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  Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-27 23:48 -0700
    Re:Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-28 14:47 +0200
      Re: Dark Matter? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-03-28 07:34 -0700
        Re: Dark Matter? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 10:29 -0700
          Re: Dark Matter? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-03-28 14:35 -0700
            Re: Dark Matter? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 04:18 -0700
              Re: Dark Matter? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-03-29 07:39 -0700
                Re: Dark Matter? Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-03-30 11:57 +0200
                  Re: Dark Matter? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-03-30 09:12 -0700
                    Re: Dark Matter? Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-03-30 18:54 +0200
                      Re: Dark Matter? Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> - 2018-03-30 17:35 +0000
                      Re: Dark Matter? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-03-30 15:44 -0700
                        Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-31 06:23 +0200
        Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 06:58 +0200
          Re: Dark Matter? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-03-29 07:48 -0700
            Re: Dark Matter? Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-03-30 11:42 +0200
              Re: Dark Matter? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2018-03-30 09:20 -0700
                Re: Dark Matter? Libor 'Poutnik' Stříž <poutnik@privacy.net> - 2018-03-30 20:05 +0200
      Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 10:04 -0700
        Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 10:17 -0700
          Re: Dark Matter? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-28 10:38 -0700
        Re: Dark Matter? Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-28 13:23 -0700
          Re: Dark Matter? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-29 03:04 +0200
        Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 07:04 +0200
          Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-29 20:38 -0700
            Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-30 08:49 +0200
              Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-30 10:50 -0700
                Re: Dark Matter? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-30 11:00 -0700
      Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 15:12 -0700
        Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 15:53 -0700
          Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 06:47 +0200
            Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-28 23:35 -0700
              Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 08:51 +0200
            Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-29 18:09 -0700
              Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-30 03:43 +0200
                Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-29 20:42 -0700
                  Re: Dark Matter? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 21:18 -0700
                    Re: Dark Matter? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 21:39 -0700
                  Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-30 08:53 +0200
                    Re: Dark Matter? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-03-30 10:30 -0700
        Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 06:46 +0200
      Re:Dark Matter? Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> - 2018-03-29 19:09 +0000
        Re:Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 21:21 +0200
          Re:Dark Matter? Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> - 2018-03-29 19:44 +0000
            Re:Dark Matter? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-03-29 21:54 +0200
          The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-03-29 13:09 -0700
            The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 13:22 -0700
              Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-03-29 18:39 -0500
                Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 17:13 -0700
                  Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 17:26 -0700
                    Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-29 20:08 -0700
            Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-03-29 18:04 -0400
              Most everything at WikiPedia is -WELL SOURCED-. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-03-29 16:10 -0700
    Re: Dark Matter? Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> - 2018-03-29 18:54 +0000
      Re: Dark Matter? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-03-29 21:27 +0200
    Re: Dark Matter? Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 08:09 +0100
    Dark Matter? "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-30 19:16 -0700

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#454148

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>> > What color is...Dark Matter?
>> >
>> >
>> > According to my observation...
>> >
>> > it is darker than Blue.
>> >
>> Dark matter is misname.
>> Hidden  matter is more exact.
>> 
>> What is dark absorbs light, like a dark object.
>> Dark matter does not absorb light.
>> Neither reflects light.
>> Neither refracts light.
>> Neither disperges light.
>> It does not interact with light,  but via gravity.
>> 
>> What does not interact with light is not dark.
>> 
>> But, it can be a transparent foreground on a dark background.
> 
> 
> You mean like what a fish sees...
> 

If you mean dark matter is white with white background and black
 with black  background, then yes.

By other words, DM is like a PNG file with 100% transparency.

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#454198

Libor Striz wrote:

> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>> What color is...Dark Matter?
>> According to my observation... it is darker than Blue.
>> 
> Dark matter is misname. Hidden  matter is more exact.

How on earth is that exact. You can't have it hidden. That's meta-physics. 
Immaterial matter is totally nonsense. Get yourself an education in a 
civilized country, young boy.

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#454199

Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> Wrote in message:
> Libor Striz wrote:
> 
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>>> What color is...Dark Matter?
>>> According to my observation... it is darker than Blue.
>>> 
>> Dark matter is misname. Hidden  matter is more exact.
> 
> How on earth is that exact. You can't have it hidden. That's meta-physics. 
> Immaterial matter is totally nonsense. Get yourself an education in a 
> civilized country, young boy.
> 

First try to understand, what I wrote, baby, 
but only after abandoning your childish trolling and nymshifting.
 Your ID generator is quite stupid.
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#454201

Libor Striz wrote:

> Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> Wrote in message:
>> Libor Striz wrote:
>> 
>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> Wrote in message:
>>>> What color is...Dark Matter?
>>>> According to my observation... it is darker than Blue.
>>>> 
>>> Dark matter is misname. Hidden  matter is more exact.
>> 
>> How on earth is that exact. You can't have it hidden. That's
>> meta-physics.
>> Immaterial matter is totally nonsense. Get yourself an education in a
>> civilized country, young boy.
> 
> First try to understand, what I wrote, baby,
> but only after abandoning your childish trolling and nymshifting.
>  Your ID generator is quite stupid.

In lack of scientific arguments, you decay attacking my good name, and, 
accusing me for trolling. It makes no sense.

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#454202

The ’nym-shifting troll trolled as "Will Bos" <sllu@wsws.sb>:

> In lack of scientific arguments, you decay attacking my good name, and,
                                       ^^^^^           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> accusing me for trolling. It makes no sense.

ROTFL.

(*PLONK*)


PointedEars
-- 
“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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#454203 — The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

The British use the word "dark" when they mean "unseen";
e.g.: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

95% of the (spherical) Milky Way can't be seen because
we're sitting in a brightly lit "room" with pitch black "windows",
and we can't turn down the lights, nor move to the window.

Quoting WikiPedia: ＜＜

  The visible disk of the Milky Way Galaxy is embedded 
  in a much larger, roughly spherical halo of dark matter. 

  The dark matter density drops off with distance from the galactic center.
  It is now believed that about 95% of the Galaxy is composed of dark matter ＞＞

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#454205 — The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

Dark Matter = Aether 

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#454231 — Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

On 3/29/18 3:22 PM, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> Dark Matter = Aether

OBVIOUSLY you do not know what these words actually mean. Dark matter 
cannot possibly be the aether, because the aether supposedly supports 
electromagnetic waves (aka light), while dark matter doesn't interact 
with light at all.

What's the point of just making stuff up, pretending to yourself that it 
is true, and then posting it to the 'net?

Tom Roberts

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#454236 — Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

tjrob137
On 3/29/18 3:22 PM, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
> Dark Matter = Aether 

OBVIOUSLY you do not know what these words actually mean. Dark matter 
cannot possibly be the aether, because the aether supposedly supports 
electromagnetic waves (aka light), while dark matter doesn't interact 
with light at all. 

What's the point of just making stuff up, pretending to yourself that it 
is true, and then posting it to the 'net? 

Tom Roberts 

It was Just a Simile. 

Don’t go all ape Crazy 

If there is 0.2235 atomic mass units known

And 5 atomic mass units necessary to balance expansion 

An Aether medium would / could provide the missing 77.6286353468 %

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#454239 — Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

tjrob137 
- hide quoted text -
On 3/29/18 3:22 PM, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
> Dark Matter = Aether 

OBVIOUSLY you do not know what these words actually mean. Dark matter 
cannot possibly be the aether, because the aether supposedly supports 
electromagnetic waves (aka light), while dark matter doesn't interact 
with light at all. 

What's the point of just making stuff up, pretending to yourself that it 
is true, and then posting it to the 'net? 

Tom Roberts 

It was Just a Simile. 

Don’t go all ape Crazy 

If there is 0.2235 atomic mass units known 

And 5 atomic mass units necessary to balance expansion 

An Aether medium would / could provide the missing 77.6286353468 % 


It seems much more likely the Hubble redshift is the result of the (Dropping Pressure of the System) than an “Expanding Universe”

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#454250 — Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

tjrob137 


On 3/29/18 3:22 PM, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
> Dark Matter = Aether 

OBVIOUSLY you do not know what these words actually mean. Dark matter 
cannot possibly be the aether, because the aether supposedly supports 
electromagnetic waves (aka light), while dark matter doesn't interact 
with light at all. 

What's the point of just making stuff up, pretending to yourself that it 
is true, and then posting it to the 'net? 

Tom Roberts 

It was Just a Simile. 

Don’t go all ape Crazy 

If there is 0.2235 atomic mass units known 

And 5 atomic mass units necessary to balance expansion 

An Aether medium would / could provide the missing 77.6286353468 % 


It seems much more likely the Hubble redshift is the result of the (Dropping Pressure of the System) than an “Expanding Universe” 


(0.5 m)^3) / (0.5 s) = 1/4 m^3/s 

Entropy 

Sbh = Area/(4 / c * (Planck Length)^3/(Planck Time)) 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/lxy3ilUZXtbKfeQH2 


http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Bekenstein-Hawking_entropy#Formula_for_black_hole_entropy 

Sbh = A/(4*(Planck Length)^2)) 
Sbh =  (A/c*4)/(((Planck Length)^3/(Planck time)) = 1.70377849e+53


Sbh = A/(4*(Planck Length)^2)) 
Sbh = ((Area) / c) / (((0.5 * Planck Length)^3) / ((0.5 * Planck length) / c)) = 1.70377849e+53 


(((((1.70377849e+53 kg) * G) / (c^2)) / (13.8879583 billion light years)) * 6.52485) / (2 * pi) = 0.999999998 

((1.70377849e+53 kg * (((70407.2611 * (m / s)) / (1 Mpc)) *planck length) = (2pi kg m/s) 

mass density in the cosmos? 

((1.70377849e+53 kg) / ((13.8880817391 billion light years * pi)^3)) / 6.52485 = 3.71295775e-28 kg / m^3 

((((1.70377849e+53 kg) / ((13.8880817391 billion light years)^3)) / ((0.5 kg * G) / (c^2))) / 6.52485) / (pi^3) = 1 kg / m^4 


energy density in the global scale? 


(((1.70377849e+53 kg) / ((13.8880817391 billion light years * pi)^3)) / 6.52485) * (c^2) * 2 = 6.67408001e-11 pascals 

(((6.67408e-11 / 2) * pascals) / (3.71295775e-28 (kg / (m^3))))^0.5 = 299792458 m / s 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedmann_equations#Density_parameter 

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#454216 — Re: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.

On 3/29/2018 4:09 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> The British use the word "dark" when they mean "unseen";
> e.g.: The "dark" (UnSeen) side of the moon.
> 
> 95% of the (spherical) Milky Way can't be seen because
> we're sitting in a brightly lit "room" with pitch black "windows",
> and we can't turn down the lights, nor move to the window.
> 
> Quoting WikiPedia: ＜＜
> 
>    The visible disk of the Milky Way Galaxy is embedded
>    in a much larger, roughly spherical halo of dark matter.
> 
>    The dark matter density drops off with distance from the galactic center.
>    It is now believed that about 95% of the Galaxy is composed of dark matter ＞＞
> 
You make one little mistake (BB) and look at the mess your physics turns 
into! Wikipedia is really the ultimate authority on all science, Rolf. 
Didn't you notice that when Sergio spanked "kensi" he quoted Einstein's 
actual papers, not Wikipedia?

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#454228 — Most everything at WikiPedia is -WELL SOURCED-.

> Wikipedia is really the ultimate authority on all science, Rolf. 

If you could contribute to WikiPedia, as I do,
you'd know that most everything there is -WELL SOURCED-;
it's a God Damn Miracle !

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#454196

The Starmaker wrote:

> What color is...Dark Matter?

brown, but it depends.

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#454200

Will Bos <sllu@wsws.sb> Wrote in message:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> 
>> What color is...Dark Matter?
> 
> brown, but it depends.
> 

 Colour of dark matter is contradiction.

What does not interact electromagnetically cannot have colour.

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#454264

On 28/03/2018 07:48, The Starmaker wrote:

	> What color is...Dark Matter?

> dark matter color is darker than blue. 
> But, but...if you ask the Internet...you will get the wrong answer:
> "Dark matter has no color, because it's transparent, so it is invisible."
> If you ask your science teacher...you will get the wrong answer:
> "Dark matter has no color, 



    FLAT ORBITAL VELOCITY CURVES OF SPIRAL GALAXIES

I suspect there could be a simple relationship of the form:

     ( constant orbital speed )^2 = K * mass of galaxy

I arrive at this by assuming that for spiral galaxies there is, in 
addition to the usual Newtonian inverse square gravitation, an 
additional inverse LINEAR relationship.

At normal distances the LINEAR TERM is clearly very small and can be 
ignored, but obviously at very large distances the linear term will 
dominate, and at sufficiently large distances the inverse square term 
can be ignored.

At large distance from the galactic center (R) we may therefore write:

        Centripetal Force = m * v^2 / R = K * M * m / R

Which gives us:                v^2     = K * M

Note v is independent of R, so this would nicely explain the
FLAT ORBITAL VELOCITY CURVES OF SPIRAL GALAXIES eh!



> Where do you guys learn physics from? science fiction teachers??

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#454346

Quantum Physics says dark matter is not needed

Classical mass density in the cosmos

((1.70377849e+53 kg) / ((13.8880817391 billion light years * pi)^3)) / 6.52485 = 3.71295775e-28 kg / m^3 


Redshift = (70407.2611 * (m / s)) / (1 Mpc)

1.70377849e+53 kg * ((((70 407.2611 * (m / s)) / (1 Mpc)) * planck length) / (2pi)) = 1.00000666 m kg / s

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