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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2017-02-06 22:51 -0800 |
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The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-06 22:51 -0800
The Edge Of The Universe "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-06 22:59 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-02-07 20:19 +1100
Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-07 08:36 +0000
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-07 09:55 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-07 21:36 +0000
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-07 17:14 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-07 17:22 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-08 05:03 +0000
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-08 11:32 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-08 23:32 +0000
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-09 11:01 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-10 06:51 +0000
Re: The Edge Of The Universe Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 10:24 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-07 12:21 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-02-08 12:23 +1100
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-08 11:40 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-02-09 20:08 +1100
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-09 10:26 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> - 2017-02-10 17:29 +1100
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-09 23:31 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-12 11:05 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 13:53 -0800
Re: The Edge Of The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-02-12 15:37 -0800
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 22:51 -0800 |
| Subject | The Edge Of The Universe |
| Message-ID | <58996E63.7C5D@ix.netcom.com> |
Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. and you stop when you get to the edge.. you put your hand on the wall.. it shouldn't go through the wall because you're at the edge, the border.. your hand should stop right at the border, the edge of the universe. Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe.
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| From | "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 22:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <52598225-3666-4f4e-a9b9-25eb2b38fc30@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #408193 |
You are already at the edge, always at the edge, part of the edge.
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 20:19 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7c3ft$t8a$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #408194 |
On 07/02/17 17:59, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote: > You are already at the edge, always at the edge, part of the edge. There are no 'beginnings' or 'endings' in nature or mathematics. They are human concepts. Space, ie.., 'nothing', can be represented by a set of mathematical axes that go to infinity. Regions within those axes are occupied by stuff we call matter. There is no limit to how far apart lumps of matter can be. --
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 08:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno9j1p6.6mj.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #408193 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. Og course not. > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. ...and fall off. ----snip----
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 09:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <589A0A19.7401@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #408197 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > Og course not. > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > ...and fall off. > > ----snip---- Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : the line or part where an object or area begins or ends. : a point near the beginning or the end The Starmaker wrote: > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > and you stop when you get to the edge.. > > you put your hand on the wall.. > > it shouldn't go through the wall because > you're at the edge, the border.. > > your hand should stop right at the border, the edge of the universe. > > Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe. So, you're at the edge of the universe, the end..you should have no problem taking your hand and feel the wall. If you don't feel the wall, keep going till you hit the wall. Then, you have reached the edge of the universe. Even at the beginning it stops..a point where nothing beyond exist. It stops. Start, stop. It's very simple.
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 21:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno9kffb.r4s.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #408253 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > > Og course not. > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > > > ...and fall off. > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt! Ned
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 17:14 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <589A70E2.4C4F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #408280 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > > > > Og course not. > > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > > > > > ...and fall off. > > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt! > > Ned In order to put your hand on the wall...you need to go to the edge of the room. Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall. How can yous get to the edge of the universe if you don't even know what "edge" means??? Turn around, do you see the wall...where is it? Is it in the middle of the room or the edge of the room? practice, practice, practice touching a wall before you go the the ends of the universe... a blind man can find the wall...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 17:22 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <589A72DC.25C6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #408319 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > > > > > > Og course not. > > > > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > > > > > > > ...and fall off. > > > > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : > > > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt! > > > > Ned > > In order to put your hand on the wall...you need to go to the edge of > the room. > > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall. > > How can yous get to the edge of the universe if you don't even know what > "edge" means??? > > Turn around, do you see the wall...where is it? Is it in the middle of > the room or the edge of the room? > > practice, practice, practice touching a wall before you go the the ends > of the universe... > > a blind man can find the wall... okay, try crawling on the floor until your head hits the wall...
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-02-08 05:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno9l9kf.40r.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #408319 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > > > > > > Og course not. > > > > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > > > > > > > ...and fall off. > > > > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : > > > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt! ----snip---- > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall. Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off! ROTFLMAO! Ned
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-08 11:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <589B7245.15D8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #408349 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > Og course not. > > > > > > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > > > > > > > > > ...and fall off. > > > > > > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : > > > > > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt! > > ----snip---- > > > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall. > > Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off! > > ROTFLMAO! > > Ned opps, sorry...modern physics is above your level of expertise. go to the back of the class...
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-02-08 23:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno9nal8.ii1.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #408429 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > Og course not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and fall off. > > > > > > > > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : > > > > > > > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt! > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall. > > > > Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off! > > > > ROTFLMAO! > > opps, sorry...modern physics is above your level of expertise. You never fell off the edge? Jeez. How fuckin' iggerent can you get? Ned
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-09 11:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <589CBC7A.C23@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #408349 |
Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > Og course not. > > > > > > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > > > > > > > > > ...and fall off. > > > > > > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : > > > > > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt! > > ----snip---- > > > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall. > > Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off! > > ROTFLMAO! > > Ned i'm not from .oz but i suspect your inglish there is a little different.. wat does the word "world" mean to you in .oz, is that earth or the universe???? or Kansas?
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 06:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno9qood.em0.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #408648 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > Og course not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and fall off. > > > > > > > > > > Definition of edge for English Language Learners. : > > > > > > > > Jeezuz, you're a leaden dolt! > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > Once you reach the edge of the room, you'll find a wall. > > > > Once you reach the edge of the world, you'll ... fall off! > > > > ROTFLMAO! > > wat does the word "world" mean to you in .oz, is that earth > or the universe? or Kansas? Kansas and all that surrounds it. Once you reach the edge of the mesa, you'll ... fall off! RITFL! Ned
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| From | Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 10:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <01a82e60-274e-4362-a4ec-5210db5bb5af@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #408193 |
On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 8:51:09 PM UTC-10, The Starmaker wrote: > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > and you stop when you get to the edge.. > > you put your hand on the wall.. > > it shouldn't go through the wall because > you're at the edge, the border.. > > your hand should stop right at the border, the edge of the universe. > > > Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe. The edge of the universe is growing away from matter. When your body puts its hand on the edge wall, the wall grows away, expanding at the speed c. You would cause expansion of the edge away from you.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 12:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <589A2C59.2AE1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #408255 |
Alan Folmsbee wrote: > > On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 8:51:09 PM UTC-10, The Starmaker wrote: > > Sounds like a science fiction story...but it isn't. > > > > > > Lets say you go to the edge of the universe.. > > > > and you stop when you get to the edge.. > > > > you put your hand on the wall.. > > > > it shouldn't go through the wall because > > you're at the edge, the border.. > > > > your hand should stop right at the border, the edge of the universe. > > > > > > Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe. > > The edge of the universe is growing away from matter. When your body > puts its hand on the edge wall, the wall grows away, expanding at the > speed c. You would cause expansion of the edge away from you. what is expanding the universe or space???? if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it means the speed of light is not a problem to me.
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-02-08 12:23 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7drug$1unb$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #408272 |
On 08/02/17 07:21, The Starmaker wrote: > Alan Folmsbee wrote: >>> >>> Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe. >> >> The edge of the universe is growing away from matter. When your body >> puts its hand on the edge wall, the wall grows away, expanding at the >> speed c. You would cause expansion of the edge away from you. > > what is expanding the universe or space???? > > > if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it > means > the speed of light is not a problem to me. 'Nothing' has no edges. --
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-08 11:40 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <589B7416.42C6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #408323 |
HGW... DSc. wrote: > > On 08/02/17 07:21, The Starmaker wrote: > > Alan Folmsbee wrote: > >>> > >>> Very simply, if your hand passes the wall, you have not yet reached the edge of the universe. > >> > >> The edge of the universe is growing away from matter. When your body > >> puts its hand on the edge wall, the wall grows away, expanding at the > >> speed c. You would cause expansion of the edge away from you. > > > > what is expanding the universe or space???? > > > > > > if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it > > means > > the speed of light is not a problem to me. > > 'Nothing' has no edges. > > -- There is nothing beyond the wall. I'm refering to within the wall.. that area of the room you are in called the universe.
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-02-09 20:08 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7hbhv$6vq$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #408430 |
On 09/02/17 06:40, The Starmaker wrote: > HGW... DSc. wrote: >>> >>> >>> if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it >>> means >>> the speed of light is not a problem to me. >> >> 'Nothing' has no edges. >> >> -- > > There is nothing beyond the wall. I'm refering to within the wall.. > > that area of the room you are in called the universe. Don't you know what 'absolutely nothing' would look like? It isn't space yet it is what most of space is made of. 'Nothing' can be represented by three axes at right angles that extend to infinity. Regions inside those axes contain matter, and energy...for reasons unknown. There are no walls. 'Nothing' is like a 6D Klein Bottle. --
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-09 10:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <589CB468.3159@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #408544 |
HGW... DSc. wrote: > > On 09/02/17 06:40, The Starmaker wrote: > > HGW... DSc. wrote: > > >>> > >>> > >>> if i am at the edge of the universe placing my hand on the wall, it > >>> means > >>> the speed of light is not a problem to me. > >> > >> 'Nothing' has no edges. > >> > >> -- > > > > There is nothing beyond the wall. I'm refering to within the wall.. > > > > that area of the room you are in called the universe. > > Don't you know what 'absolutely nothing' would look like? It isn't space > yet it is what most of space is made of. 'Nothing' can be represented by > three axes at right angles that extend to infinity. Regions inside those > axes contain matter, and energy...for reasons unknown. There are no > walls. 'Nothing' is like a 6D Klein Bottle. > > -- the particles in space is smaller than the partices on earth.
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| From | "HGW... DSc." <hgw@....> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 17:29 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7jmjb$1ts4$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #408642 |
On 10/02/17 05:26, The Starmaker wrote: > HGW... DSc. wrote: >>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> There is nothing beyond the wall. I'm refering to within the wall.. >>> >>> that area of the room you are in called the universe. >> >> Don't you know what 'absolutely nothing' would look like? It isn't space >> yet it is what most of space is made of. 'Nothing' can be represented by >> three axes at right angles that extend to infinity. Regions inside those >> axes contain matter, and energy...for reasons unknown. There are no >> walls. 'Nothing' is like a 6D Klein Bottle. >> >> -- > > > the particles in space is smaller than the partices on earth. I could make a comment about your brain cells... --
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