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1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says

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  1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 19:24 -0700
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 11:38 -0700
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 11:53 -0700
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 12:00 -0700
    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-10-02 09:02 -0400
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:26 -0400
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 16:56 +0000
          Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-10-02 19:53 -0400
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-03 13:41 -0700
            Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-05 17:37 +0200
              Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-05 11:20 -0700
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-05 17:36 +0200
    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-09 21:50 -0700
    Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-13 18:49 -0700
      Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-13 22:40 -0700
        Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-14 10:49 -0700

#394446 — 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
Subject1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
Message-ID<57EEEA3E.5698@ix.netcom.com>
1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says 
http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html



Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???

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#394455

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-30 19:24 -0700
Message-ID<57EF1E4C.2CA6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394446
Serigo wrote:
> 
> On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
> > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
> >
> 
> no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars.


you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the
odds on that????


then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds
on that????



Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint

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#394502

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-01 11:38 -0700
Message-ID<57F0029A.6DCE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394455
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Serigo wrote:
> >
> > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
> > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
> > >
> >
> > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars.
> 
> you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the
> odds on that????
> 
> then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds
> on that????
> 
> Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint



So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct?




I mean, if you ask Elon Musk "Would you go on the first flight to Mars?" He would probably say..


"ARE YOU FUCKIN NUTS! DO YOU THINK I'M FUCKING STUPID!!!"


"I'M NOT FUCKIN PREPARED TO DIE!!!!"

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http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/51-l/docs/rogers-commission/Appendix-F.txt

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#394505

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-01 11:53 -0700
Message-ID<57F00640.6617@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394502
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Serigo wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
> > > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
> > > >
> > >
> > > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars.
> >
> > you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the
> > odds on that????
> >
> > then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds
> > on that????
> >
> > Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint
> 
> So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct?


and no fat people

and bring your own snacks..



and since by now most of yous believe every planet has an underground/subsurface/underneath/underthere/lookunder

an underground ocean..

that means just dig a hole
and live underground..there is plenty of oxygen
there from the ocean's plants.


...thata means any aliens from outer space would have to
be stupid too.

First thing they'll ask, "How do you taste?"

I'll tell them, "Go to China, you'll like Chineese food."

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#394508

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-01 12:00 -0700
Message-ID<57F007EB.7031@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394502
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Serigo wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says
> > > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
> > > >
> > >
> > > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars.
> >
> > you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the
> > odds on that????
> >
> > then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds
> > on that????
> >
> > Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint
> 
> So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct?
> 
> I mean, if you ask Elon Musk "Would you go on the first flight to Mars?" He would probably say..
> 
> "ARE YOU FUCKIN NUTS! DO YOU THINK I'M FUCKING STUPID!!!"
> 
> "I'M NOT FUCKIN PREPARED TO DIE!!!!"
> 
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/51-l/docs/rogers-commission/Appendix-F.txt



What I don't understand is
how can people want to go
to Mars after seeing the rocket
blow up before it even gets off the ground? 

If American Airlines planes would blow up all the time, would you book a
flight on AA????



I don't get it?


i must be missing something...

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#394594

FromSteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net>
Date2016-10-02 09:02 -0400
Message-ID<mq02vblom4hti99qkblhv09rkcearjqlqg@4ax.com>
In reply to#394446
Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or
even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too
impractical. You need something as big as the statue of liberty just
to get a few pounds to and back from the Moon. If something much
better is discovered or developed, then maybe. Get real guys !

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#394603

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-02 11:26 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.325af1245349933c98a5d2@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#394594
In article <mq02vblom4hti99qkblhv09rkcearjqlqg@4ax.com>, 
casagiannoni@optonline.net says...
> 
> Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or
> even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too
> impractical. You need something as big as the statue of liberty just
> to get a few pounds to and back from the Moon. If something much
> better is discovered or developed, then maybe. Get real guys !

So you need something as big as that statue of liberty, so what?  As 
ocean liners go that would be a very tiny one.

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#394609

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-10-02 16:56 +0000
Message-ID<arq7cd-pa1.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#394603
In sci.physics J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <mq02vblom4hti99qkblhv09rkcearjqlqg@4ax.com>, 
> casagiannoni@optonline.net says...
>> 
>> Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or
>> even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too
>> impractical. You need something as big as the statue of liberty just
>> to get a few pounds to and back from the Moon. If something much
>> better is discovered or developed, then maybe. Get real guys !
> 
> So you need something as big as that statue of liberty, so what?  As 
> ocean liners go that would be a very tiny one.

You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
you build the infrastructure.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#394653

FromSteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net>
Date2016-10-02 19:53 -0400
Message-ID<pb73vbhhqpqjvevbme7jc6d2kg2b89s3d2@4ax.com>
In reply to#394609
>
>You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
>needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
>you build the infrastructure.
>
Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.

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#394745

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-03 13:41 -0700
Message-ID<57F2C279.5B6F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394653
SteveGG wrote:
> 
> >
> >You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
> >needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
> >you build the infrastructure.
> >
> Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.


The problem is...
NASA doesn't know how to make
flying space vehicles to Mars.

You're suppose to fly horizontal, not
vertical.


and land horizontal, not vertical.


As you see in this video..
you land horizontal and take off horzontal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igMNkaxdCc4



you might have to swing back and forth like
an ant to get where you're going...


Why don't I just blow up the planet and
start from the beggining? You earthlings are hopeless...

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#394921

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2016-10-05 17:37 +0200
Message-ID<2001791.ElGaqSPkdT@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#394653
SteveGG wrote:

>> You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
>> needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
>> you build the infrastructure.
>
> Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.

Like I said, you are wrong, and repeating nonsense does not make it true.

F'up2 sci.space.tech

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#394937

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-05 11:20 -0700
Message-ID<57F54451.6550@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394921
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> SteveGG wrote:
> 
> >> You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap
> >> needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while
> >> you build the infrastructure.
> >
> > Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.
> 
> Like I said, you are wrong, and repeating nonsense does not make it true.
> 
> F'up2 sci.space.tech
> 
> --
> PointedEars
> 
> Twitter: @PointedEars2
> Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.


I don't allow Followup-To: in my threads.


and remove those stupid pointed ears ...


this is not a trekkie convention.


Trekkies, stupid enough to name that talking computer on star trek ship...Computer???

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#394920

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2016-10-05 17:36 +0200
Message-ID<3929612.LvFx2qVVIh@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#394594
SteveGG wrote:

> Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or
> even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too
> impractical.

/Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses./

(It is better to stay silent and be thought an idiot than to speak and 
remove all doubt of it.)

And stop the mindless crossposting without Followup-To.  F'up2 
sci.space.tech.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#395321

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-09 21:50 -0700
Message-ID<57FB1DFA.4AED@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394446
Serigo wrote:
> 
> On 10/9/2016 12:43 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
> >>  The USA is broke.
> >>
> >> Lynn
> >>
> 
> > Easy fix.   Recind the bush tax cuts.   Tax capital
> > gains at regular income tax rates.   Limit annual capital
> > loss offsets to 20% of annual income.  Eliminated carried interest.
> >
> > Basically, back to where we were when the country _wasn't_
> > broke.
> >
> > Add new law stating that any offshore military excursion must be paid by raising
> > taxes immediately, no borrowing allowed.
> >
> 
> So you would put more of a persons hard earned money into the dirty
> hands of politicians !
> 
> and thanks to Obama and Hillary, US Dbet is $14,300,000,000,000
> 
> now you want to go spend more on a stupid pile of rocks and sand in a
> vacuum, Mars.


Most of the money goes into the yacht, not the rocks and sand...
and cocaine for their children


Here is the top con artist in the 'scientific community'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0gbYHDvzUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk0NXhEQXRI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexFwQGhsYU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0rDFbrhjtI



I  challenge anyone to find one statement of truth coming from Craig...it's all con words if you
listen carfully...

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#395599

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-13 18:49 -0700
Message-ID<580039B2.B9D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#394446
Serigo wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/2016 12:31 PM, noTthaTguY wrote:
> > I can water the lawn ... if it's HOH
> >
> 
> if you water on Mars, does it make mud, or dry really fast ?


It cannot make mud because there is no earth on mars. You need organice
material to make earth/dirt.

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#395610

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-13 22:40 -0700
Message-ID<58006FB8.5394@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#395599
Serigo wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/2016 8:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Serigo wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/13/2016 12:31 PM, noTthaTguY wrote:
> >>> I can water the lawn ... if it's HOH
> >>>
> >>
> >> if you water on Mars, does it make mud, or dry really fast ?
> >
> >
> > It cannot make mud because there is no earth on mars. You need organice
> > material to make earth/dirt.
> >
> 
> Mars stuff + water = gook   (not mud) ?
> not gook either, they dont really mix,
> 
> a good test, starmaker
> 
> This Martian soil that we've analyzed on Mars just this past week
> appears mineralogically similar to some weathered basaltic materials
> that we see on Earth," David Bish, a CheMin co-investigator with Indiana
> University, told reporters. He cited as an example the "weathered soils
> on the flanks of Mauna Kea in Hawaii."
> 
>   "Much of Mars is covered with dust, and we had an incomplete
> understanding of its mineralogy," Bish said in a statement. "We now know
> it is mineralogically similar to basaltic material, with significant
> amounts of feldspar, pyroxene and olivine, which was not unexpected.
> Roughly half the soil is non-crystalline material, such as volcanic
> glass or products from weathering of the glass."


It is not "soil":

https://www.google.com/#q=define+soil

soil1
soil/
noun
noun: soil; plural noun: soils

    the upper layer of earth in which plants grow, a black or dark brown material typically consisting of a mixture of organic remains, clay, and rock particles.


Don't let NASA fool you...they are crooks, all of them.

Everyday.


There is no soil on Mars. There is no earth on Mars. There is no - 'organic' remains - on Mars.


No   - 'organic' remains - , no Life, Period.


There is no organic content anywhere else in the universe. Why should there be?

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#395653

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-10-14 10:49 -0700
Message-ID<58011A9C.2E11@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#395610
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Serigo wrote:
> >
> > On 10/13/2016 8:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Serigo wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 10/13/2016 12:31 PM, noTthaTguY wrote:
> > >>> I can water the lawn ... if it's HOH
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> if you water on Mars, does it make mud, or dry really fast ?
> > >
> > >
> > > It cannot make mud because there is no earth on mars. You need organice
> > > material to make earth/dirt.
> > >
> >
> > Mars stuff + water = gook   (not mud) ?
> > not gook either, they dont really mix,
> >
> > a good test, starmaker
> >
> > This Martian soil that we've analyzed on Mars just this past week
> > appears mineralogically similar to some weathered basaltic materials
> > that we see on Earth," David Bish, a CheMin co-investigator with Indiana
> > University, told reporters. He cited as an example the "weathered soils
> > on the flanks of Mauna Kea in Hawaii."
> >
> >   "Much of Mars is covered with dust, and we had an incomplete
> > understanding of its mineralogy," Bish said in a statement. "We now know
> > it is mineralogically similar to basaltic material, with significant
> > amounts of feldspar, pyroxene and olivine, which was not unexpected.
> > Roughly half the soil is non-crystalline material, such as volcanic
> > glass or products from weathering of the glass."
> 
> It is not "soil":
> 
> https://www.google.com/#q=define+soil
> 
> soil1
> soil/
> noun
> noun: soil; plural noun: soils
> 
>     the upper layer of earth in which plants grow, a black or dark brown material typically consisting of a mixture of organic remains, clay, and rock particles.
> 
> Don't let NASA fool you...they are crooks, all of them.
> 
> Everyday.
> 
> There is no soil on Mars. There is no earth on Mars. There is no - 'organic' remains - on Mars.
> 
> No   - 'organic' remains - , no Life, Period.
> 
> There is no organic content anywhere else in the universe. Why should there be?




The problem here is, NASA doesn't know the language the aliens from Mars speak...

NASA doesn't know the words for the ...stuff on Mars. You can not use English words to describe Martian words.


They speak a different language.


They don't have words like water, trees, boat and planes...

There is no Martian soil, so you cannot say Martian soil.


NASA needs to make up...new words.


They could try reading science fiction books about Mars to see if they can pick up new words...



I'm sure there are a lot of science fiction books about Mars out there...
probably you can find a whole entire Martian language out there in those SF books.


Anybody speak Martian?

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