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| Started by | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2018-07-13 10:10 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-07-31 21:25 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 694 — 40 participants |
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A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 10:10 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 10:53 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:09 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 11:05 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 12:55 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-22 18:15 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 12:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 13:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 14:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 09:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment KronosPrime@outlook.com - 2018-07-27 13:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 13:45 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:01 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:14 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 09:37 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 19:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@dwipdn.dv> - 2018-07-29 14:47 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 12:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 12:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-13 13:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 13:26 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-13 15:22 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-13 13:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-13 14:30 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 09:39 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-14 10:07 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 10:41 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-14 11:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 12:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-14 13:10 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 13:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 13:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-14 13:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-14 23:20 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-14 15:10 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 11:34 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 13:08 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 18:07 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-15 10:44 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 05:45 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-15 15:32 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-15 15:33 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 06:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-15 09:40 -0400
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 07:05 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-15 10:15 -0400
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 07:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 19:14 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 09:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 09:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 12:48 -0400
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 10:35 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 17:51 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 18:17 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 10:02 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-15 10:54 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 13:05 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-15 20:19 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-15 17:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:12 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-22 18:03 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 23:19 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-22 21:35 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 09:53 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-23 17:05 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 19:44 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-27 12:04 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-23 14:59 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 09:18 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 12:59 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 13:50 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 14:19 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 14:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 18:04 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-16 10:34 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 04:17 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-16 13:09 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 12:07 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:10 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 10:02 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 13:13 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-16 14:33 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-16 23:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-17 10:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 10:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 18:02 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-14 22:30 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 10:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-15 11:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 13:08 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-15 20:16 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 18:23 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-20 10:57 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-13 15:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-13 22:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 10:11 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-14 10:34 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-14 10:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-14 10:54 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 10:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-20 11:14 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 11:46 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 11:54 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:32 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:35 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-20 13:47 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-20 23:29 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:30 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-21 13:45 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-13 22:34 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 09:15 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-14 23:26 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 00:18 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-15 01:17 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-15 11:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 05:49 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 09:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 17:21 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-16 08:59 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-16 09:54 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-22 17:57 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 03:12 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 02:28 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-14 10:33 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-16 10:07 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:24 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-16 08:40 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 22:58 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-17 17:33 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 18:02 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-23 10:37 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-24 00:36 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-14 00:40 -0400
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-14 00:11 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-14 15:05 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-15 20:05 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-15 13:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-15 20:28 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 14:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-15 23:23 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 14:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 14:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-16 00:09 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-15 16:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-15 16:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:00 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-16 08:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-15 14:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-15 18:36 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 16:55 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-16 16:21 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-16 08:19 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-17 19:17 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 10:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 17:50 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 17:56 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 11:07 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 18:16 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 11:46 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 19:31 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 13:47 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:01 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-17 11:34 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-17 13:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-19 18:23 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 09:30 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 16:48 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 10:00 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-19 09:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 10:01 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-19 13:30 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 16:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 21:17 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 08:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-20 09:34 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-20 09:40 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 18:30 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-20 13:18 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-20 13:21 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 13:23 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-22 15:45 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 08:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-23 09:19 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-20 16:50 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 14:55 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 23:46 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-20 16:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-21 09:23 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-21 18:51 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 17:15 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-21 19:36 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-22 00:15 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 08:56 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-22 13:00 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 22:34 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-22 14:11 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-22 23:17 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-24 11:19 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 03:21 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 07:33 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 15:03 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-24 11:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 13:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-24 14:29 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 20:49 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 21:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 09:19 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 13:47 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:14 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 13:12 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 08:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-25 10:25 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 09:49 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-26 09:42 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:47 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-27 10:38 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 08:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 09:40 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 18:56 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 13:18 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 21:02 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 09:24 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:14 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-28 10:58 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 12:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-29 09:41 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 13:15 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-30 10:16 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 09:03 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 09:10 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 09:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-31 11:36 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-31 12:10 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-30 17:40 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 14:31 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-30 14:49 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 08:33 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-31 08:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 15:55 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:46 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:57 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 10:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 14:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-31 14:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:03 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 15:14 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 09:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 16:28 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 14:44 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-08-01 13:03 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 15:54 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 00:03 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-31 13:30 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 14:07 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-31 16:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 11:34 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-09 23:12 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-10 22:05 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Lovu Biftek <ufeli@fupuks.cl> - 2018-08-12 13:52 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-16 15:05 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-16 15:17 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-17 10:24 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-31 17:05 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 09:03 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-01 16:24 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 19:26 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 11:03 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 14:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 16:45 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:46 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 09:03 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 21:38 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 18:38 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-08-02 12:31 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-08-02 11:10 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 05:13 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 14:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-01 14:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-30 22:22 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 08:53 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 05:02 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 09:09 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-08-01 20:29 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-31 10:52 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-08-01 11:39 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 09:10 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-08-02 09:20 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-22 14:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 08:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-23 09:00 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-22 23:13 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 07:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 09:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-23 10:29 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-23 23:58 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 15:19 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 00:23 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 00:25 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-23 16:05 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 16:33 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-23 21:38 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-24 09:34 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 16:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:33 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 20:37 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-21 19:21 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 10:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 09:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-20 14:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 21:42 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 15:09 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 23:33 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 22:31 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:17 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 08:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:45 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 08:49 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-21 08:54 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:53 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 22:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-22 12:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-22 23:01 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 14:14 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 11:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 18:45 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 12:00 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 19:05 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 14:23 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-22 20:34 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:35 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 12:23 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:48 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:48 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-27 11:59 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 12:24 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 13:38 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:19 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-20 21:00 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 12:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-20 14:38 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:19 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 20:11 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-21 10:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-21 19:29 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-21 12:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-22 00:23 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-22 12:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-22 14:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-22 14:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 08:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-23 17:52 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-23 09:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 10:00 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-23 14:53 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 00:01 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-23 15:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 07:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 07:35 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-24 08:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 08:53 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 16:39 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 18:55 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-24 17:19 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 10:24 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 13:41 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-24 13:49 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:14 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 13:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-24 14:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 14:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-24 23:31 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:38 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-24 14:40 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 08:17 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-25 08:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 17:38 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 08:49 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 18:09 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:56 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-25 16:34 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 13:26 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:01 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-26 00:16 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 07:18 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendm.dp> - 2018-07-26 14:52 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 18:36 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:37 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwendn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:21 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 14:37 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <ulau@ydwindn.dp> - 2018-07-26 21:51 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-26 13:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-24 15:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 08:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-25 08:35 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 17:35 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:56 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-25 09:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 11:53 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 13:31 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:12 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 19:38 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 11:18 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 11:47 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 21:04 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 13:33 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-26 00:07 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 21:15 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 09:18 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 13:02 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-25 14:34 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 14:48 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 15:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-25 21:14 -0400
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 01:23 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:23 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-25 21:29 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 07:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-26 07:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2018-07-26 10:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:24 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 17:29 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-26 10:28 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 13:02 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 17:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 10:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:35 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 13:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:57 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 06:38 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 16:50 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:17 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 17:49 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 11:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 11:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 11:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 14:01 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 08:29 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 09:29 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 09:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 18:58 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 22:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 23:38 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 14:00 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 10:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 16:12 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 08:15 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 19:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:41 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:10 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-24 22:13 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 09:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-25 18:14 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-25 09:24 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 12:29 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:00 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 15:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 08:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 09:59 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:23 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:23 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:17 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 07:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:39 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-27 02:10 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 17:01 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:20 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:26 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:13 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 14:30 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-26 14:37 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 13:13 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 13:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:05 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:08 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 14:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 14:17 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 15:19 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 00:46 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 07:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 17:03 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 08:41 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 09:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:37 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 08:47 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 09:39 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 11:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 13:12 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 14:01 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-27 23:37 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:44 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-27 21:49 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 09:21 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 10:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 13:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 18:46 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 12:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 13:09 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 14:14 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 15:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 08:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 10:11 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 10:35 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 13:40 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 14:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-30 15:39 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 23:50 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 15:50 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 00:21 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-30 12:59 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 07:59 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 08:40 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 09:11 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 09:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 10:49 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 13:02 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 14:01 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 22:03 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-31 22:03 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 18:41 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 18:48 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 18:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-02 11:21 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 13:02 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-02 21:18 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 14:30 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-02 22:25 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 16:13 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-04 14:02 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 05:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 06:24 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 09:46 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 10:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 14:46 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-30 15:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-30 15:56 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-30 16:05 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 14:48 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ecký Zcitná <ifmv@bsimdo.ac> - 2018-08-01 15:27 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 08:34 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:23 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 17:25 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 23:48 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:22 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-31 13:18 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 13:12 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-31 16:29 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-01 08:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-31 14:05 -0700
QED and photons (was: Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-01 11:20 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-28 14:46 -0700
Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-27 13:15 -0500
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 11:36 -0700
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 15:01 -0700
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-27 15:12 -0700
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-29 10:21 -0500
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Wayne Dial <ulau@dwipdn.dv> - 2018-07-29 16:28 +0000
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 18:51 +0200
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Wayne Dial <ulau@dwbpdn.dv> - 2018-07-29 18:57 +0000
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 21:01 +0200
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Wayne Dial <ulau@dvbpdn.dv> - 2018-07-29 19:23 +0000
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 10:02 -0700
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-29 20:20 +0200
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 12:37 -0700
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 13:07 -0700
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 13:27 -0700
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-29 10:40 -0500
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 10:28 -0700
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 11:46 -0500
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 12:54 -0700
Re: Falling objects in GR (was Re: A suggested time dilation experiment) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 22:27 -0500
Re: Falling objects in GR Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-28 15:58 +0200
Re: Falling objects in GR SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-29 18:01 +1000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:28 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 13:42 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-27 21:10 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 09:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 14:59 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 21:48 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-28 10:22 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 08:33 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-30 14:35 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 23:43 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 10:12 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 11:06 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 13:35 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 19:16 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 12:48 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment hallstoncliff@gmail.com - 2018-07-29 13:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-28 12:55 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-29 22:13 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 00:23 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 10:54 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 18:05 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-24 13:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-24 13:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 21:14 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 13:53 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 10:23 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 12:11 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 12:39 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-25 14:07 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 14:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-25 14:51 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:44 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 10:05 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 19:19 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-22 18:53 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:14 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-21 15:58 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-21 11:05 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 02:36 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-21 11:47 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-21 04:41 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-21 15:01 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:19 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 03:38 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-19 17:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-07-21 11:44 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-21 05:27 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2018-07-21 14:34 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 20:43 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 16:50 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 17:04 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:47 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-17 22:51 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 15:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-18 23:51 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 13:52 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-20 18:54 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 12:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-21 13:16 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 11:20 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 21:32 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-16 10:17 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Otto Snook <uot@wuoluo.uc> - 2018-07-18 17:49 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-19 02:45 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Wayne Dial <uluuuau@ydwnwedml.dd> - 2018-07-19 12:40 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-19 20:20 +0200
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 09:18 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2018-07-13 14:54 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-07-23 14:54 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mgilady@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 23:19 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-07-25 23:59 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-25 23:34 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 09:34 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-26 13:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-26 14:29 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-26 14:40 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-26 21:53 +0000
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-27 07:38 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:13 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-29 13:25 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-29 14:30 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-29 15:13 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-30 07:12 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-30 22:12 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2018-07-31 09:04 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-31 13:15 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-31 13:07 -0700
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-07-31 15:52 -0500
Re: A suggested time dilation experiment mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-31 21:25 -0700
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-16 08:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <45e59597-91e9-41bf-ad5e-0fb71c3d09da@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464500 |
On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 6:05:06 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > On 7/15/18 3:50 PM, Ed Lake wrote: > > It is about gravitational TIME DILATION. [...] > > If you want to measure gravitational "time dilation", then you must > perform an experiment that depends on it. The centrifuge does not. > > SPINNING IS NOT GRAVITATION. > > Tom Roberts It's equivalent. Ed
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| From | Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-16 10:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <104b48f4-8598-4305-aee9-da92bef4be9f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464538 |
On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 11:10:12 AM UTC-4, Ed Lake wrote: > On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 6:05:06 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > On 7/15/18 3:50 PM, Ed Lake wrote: > > > It is about gravitational TIME DILATION. [...] > > > > If you want to measure gravitational "time dilation", then you must > > perform an experiment that depends on it. The centrifuge does not. > > > > SPINNING IS NOT GRAVITATION. > > > > Tom Roberts > > It's equivalent. > > Ed No it is not. Let's see if you understand Wikipedia's phrasing of the Equivalence Principle: "In the theory of general relativity, the equivalence principle is any of several related concepts dealing with the equivalence of gravitational and inertial mass," IOW, it has nothing to do with the equivalence of accelerated motion and gravity. Ed
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-16 13:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c289ee42-851d-4c87-afc3-16b518bfb8d5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464562 |
On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 12:02:34 PM UTC-5, Edward Prochak wrote: > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 11:10:12 AM UTC-4, Ed Lake wrote: > > On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 6:05:06 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > > On 7/15/18 3:50 PM, Ed Lake wrote: > > > > It is about gravitational TIME DILATION. [...] > > > > > > If you want to measure gravitational "time dilation", then you must > > > perform an experiment that depends on it. The centrifuge does not. > > > > > > SPINNING IS NOT GRAVITATION. > > > > > > Tom Roberts > > > > It's equivalent. > > > > Ed > > No it is not. Let's see if you understand Wikipedia's phrasing > of the Equivalence Principle: > "In the theory of general relativity, the equivalence principle > is any of several related concepts dealing with the equivalence > of gravitational and inertial mass," > > IOW, it has nothing to do with the equivalence of > accelerated motion and gravity. > Ed "Equivalence Principle is a basic postulate of general relativity, stating that at any point of space-time the effects of a gravitational field cannot be experimentally distinguished from those due to an accelerated frame of reference." Source: https://medium.com/@GatotSoedarto/use-equivalence-principle-and-youll-look-like-einstein-s-happiest-thought-f82c79917173
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| From | Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-16 14:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a946c0b4-eca3-4fc7-89ac-e6d1fd0b2290@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464581 |
On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-6, Ed Lake wrote: > > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 12:02:34 PM UTC-5, Edward Prochak wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 11:10:12 AM UTC-4, Ed Lake wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 6:05:06 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > > > > > > > SPINNING IS NOT GRAVITATION. > > > > > > > > Tom Roberts > > > > > > It's equivalent. > > > > > > Ed > > > > No it is not. Let's see if you understand Wikipedia's phrasing > > of the Equivalence Principle: > > "In the theory of general relativity, the equivalence principle > > is any of several related concepts dealing with the equivalence > > of gravitational and inertial mass," > > > > IOW, it has nothing to do with the equivalence of > > accelerated motion and gravity. > > Ed > > "Equivalence Principle is a basic postulate of general relativity, stating > that at any point of space-time the effects of a gravitational field cannot > be experimentally distinguished from those due to an accelerated frame of > reference." > > Source: https://medium.com/@GatotSoedarto/use-equivalence-principle-and-youll-look-like-einstein-s-happiest-thought-f82c79917173 But measuring time dilation requires clocks at TWO DIFFERENT points. What you quoted was valid only for a SINGLE point.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-16 23:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B4D9211.68E2@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #464589 |
Gary Harnagel wrote: > > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-6, Ed Lake wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 12:02:34 PM UTC-5, Edward Prochak wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 11:10:12 AM UTC-4, Ed Lake wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 6:05:06 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > SPINNING IS NOT GRAVITATION. > > > > > > > > > > Tom Roberts > > > > > > > > It's equivalent. > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > No it is not. Let's see if you understand Wikipedia's phrasing > > > of the Equivalence Principle: > > > "In the theory of general relativity, the equivalence principle > > > is any of several related concepts dealing with the equivalence > > > of gravitational and inertial mass," > > > > > > IOW, it has nothing to do with the equivalence of > > > accelerated motion and gravity. > > > Ed > > > > "Equivalence Principle is a basic postulate of general relativity, stating > > that at any point of space-time the effects of a gravitational field cannot > > be experimentally distinguished from those due to an accelerated frame of > > reference." > > > > Source: https://medium.com/@GatotSoedarto/use-equivalence-principle-and-youll-look-like-einstein-s-happiest-thought-f82c79917173 > > But measuring time dilation requires clocks at TWO DIFFERENT points. > What you quoted was valid only for a SINGLE point. You can measure time dilation at 2 different points with two clocks...but you cannot measure 'when' the time dilation...occurs.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-17 10:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B4E2548.63CF@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #464604 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Gary Harnagel wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-6, Ed Lake wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 12:02:34 PM UTC-5, Edward Prochak wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 11:10:12 AM UTC-4, Ed Lake wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 6:05:06 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SPINNING IS NOT GRAVITATION. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Roberts > > > > > > > > > > It's equivalent. > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > No it is not. Let's see if you understand Wikipedia's phrasing > > > > of the Equivalence Principle: > > > > "In the theory of general relativity, the equivalence principle > > > > is any of several related concepts dealing with the equivalence > > > > of gravitational and inertial mass," > > > > > > > > IOW, it has nothing to do with the equivalence of > > > > accelerated motion and gravity. > > > > Ed > > > > > > "Equivalence Principle is a basic postulate of general relativity, stating > > > that at any point of space-time the effects of a gravitational field cannot > > > be experimentally distinguished from those due to an accelerated frame of > > > reference." > > > > > > Source: https://medium.com/@GatotSoedarto/use-equivalence-principle-and-youll-look-like-einstein-s-happiest-thought-f82c79917173 > > > > But measuring time dilation requires clocks at TWO DIFFERENT points. > > What you quoted was valid only for a SINGLE point. > > You can measure time dilation at 2 different points with two clocks...but you cannot measure 'when' the time dilation...occurs. Now, if I'm in a traveling train carrying one clock and I walk forward while the train is traveling at superspeeds.. even though I'm walking forward... i'm still stationary. What do i measure?
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| From | Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-17 10:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9a1d65e7-a59c-438f-87b8-95f62514ffac@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464650 |
On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 12:20:12 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > Now, if I'm in a traveling train > carrying one clock > and I walk forward > while the train is > traveling at superspeeds.. > even though > I'm walking forward... > i'm still stationary. > > What do i measure? Oedipus' answer to the Sphinx was a human being, since a human being walks on all fours as an infant, on two legs as an adult, and uses a walking stick in old age. :-)
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2018-07-15 18:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <AbednXMMJqvxT9bGnZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #464441 |
On 7/15/18 12:02 PM, Ed Lake wrote: > You misunderstand the experiment. If they can tell the difference in > tick rates for an atomic clock that is just 1 foot higher than > another atomic clock, where the difference in gravity is something > like 1G versus 0.9999999995Gs, then they certainly can tell the > difference in clock tick rates when one clock is subjected to 1G > while a clock nearby is subjected to 20Gs. But "they" cannot perform an experiment -- that requires real people, not your unspecified pronoun. The clocks you allude to will not fit into the centrifuge, and will not operate at 20 g. > On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 8:17:56 PM UTC-5, hallst...@gmail.com > wrote: >> Also, time dilation is NOT due to difference in acceleration or >> weight, it is proportional to the amount of work needed to lift an >> object from one location to the other. The centrifuge has 20g >> acceleration at the end, but the arm is only 29 feet long, so it >> wouldn't take much work to "raise" an object from the end to the >> center (where there is no centrifugal time dilation at all). By >> comparison, in Hafele-Keating there is only about 1g acceleration >> but the planes are over 30,000 ft up, so the work to lift an object >> is FAR greater. That's why the time dilation in Hafele-Keating is >> MUCH greater than for this centrifuge. > > At 1G I weigh 160 pounds. At 2Gs I weigh 360 pounds. At 3Gs I weigh > 540 pounds. Etc. At 20Gs I would weigh 3,200 pounds. And you think > it would not require any more work to lift 160 pounds than 3,200 > pounds? Really? YOU REALLY NEED TO LEARN HOW TO READ. He did NOT say that at all. He essentially said that 30000ft * 1g is far greater than 29ft * 20g. You also need to learn how to do arithmetic. And how to THINK. > Evidently, the textbooks are about different speeds along different > points along the centrifuge arm, NOT about comparing gravitational > and velocity time dilation at the end of the centrifuge to time shown > by a clock that is NOT ON the centrifuge. For the centrifuge, THERE IS NO GRAVITATIONAL "TIME DILATION" (when comparing to a lab clock at the same altitude relative to earth). SPINNING IS NOT GRAVITATION. > [... further confusions omitted] Tom Roberts
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2018-07-14 22:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <gKednTOOLYBAItfGnZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #464349 |
On 7/14/18 11:39 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > [about his suggested experiment] > The clocks that were spun are then compared to the control clock that > was not spun. The clocks that were spun will show that they ticked > slower while moving. No, they won't. You keep getting this wrong. They will have ticked fewer times, but this says NOTHING AT ALL about their tick rate. Their tick rate is COMPLETELY UNAFFECTED. > The difference may only be a few nanoseconds, 0.93 ns. > but it should be measurable since it was measurable in the > Hafele-Keating Experiment. You REALLY should read about that experiment. Their clocks showed differences at least a hundred times larger, and would have been COMPLETELY UNABLE to measure a difference of 0.92 ns. Their clocks would also cease operating at 20 g. Tom Roberts
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-15 10:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <298acc26-ff43-4216-b35b-59c971c624c0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464390 |
On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 10:30:43 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > On 7/14/18 11:39 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > > [about his suggested experiment] > > The clocks that were spun are then compared to the control clock that > > was not spun. The clocks that were spun will show that they ticked > > slower while moving. > > No, they won't. You keep getting this wrong. They will have ticked fewer > times, but this says NOTHING AT ALL about their tick rate. Their tick > rate is COMPLETELY UNAFFECTED. So, if a moving clock ticks fewer times than a stationary clock during a given period of time, their tick rate is "unaffected"? The only way I can make sense of that is if you are saying that the stationary clock and the moving clock BOTH tick 9,192,631,770 times per second (their tick rate). And you are saying that if one clock accumulates more ticks during a period of time (such as a second), the tick rate remains the same. Yes, but the point is that the moving clock will accumulate FEWER ticks EVEN THOUGH the tick rates were the same. Why? Because both clocks MEASURE one second as being 9,192,631,770 ticks REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG A SECOND REALLY IS. > > > The difference may only be a few nanoseconds, > > 0.93 ns. > > > but it should be measurable since it was measurable in the > > Hafele-Keating Experiment. > > You REALLY should read about that experiment. Their clocks showed > differences at least a hundred times larger, and would have been > COMPLETELY UNABLE to measure a difference of 0.92 ns. > > Their clocks would also cease operating at 20 g. > > Tom Roberts You should really read about the Hafele-Keating experiment. I can send you a copy of their papers, if you need them. The difference in gravity at ground level versus 30,000 feet is like comparing 1G to 0.9999Gs. In the centrifuge experiment, the comparison is between 1G and 20Gs. If there is any concern about atomic clocks not working at 20Gs, they can perform experiments at 2Gs, 3Gs, 4Gs, etc., etc., until they start having problems. Then they can identify the nature of the problem to see if it can be eliminated. Meanwhile, all the lower G comparisons will still have been valid experiments and valid tests of gravitational time dilation combined with velocity time dilation. I just used 20Gs because that is the maximum speed of the Ames centrifuge. Ed
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| From | Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> |
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| Date | 2018-07-15 11:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <eed6c4d6-bd17-4e8d-90fd-9782210f5974@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464444 |
El domingo, 15 de julio de 2018, 12:27:43 (UTC-5), Ed Lake escribió: > On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 10:30:43 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > On 7/14/18 11:39 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > > > [about his suggested experiment] > > > The clocks that were spun are then compared to the control clock that > > > was not spun. The clocks that were spun will show that they ticked > > > slower while moving. > > > > No, they won't. You keep getting this wrong. They will have ticked fewer > > times, but this says NOTHING AT ALL about their tick rate. Their tick > > rate is COMPLETELY UNAFFECTED. > > So, if a moving clock ticks fewer times than a stationary clock during a given period of time, their tick rate is "unaffected"? > Yes and we have been telling you for months now. The only thing that is affected is the elapsed time the clocks show, because each clock is following a different path or trajectory from its starting point to its end point and, similarly to an odometer, the elapsed times shown are different. > The only way I can make sense of that is if you are saying that the stationary clock and the moving clock BOTH tick 9,192,631,770 times per second (their tick rate). And you are saying that if one clock accumulates more ticks during a period of time (such as a second), the tick rate remains the same. > That is correct, as each clock follows a different path to get to it final destination. > Yes, but the point is that the moving clock will accumulate FEWER ticks EVEN THOUGH the tick rates were the same. Why? Because both clocks MEASURE one second as being 9,192,631,770 ticks REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG A SECOND REALLY IS. > Nonsense....this is just geometry (see a map showing highways from Chicago to New York). > > You should really read about the Hafele-Keating experiment. I can send you a copy of their papers, if you need them. The difference in gravity at ground level versus 30,000 feet is like comparing 1G to 0.9999Gs. In the centrifuge experiment, the comparison is between 1G and 20Gs. > We all have read Hafele and Keating papers. It appears that you have not read them.
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-15 13:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <54bb403e-b4da-4f0a-8929-ec92a7fe52c7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464448 |
On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 1:04:25 PM UTC-5, Paparios wrote: > El domingo, 15 de julio de 2018, 12:27:43 (UTC-5), Ed Lake escribió: > > On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 10:30:43 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: > > > On 7/14/18 11:39 AM, Ed Lake wrote: > > > > [about his suggested experiment] > > > > The clocks that were spun are then compared to the control clock that > > > > was not spun. The clocks that were spun will show that they ticked > > > > slower while moving. > > > > > > No, they won't. You keep getting this wrong. They will have ticked fewer > > > times, but this says NOTHING AT ALL about their tick rate. Their tick > > > rate is COMPLETELY UNAFFECTED. > > > > So, if a moving clock ticks fewer times than a stationary clock during a given period of time, their tick rate is "unaffected"? > > > > Yes and we have been telling you for months now. The only thing that is affected > is the elapsed time the clocks show, because each clock is following a different > path or trajectory from its starting point to its end point and, similarly to > an odometer, the elapsed times shown are different. You are talking about MATHEMATICAL MODELS. I am talking about what happens in our REAL universe. Ed
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| From | Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> |
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| Date | 2018-07-15 20:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <piga35$ld5$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #464466 |
Ed Lake wrote: >> Yes and we have been telling you for months now. The only thing that is >> affected is the elapsed time the clocks show, because each clock is >> following a different path or trajectory from its starting point to its >> end point and, similarly to an odometer, the elapsed times shown are >> different. > > You are talking about MATHEMATICAL MODELS. I am talking about what > happens in our REAL universe. https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2016/06/22/Photos/ZH/MW-EP905_elonmu_20160622141203_ZH.jpg
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2018-07-15 18:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <BoednaAXl4bzStbGnZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #464444 |
On 7/15/18 12:27 PM, Ed Lake wrote: > On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 10:30:43 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: >> On 7/14/18 11:39 AM, Ed Lake wrote: >>> [about his suggested experiment] The clocks that were spun are >>> then compared to the control clock that was not spun. The clocks >>> that were spun will show that they ticked slower while moving. >> No, they won't. You keep getting this wrong. They will have ticked >> fewer times, but this says NOTHING AT ALL about their tick rate. >> Their tick rate is COMPLETELY UNAFFECTED. > > So, if a moving clock ticks fewer times than a stationary clock > during a given period of time, their tick rate is "unaffected"? Yes. > The only way I can make sense of that is [...] YOUR GUESSES ARE WRONG. The centrifuge clock travels a helical path through spacetime, while the lab clock travels a straight-line (inertial) path through spacetime. These paths are manifestly different, and they differ in elapsed proper time by 0.93 ns for this experiment. This experiment does NOT measure gravitational "time dilation" [#], it is an implementation of the twin paradox and measures the difference in elapsed proper times over different paths through spacetime. Bailey et al did a MUCH better version of this, storing muons at 0.9994 c in a storage ring. Their acceleration was ~ 10^18 g. Now THAT is a powerful "centrifuge" that completely outclasses your (NASA's) 20 g. [#] Spinning is NOT gravitation. > [... further nonsense displaying profound ignorance of H&K experimernt] You just don't understand: clocks similar to H&K's clocks cannot distinguish a 0.93 ns difference over 22 hours. This is because of their measurement resolution, and has nothing to do with the fact that they also won't operate at 20 g. Just leave two of them sitting together in a lab, and over 22 hours they will typically diverge by more than 0.93 ns (but the actual amount is random, so you cannot know it in advance). Tom Roberts
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| From | RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-20 10:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5a3cbbf9-1971-4ce8-89c0-c25add8c8a50@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464298 |
On July 13, Paparios wrote: >> The total elapsed time will be different because the clocks on the >> centrifuge ticked slower. > > What part of your own experimental arrangement you do not understand? > The clocks in the centrifuge ARE going into a circular path, right? > The clock in the ground is not moving, right? > For both clock there is a time coordinate, right? Right, to all above > For the ground clock you can graph its tick time versus time, right? huh? > What is the math in there? and why those graphs are not related to reality "tick time versus time" relates to reality? -- Rich
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| From | hallstoncliff@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 15:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d90c31fd-e522-427f-a030-7563508f32e3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464297 |
On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 1:58:18 PM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote: > If they can measure the difference using atomic clocks flying aboard > airplanes, they can certainly measure the difference using atomic clocks > in a centrifuge. And the gravitational time dilation at 20Gs should be > VERY LARGE. No, the difference in time dilation isn't proportional to difference in acceleration at the two locations, it's proportional to the amount of work needed to lift (say) a one pound object from one location to the other. The centrifuge has 20g acceleration at the end, but the arm is only 29 feet long, so it wouldn't take much work to "raise" an object from the end to the center (where there is no centrifugal time dilation at all). By comparison, in Hafele-Keating there is only about 1g acceleration but the planes are over 30,000 ft up, so the work to lift an object is FAR greater. (This is just a way of explaining gravitational potential.) That's why the time dilation in Hafele-Keating is much greater than for this centrifuge.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 22:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B4989E2.2A30@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #464302 |
hallstoncliff@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 1:58:18 PM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote: > > If they can measure the difference using atomic clocks flying aboard > > airplanes, they can certainly measure the difference using atomic clocks > > in a centrifuge. And the gravitational time dilation at 20Gs should be > > VERY LARGE. > > There is no method to measure....time dilation. Time dilation is independent of time. You never know when it dilates. There is no way to know. It is not measurable.
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| From | Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-14 10:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <326ec250-9233-40c6-a9c0-a353c7eabfb6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464302 |
On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 5:28:08 PM UTC-5, hallst...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 1:58:18 PM UTC-7, Ed Lake wrote: > > If they can measure the difference using atomic clocks flying aboard > > airplanes, they can certainly measure the difference using atomic clocks > > in a centrifuge. And the gravitational time dilation at 20Gs should be > > VERY LARGE. > > No, the difference in time dilation isn't proportional to difference in acceleration at the two locations, it's proportional to the amount of work needed to lift (say) a one pound object from one location to the other. The centrifuge has 20g acceleration at the end, but the arm is only 29 feet long, so it wouldn't take much work to "raise" an object from the end to the center (where there is no centrifugal time dilation at all). By comparison, in Hafele-Keating there is only about 1g acceleration but the planes are over 30,000 ft up, so the work to lift an object is FAR greater. (This is just a way of explaining gravitational potential.) That's why the time dilation in Hafele-Keating is much greater than for this centrifuge. If you weigh 180 pounds at 1G, you will weigh 360 pounds at 2Gs and 540 pounds at 3Gs. That's a significant difference, and the time dilation due to that "acceleration" will be easily measured by atomic clocks. You could do the same thing on a rocket sled, but you cannot sustain that level of acceleration for as long. Ed
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-14 10:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <026a6adb-9576-4b0a-8332-75876cef64d9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464352 |
Starmaker said something interesting There is no method to measure....time dilation. Time dilation is independent of time. You never know when it dilates. There is no way to know. It is not measurable. Correct c^2/c^2 = 1 (c^3/c)^0.5 = c https://photos.app.goo.gl/YN4hfm7wfT02ObDO2 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cos(x)%2Bcos(y)%2Bcos(z)%3D+0 https://photos.app.goo.gl/CG5wscHgqcSLmp5i1 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2F(x%5E7+y%5E7)%5E(1%2F6)
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| From | "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-14 10:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0cdc4a4e-5d98-447a-abd8-182ce726a261@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #464356 |
Starmaker said something interesting There is no method to measure....time dilation. Time dilation is independent of time. You never know when it dilates. There is no way to know. It is not measurable. Correct c^2/c^2 = 1 (c^3/c)^0.5 = c https://photos.app.goo.gl/YN4hfm7wfT02ObDO2 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cos(x)%2Bcos(y)%2Bcos(z)%3D+0 https://photos.app.goo.gl/CG5wscHgqcSLmp5i1 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2F(x%5E7+y%5E7)%5E(1%2F6) https://photos.app.goo.gl/DygzYXNjjT5NCEc18 https://photos.app.goo.gl/g7SM33XCqECdAvqa7
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