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The Edge Of The Universe

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2017-02-06 22:51 -0800
Last post2017-02-12 15:37 -0800
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  The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-06 22:51 -0800
    The Edge Of The Universe "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-06 22:59 -0800
      Re: The Edge Of The Universe "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-02-07 20:19 +1100
    Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-07 08:36 +0000
      Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-07 09:55 -0800
        Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-07 21:36 +0000
          Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-07 17:14 -0800
            Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-07 17:22 -0800
            Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-08 05:03 +0000
              Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-08 11:32 -0800
                Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-08 23:32 +0000
              Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-09 11:01 -0800
                Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-10 06:51 +0000
    Re: The Edge Of The Universe Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:24 -0800
      Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-07 12:21 -0800
        Re: The Edge Of The Universe "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-02-08 12:23 +1100
          Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-08 11:40 -0800
            Re: The Edge Of The Universe "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-02-09 20:08 +1100
              Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-09 10:26 -0800
                Re: The Edge Of The Universe "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-02-10 17:29 +1100
                  Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-09 23:31 -0800
                Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-12 11:05 -0800
                  Re: The Edge Of The Universe "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 13:53 -0800
                  Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-12 15:37 -0800

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#408193 — The Edge Of The Universe

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-06 22:51 -0800
SubjectThe Edge Of The Universe
Message-ID<58996E63.7C5D@ix.netcom.com>
Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.


Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..

and you stop when you get to the edge..

you put your hand on the wall..

it shouldn't go through the wall because
you're at the edge, the border..

your hand should stop right at the border, the edge of the universe.


Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe.

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#408194

From"David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2017-02-06 22:59 -0800
Message-ID<52598225-3666-4f4e-a9b9-25eb2b38fc30@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#408193
You are already at the edge, always at the edge, part of the edge. 

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#408204

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-02-07 20:19 +1100
Message-ID<o7c3ft$t8a$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#408194
On 07/02/17 17:59, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> You are already at the edge, always at the edge, part of the edge.

There are no 'beginnings' or 'endings' in nature or mathematics. They 
are human concepts.

Space, ie.., 'nothing', can be represented by a set of mathematical axes 
that go to infinity. Regions within those axes are occupied by stuff we 
call matter. There is no limit to how far apart lumps of matter can be.



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#408197

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-02-07 08:36 +0000
Message-ID<slrno9j1p6.6mj.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#408193
The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.

Og course not.

> Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..

...and fall off.

----snip----

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#408253

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-07 09:55 -0800
Message-ID<589A0A19.7401@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#408197
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> 
> Og course not.
> 
> > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> 
> ...and fall off.
> 
> ----snip----


Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : the line or part where an object or area begins or ends. :
 a point near the beginning or the end




The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> 
> Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> 
> and you stop when you get to the edge..
> 
> you put your hand on the wall..
> 
> it shouldn't go through the wall because
> you're at the edge, the border..
> 
> your hand should stop right at the border, the edge of the universe.
> 
> Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe.


So, you're at the edge of the universe, the end..you should have no problem taking your hand and feel the wall.


If you don't feel the wall, keep going till you hit the wall. Then, you have reached the edge of the universe.

Even at the beginning it stops..a point where nothing beyond exist. It stops.



Start, stop. It's very simple.

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#408280

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-02-07 21:36 +0000
Message-ID<slrno9kffb.r4s.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#408253
The Starmaker wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> >
> > Og course not.
> >
> > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> >
> > ...and fall off.
>
> Definition of edge for English Language Learners. :

Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt!

Ned

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#408319

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-07 17:14 -0800
Message-ID<589A70E2.4C4F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#408280
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> > >
> > > Og course not.
> > >
> > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> > >
> > > ...and fall off.
> >
> > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. :
> 
> Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt!
> 
> Ned


In order to put your hand on the wall...you need to go to the edge of
the room.



Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall.



How can yous get to the edge of the universe if you don't even know what
"edge" means???



Turn around, do you see the wall...where is it? Is it in the middle of
the room or the edge of the room?


practice, practice, practice touching a wall before you go the the ends
of the universe...


a blind man can find the wall...

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#408322

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-07 17:22 -0800
Message-ID<589A72DC.25C6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#408319
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Ned Latham wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> > > >
> > > > Og course not.
> > > >
> > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> > > >
> > > > ...and fall off.
> > >
> > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. :
> >
> > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt!
> >
> > Ned
> 
> In order to put your hand on the wall...you need to go to the edge of
> the room.
> 
> Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall.
> 
> How can yous get to the edge of the universe if you don't even know what
> "edge" means???
> 
> Turn around, do you see the wall...where is it? Is it in the middle of
> the room or the edge of the room?
> 
> practice, practice, practice touching a wall before you go the the ends
> of the universe...
> 
> a blind man can find the wall...


okay, try crawling on the floor until your head hits the wall...

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#408349

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-02-08 05:03 +0000
Message-ID<slrno9l9kf.40r.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#408319
The Starmaker wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> > > >
> > > > Og course not.
> > > >
> > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> > > >
> > > > ...and fall off.
> > >
> > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. :
> >
> > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt!

----snip----

> Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall.

Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off!

ROTFLMAO!

Ned

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#408429

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-08 11:32 -0800
Message-ID<589B7245.15D8@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#408349
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> > > > >
> > > > > Og course not.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> > > > >
> > > > > ...and fall off.
> > > >
> > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. :
> > >
> > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt!
> 
> ----snip----
> 
> > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall.
> 
> Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off!
> 
> ROTFLMAO!
> 
> Ned


opps, sorry...modern physics is above your level of expertise.

go to the back of the class...

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#408480

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-02-08 23:32 +0000
Message-ID<slrno9nal8.ii1.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#408429
The Starmaker wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Og course not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...and fall off.
> > > > >
> > > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. :
> > > >
> > > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt!
> >
> > ----snip----
> >
> > > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall.
> >
> > Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off!
> >
> > ROTFLMAO!
>
> opps, sorry...modern physics is above your level of expertise.

You never fell off the edge? Jeez. How fuckin' iggerent can you get?

Ned

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#408648

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-09 11:01 -0800
Message-ID<589CBC7A.C23@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#408349
Ned Latham wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> > > > >
> > > > > Og course not.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> > > > >
> > > > > ...and fall off.
> > > >
> > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. :
> > >
> > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt!
> 
> ----snip----
> 
> > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall.
> 
> Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off!
> 
> ROTFLMAO!
> 
> Ned



i'm not from .oz but i suspect your inglish there is a little
different..


wat does the word "world" mean to you in .oz, is that earth or the
universe???? or Kansas?

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#408688

FromNed Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
Date2017-02-10 06:51 +0000
Message-ID<slrno9qood.em0.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>
In reply to#408648
The Starmaker wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Og course not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...and fall off.
> > > > >
> > > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. :
> > > >
> > > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt!
> >
> > ----snip----
> >
> > > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall.
> >
> > Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off!
> >
> > ROTFLMAO!
>
> wat does the word "world" mean to you in .oz, is that earth
> or the universe? or Kansas?

Kansas and all that surrounds it.

Once you reach the edge of the mesa, you'll ... fall off!

RITFL!

Ned

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#408255

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-07 10:24 -0800
Message-ID<01a82e60-274e-4362-a4ec-5210db5bb5af@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#408193
On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 8:51:09 PM UTC-10, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> 
> 
> Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> 
> and you stop when you get to the edge..
> 
> you put your hand on the wall..
> 
> it shouldn't go through the wall because
> you're at the edge, the border..
> 
> your hand should stop right at the border, the edge of the universe.
> 
> 
> Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe.

The edge of the universe is growing away from matter. When your body 
puts its hand on the edge wall, the wall grows away, expanding at the
speed c. You would cause expansion of the edge away from you.

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#408272

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-07 12:21 -0800
Message-ID<589A2C59.2AE1@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#408255
Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> 
> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 8:51:09 PM UTC-10, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't.
> >
> >
> > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe..
> >
> > and you stop when you get to the edge..
> >
> > you put your hand on the wall..
> >
> > it shouldn't go through the wall because
> > you're at the edge, the border..
> >
> > your hand should stop right at the border, the edge of the universe.
> >
> >
> > Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe.
> 
> The edge of the universe is growing away from matter. When your body
> puts its hand on the edge wall, the wall grows away, expanding at the
> speed c. You would cause expansion of the edge away from you.

what is expanding the universe or space????


if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it
means
the speed of light is not a problem to me.

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#408323

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-02-08 12:23 +1100
Message-ID<o7drug$1unb$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#408272
On 08/02/17 07:21, The Starmaker wrote:
> Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>>>
>>> Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe.
>>
>> The edge of the universe is growing away from matter. When your body
>> puts its hand on the edge wall, the wall grows away, expanding at the
>> speed c. You would cause expansion of the edge away from you.
>
> what is expanding the universe or space????
>
>
> if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it
> means
> the speed of light is not a problem to me.

'Nothing' has no edges.

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#408430

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-08 11:40 -0800
Message-ID<589B7416.42C6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#408323
HGW... DSc. wrote:
> 
> On 08/02/17 07:21, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe.
> >>
> >> The edge of the universe is growing away from matter. When your body
> >> puts its hand on the edge wall, the wall grows away, expanding at the
> >> speed c. You would cause expansion of the edge away from you.
> >
> > what is expanding the universe or space????
> >
> >
> > if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it
> > means
> > the speed of light is not a problem to me.
> 
> 'Nothing' has no edges.
> 
> --

There is nothing beyond the wall. I'm refering to within the wall..

that area of the room you are in called the universe.

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#408544

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-02-09 20:08 +1100
Message-ID<o7hbhv$6vq$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#408430
On 09/02/17 06:40, The Starmaker wrote:
> HGW... DSc. wrote:

>>>
>>>
>>> if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it
>>> means
>>> the speed of light is not a problem to me.
>>
>> 'Nothing' has no edges.
>>
>> --
>
> There is nothing beyond the wall. I'm refering to within the wall..
>
> that area of the room you are in called the universe.

Don't you know what 'absolutely nothing' would look like? It isn't space 
yet it is what most of space is made of. 'Nothing' can be represented by 
three axes at right angles that extend to infinity. Regions inside those 
axes contain matter, and energy...for reasons unknown. There are no 
walls. 'Nothing' is like a 6D Klein Bottle.

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#408642

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-02-09 10:26 -0800
Message-ID<589CB468.3159@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#408544
HGW... DSc. wrote:
> 
> On 09/02/17 06:40, The Starmaker wrote:
> > HGW... DSc. wrote:
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it
> >>> means
> >>> the speed of light is not a problem to me.
> >>
> >> 'Nothing' has no edges.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> > There is nothing beyond the wall. I'm refering to within the wall..
> >
> > that area of the room you are in called the universe.
> 
> Don't you know what 'absolutely nothing' would look like? It isn't space
> yet it is what most of space is made of. 'Nothing' can be represented by
> three axes at right angles that extend to infinity. Regions inside those
> axes contain matter, and energy...for reasons unknown. There are no
> walls. 'Nothing' is like a 6D Klein Bottle.
> 
> --


the particles in space is smaller than the partices on earth.

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#408685

From"HGW... DSc." <hgw@....>
Date2017-02-10 17:29 +1100
Message-ID<o7jmjb$1ts4$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#408642
On 10/02/17 05:26, The Starmaker wrote:
> HGW... DSc. wrote:

>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> There is nothing beyond the wall. I'm refering to within the wall..
>>>
>>> that area of the room you are in called the universe.
>>
>> Don't you know what 'absolutely nothing' would look like? It isn't space
>> yet it is what most of space is made of. 'Nothing' can be represented by
>> three axes at right angles that extend to infinity. Regions inside those
>> axes contain matter, and energy...for reasons unknown. There are no
>> walls. 'Nothing' is like a 6D Klein Bottle.
>>
>> --
>
>
> the particles in space is smaller than the partices on earth.

I could make a comment about your brain cells...



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