that the readings on each clock on the train advance at a slower rate than the readings on the successive clocks on the embankment as it passes them, BUT we also find that the readings of each clock on the embankment advance at a slower rate than the readings on the successive clocks on the train as they pass it.  So, which clocks are running faster?

> There are an infinite number of "stationary" points in the universe. 

This would usually be expressed by saying that at any point in space there is a unique frame that can be identified as "the rest frame of the big bang", or, more accurately, the frame in which the frequency of the CMBR is maximally isotropic (the same in all directions).  Relative to this frame, the Earth is moving at about 370 km/sec (10% of the speed of light!) in the direction of the constellation Leo.  However, this motion has no detectable effect on local physics.  We find that the same equations of physics apply in any system of inertial coordinates, regardless of how fast it is moving relative to "the rest frame of the big bang".  In particular, light propagates in vacuum at the speed c in terms of any system of inertial coordinates.

> If you are moving eastward, your speed is ADDED TO the rotating speed of the earth.  So, you are moving faster than me.  And that is true regardless of how the sun moves or how the Milky Way moves.

Two points:  First, if you are saying that the true speeds are defined in terms of the rest frame of the big bang, then the slower person is the one moving in the direction opposite the direction of the constellation Leo, so the compass direction depends on the orientation of the Earth at that moment.  Second, its irrelevant, because we know from experiment that all local physical phenomena proceed in the same way in terms of any inertial frame, regardless of its state of motion relative to "the rest frame of the big bang".

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#464975

Fromhallstoncliff@gmail.com
Date2018-07-19 21:17 -0700
Message-ID<1deb33b2-2da6-4ffa-a19e-11ba5b1a98df@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464970
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 4:44:29 PM UTC-7, hallst...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 1:30:09 PM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote:
> moving at about 370 km/sec (10% of the speed of light!) 

Sorry, I meant over 0.1% of the speed of light.

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#464998

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-07-20 08:27 -0700
Message-ID<958bd280-4e66-4cf8-97a0-6510e1a7e992@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464970
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 6:44:29 PM UTC-5, hallst...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 1:30:09 PM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote:
> > Any point in space where time ticks at its fastest rate can be
> > considered "stationary."
> 
> The problem with this becomes clear if you consider two rows of clocks in relative motion, such as one row of clocks sitting along an embankment and another row of clocks on a moving train.  (Each row of clocks has been synchronized using the usual physical processes in its frame.)  We find that the readings on each clock on the train advance at a slower rate than the readings on the successive clocks on the embankment as it passes them, BUT we also find that the readings of each clock on the embankment advance at a slower rate than the readings on the successive clocks on the train as they pass it.  So, which clocks are running faster?

Congratulations!  As a result of your post I have revised my list of the TEN DUMBEST BELIEFS IN PHYSICS: http://oldguynewissues.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-10-dumbest-ideas-in-physics.html

I have moved the idea that all motion is reciprocal from #3 to #1.  The notion that all motion is reciprocal is absurd beyond belief.  

The idea that you can just IMAGINE something and it becomes true is absurd.  You imagine that the embankment is moving and the train is stationary. In reality, the embankment and the train may BOTH be moving, but the embankment will ALWAYS be moving slower than the train.  Only in your FANTASIES can the embankment move faster than the train. 

> 
> > There are an infinite number of "stationary" points in the universe. 
> 
> This would usually be expressed by saying that at any point in space there is a unique frame that can be identified as "the rest frame of the big bang", or, more accurately, the frame in which the frequency of the CMBR is maximally isotropic (the same in all directions).  Relative to this frame, the Earth is moving at about 370 km/sec (0.1% of the speed of light!) in the direction of the constellation Leo.  However, this motion has no detectable effect on local physics.  We find that the same equations of physics apply in any system of inertial coordinates, regardless of how fast it is moving relative to "the rest frame of the big bang".  In particular, light propagates in vacuum at the speed c in terms of any system of inertial coordinates.
> 
> > If you are moving eastward, your speed is ADDED TO the rotating speed of the earth.  So, you are moving faster than me.  And that is true regardless of how the sun moves or how the Milky Way moves.
> 
> Two points:  First, if you are saying that the true speeds are defined in terms of the rest frame of the big bang, then the slower person is the one moving in the direction opposite the direction of the constellation Leo, so the compass direction depends on the orientation of the Earth at that moment.  Second, its irrelevant, because we know from experiment that all local physical phenomena proceed in the same way in terms of any inertial frame, regardless of its state of motion relative to "the rest frame of the big bang".

No, I am NOT saying that "true speeds are defined in terms of the rest frame of the Big Bang."  I am saying that true speeds are defined in terms of their relationship to THE SPEED OF LIGHT.  Everything moves at a (typically small) percentage of the speed of light.  In theory, the point of the Big Bang is where time ticks at its fastest rate, and therefore it can be considered "stationary," since everything moves faster than that point.  HOWEVER, in there can be one such point, there can be an INFINITE number of points in the universe that are "stationary" relative to the point where the Big Bang occurred.  All movement is relative to ALL those points.  Thus, it is invalid to say that "the slower person is the one moving in the direction opposite the direction of the constellation Leo."  

There is no direction to velocity when it is related to the speed of light.  

A mathematician can compute a speed relative to some object, but that is just the speed relative to that object.  It is NOT the speed relative to the speed of light - the only true measurement of speed in our universe.

Ed   

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#465000

From"Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net>
Date2018-07-20 09:34 -0700
Message-ID<ae1ecfb0-2314-48d6-874e-f4c8f3b268fe@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464998
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 8:27:05 AM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote:
>
> I have moved the idea that all motion is reciprocal from #3 to #1.  The notion that all motion is reciprocal is absurd beyond belief.  
> 


Does your family know? Haven't they committed you already? 

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#465003

FromPaparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl>
Date2018-07-20 09:40 -0700
Message-ID<7d4b2a30-10b8-4e92-b6f8-44a3982e06c3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#464998
El viernes, 20 de julio de 2018, 10:27:05 (UTC-5), Ed Lake  escribió:
> On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 6:44:29 PM UTC-5, hallst...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 1:30:09 PM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote:
> > > Any point in space where time ticks at its fastest rate can be
> > > considered "stationary."
> > 
> > The problem with this becomes clear if you consider two rows of clocks in relative motion, such as one row of clocks sitting along an embankment and another row of clocks on a moving train.  (Each row of clocks has been synchronized using the usual physical processes in its frame.)  We find that the readings on each clock on the train advance at a slower rate than the readings on the successive clocks on the embankment as it passes them, BUT we also find that the readings of each clock on the embankment advance at a slower rate than the readings on the successive clocks on the train as they pass it.  So, which clocks are running faster?
> 
> Congratulations!  As a result of your post I have revised my list of the TEN DUMBEST BELIEFS IN PHYSICS: http://oldguynewissues.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-10-dumbest-ideas-in-physics.html
> 
> I have moved the idea that all motion is reciprocal from #3 to #1.  The notion that all motion is reciprocal is absurd beyond belief.  
> 
> The idea that you can just IMAGINE something and it becomes true is absurd.  You imagine that the embankment is moving and the train is stationary. In reality, the embankment and the train may BOTH be moving, but the embankment will ALWAYS be moving slower than the train.  Only in your FANTASIES can the embankment move faster than the train. 
> 

But, as usual when you read, that is not what he was talking about!!

When comparing the readings of a moving clock with  the reading of a stationary
clock, you have the problem that the moving clock only stays colocated with
the stationary clock for a very short period of time. Just imagine a clock
moving at 0.6c, that is 180,000 km/sec. In 1 milisecond the clock moves 180 km!!

So, for making a valid reading you need to set up several Einstein synchronized
clocks along the path the moving clock follows, like the diagram below:

Moving to the right Clocks Ai

(A1)....(A2)....(A3)....(A4)....(A5)....(A6) --> v=0.6c

(B1)....(B2)....(B3)....(B4)....(B5)....(B6)

Stationary Synchronized clocks Bi

So, in the very short period of time when clock A1 is colocated with everyone of 
the clocks Bi, the clocks Bi can observe the succesive readings of clock A1, as 
it passes by the Bi clock.

At the end of the experiment, the collected data from all the clocks Bi will
indicate the succesive measured readings of clock A1 were slower than the
readings of the synchronized clocks Bi.

The second part is measuring all this from the point of view of the clock A1.
For the clock A1, all the clocks Bi are moving to the left also at 0.6c, and
the measuring problem is the same, ie, the clocks Bi do not stay by the location
of clock A enough to measure a set of readings.

The solution is to, again, set up several Einstein synchronized clocks in the
clock A frame of reference, like the figure below:

Stationary Syncronized Clocks Ai

              (A1)....(A2)....(A3)....(A4)....(A5)....(A6)

<--0.6c       (B1)....(B2)....(B3)....(B4)....(B5)....(B6)

moving to the left Synchronized clocks  Bi

So, for instance, clock B6 will succesively pass through the location of clock A6, then A5, then A4, etc.

At the end of the experiment, the collected data from all the clocks Ai will
indicate the succesive measured readings of clock B6 were slower than the
readings of the synchronized clocks Ai.

This is what special relativity says.

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#465019

FromWayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd>
Date2018-07-20 18:30 +0000
Message-ID<pit9oo$28k$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#465003
Paparios wrote:

> When comparing the readings of a moving clock with  the reading of a
> stationary clock, you have the problem that the moving clock only stays
> colocated with the stationary clock for a very short period of time.

Of course not. The co-location is a point on the time axis, which is 
infinitely smaller than your "very short period of time". Just rethink.

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#465042

FromEd Lake <detect@newsguy.com>
Date2018-07-20 13:06 -0700
Message-ID<a7636326-bb6c-47e3-be3c-2640a4d59f7d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465003
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 11:41:03 AM UTC-5, Paparios wrote:
> El viernes, 20 de julio de 2018, 10:27:05 (UTC-5), Ed Lake  escribió:
> > On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 6:44:29 PM UTC-5, hallst...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 1:30:09 PM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote:
> > > > Any point in space where time ticks at its fastest rate can be
> > > > considered "stationary."
> > > 
> > > The problem with this becomes clear if you consider two rows of clocks in relative motion, such as one row of clocks sitting along an embankment and another row of clocks on a moving train.  (Each row of clocks has been synchronized using the usual physical processes in its frame.)  We find that the readings on each clock on the train advance at a slower rate than the readings on the successive clocks on the embankment as it passes them, BUT we also find that the readings of each clock on the embankment advance at a slower rate than the readings on the successive clocks on the train as they pass it.  So, which clocks are running faster?
> > 
> > Congratulations!  As a result of your post I have revised my list of the TEN DUMBEST BELIEFS IN PHYSICS: http://oldguynewissues.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-10-dumbest-ideas-in-physics.html
> > 
> > I have moved the idea that all motion is reciprocal from #3 to #1.  The notion that all motion is reciprocal is absurd beyond belief.  
> > 
> > The idea that you can just IMAGINE something and it becomes true is absurd.  You imagine that the embankment is moving and the train is stationary. In reality, the embankment and the train may BOTH be moving, but the embankment will ALWAYS be moving slower than the train.  Only in your FANTASIES can the embankment move faster than the train. 
> > 
> 
> But, as usual when you read, that is not what he was talking about!!
> 
> When comparing the readings of a moving clock with  the reading of a stationary
> clock, you have the problem that the moving clock only stays colocated with
> the stationary clock for a very short period of time. Just imagine a clock
> moving at 0.6c, that is 180,000 km/sec. In 1 milisecond the clock moves 180 km!!
> 
> So, for making a valid reading you need to set up several Einstein synchronized
> clocks along the path the moving clock follows, like the diagram below:
> 
> Moving to the right Clocks Ai
> 
> (A1)....(A2)....(A3)....(A4)....(A5)....(A6) --> v=0.6c
> 
> (B1)....(B2)....(B3)....(B4)....(B5)....(B6)
> 
> Stationary Synchronized clocks Bi
> 
> So, in the very short period of time when clock A1 is colocated with everyone of 
> the clocks Bi, the clocks Bi can observe the succesive readings of clock A1, as 
> it passes by the Bi clock.
> 
> At the end of the experiment, the collected data from all the clocks Bi will
> indicate the succesive measured readings of clock A1 were slower than the
> readings of the synchronized clocks Bi.
> 
> The second part is measuring all this from the point of view of the clock A1.
> For the clock A1, all the clocks Bi are moving to the left also at 0.6c, and
> the measuring problem is the same, ie, the clocks Bi do not stay by the location
> of clock A enough to measure a set of readings.
> 
> The solution is to, again, set up several Einstein synchronized clocks in the
> clock A frame of reference, like the figure below:
> 
> Stationary Syncronized Clocks Ai
> 
>               (A1)....(A2)....(A3)....(A4)....(A5)....(A6)
> 
> <--0.6c       (B1)....(B2)....(B3)....(B4)....(B5)....(B6)
> 
> moving to the left Synchronized clocks  Bi
> 
> So, for instance, clock B6 will succesively pass through the location of clock A6, then A5, then A4, etc.
> 
> At the end of the experiment, the collected data from all the clocks Ai will
> indicate the succesive measured readings of clock B6 were slower than the
> readings of the synchronized clocks Ai.
> 
> This is what special relativity says.

Your argument is just mathematical gibberish to me.  I can't figure out what you are trying to accomplish.  It certainly has nothing to do with Einstein's theories.  At it still looks like reciprocal motion.  

The clock that moves the fastest relative to the speed of light is the clock that ticks the slowest.  Period.

Ed

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