Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > sci.physics.relativity > #458086 > unrolled thread

The Origin of Time

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2018-05-16 11:40 -0700
Last post2018-05-21 09:11 +0000
Articles 10 — 4 participants

Back to article view | Back to sci.physics.relativity


Contents

  The Origin of Time The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-16 11:40 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Time mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-16 13:46 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Time SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-05-17 12:25 +1000
      Re: The Origin of Time mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-16 20:33 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Time The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-16 23:55 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Time The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-17 13:47 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Time mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-17 22:52 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Time The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-19 00:23 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Time mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-19 21:02 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Time Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-21 09:11 +0000

#458086 — The Origin of Time

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-16 11:40 -0700
SubjectThe Origin of Time
Message-ID<5AFC7B30.77B7@ix.netcom.com>
I've been doing observations of
The Origin of Gravity but I'm not finished...

so here is The Origin of Time..

it seems to me
that there is no origin of time.

Time always existed before and after the big bang
according to my observations.

The only difference between Time before the big bang and
Time after the big bang is...seconds.

There were no seconds before the big bang.

Before the big bang Time was infinite..but the big bang
changed that, and divided time into...parts (you call seconds).

According to your measurements of Time...our universe age is
trillion and trillions of years (whatever infinite time is)

if you don't break it into parts of seconds...


There is no spacetime...

There is space...and there is time.


Space doesn't flow.

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]


#458094

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-05-16 13:46 -0700
Message-ID<d18f00b7-76c1-4134-9f7f-444b01ab91ad@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458086
On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 11:40:47 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> I've been doing observations of
> The Origin of Gravity but I'm not finished...
> 
> so here is The Origin of Time..
> 
> it seems to me
> that there is no origin of time.
> 
> Time always existed before and after the big bang
> according to my observations.
> 
> The only difference between Time before the big bang and
> Time after the big bang is...seconds.
> 
> There were no seconds before the big bang.
> 
> Before the big bang Time was infinite..but the big bang
> changed that, and divided time into...parts (you call seconds).
> 
> According to your measurements of Time...our universe age is
> trillion and trillions of years (whatever infinite time is)
> 
> if you don't break it into parts of seconds...
> 
> 
> There is no spacetime...
> 
> There is space...and there is time.
> 
> 
> Space doesn't flow.

Gravity is space speed...

Mitchell Raemsch

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#458118

FromSolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au>
Date2018-05-17 12:25 +1000
Message-ID<tr2vpwt8urfh.mcfl2m6h3dnc$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#458086
On Wed, 16 May 2018 11:40:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> There is no spacetime...
> 
> There is space...and there is time.

Imagine you are an observer on a ray of light going at C, you experience no
time and no space.

If there is no time, then there is no space.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#458121

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-05-16 20:33 -0700
Message-ID<fdf6dee0-4508-4d3e-a0d6-aa474d14611c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458118
On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 7:25:12 PM UTC-7, SolomonW wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 11:40:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > There is no spacetime...
> > 
> > There is space...and there is time.
> 
> Imagine you are an observer on a ray of light going at C, you experience no
> time and no space.
> 
> If there is no time, then there is no space.

Can't get there.

Mitchell Raemsch

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#458128

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-16 23:55 -0700
Message-ID<5AFD2748.6D14@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#458086
Mark Earnest wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 1:40:47 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > I've been doing observations of
> > The Origin of Gravity but I'm not finished...
> >
> > so here is The Origin of Time..
> >
> > it seems to me
> > that there is no origin of time.
> >
> > Time always existed before and after the big bang
> > according to my observations.
> >
> > The only difference between Time before the big bang and
> > Time after the big bang is...seconds.
> >
> > There were no seconds before the big bang.
> >
> > Before the big bang Time was infinite..but the big bang
> > changed that, and divided time into...parts (you call seconds).
> >
> > According to your measurements of Time...our universe age is
> > trillion and trillions of years (whatever infinite time is)
> >
> > if you don't break it into parts of seconds...
> >
> >
> > There is no spacetime...
> >
> > There is space...and there is time.
> >
> >
> > Space doesn't flow.
> 
> There is no time before the Big Bang.  The Big Bang began time.  How can there possibly be time infinite in reverse?  There is no way to even imagine such a thing.


Albert Einstein considered a steady-state model of the expanding universe...

that means eternal universe and a big bang (expanding universe).

The big bang was actually the tranfer of a steady-state into a expanding universe.

A no clock universe into a clock universe.

unmeasurable time to measurable time.


In a steady state universe...stars do not die.


The big bang is the tranfer from stars that do not die to stars that die.


The Starmaker

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#458198

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-17 13:47 -0700
Message-ID<5AFDEA77.641A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#458128
Mark Earnest wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 1:54:11 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Mark Earnest wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 1:40:47 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > I've been doing observations of
> > > > The Origin of Gravity but I'm not finished...
> > > >
> > > > so here is The Origin of Time..
> > > >
> > > > it seems to me
> > > > that there is no origin of time.
> > > >
> > > > Time always existed before and after the big bang
> > > > according to my observations.
> > > >
> > > > The only difference between Time before the big bang and
> > > > Time after the big bang is...seconds.
> > > >
> > > > There were no seconds before the big bang.
> > > >
> > > > Before the big bang Time was infinite..but the big bang
> > > > changed that, and divided time into...parts (you call seconds).
> > > >
> > > > According to your measurements of Time...our universe age is
> > > > trillion and trillions of years (whatever infinite time is)
> > > >
> > > > if you don't break it into parts of seconds...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There is no spacetime...
> > > >
> > > > There is space...and there is time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Space doesn't flow.
> > >
> > > There is no time before the Big Bang.  The Big Bang began time.  How can there possibly be time infinite in reverse?  There is no way to even imagine such a thing.
> >
> >
> > Albert Einstein considered a steady-state model of the expanding universe...
> >
> > that means eternal universe and a big bang (expanding universe).
> >
> > The big bang was actually the tranfer of a steady-state into a expanding universe.
> >
> > A no clock universe into a clock universe.
> >
> > unmeasurable time to measurable time.
> >
> >
> > In a steady state universe...stars do not die.
> >
> >
> > The big bang is the tranfer from stars that do not die to stars that die.
> >
> >
> > The Starmaker
> 
> Einstein was smart but he was not as smart as your average child who sees more clearly.  The universe is not steady state until it expands to the correct diameter.  Then the gravitation of everything to everything else balances out and stays that way.



Albert Einstein didn't invent gravity or the steady-state model of the universe...


he just said, "Yeah, that's it!"


Albert Einstein didn't come out with a mouse trap...he just came out with a better mouse trap.

Everyone is suppose to come up with a better mouse trap, thats the whole idea of the ...whole thing.


Don't show me a mouse trap thats already been invented..

show me a better mouse trap.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#458244

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-05-17 22:52 -0700
Message-ID<ff341e75-f6bd-4e75-9b79-49313b5a0c5f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458198
On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 1:47:47 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Mark Earnest wrote:
> > 
> > On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 1:54:11 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Mark Earnest wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 1:40:47 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > I've been doing observations of
> > > > > The Origin of Gravity but I'm not finished...
> > > > >
> > > > > so here is The Origin of Time..
> > > > >
> > > > > it seems to me
> > > > > that there is no origin of time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Time always existed before and after the big bang
> > > > > according to my observations.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only difference between Time before the big bang and
> > > > > Time after the big bang is...seconds.
> > > > >
> > > > > There were no seconds before the big bang.
> > > > >
> > > > > Before the big bang Time was infinite..but the big bang
> > > > > changed that, and divided time into...parts (you call seconds).
> > > > >
> > > > > According to your measurements of Time...our universe age is
> > > > > trillion and trillions of years (whatever infinite time is)
> > > > >
> > > > > if you don't break it into parts of seconds...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no spacetime...
> > > > >
> > > > > There is space...and there is time.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Space doesn't flow.
> > > >
> > > > There is no time before the Big Bang.  The Big Bang began time.  How can there possibly be time infinite in reverse?  There is no way to even imagine such a thing.
> > >
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein considered a steady-state model of the expanding universe...
> > >
> > > that means eternal universe and a big bang (expanding universe).
> > >
> > > The big bang was actually the tranfer of a steady-state into a expanding universe.
> > >
> > > A no clock universe into a clock universe.
> > >
> > > unmeasurable time to measurable time.
> > >
> > >
> > > In a steady state universe...stars do not die.
> > >
> > >
> > > The big bang is the tranfer from stars that do not die to stars that die.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Starmaker
> > 
> > Einstein was smart but he was not as smart as your average child who sees more clearly.  The universe is not steady state until it expands to the correct diameter.  Then the gravitation of everything to everything else balances out and stays that way.

What if a tip in the balance has 100 percent probability
in the way gravity builds by energy?
A big crunch or re-expansion would  take
place. If it starts over what then is going to stop it?

The Hypersphere closed universe with no boundary expands forever...

Since all stars would die God recreates in this forever 
expanding universe.

Mitchell Raemsch

> 
> 
> 
> Albert Einstein didn't invent gravity or the steady-state model of the universe...
> 
> 
> he just said, "Yeah, that's it!"
> 
> 
> Albert Einstein didn't come out with a mouse trap...he just came out with a better mouse trap.
> 
> Everyone is suppose to come up with a better mouse trap, thats the whole idea of the ...whole thing.
> 
> 
> Don't show me a mouse trap thats already been invented..
> 
> show me a better mouse trap.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#458377

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-19 00:23 -0700
Message-ID<5AFFD0E5.5940@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#458086
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> I've been doing observations of
> The Origin of Gravity but I'm not finished...
> 
> so here is The Origin of Time..
> 
> it seems to me
> that there is no origin of time.
> 
> Time always existed before and after the big bang
> according to my observations.
> 
> The only difference between Time before the big bang and
> Time after the big bang is...seconds.
> 
> There were no seconds before the big bang.



I should add as a footnote that before the big bang the universe only had....two dimensions.


The third dimension was created after the big bang.


What caused the big bang was the manufacturing of Mass from Energy.

After the big bang you get e=mc^2

but, before the big bang was e plus m

e + m = ^2

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#458498

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-05-19 21:02 -0700
Message-ID<de303ab5-8112-4b17-b202-38a554dc1cb4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458377
On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 12:23:12 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > I've been doing observations of
> > The Origin of Gravity but I'm not finished...
> > 
> > so here is The Origin of Time..
> > 
> > it seems to me
> > that there is no origin of time.
> > 
> > Time always existed before and after the big bang
> > according to my observations.
> > 
> > The only difference between Time before the big bang and
> > Time after the big bang is...seconds.
> > 
> > There were no seconds before the big bang.
> 
> 
> 
> I should add as a footnote that before the big bang the universe only had....two dimensions.

There is no before the beginning of space time.
Big Bang Zero...
That is a Timeless Creator.

Mitchell Raemsch

> 
> 
> The third dimension was created after the big bang.
> 
> 
> What caused the big bang was the manufacturing of Mass from Energy.
> 
> After the big bang you get e=mc^2
> 
> but, before the big bang was e plus m
> 
> e + m = ^2

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#458653

FromOslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th>
Date2018-05-21 09:11 +0000
Message-ID<pdu2gj$1gvd$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#458086
The Starmaker wrote:

> Time always existed before and after the big bang according to my
> observations.

How could it, taking p as postition dp/dt, what's that time standing for? 
All time, actually.

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]


Back to top | Article view | sci.physics.relativity


csiph-web