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  Jupiter's Great Red Spot  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-03 10:45 -0700
    Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2017-07-04 21:22 +1000
      Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-04 15:03 +0200
      Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-07-04 14:25 +0000
        Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-04 09:03 -0700
          Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Upech Bezradne <adeeia@bbzzeop.ic> - 2017-07-07 10:45 +0000
            Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-07 09:20 -0500
              Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Ursler Zilberschlag <ursler@zilbersch.org> - 2017-07-09 09:39 +0000
        Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-04 18:08 +0200
          Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-04 11:05 -0700
            Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-05 01:24 +0200
              Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-04 18:46 -0700
                Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-05 04:48 +0200
                  Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-04 20:44 -0700
        Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-11 07:08 -0600
          Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-13 08:50 -0700
            Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-15 11:19 -0700
              Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Garfield Dieter <igdle@rdlge.rf> - 2017-07-15 18:23 +0000
                Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-17 22:53 +0200
              Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-15 12:35 -0700
                Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-15 12:49 -0700
                  Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-15 14:23 -0700
                  Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-15 14:35 -0700
                  Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-16 13:03 -0700
                    Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-16 17:11 -0700
                    Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-19 10:12 -0700
                      Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-19 10:18 -0700
          Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-18 03:40 -0500
            Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-07-18 14:07 +0000
              Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2017-07-18 09:02 -0700
              Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-18 14:13 -0500
      Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-04 12:13 -0700
        Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2017-07-05 19:29 +1000
          Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-05 11:39 -0700
            Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-07-08 12:22 -0700
    Re: Jupiter's Great Red Spot  Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-04 08:31 -0700

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#425061

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 11:19:09 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > > Here is the latest picture of Pluto..
> > > What color is the surface of Pluto look like to you?
> >
> > > https://www.space.com/37497-new-horizons-pluto-amazing-flyby-videos-anniversary.html
> >
> > Didn't you bother to read the article? If you did, then you 'forgot' to mention this quote...
> >
> > "A caveat: The newly released videos don't show exactly what a human visitor to the Pluto system would see. In both of them, topographic relief has been exaggerated by two to three times, and surface colors have been enhanced, to highlight topography and detail, NASA officials said."
> 
> They only enhanced the one color contained on Pluto, and that color is Red.
> 
> If you enhance Mars, you just get a Redder color.
> 
> en·hance
> in'hans,en'hans/
> verb
> verb: enhance; 3rd person present: enhances; past tense: enhanced; past participle: enhanced; gerund or present participle: enhancing
> 
>     intensify, increase,
> 
> intensify! increase! not change.
> 


I already mentioned for quite some time that only the earth surface color is Blue, and all the 'other' planets in the universe surface color 
is just one color, RED!


In other words, every planet out there surface color is just one color, Red.


What problems do yous have with that fact????



The Great Red Spot is just a formation of another new planet..red. Why do yous think the Great Red Spot is...Red????

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#425076

pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 12:50:01 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 11:19:09 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Here is the latest picture of Pluto..
> > > > > What color is the surface of Pluto look like to you?
> > > >
> > > > > https://www.space.com/37497-new-horizons-pluto-amazing-flyby-videos-anniversary.html
> > > >
> > > > Didn't you bother to read the article? If you did, then you 'forgot' to mention this quote...
> > > >
> > > > "A caveat: The newly released videos don't show exactly what a human visitor to the Pluto system would see. In both of them, topographic relief has been exaggerated by two to three times, and surface colors have been enhanced, to highlight topography and detail, NASA officials said."
> > >
> > > They only enhanced the one color contained on Pluto, and that color is Red.
> 
> Read the quote again, and then read it a third time... it clearly says 'colors', plural. That means 'more than one color'. Are you really stupid enough to actually think that every color on Pluto is red?
> 
> > > If you enhance Mars, you just get a Redder color.
> 
> Really?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_surface_color

Strange how you people keep posting user edited website..

Couldn't you point to one sentense that says what color is the Mars surface????


and the original user-edited if that is looks like he's from Mars:
https://www.rider.edu/sites/default/files/styles/featured_thumbnail/public/images/news/news_Suniti.jpg?itok=bEdLTzQN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suniti_karunatillake



Maby next you're going to tell me the surface of the earth is not Blue...pink maybe with a little yellow mellow? 


> 
> > > en搬ance
> > > in'hans,en'hans/
> > > verb
> > > verb: enhance; 3rd person present: enhances; past tense: enhanced; past participle: enhanced; gerund or present participle: enhancing
> > >
> > >     intensify, increase,
> > >
> > > intensify! increase! not change.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I already mentioned for quite some time that only the earth surface color is Blue, and all the 'other' planets in the universe surface color
> > is just one color, RED!
> >
> >
> > In other words, every planet out there surface color is just one color, Red.
> >
> >
> > What problems do yous have with that fact????
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_surface_color
> 
> https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/the-rich-color-variations-of-pluto
> 
> http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/58-our-solar-system/planets-and-dwarf-planets/planet-watching/249-what-color-is-each-planet-intermediate
> 
> https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/archive/natural/2017/07/14/jpg/epic_1b_20170714042100_02.jpg
> 
> http://topics.info.com/What-are-the-colors-of-the-planets_2973
> 
> > The Great Red Spot is just a formation of another new planet..red. Why do yous think the Great Red Spot is...Red????
> 
> An insane hypothesis you have here, without a lick of evidence... read this...
> 
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/great_red_spot.htm




Tell me, what is the surface color of Earth, without looking it up at en.wikipedia.org?

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#425078

pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 12:50:01 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 11:19:09 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Here is the latest picture of Pluto..
> > > > > What color is the surface of Pluto look like to you?
> > > >
> > > > > https://www.space.com/37497-new-horizons-pluto-amazing-flyby-videos-anniversary.html
> > > >
> > > > Didn't you bother to read the article? If you did, then you 'forgot' to mention this quote...
> > > >
> > > > "A caveat: The newly released videos don't show exactly what a human visitor to the Pluto system would see. In both of them, topographic relief has been exaggerated by two to three times, and surface colors have been enhanced, to highlight topography and detail, NASA officials said."
> > >
> > > They only enhanced the one color contained on Pluto, and that color is Red.
> 
> Read the quote again, and then read it a third time... it clearly says 'colors', plural. That means 'more than one color'. Are you really stupid enough to actually think that every color on Pluto is red?
> 
> > > If you enhance Mars, you just get a Redder color.
> 
> Really?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_surface_color


Now, he's tryin to prove The Red Panet is not Red.


Couldn't you find another planet with a surface of a ...different color???? Besides the ...red planet? 


i hope you're a self taught scientist...and not from one of out prestigios skools community university of Hamburger.,./

wats the vorld comin too?

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#425214

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 11:19:09 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is the latest picture of Pluto..
> > > > What color is the surface of Pluto look like to you?
> > >
> > > > https://www.space.com/37497-new-horizons-pluto-amazing-flyby-videos-anniversary.html
> > >
> > > Didn't you bother to read the article? If you did, then you 'forgot' to mention this quote...
> > >
> > > "A caveat: The newly released videos don't show exactly what a human visitor to the Pluto system would see. In both of them, topographic relief has been exaggerated by two to three times, and surface colors have been enhanced, to highlight topography and detail, NASA officials said."
> >
> > They only enhanced the one color contained on Pluto, and that color is Red.
> >
> > If you enhance Mars, you just get a Redder color.
> >
> > en·hance
> > in'hans,en'hans/
> > verb
> > verb: enhance; 3rd person present: enhances; past tense: enhanced; past participle: enhanced; gerund or present participle: enhancing
> >
> >     intensify, increase,
> >
> > intensify! increase! not change.
> >
> 
> I already mentioned for quite some time that only the earth surface color is Blue, and all the 'other' planets in the universe surface color
> is just one color, RED!
> 
> In other words, every planet out there surface color is just one color, Red.
> 
> What problems do yous have with that fact????
> 
> The Great Red Spot is just a formation of another new planet..red. Why do yous think the Great Red Spot is...Red????


I don't understand how you people can get everything wrong?


The Great Red Spot is not a storm as others will have you believe...it's a spiral.


The Great Red Spot is the big enough to make another Mars planet.


In order to make a planet you first need to create a ...spiral.


spi·ral
'spir?l/
adjective
adjective: spiral

    1.
    winding in a continuous and gradually widening (or tightening) curve,  ..




In other words...you make a planet like a sculpture. You spiral it to form a planet...using the current around it. 
(the current can be your hands or magnetic fields)



How do you think planets are formed anyway???? Oh, i forgot, most of yous are wiki university graduates...




maybe your answer is on Amazon.

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#425242

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 11:19:09 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Here is the latest picture of Pluto..
> > > > > What color is the surface of Pluto look like to you?
> > > >
> > > > > https://www.space.com/37497-new-horizons-pluto-amazing-flyby-videos-anniversary.html
> > > >
> > > > Didn't you bother to read the article? If you did, then you 'forgot' to mention this quote...
> > > >
> > > > "A caveat: The newly released videos don't show exactly what a human visitor to the Pluto system would see. In both of them, topographic relief has been exaggerated by two to three times, and surface colors have been enhanced, to highlight topography and detail, NASA officials said."
> > >
> > > They only enhanced the one color contained on Pluto, and that color is Red.
> > >
> > > If you enhance Mars, you just get a Redder color.
> > >
> > > en·hance
> > > in'hans,en'hans/
> > > verb
> > > verb: enhance; 3rd person present: enhances; past tense: enhanced; past participle: enhanced; gerund or present participle: enhancing
> > >
> > >     intensify, increase,
> > >
> > > intensify! increase! not change.
> > >
> >
> > I already mentioned for quite some time that only the earth surface color is Blue, and all the 'other' planets in the universe surface color
> > is just one color, RED!
> >
> > In other words, every planet out there surface color is just one color, Red.
> >
> > What problems do yous have with that fact????
> >
> > The Great Red Spot is just a formation of another new planet..red. Why do yous think the Great Red Spot is...Red????
> 
> I don't understand how you people can get everything wrong?
> 
> The Great Red Spot is not a storm as others will have you believe...it's a spiral.
> 
> The Great Red Spot is the big enough to make another Mars planet.
> 
> In order to make a planet you first need to create a ...spiral.
> 
> spi·ral
> 'spir?l/
> adjective
> adjective: spiral
> 
>     1.
>     winding in a continuous and gradually widening (or tightening) curve,  ..
> 
> In other words...you make a planet like a sculpture. You spiral it to form a planet...using the current around it.
> (the current can be your hands or magnetic fields)
> 
> How do you think planets are formed anyway???? Oh, i forgot, most of yous are wiki university graduates...
> 
> maybe your answer is on Amazon.


I mean, I just don't get it! You ask the weather channel; NASA, "How's the weather on Jupiter?" 


"Oh, we got a storm brewing there at least for...350 years!"


A storm? 350 years?? Come on you guys, how stupid can you be? 

Boy, it started to rain and it hasn't stop in 350 years!


I HOPE IT DOESN'T SNOW!!!!

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#425609

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 11:19:09 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Here is the latest picture of Pluto..
> > > > > What color is the surface of Pluto look like to you?
> > > >
> > > > > https://www.space.com/37497-new-horizons-pluto-amazing-flyby-videos-anniversary.html
> > > >
> > > > Didn't you bother to read the article? If you did, then you 'forgot' to mention this quote...
> > > >
> > > > "A caveat: The newly released videos don't show exactly what a human visitor to the Pluto system would see. In both of them, topographic relief has been exaggerated by two to three times, and surface colors have been enhanced, to highlight topography and detail, NASA officials said."
> > >
> > > They only enhanced the one color contained on Pluto, and that color is Red.
> > >
> > > If you enhance Mars, you just get a Redder color.
> > >
> > > en·hance
> > > in'hans,en'hans/
> > > verb
> > > verb: enhance; 3rd person present: enhances; past tense: enhanced; past participle: enhanced; gerund or present participle: enhancing
> > >
> > >     intensify, increase,
> > >
> > > intensify! increase! not change.
> > >
> >
> > I already mentioned for quite some time that only the earth surface color is Blue, and all the 'other' planets in the universe surface color
> > is just one color, RED!
> >
> > In other words, every planet out there surface color is just one color, Red.
> >
> > What problems do yous have with that fact????
> >
> > The Great Red Spot is just a formation of another new planet..red. Why do yous think the Great Red Spot is...Red????
> 
> I don't understand how you people can get everything wrong?
> 
> The Great Red Spot is not a storm as others will have you believe...it's a spiral.
> 
> The Great Red Spot is the big enough to make another Mars planet.
> 
> In order to make a planet you first need to create a ...spiral.
> 
> spi·ral
> 'spir?l/
> adjective
> adjective: spiral
> 
>     1.
>     winding in a continuous and gradually widening (or tightening) curve,  ..
> 
> In other words...you make a planet like a sculpture. You spiral it to form a planet...using the current around it.
> (the current can be your hands or magnetic fields)
> 
> How do you think planets are formed anyway???? Oh, i forgot, most of yous are wiki university graduates...
> 
> maybe your answer is on Amazon.


Here is the answer (in science lingo):




'Jupiter forms with clouds of gas and dust around itself, which, as 
the Great Red Spot spirals, eventually coalesce into a disk. As tiny dust 
grains in this disk collide, they form larger bodies, and those bodies 
attract more gas and dust in turn. Eventually, some accrete enough mass to form protoplanets.'

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#425610

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 11:19:09 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here is the latest picture of Pluto..
> > > > > > What color is the surface of Pluto look like to you?
> > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.space.com/37497-new-horizons-pluto-amazing-flyby-videos-anniversary.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Didn't you bother to read the article? If you did, then you 'forgot' to mention this quote...
> > > > >
> > > > > "A caveat: The newly released videos don't show exactly what a human visitor to the Pluto system would see. In both of them, topographic relief has been exaggerated by two to three times, and surface colors have been enhanced, to highlight topography and detail, NASA officials said."
> > > >
> > > > They only enhanced the one color contained on Pluto, and that color is Red.
> > > >
> > > > If you enhance Mars, you just get a Redder color.
> > > >
> > > > en·hance
> > > > in'hans,en'hans/
> > > > verb
> > > > verb: enhance; 3rd person present: enhances; past tense: enhanced; past participle: enhanced; gerund or present participle: enhancing
> > > >
> > > >     intensify, increase,
> > > >
> > > > intensify! increase! not change.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I already mentioned for quite some time that only the earth surface color is Blue, and all the 'other' planets in the universe surface color
> > > is just one color, RED!
> > >
> > > In other words, every planet out there surface color is just one color, Red.
> > >
> > > What problems do yous have with that fact????
> > >
> > > The Great Red Spot is just a formation of another new planet..red. Why do yous think the Great Red Spot is...Red????
> >
> > I don't understand how you people can get everything wrong?
> >
> > The Great Red Spot is not a storm as others will have you believe...it's a spiral.
> >
> > The Great Red Spot is the big enough to make another Mars planet.
> >
> > In order to make a planet you first need to create a ...spiral.
> >
> > spi·ral
> > 'spir?l/
> > adjective
> > adjective: spiral
> >
> >     1.
> >     winding in a continuous and gradually widening (or tightening) curve,  ..
> >
> > In other words...you make a planet like a sculpture. You spiral it to form a planet...using the current around it.
> > (the current can be your hands or magnetic fields)
> >
> > How do you think planets are formed anyway???? Oh, i forgot, most of yous are wiki university graduates...
> >
> > maybe your answer is on Amazon.
> 
> Here is the answer (in science lingo):
> 
> 'Jupiter forms with clouds of gas and dust around itself, which, as
> the Great Red Spot spirals, eventually coalesce into a disk. As tiny dust
> grains in this disk collide, they form larger bodies, and those bodies
> attract more gas and dust in turn. Eventually, some accrete enough mass to form protoplanets.'


In other words, to put it simply...

if you're gonna have a Great Red Spot, you're going to have a red surface color planet being born.


If the spot was Blue...you would have a blue planet.


You don't need to be a NASA idiot to understand this stuff...it's all about colors.

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#425444

On 2017-07-11, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
>>As for the colors of planets (as seen through atmosphrere from
>>Earth, mind you), there used to be a saying among classic (I mean
>>Greco-Roman times), that three astronomical objects shone red:
>>Sirius, Mars, and Jupiter (but not as red)  Sirius is certainly
>>not red today, and current astrophysics has no explanation for a
>>star turning from bright red to bright blue-white.  If ever I
>>meet an astrophysicist, I'll ask him/her, "What's your
>>hypothesis," and if the answer is "I haven't got one," I'll take
>>that as an honest answer.
>
> Three red objects?  How about Antares ("not Mars") and Betelguese?

Astrophysics does have a hypothesis to cover that: namely, that in historical
times Sirius B was a red giant, that there was a nova (which doesn't seem to
have been recorded, but historical astronomy records are spotty in places),
which led to it becoming the white dwarf we currently see.

Would require fairly coincidental timing, but we already know we had that with
nearby _super_novae, a drought of which lasted from juuuust before the
invention of the telescope (Kepler's, 1604) to a few decades ago when SN1987A
popped in the Large Magellanic Cloud (and also showed up through neutrino
astronomy). So not actually impossible.

Dave, of course a nebular remnant should be visible and as far as I know isn't,
 but maybe alien space bats
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#425469

In article <esqdnb_Sa6rvVPDEnZ2dnUU7-UfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
David DeLaney  <dbd@vic.com> wrote:
>On 2017-07-11, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
>>>As for the colors of planets (as seen through atmosphrere from
>>>Earth, mind you), there used to be a saying among classic (I mean
>>>Greco-Roman times), that three astronomical objects shone red:
>>>Sirius, Mars, and Jupiter (but not as red)  Sirius is certainly
>>>not red today, and current astrophysics has no explanation for a
>>>star turning from bright red to bright blue-white.  If ever I
>>>meet an astrophysicist, I'll ask him/her, "What's your
>>>hypothesis," and if the answer is "I haven't got one," I'll take
>>>that as an honest answer.
>>
>> Three red objects?  How about Antares ("not Mars") and Betelguese?
>
>Astrophysics does have a hypothesis to cover that: namely, that in historical
>times Sirius B was a red giant, that there was a nova (which doesn't seem to
>have been recorded, but historical astronomy records are spotty in places),
>which led to it becoming the white dwarf we currently see.

But what about the big blue supergiant that we now see?
>
>Would require fairly coincidental timing, but we already know we had that with
>nearby _super_novae, a drought of which lasted from juuuust before the
>invention of the telescope (Kepler's, 1604) to a few decades ago when SN1987A
>popped in the Large Magellanic Cloud (and also showed up through neutrino
>astronomy). So not actually impossible.

Coincidences do happen.  I can see a supernova happening *just*
long enough ago that its light shines on Earth and fades out
*just* before anybody has a telescope.  But what about the big
blue supergiant?

I don't know nearly enough about star formation.  What is a
protostar befor it turns into a blue supergiant?  If one of those
were sitting in a big dust cloud, would the light reaching Earth 
look red?

Is there an astrophysicist in the house?

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#425479

In article <otAHwq.14zF@kithrup.com>,
 djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:

> In article <esqdnb_Sa6rvVPDEnZ2dnUU7-UfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> David DeLaney  <dbd@vic.com> wrote:
> >On 2017-07-11, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
> >> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
> >>>As for the colors of planets (as seen through atmosphrere from
> >>>Earth, mind you), there used to be a saying among classic (I mean
> >>>Greco-Roman times), that three astronomical objects shone red:
> >>>Sirius, Mars, and Jupiter (but not as red)  Sirius is certainly
> >>>not red today, and current astrophysics has no explanation for a
> >>>star turning from bright red to bright blue-white.  If ever I
> >>>meet an astrophysicist, I'll ask him/her, "What's your
> >>>hypothesis," and if the answer is "I haven't got one," I'll take
> >>>that as an honest answer.
> >>
> >> Three red objects?  How about Antares ("not Mars") and Betelguese?
> >
> >Astrophysics does have a hypothesis to cover that: namely, that in 
> >historical times Sirius B was a red giant, that there was a nova 
> >(which doesn't seem to have been recorded, but historical astronomy 
> >records are spotty in places), which led to it becoming the white 
> >dwarf we currently see.
> 
> But what about the big blue supergiant that we now see?

Sirius A is not a blue supergiant; it isn't even a giant, being a normal 
main-sequence A class star.

> >
> >Would require fairly coincidental timing, but we already know we had 
> >that with nearby _super_novae, a drought of which lasted from 
> >juuuust before the invention of the telescope (Kepler's, 1604) to a 
> >few decades ago when SN1987A popped in the Large Magellanic Cloud 
> >(and also showed up through neutrino astronomy). So not actually 
> >impossible.
> 
> Coincidences do happen.  I can see a supernova happening *just*
> long enough ago that its light shines on Earth and fades out
> *just* before anybody has a telescope. 

<snip>

> 
> Is there an astrophysicist in the house?

The Wikipedia article on the Sirius system 
(<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius> cites a paper in _The 
Astrophysical Journal_ 
(<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius#cite_note-Liebert2005-12>)that 
claims that Sirius B collapsed into a white dwarf about 120 million 
years ago.

-- 
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#425525

On 2017-07-18, Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> David DeLaney  <dbd@vic.com> wrote:
>>Astrophysics does have a hypothesis to cover that: namely, that in historical
>>times Sirius B was a red giant, that there was a nova (which doesn't seem to
>>have been recorded, but historical astronomy records are spotty in places),
>>which led to it becoming the white dwarf we currently see.
>
> But what about the big blue supergiant that we now see?

That's its partner, Sirius A, is it not?  ... no, Sirius A is a white main-
sequence, near our Sun's brightness, and is only the brightest visible star
for us because of its closeness. (And Wikipedia spikes my hypothesis,
apparently ~120 million years ago is currently accepted for Sirius B's nova.
Bah, back to the stellar-placement Lite-Brite!)

> Coincidences do happen.  I can see a supernova happening *just*
> long enough ago that its light shines on Earth and fades out
> *just* before anybody has a telescope.  But what about the big
> blue supergiant?

I am now not at all sure what you may be referring to. Checking, our nearest
known Big Blue is Rigel, in Orion, about 20 times Sol's mass. There is one in
Canis Major about 2000 light years away, but it's not Sirius.

> Is there an astrophysicist in the house?

Dave, no longer even plays a cousin of one in the sciences
-- 
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It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
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#423947

Whisper wrote:
> 
> On 4/07/2017 3:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > i'll explain to you what is
> >
> > Jupiter's Great Red Spot, and why it's red.
> >
> >
> > All planets surface is the color red. Earth is the only planet with a blue surface color.
> >
> >
> > Jupiter is simply making another red planet.
> >
> >
> > giving birth to a planet...
> 
> Giving birth through the rectal passage?
> 
> >
> >
> > Where do you think Mars came from?
> >
> 
> Mars is brown.  Point proven.
>

In order for Mars to be the color brown it would have to have Blue and
Yellow mixed with the Red to make Brown. There is no
Blue and Yellow organic pigments on Mars, so how can Mars be Brown????

whisper it to me...

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#423985

On 5/07/2017 5:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Whisper wrote:
>>
>> On 4/07/2017 3:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> i'll explain to you what is
>>>
>>> Jupiter's Great Red Spot, and why it's red.
>>>
>>>
>>> All planets surface is the color red. Earth is the only planet with a blue surface color.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jupiter is simply making another red planet.
>>>
>>>
>>> giving birth to a planet...
>>
>> Giving birth through the rectal passage?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where do you think Mars came from?
>>>
>>
>> Mars is brown.  Point proven.
>>
> 
> In order for Mars to be the color brown it would have to have Blue and
> Yellow mixed with the Red to make Brown. There is no
> Blue and Yellow organic pigments on Mars, so how can Mars be Brown????
> 
> whisper it to me...
>


Mars is definitely not red, mostly brown/tan;


"When rusty dust from those rocks gets kicked up in the atmosphere, it 
makes the martian sky look pink.
 From a long way away, the whole planet looks kind of reddish.
But if you get a close-up view -- with an orbiter, lander or rover -- 
you'll see that a lot of Mars is actually more of a butterscotch color.

Depending on what minerals are around, some landscapes can be more 
golden, brown, tan, or even a little greenish."


https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/video/details.php?id=1033





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#424040

Whisper wrote:
> 
> On 5/07/2017 5:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Whisper wrote:
> >>
> >> On 4/07/2017 3:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> i'll explain to you what is
> >>>
> >>> Jupiter's Great Red Spot, and why it's red.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> All planets surface is the color red. Earth is the only planet with a blue surface color.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jupiter is simply making another red planet.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> giving birth to a planet...
> >>
> >> Giving birth through the rectal passage?
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Where do you think Mars came from?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Mars is brown.  Point proven.
> >>
> >
> > In order for Mars to be the color brown it would have to have Blue and
> > Yellow mixed with the Red to make Brown. There is no
> > Blue and Yellow organic pigments on Mars, so how can Mars be Brown????
> >
> > whisper it to me...
> >
> 
> Mars is definitely not red, mostly brown/tan;
> 
> "When rusty dust from those rocks gets kicked up in the atmosphere, it
> makes the martian sky look pink.
>  From a long way away, the whole planet looks kind of reddish.
> But if you get a close-up view -- with an orbiter, lander or rover --
> you'll see that a lot of Mars is actually more of a butterscotch color.
> 
> Depending on what minerals are around, some landscapes can be more
> golden, brown, tan, or even a little greenish."
> 
> https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/video/details.php?id=1033

Where is the ...blueish?

greenish??? Don't you need Blue and Yellow to make...greenish?


Minerals are inorganic. 



i see where you're getting your info from...NASA fake news.








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#424298

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Whisper wrote:
> >
> > On 5/07/2017 5:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Whisper wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 4/07/2017 3:45 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>> i'll explain to you what is
> > >>>
> > >>> Jupiter's Great Red Spot, and why it's red.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> All planets surface is the color red. Earth is the only planet with a blue surface color.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Jupiter is simply making another red planet.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> giving birth to a planet...
> > >>
> > >> Giving birth through the rectal passage?
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Where do you think Mars came from?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Mars is brown.  Point proven.
> > >>
> > >
> > > In order for Mars to be the color brown it would have to have Blue and
> > > Yellow mixed with the Red to make Brown. There is no
> > > Blue and Yellow organic pigments on Mars, so how can Mars be Brown????
> > >
> > > whisper it to me...
> > >
> >
> > Mars is definitely not red, mostly brown/tan;
> >
> > "When rusty dust from those rocks gets kicked up in the atmosphere, it
> > makes the martian sky look pink.
> >  From a long way away, the whole planet looks kind of reddish.
> > But if you get a close-up view -- with an orbiter, lander or rover --
> > you'll see that a lot of Mars is actually more of a butterscotch color.
> >
> > Depending on what minerals are around, some landscapes can be more
> > golden, brown, tan, or even a little greenish."
> >
> > https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/video/details.php?id=1033
> 
> Where is the ...blueish?
> 
> greenish??? Don't you need Blue and Yellow to make...greenish?
> 
> Minerals are inorganic.
> 
> i see where you're getting your info from...NASA fake news.


In other words, you show me a planet out there with red, blue and yellow pigments in it's surface, and that planet contains Life.

Even if it has a single snowfake like ours, then that planet would contain Life.

If you're searching for Life on other planets, you don't need to search for water, just
a snowflake that look like ours, or the colors red, blue and yellow in the ground.










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I'm wondering what is the connection between a newgroup and an email? How does AVG see a newgroup post as an email?? 
Can a person send an email and it reaches a newsgroup???

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#423935

"The Starmaker"  wrote in message news:595A82D3.1A46@ix.netcom.com...

i'll explain to you what is

Jupiter's Great Red Spot, and why it's red.

All planets surface is the color red. Earth is the only planet with a blue 
surface color.

Jupiter is simply making another red planet.

giving birth to a planet...

Where do you think Mars came from?

this stuff is easy when you're a fucking genuies like me.


*** or not ... Is the Red Spot really RED ???

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/jupiters-great-red-spot-11182014/

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