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| Started by | Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-09-07 09:40 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-09-08 14:24 -0700 |
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The Mass equals Area theorem Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 09:40 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-07 10:07 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 18:53 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 20:20 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:56 -0700
The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:01 -0700
The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:46 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 10:14 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:09 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-08 12:09 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:46 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 14:24 -0700
| From | Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-07 09:40 -0700 |
| Subject | The Mass equals Area theorem |
| Message-ID | <3dbf0546-c53f-4105-a3dc-7a6a56647a64@googlegroups.com> |
Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration. The mass in the nucleus is influenced by the relativistic effects of gravity and by a shadowing effect. Heavy elements like Uranium have increased mass area due to the turbulence of the 4D continuum fluid that is caused by gravity. Medium sized elements like Iron have little turbulence. Iron has the shadowing effect where the area of one proton makes a shadow over the next proton so the 4D continuum fluid does not encounter the next proton on all areas. Light elements do not have much shadowing or much gravity, so the mass per baryon is higher than for Iron. The 4D continuum fluid has a viscosity. That single viscosity is responsible for three things: 1) inertial mass of matter 2) a limit to galaxy size 3) a limit to the visible size of the universe
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-07 10:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57D0494A.5F51@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #391708 |
Alan Folmsbee wrote: > > Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration. The mass in the nucleus is influenced by the relativistic effects of gravity and by a shadowing effect. > > Heavy elements like Uranium have increased mass area due to the turbulence of the 4D continuum fluid that is caused by gravity. Medium sized elements like Iron have little turbulence. Iron has the shadowing effect where the area of one proton makes a shadow over the next proton so the 4D continuum fluid does not encounter the next proton on all areas. Light elements do not have much shadowing or much gravity, so the mass per baryon is higher than for Iron. > > The 4D continuum fluid has a viscosity. That single viscosity is responsible for three things: > > 1) inertial mass of matter > > 2) a limit to galaxy size > > 3) a limit to the visible size of the universe There is no 4D, are you...nuts???? This is not science, this is ...garbage. Why are you throwing garbage here? Isn't there a garbage can in your house??
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| From | "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 18:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <71029db8-c9e4-40ba-b02d-8fe93916e6b2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391710 |
There isn't 4-d in the 3 space dimensions, but in terms of all the vectors of all the different kinetic systems or frames, they combine over their branches to be more dimensions, only in that space of kinetic interactions, not the concrete 3 space dimensions of Minkowski space-time. Then in a sense, and rather directly, the gauge theory is about the special unitary group in infinitely many dimensions, as about an SU^N gauge theory. This is also then about the sum-of- histories' of any number of kinetic systems each pair-wise, then as about the collisions of those and whether they combine, disperse, or variegate.
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 20:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d3b6ee81-c7f3-4720-bf58-3df2c8ddd855@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391829 |
(376730.313461 * 13703599.9) / (2 * (10^8)) = 25812.8074294 ((376730.313461 * 13703599.9)^0.25) / 4 = 376.839412416 ((376730.313461 * 13703599.9)^0.25) / 11 = 137.032513606 (376730.313461 * 13703599.9)^0.25 = 1507.35764967
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-07 10:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f7b47253-0b88-4183-85ed-ef8e6ab26738@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391708 |
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-5, Alan Folmsbee wrote: > Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration. The mass in the nucleus is influenced by the relativistic effects of gravity and by a shadowing effect. > > Heavy elements like Uranium have increased mass area due to the turbulence of the 4D continuum fluid that is caused by gravity. Medium sized elements like Iron have little turbulence. Iron has the shadowing effect where the area of one proton makes a shadow over the next proton so the 4D continuum fluid does not encounter the next proton on all areas. Light elements do not have much shadowing or much gravity, so the mass per baryon is higher than for Iron. > > The 4D continuum fluid has a viscosity. That single viscosity is responsible for three things: > > 1) inertial mass of matter > > 2) a limit to galaxy size > > 3) a limit to the visible size of the universe MASS http://i65.tinypic.com/257py0p.jpg Space time http://i68.tinypic.com/2lcxw7t.jpg Gravity http://i68.tinypic.com/10sb4ab.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/102v0gh.jpg
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 09:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4a9c28b0-210b-42cb-b5f5-7dbf949bc3cd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391708 |
Alan Folmsbee wrote: Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration I suggested this same concept to David A Smith about 11 years ago
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 09:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <25b2a297-b4af-465a-87fa-e243a58e5d97@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391775 |
Alan Folmsbee wrote: Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration I suggested this same concept to David A Smith about 11 years ago Since protons & neutrons are 99% binding energy, their binding energy is what is "relative" to speed relative to the continuum
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| From | Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 10:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e22861f6-d939-4610-b3a3-58a81f9c2ee3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391784 |
On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 6:46:08 AM UTC-10, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote: > Alan Folmsbee wrote: > > Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration > > I suggested this same concept to David A Smith about 11 years ago > > Since protons & neutrons are 99% binding energy, their binding energy is what is "relative" to speed relative to the continuum Yes, that is what I call "self relativity". The protons and neutrons are causing gravity, so the space time continuum flows into the nucleus of a heavy element. In all other situations, two particles are needed for a relative velocity. But for a proton, the speed of space S is relative to the proton without a second particle. S equals (momentum / area) The self relativity is what makes mass increase for heavy elements. That is the "mass defect".
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 11:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2df31ce2-c10c-4693-9cd6-e7333a51d2e2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391787 |
http://i68.tinypic.com/2jdkl6v.jpg (376.73 * 4) / (11 * 137) = 0.99994691439 4+11=15 1506.92125 /15 137.03600 * 11 = 1507.396 15 / (376.730313461 * 4) = 0.00995407023 137*11=1507 (376.730313461 * 44 * 137.03600)^0.5 = 1507.15860823 cos(137.03600 radians) * e = 0.99997993234 137.03600 / pi = 43.6199135631
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 12:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57D1B787.2BC9@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #391795 |
David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote: > > http://i68.tinypic.com/2jdkl6v.jpg > > (376.73 * 4) / (11 * 137) = 0.99994691439 > > 4+11=15 > 1506.92125 /15 > > 137.03600 * 11 = 1507.396 > > 15 / (376.730313461 * 4) = 0.00995407023 > > 137*11=1507 > > (376.730313461 * 44 * 137.03600)^0.5 = 1507.15860823 > > cos(137.03600 radians) * e = 0.99997993234 > > 137.03600 / pi = 43.6199135631 7 x 13= 28
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 13:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e82e5d6b-3ba5-4ef2-9d65-4760b516baf1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391807 |
The Starmaker Sharted: 7 x 13= 28 Fuck you retarded Shit Eater
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <058b6fb1-465a-472b-ac64-0b66702ce96c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391807 |
The Starmaker Sharted: 7 x 13= 28 Fuck you retarded Shit Eater
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b5e755fd-7bc3-4031-9b3a-7d2899eaea4f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391807 |
The Starmaker Sharted: 7 x 13= 28 Fuck you retarded Shit Eater
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <268223bc-a595-47c2-982c-f29a815c7c86@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391807 |
The Starmaker Sharted: 7 x 13= 28 Fuck you retarded Shit Eater
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e2e7490b-77ba-441f-beca-86a478746590@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391807 |
The Starmaker Sharted: 7 x 13= 28 Fuck you retarded Shit Eater
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| From | "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-08 14:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8bc2c544-72b4-4ce2-8353-4bb9c8eaae4c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #391815 |
(15^2) - (7 * 4 * pi) = 137.035405699 http://oi68.tinypic.com/2jdkl6v.jpg I dunno, just an odd coincidence. Speed of a wave in a Aether like medium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnbJEg9r1o8 Guess it just a Brain SHART
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