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The Speed of Thought

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2017-04-22 11:37 -0700
Last post2017-04-27 19:12 -0700
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  The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-22 11:37 -0700
    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-23 04:35 +0000
      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-22 22:05 -0700
        Re: The Speed of Thought Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-04-23 14:23 +0200
          Re: The Speed of Thought djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-04-23 14:17 +0000
            Re: The Speed of Thought "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 11:07 -0400
              Re: The Speed of Thought djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-04-23 16:31 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 23:11 -0400
          Re: The Speed of Thought Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-04-23 10:14 -0600
            Re: The Speed of Thought Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 11:43 -0500
              Re: The Speed of Thought djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-04-23 20:36 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 19:56 -0500
            Re: The Speed of Thought djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-04-23 16:24 +0000
        Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-23 12:35 +0000
          Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-23 13:00 -0700
            Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-23 23:38 +0000
              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-23 21:15 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-23 22:38 -0700
                  Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-24 06:02 +0000
    Re: The Speed of Thought Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-24 16:55 +1000
      Re: The Speed of Thought Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:09 +0200
        Re: The Speed of Thought Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 19:37 +0000
      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-24 09:42 -0700
        Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-24 10:22 -0700
        Re: The Speed of Thought Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-25 12:03 +1000
          Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-25 00:16 -0700
            Re: The Speed of Thought Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-25 17:42 +1000
            Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 11:58 -0700
              Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 02:25 +0000
                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 20:49 -0700
                  Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 12:48 +0000
                    Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-28 10:37 -0700
                      Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 23:36 +0000
          Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 17:18 -0400
            Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-25 21:53 +0000
              Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-25 19:39 -0400
                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-26 04:36 +0000
                  Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-26 18:00 -0400
                    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-27 03:13 +0000
                      Re: The Speed of Thought benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 04:32 -0400
                        Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-27 14:46 +0000
                          Re: The Speed of Thought benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 11:29 -0400
                            Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-27 16:32 +0000
                              Re: The Speed of Thought benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 13:22 -0400
                                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 02:16 +0000
                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 11:43 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 03:39 -0700
                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 11:50 -0700
                    Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-27 17:21 -0400
                      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 23:16 -0700
                        Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 12:59 +0000
                          Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 09:55 -0700
                          Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-28 10:47 -0700
                            Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 23:54 +0000
                    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 02:24 +0000
                      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 23:18 -0700
                        Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 12:45 +0000
                          Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-28 10:38 -0700
                            Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 23:40 +0000
                              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-29 10:47 -0700
                                Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-02 05:05 -0700
                                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-02 12:37 -0700
                                    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-02 21:16 +0000
                                      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-03 10:21 -0700
                                        Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-04 13:29 +0000
                                          Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-04 15:10 -0700
                                            Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-06 11:03 +0000
                                              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-08 22:37 -0700
                                                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-09 08:00 -0500
                                                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-10 09:37 -0700
                                                    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-11 04:59 -0500
                                    Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 07:19 -0700
                                      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-04 15:07 -0700
                                        Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-04 23:42 -0700
                                      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-04 15:22 -0700
                                        Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 08:00 -0700
                                          Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-08 22:54 -0700
                                            Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 08:54 -0700
                                              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-09 23:23 -0700
                                                Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 06:03 -0700
                                                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-10 09:42 -0700
                                                    Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-10 15:45 -0700
                                                    Re: The Speed of Imagination The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-13 10:25 -0700
                                                      Re: The Speed of Imagination "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 10:42 -0700
                                                        Re: The Speed of Imagination The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-13 11:45 -0700
                                                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-11 12:52 -0700
                                                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-10 10:06 -0500
                                                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-10 10:45 -0700
                                                    Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-10 15:41 -0700
                                                    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-11 04:49 -0500
                                                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-14 12:43 -0700
                                                    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-14 17:39 -0500
                                                      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-14 21:51 -0700
                                                        Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-15 05:55 -0500
                                                          Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-15 11:20 -0700
                                                            Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-16 11:24 -0500
                                                              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-16 10:35 -0700
                                                                Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-16 12:52 -0700
                                                                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-16 13:08 -0700
                                                                    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-16 16:57 -0500
                                                                      Re: The Speed of Thought "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-16 15:09 -0700
                                                                        Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-17 10:03 -0700
                                                                          Re: The Speed of Thought "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:13 -0700
                                                                  Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-16 16:42 -0500
                                                                    Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-17 09:53 -0700
                                                                Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-16 16:40 -0500
                                                                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-05-17 10:01 -0700
                                                                    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-05-17 16:07 -0500
              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 11:41 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-27 17:20 -0400
                  Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 23:15 -0700
                    Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 12:57 +0000
                      Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-28 10:41 -0700
                        Re: The Speed of Thought Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-04-28 23:45 +0000
            Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 04:13 -0700
              Re: The Speed of Thought The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-27 11:53 -0700
                Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 10:07 -0700
    Re: The Speed of Thought SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2017-04-24 07:48 -0400
      Re: The Speed of Thought Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-24 20:36 +0200
        Re: The Speed of Thought Lintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri> - 2017-04-24 21:14 +0000
    Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 07:42 -0700
      Re: The Speed of Thought Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 06:05 -0700
    Re: The Speed of Thought John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-27 19:12 -0700

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#419687

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2017-05-16 15:09 -0700
Message-ID<b7d0e838-aa60-457b-bdfc-25bc83ceaca7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#419686
ScatMaker Scatted


<Snip Scattings>

Why do you persist in your Scatting here?

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#419751

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-05-17 10:03 -0700
Message-ID<591C8261.2580@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#419687
David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> 
> ScatMaker Scatted
> 
> <Snip Scattings>
> 
> Why do you persist in your Scatting here?



Why do you keep bring up Al Jolson????

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#419752

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2017-05-17 10:13 -0700
Message-ID<64e7a44a-48e8-4c42-8b35-fa1d7ff73366@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#419751
The Scatmaker Scatted 
David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: 
> 
- hide quoted text -
> ScatMaker Scatted 
> 
> <Snip Scattings> 
> 
> Why do you persist in your Scatting here?

Why do you keep bring up Al Jolson???? 

 scatology
[skuh-tol-uh-jee]
noun
the study of or preoccupation with excrement or obscenity.
obscenity, especially words or humor referring to excrement.

Scat = Feces

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#419685

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-05-16 16:42 -0500
Message-ID<slrnohmsj2.as1.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#419666
The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----smip----
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One cannot measure Time.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One can, howevber, measure duration.
>
> "duration" is "the length of time"

Wrong. It's an interval.

----snip----

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#419749

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-05-17 09:53 -0700
Message-ID<591C8007.256@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#419685
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----smip----
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > One cannot measure Time.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One can, howevber, measure duration.
> >
> > "duration" is "the length of time"
> 
> Wrong. It's an interval.
> 
> ----snip----


 noun
1.
the length of time

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/duration



I understand, you cut English classes...

ugly teacher, eh?

You shuda seen my english teacher, she was hott!

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#419683

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-05-16 16:40 -0500
Message-ID<slrnohmseg.as1.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#419658
The Starmaker wrote:

----snip----

Deduce:
> are you inferring I'm incompetent?

Tes.

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#419750

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-05-17 10:01 -0700
Message-ID<591C81F5.4315@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#419683
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> ----snip----
> 
> Deduce:
> > are you inferring I'm incompetent?
> 
> Tes.


I didn't write that sentence above..i don't know where you got it from:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/sci.physics.relativity/8sdHJCDpCV4/Hr-S4fywAwAJ


you losing it.

game over.

dead ned

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#419772

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-05-17 16:07 -0500
Message-ID<slrnohpes4.e7f.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#419750
The Starmaker wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > ----snip----
> > 
> > Deduce:
> > > are you inferring I'm incompetent?
> > 
> > Tes.
>
> I didn't write that sentence above..i don't know where you got it from:

Your meswsage <591B3867.232D@ix.netcom.com>. Your quote of the
Meriam-Webster definitions of "infer": quote 4, corrected.

> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/
> sci.physics.relativity/8sdHJCDpCV4/Hr-S4fywAwAJ

Wrong message, moron. Use the Message-ID: that's what it's for.

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#417435

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-04-27 11:41 -0700
Message-ID<59023B6B.3DA6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#417247
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> benj wrote:
> 
> ----snip----
> 
> > You need to think about this a bit more, sylvia. While obviously the
> > transmission speed of "thoughts" in organism is slow as determined by
> > action potential timing and other factors. But that does not consider
> > the OTHER question which would be given an ESP "remote viewing" is the
> > speed of transmission of information limited by the speed of light.
> > There are a number of indications and reports that might seem to
> > indicate it is not, but there are additional problems in that there
> > seems to be a certain looseness to time which could mean that
> > transmissions are at c but you are sensing the future so there is the
> > appearance of FTL transmissions. This is real science thought unlike all
> > the religious atheist clowns here who are all convinced that thoughts
> > occur ONLY within the brain cells. Feh.
> 
> Rubbish.
> 
> Thought is a function of Mind. If you wish to assert that Mind can
> exist apart from Brain, postulate it explicitly, and show cause to
> accept your postulate.


Thought is not a function of the mind...it is a product of the brain.
It's information...processed by a brain.

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#417465

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2017-04-27 17:20 -0400
Message-ID<5902608b$0$60257$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#417435
On 4/27/2017 2:41 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
>>
>> benj wrote:
>>
>> ----snip----
>>
>>> You need to think about this a bit more, sylvia. While obviously the
>>> transmission speed of "thoughts" in organism is slow as determined by
>>> action potential timing and other factors. But that does not consider
>>> the OTHER question which would be given an ESP "remote viewing" is the
>>> speed of transmission of information limited by the speed of light.
>>> There are a number of indications and reports that might seem to
>>> indicate it is not, but there are additional problems in that there
>>> seems to be a certain looseness to time which could mean that
>>> transmissions are at c but you are sensing the future so there is the
>>> appearance of FTL transmissions. This is real science thought unlike all
>>> the religious atheist clowns here who are all convinced that thoughts
>>> occur ONLY within the brain cells. Feh.
>>
>> Rubbish.
>>
>> Thought is a function of Mind. If you wish to assert that Mind can
>> exist apart from Brain, postulate it explicitly, and show cause to
>> accept your postulate.
>
>
> Thought is not a function of the mind...it is a product of the brain.
> It's information...processed by a brain.
>
And the way you know that thought is purely biological is?

Ah, Superpowers.

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#417525

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-04-27 23:15 -0700
Message-ID<5902DE17.75E2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#417465
benj wrote:
> 
> On 4/27/2017 2:41 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:
> >>
> >> benj wrote:
> >>
> >> ----snip----
> >>
> >>> You need to think about this a bit more, sylvia. While obviously the
> >>> transmission speed of "thoughts" in organism is slow as determined by
> >>> action potential timing and other factors. But that does not consider
> >>> the OTHER question which would be given an ESP "remote viewing" is the
> >>> speed of transmission of information limited by the speed of light.
> >>> There are a number of indications and reports that might seem to
> >>> indicate it is not, but there are additional problems in that there
> >>> seems to be a certain looseness to time which could mean that
> >>> transmissions are at c but you are sensing the future so there is the
> >>> appearance of FTL transmissions. This is real science thought unlike all
> >>> the religious atheist clowns here who are all convinced that thoughts
> >>> occur ONLY within the brain cells. Feh.
> >>
> >> Rubbish.
> >>
> >> Thought is a function of Mind. If you wish to assert that Mind can
> >> exist apart from Brain, postulate it explicitly, and show cause to
> >> accept your postulate.
> >
> >
> > Thought is not a function of the mind...it is a product of the brain.
> > It's information...processed by a brain.
> >
> And the way you know that thought is purely biological is?
> 
> Ah, Superpowers.

Thought is physics, not philosophy.

You don't put philosophy throught telephone lines..

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#417545

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-04-28 12:57 +0000
Message-ID<slrnog6f1s.6cf.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#417525
The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:

----snip----

> > > Thought is a function of Mind. If you wish to assert that Mind can
> > > exist apart from Brain, postulate it explicitly, and show cause to
> > > accept your postulate.
> >
> > Thought is not a function of the mind

Wrong.

> > ...it is a product of the brain.

Mind is a product of the brain. Thought is a function of mind.

> > It's information...processed by a brain.

So are mathematics, the heroin rush, Quo Vadis...
Try not to be so simplistic.

> Thought is physics, not philosophy.
>
> You don't put philosophy through telephone lines..

Same goes for physics.

What you put through telephone lines is information.

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#417570

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-04-28 10:41 -0700
Message-ID<59037EB6.52FC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#417545
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> ----snip----
> 
> > > > Thought is a function of Mind. If you wish to assert that Mind can
> > > > exist apart from Brain, postulate it explicitly, and show cause to
> > > > accept your postulate.
> > >
> > > Thought is not a function of the mind
> 
> Wrong.
> 
> > > ...it is a product of the brain.
> 
> Mind is a product of the brain. Thought is a function of mind.


you british have thing thing all backwards...


put some ice in your water.

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#417607

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-04-28 23:45 +0000
Message-ID<slrnog7kvt.ojp.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#417570
The Starmaker wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> >
> > ----snip----
> >
> > > > > Thought is a function of Mind. If you wish to assert that Mind can
> > > > > exist apart from Brain, postulate it explicitly, and show cause to
> > > > > accept your postulate.
> > > >
> > > > Thought is not a function of the mind
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > > > ...it is a product of the brain.
> >
> > Mind is a product of the brain. Thought is a function of mind.
>
> you british have thing thing all backwards...

I'm not British.

> put some ice in your water.

Have to melt some ice first.

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#417290

FromJonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-26 04:13 -0700
Message-ID<4a72869d-f407-413b-a825-93ef9b8b7690@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417238
How many charged particles does it take to emit a photon.
How many charged particles does it take to absorb a photon?

I would postulate that it takes two.

When photons are absorbed, it is common to say 
(at least as approximation)
that a single electron can absorb the radiant energy
And the energy goes from the photon to the electron.

If a proton is involved, then 
because it's mass is 1800 times as great as the electron, 
any acceleration it undergoes will be insignificant.

However, in most cases of chemical emission,
it is a matter of the electron moving 
from one valence shell to another valence shell, 
inside an atom, or conductor, or semiconductor
The ratio in mass of the electron,
to the mass of particles making up its environment
is miniscule.

The photon applies an impulse to the electron,
Does it apply an equal and opposite impulse to the substrate?

If the photon interacts only with the electron, 
then the absorption of a photon is a single event.

But if the photon interacts with both the electron and the substrate
like a torque or a strain,
then the two impulses mark two simultaneous events.

Such an idea seems unproblematic,
that two simultaneous events could have the same cause.

However, is it possible to generate a photon from two simultaneous events?
Or rather, is it a general rule, 
that photons emit 
when two accelerations spontaneously and simultaneously occur?

Or does the electron spontaneously drop into a lower valence
followed later by an equal and opposite impulse on the substrate?

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#417439

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-04-27 11:53 -0700
Message-ID<59023E44.193D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#417290
Jonathan Doolin wrote:
> 
> How many charged particles does it take to emit a photon.
> How many charged particles does it take to absorb a photon?
> 
> I would postulate that it takes two.
> 
> When photons are absorbed, it is common to say
> (at least as approximation)
> that a single electron can absorb the radiant energy
> And the energy goes from the photon to the electron.
> 
> If a proton is involved, then
> because it's mass is 1800 times as great as the electron,
> any acceleration it undergoes will be insignificant.
> 
> However, in most cases of chemical emission,
> it is a matter of the electron moving
> from one valence shell to another valence shell,
> inside an atom, or conductor, or semiconductor
> The ratio in mass of the electron,
> to the mass of particles making up its environment
> is miniscule.
> 
> The photon applies an impulse to the electron,
> Does it apply an equal and opposite impulse to the substrate?
> 
> If the photon interacts only with the electron,
> then the absorption of a photon is a single event.
> 
> But if the photon interacts with both the electron and the substrate
> like a torque or a strain,
> then the two impulses mark two simultaneous events.
> 
> Such an idea seems unproblematic,
> that two simultaneous events could have the same cause.
> 
> However, is it possible to generate a photon from two simultaneous events?
> Or rather, is it a general rule,
> that photons emit
> when two accelerations spontaneously and simultaneously occur?
> 
> Or does the electron spontaneously drop into a lower valence
> followed later by an equal and opposite impulse on the substrate?



you're not going to get any funding with that kind of talk...

you'll get just thrown out into the streets...with Mike!

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#417567

FromJonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-28 10:07 -0700
Message-ID<6983fb9d-197f-4964-8dae-89dbb6614af1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#417439
On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 1:54:02 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jonathan Doolin wrote:
> > 
> > How many charged particles does it take to emit a photon.
> > How many charged particles does it take to absorb a photon?
> > 
> > I would postulate that it takes two.
> > 
> > When photons are absorbed, it is common to say
> > (at least as approximation)
> > that a single electron can absorb the radiant energy
> > And the energy goes from the photon to the electron.
> > 
> > If a proton is involved, then
> > because it's mass is 1800 times as great as the electron,
> > any acceleration it undergoes will be insignificant.
> > 
> > However, in most cases of chemical emission,
> > it is a matter of the electron moving
> > from one valence shell to another valence shell,
> > inside an atom, or conductor, or semiconductor
> > The ratio in mass of the electron,
> > to the mass of particles making up its environment
> > is miniscule.
> > 
> > The photon applies an impulse to the electron,
> > Does it apply an equal and opposite impulse to the substrate?
> > 
> > If the photon interacts only with the electron,
> > then the absorption of a photon is a single event.
> > 
> > But if the photon interacts with both the electron and the substrate
> > like a torque or a strain,
> > then the two impulses mark two simultaneous events.
> > 
> > Such an idea seems unproblematic,
> > that two simultaneous events could have the same cause.
> > 
> > However, is it possible to generate a photon from two simultaneous events?
> > Or rather, is it a general rule,
> > that photons emit
> > when two accelerations spontaneously and simultaneously occur?
> > 
> > Or does the electron spontaneously drop into a lower valence
> > followed later by an equal and opposite impulse on the substrate?
> 
> 
> 
> you're not going to get any funding with that kind of talk...
> 
> you'll get just thrown out into the streets...with Mike!

https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/horse.htm

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#417048

FromSteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net>
Date2017-04-24 07:48 -0400
Message-ID<haprfcllsstivpcm6f12g9gao7d11vkclm@4ax.com>
In reply to#416894
OK, so for galaxy sized brains ( God's ? ), thinking must be extremely
slow, since it takes hundreds of thousands of years for just one trip
from one side of the brain to the other !

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#417103

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2017-04-24 20:36 +0200
Message-ID<2215670.GVCavpnEZW@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#417048
SteveGG amok-crossposted across 4 newsgroups without Followup-To:

> OK, so for galaxy sized brains ( God's ? ), thinking must be extremely
> slow, since it takes hundreds of thousands of years for just one trip
> from one side of the brain to the other !

This is strong indication that there no such _gods_ :)

F'up2 rec.arts.sf.written

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#417132

FromLintervallen Ruther <rt@lweaevte.ri>
Date2017-04-24 21:14 +0000
Message-ID<odlprn$u8i$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#417103
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> SteveGG amok-crossposted across 4 newsgroups without Followup-To:
> 
>> OK, so for galaxy sized brains ( God's ? ), thinking must be extremely
>> slow, since it takes hundreds of thousands of years for just one trip
>> from one side of the brain to the other !
> 
> This is strong indication that there no such _gods_

It's not, stupid. It doesn't need to be reach galaxy size. Everything 
larger than the average, right now, can only be bad. Learn to english, my 
vociferous friend.

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