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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700 |
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1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 19:24 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 11:38 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 11:53 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 12:00 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-10-02 09:02 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:26 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-02 16:56 +0000
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2016-10-02 19:53 -0400
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-03 13:41 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-05 17:37 +0200
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-05 11:20 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-10-05 17:36 +0200
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-09 21:50 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-13 18:49 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-13 22:40 -0700
Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-14 10:49 -0700
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 15:42 -0700 |
| Subject | 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says |
| Message-ID | <57EEEA3E.5698@ix.netcom.com> |
1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars???
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 19:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57EF1E4C.2CA6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #394446 |
Serigo wrote: > > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html > > > > > > > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars??? > > > > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars. you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the odds on that???? then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds on that???? Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 11:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F0029A.6DCE@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #394455 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Serigo wrote: > > > > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says > > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars??? > > > > > > > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars. > > you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the > odds on that???? > > then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds > on that???? > > Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct? I mean, if you ask Elon Musk "Would you go on the first flight to Mars?" He would probably say.. "ARE YOU FUCKIN NUTS! DO YOU THINK I'M FUCKING STUPID!!!" "I'M NOT FUCKIN PREPARED TO DIE!!!!" . . . . . . . . . . . . http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/51-l/docs/rogers-commission/Appendix-F.txt
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 11:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F00640.6617@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #394502 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Serigo wrote: > > > > > > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says > > > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars??? > > > > > > > > > > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars. > > > > you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the > > odds on that???? > > > > then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds > > on that???? > > > > Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint > > So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct? and no fat people and bring your own snacks.. and since by now most of yous believe every planet has an underground/subsurface/underneath/underthere/lookunder an underground ocean.. that means just dig a hole and live underground..there is plenty of oxygen there from the ocean's plants. ...thata means any aliens from outer space would have to be stupid too. First thing they'll ask, "How do you taste?" I'll tell them, "Go to China, you'll like Chineese food."
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 12:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F007EB.7031@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #394502 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Serigo wrote: > > > > > > On 9/30/2016 5:42 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says > > > > http://www.space.com/34259-elon-musk-first-mars-colonists-prepared-die.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is he talking about dying before liftoff to Mars??? > > > > > > > > > > no, dying as they get *cooked by radiation* on the surface of Mars. > > > > you gotta get off the ground first without it blowing up, what are the > > odds on that???? > > > > then you have to hope it doesn't blow up in the sky...what are the odds > > on that???? > > > > Does NASA sell flight insurance??? iwannareadthefineprint > > So, conclusion is..the only people going to Mars are people who are ...stupid enough, is that correct? > > I mean, if you ask Elon Musk "Would you go on the first flight to Mars?" He would probably say.. > > "ARE YOU FUCKIN NUTS! DO YOU THINK I'M FUCKING STUPID!!!" > > "I'M NOT FUCKIN PREPARED TO DIE!!!!" > > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/51-l/docs/rogers-commission/Appendix-F.txt What I don't understand is how can people want to go to Mars after seeing the rocket blow up before it even gets off the ground? If American Airlines planes would blow up all the time, would you book a flight on AA???? I don't get it? i must be missing something...
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| From | SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 09:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mq02vblom4hti99qkblhv09rkcearjqlqg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #394446 |
Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too impractical. You need something as big as the statue of liberty just to get a few pounds to and back from the Moon. If something much better is discovered or developed, then maybe. Get real guys !
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 11:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.325af1245349933c98a5d2@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #394594 |
In article <mq02vblom4hti99qkblhv09rkcearjqlqg@4ax.com>, casagiannoni@optonline.net says... > > Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or > even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too > impractical. You need something as big as the statue of liberty just > to get a few pounds to and back from the Moon. If something much > better is discovered or developed, then maybe. Get real guys ! So you need something as big as that statue of liberty, so what? As ocean liners go that would be a very tiny one.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 16:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <arq7cd-pa1.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #394603 |
In sci.physics J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <mq02vblom4hti99qkblhv09rkcearjqlqg@4ax.com>, > casagiannoni@optonline.net says... >> >> Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or >> even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too >> impractical. You need something as big as the statue of liberty just >> to get a few pounds to and back from the Moon. If something much >> better is discovered or developed, then maybe. Get real guys ! > > So you need something as big as that statue of liberty, so what? As > ocean liners go that would be a very tiny one. You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while you build the infrastructure. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 19:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pb73vbhhqpqjvevbme7jc6d2kg2b89s3d2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #394609 |
> >You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap >needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while >you build the infrastructure. > Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 13:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F2C279.5B6F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #394653 |
SteveGG wrote: > > > > >You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap > >needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while > >you build the infrastructure. > > > Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion. The problem is... NASA doesn't know how to make flying space vehicles to Mars. You're suppose to fly horizontal, not vertical. and land horizontal, not vertical. As you see in this video.. you land horizontal and take off horzontal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igMNkaxdCc4 you might have to swing back and forth like an ant to get where you're going... Why don't I just blow up the planet and start from the beggining? You earthlings are hopeless...
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-10-05 17:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <2001791.ElGaqSPkdT@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #394653 |
SteveGG wrote: >> You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap >> needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while >> you build the infrastructure. > > Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion. Like I said, you are wrong, and repeating nonsense does not make it true. F'up2 sci.space.tech -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-05 11:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57F54451.6550@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #394921 |
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > SteveGG wrote: > > >> You need hundreds, if not thousands, of them ferrying in all the crap > >> needed to build an infrastructure and the necessities of life while > >> you build the infrastructure. > > > > Like I said, not going to happen with rocket propulsion. > > Like I said, you are wrong, and repeating nonsense does not make it true. > > F'up2 sci.space.tech > > -- > PointedEars > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. I don't allow Followup-To: in my threads. and remove those stupid pointed ears ... this is not a trekkie convention. Trekkies, stupid enough to name that talking computer on star trek ship...Computer???
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-10-05 17:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <3929612.LvFx2qVVIh@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #394594 |
SteveGG wrote: > Never going to be any to-'n-fro or colonization of Mars in our, or > even our grandchildren's lifetime. Rocket based propolsion is way too > impractical. /Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses./ (It is better to stay silent and be thought an idiot than to speak and remove all doubt of it.) And stop the mindless crossposting without Followup-To. F'up2 sci.space.tech. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-09 21:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57FB1DFA.4AED@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #394446 |
Serigo wrote: > > On 10/9/2016 12:43 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: > > Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes: > >> The USA is broke. > >> > >> Lynn > >> > > > Easy fix. Recind the bush tax cuts. Tax capital > > gains at regular income tax rates. Limit annual capital > > loss offsets to 20% of annual income. Eliminated carried interest. > > > > Basically, back to where we were when the country _wasn't_ > > broke. > > > > Add new law stating that any offshore military excursion must be paid by raising > > taxes immediately, no borrowing allowed. > > > > So you would put more of a persons hard earned money into the dirty > hands of politicians ! > > and thanks to Obama and Hillary, US Dbet is $14,300,000,000,000 > > now you want to go spend more on a stupid pile of rocks and sand in a > vacuum, Mars. Most of the money goes into the yacht, not the rocks and sand... and cocaine for their children Here is the top con artist in the 'scientific community' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0gbYHDvzUM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk0NXhEQXRI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexFwQGhsYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0rDFbrhjtI I challenge anyone to find one statement of truth coming from Craig...it's all con words if you listen carfully...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 18:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <580039B2.B9D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #394446 |
Serigo wrote: > > On 10/13/2016 12:31 PM, noTthaTguY wrote: > > I can water the lawn ... if it's HOH > > > > if you water on Mars, does it make mud, or dry really fast ? It cannot make mud because there is no earth on mars. You need organice material to make earth/dirt.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 22:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <58006FB8.5394@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #395599 |
Serigo wrote:
>
> On 10/13/2016 8:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Serigo wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/13/2016 12:31 PM, noTthaTguY wrote:
> >>> I can water the lawn ... if it's HOH
> >>>
> >>
> >> if you water on Mars, does it make mud, or dry really fast ?
> >
> >
> > It cannot make mud because there is no earth on mars. You need organice
> > material to make earth/dirt.
> >
>
> Mars stuff + water = gook (not mud) ?
> not gook either, they dont really mix,
>
> a good test, starmaker
>
> This Martian soil that we've analyzed on Mars just this past week
> appears mineralogically similar to some weathered basaltic materials
> that we see on Earth," David Bish, a CheMin co-investigator with Indiana
> University, told reporters. He cited as an example the "weathered soils
> on the flanks of Mauna Kea in Hawaii."
>
> "Much of Mars is covered with dust, and we had an incomplete
> understanding of its mineralogy," Bish said in a statement. "We now know
> it is mineralogically similar to basaltic material, with significant
> amounts of feldspar, pyroxene and olivine, which was not unexpected.
> Roughly half the soil is non-crystalline material, such as volcanic
> glass or products from weathering of the glass."
It is not "soil":
https://www.google.com/#q=define+soil
soil1
soil/
noun
noun: soil; plural noun: soils
the upper layer of earth in which plants grow, a black or dark brown material typically consisting of a mixture of organic remains, clay, and rock particles.
Don't let NASA fool you...they are crooks, all of them.
Everyday.
There is no soil on Mars. There is no earth on Mars. There is no - 'organic' remains - on Mars.
No - 'organic' remains - , no Life, Period.
There is no organic content anywhere else in the universe. Why should there be?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 10:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <58011A9C.2E11@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #395610 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Serigo wrote: > > > > On 10/13/2016 8:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Serigo wrote: > > >> > > >> On 10/13/2016 12:31 PM, noTthaTguY wrote: > > >>> I can water the lawn ... if it's HOH > > >>> > > >> > > >> if you water on Mars, does it make mud, or dry really fast ? > > > > > > > > > It cannot make mud because there is no earth on mars. You need organice > > > material to make earth/dirt. > > > > > > > Mars stuff + water = gook (not mud) ? > > not gook either, they dont really mix, > > > > a good test, starmaker > > > > This Martian soil that we've analyzed on Mars just this past week > > appears mineralogically similar to some weathered basaltic materials > > that we see on Earth," David Bish, a CheMin co-investigator with Indiana > > University, told reporters. He cited as an example the "weathered soils > > on the flanks of Mauna Kea in Hawaii." > > > > "Much of Mars is covered with dust, and we had an incomplete > > understanding of its mineralogy," Bish said in a statement. "We now know > > it is mineralogically similar to basaltic material, with significant > > amounts of feldspar, pyroxene and olivine, which was not unexpected. > > Roughly half the soil is non-crystalline material, such as volcanic > > glass or products from weathering of the glass." > > It is not "soil": > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+soil > > soil1 > soil/ > noun > noun: soil; plural noun: soils > > the upper layer of earth in which plants grow, a black or dark brown material typically consisting of a mixture of organic remains, clay, and rock particles. > > Don't let NASA fool you...they are crooks, all of them. > > Everyday. > > There is no soil on Mars. There is no earth on Mars. There is no - 'organic' remains - on Mars. > > No - 'organic' remains - , no Life, Period. > > There is no organic content anywhere else in the universe. Why should there be? The problem here is, NASA doesn't know the language the aliens from Mars speak... NASA doesn't know the words for the ...stuff on Mars. You can not use English words to describe Martian words. They speak a different language. They don't have words like water, trees, boat and planes... There is no Martian soil, so you cannot say Martian soil. NASA needs to make up...new words. They could try reading science fiction books about Mars to see if they can pick up new words... I'm sure there are a lot of science fiction books about Mars out there... probably you can find a whole entire Martian language out there in those SF books. Anybody speak Martian?
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