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Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2018-06-25 13:29 -0700
Last post2018-06-29 12:02 +1000
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  sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-25 13:29 -0700
    Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-26 00:17 -0700
      Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-26 09:54 -0700
        Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-26 23:59 -0700
          Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-28 10:52 -0700
            Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-28 11:46 -0700
              Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-29 10:51 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 09:18 -0700
        Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 10:42 -0700
          Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-29 15:43 +0000
        Re: sci.physics.relativity Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 14:29 -0700
          Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 15:11 -0700
      Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 10:40 -0700
        Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-29 15:49 +0000
          Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 11:55 -0700
            Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 13:41 -0700
              Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 14:44 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-04 17:42 -0700
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-04 17:44 -0700
    Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-06-27 02:03 +1000
      Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-26 19:29 +0200
        Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-06-27 21:23 +1000
          Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-27 15:22 +0200
            Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-06-28 05:10 +1000
            Re: sci.physics.relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-28 09:09 -0500
              Re: sci.physics.relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 11:36 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 12:36 -0700
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 16:55 -0700
                    Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 10:52 -0700
                      Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-30 12:49 -0700
                        Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-30 21:53 -0700
                        Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 19:05 -0700
                          Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-03 06:44 +0000
                            Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:43 -0700
                          Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-02 23:53 -0700
                            Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 13:47 -0700
                              Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 14:46 -0700
                                Re: sci.physics.relativity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 15:47 -0700
                                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-04 17:52 -0700
                                  Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-05 12:07 -0700
                      Re: sci.physics.relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 15:01 -0700
                        Re: sci.physics.relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 22:06 +0000
              Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-28 11:08 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-06-29 12:18 +1000
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 18:49 +0200
                    Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-01 13:05 +1000
                      Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-03 01:02 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-29 10:11 -0500
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-29 15:55 +0000
                  Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 19:14 +0200
                    Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-10 11:32 +1000
                      Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-10 20:48 +0200
                        Re: sci.physics.relativity Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-11 10:54 +0000
                          Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 05:00 +0200
                            Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-12 20:30 +1000
                              Re: sci.physics.relativity Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 11:00 +0000
                                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:31 +0200
                              Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:29 +0200
                                Re: sci.physics.relativity Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 09:39 -0700
                            Re: sci.physics.relativity Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 10:58 +0000
                              Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:34 +0200
              Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-06-29 12:02 +1000

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#464225

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2018-07-12 18:34 +0200
Message-ID<026a2eb3-cf8a-faf5-4953-651a85e4a216@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#464210
The ’nym-shifting troll trolled as "Olin Hayton":

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> The ’nym-shifting troll demonstrated their staggering ignorance as
> 
> This is not even English.

Not knowing English, you are singularly unsuited to make a proper assessment
in that area.

> "their"??

As you have been told before: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They#Generic>

>> It is a *coordinate transformation* – *algebra*, _not_ analysis. *There
>> is no integration.*
> 
> This neither. Cannot parse.

I am not surprised.

> You abuse both the concept and the punctuation.

Nonsense.

*PLONK*

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#462913

FromSolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au>
Date2018-06-29 12:02 +1000
Message-ID<14sgxtj7kdhrd$.xprsfybifts7.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#462840
>>> To make Newtonian physics to work you need to have some arbitrary point to
>>> measure from, think about an object which is measured with x, y, z
>>> directions at a time of t. All these measurements are from some arbitrary
>>> point and time.
> 
> It actually requires considerably more: an inertial coordinate system. 
> Just a single point is woefully inadequate.


Indeed but that point is required and the point, I was making is that it is
arbitrary.


> 
>> Once again: You do not understand what “relativity of space and time” in
>> “theories of relativity” means.
> 
> You are lumping together incommensurate theories -- the concepts of 
> space and time are CONSIDERABLY different among Newtonian physics, SR, 
> and GR. But all can be classified as "theories of relativity" -- that 
> phrase is essentially useless.
> 

I agree.

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