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The Mass equals Area theorem

Started byAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
First post2016-09-07 09:40 -0700
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  The Mass equals Area theorem Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 09:40 -0700
    Re: The Mass equals Area theorem The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-07 10:07 -0700
      Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 18:53 -0700
        Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 20:20 -0700
    Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:56 -0700
    The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:01 -0700
      The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:46 -0700
        Re: The Mass equals Area theorem Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 10:14 -0700
          Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:09 -0700
            Re: The Mass equals Area theorem The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-08 12:09 -0700
              Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:46 -0700
              Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
              Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
              Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
              Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
                Re: The Mass equals Area theorem "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-08 14:24 -0700

#391708 — The Mass equals Area theorem

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-07 09:40 -0700
SubjectThe Mass equals Area theorem
Message-ID<3dbf0546-c53f-4105-a3dc-7a6a56647a64@googlegroups.com>
Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration. The mass in the nucleus is influenced by the relativistic effects of gravity and by a shadowing effect.

Heavy elements like Uranium have increased mass area due to the turbulence of the 4D continuum fluid that is caused by gravity. Medium sized elements like Iron have little turbulence. Iron has the shadowing effect where the area of one proton makes a shadow over the next proton so the 4D continuum fluid does not encounter the next proton on all areas. Light elements do not have much shadowing or much gravity, so the mass per baryon is higher than for Iron.

The 4D continuum fluid has a viscosity. That single viscosity is responsible for three things:

1) inertial mass of matter

2) a limit to galaxy size

3) a limit to the visible size of the universe

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#391710

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-07 10:07 -0700
Message-ID<57D0494A.5F51@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#391708
Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> 
> Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration. The mass in the nucleus is influenced by the relativistic effects of gravity and by a shadowing effect.
> 
> Heavy elements like Uranium have increased mass area due to the turbulence of the 4D continuum fluid that is caused by gravity. Medium sized elements like Iron have little turbulence. Iron has the shadowing effect where the area of one proton makes a shadow over the next proton so the 4D continuum fluid does not encounter the next proton on all areas. Light elements do not have much shadowing or much gravity, so the mass per baryon is higher than for Iron.
> 
> The 4D continuum fluid has a viscosity. That single viscosity is responsible for three things:
> 
> 1) inertial mass of matter
> 
> 2) a limit to galaxy size
> 
> 3) a limit to the visible size of the universe



There is no 4D, are you...nuts????



This is not science, this is ...garbage.


Why are you throwing garbage here? Isn't there a garbage can in your
house??

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#391829

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 18:53 -0700
Message-ID<71029db8-c9e4-40ba-b02d-8fe93916e6b2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391710
There isn't 4-d in the 3 space 
dimensions, but in terms of all the 
vectors of all the different kinetic 
systems or frames, they combine 
over their branches to be more 
dimensions, only in that space of 
kinetic interactions, not the concrete
3 space dimensions of Minkowski 
space-time.

Then in a sense, and rather directly, 
the gauge theory is about the 
special unitary group in infinitely 
many dimensions, as about an SU^N 
gauge theory.

This is also then about the sum-of-
histories' of any number of kinetic 
systems each pair-wise, then as 
about the collisions of those and 
whether they combine, disperse, or 
variegate.

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#391835

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 20:20 -0700
Message-ID<d3b6ee81-c7f3-4720-bf58-3df2c8ddd855@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391829
(376730.313461 * 13703599.9) / (2 * (10^8)) =
25812.8074294

((376730.313461 * 13703599.9)^0.25) / 4 = 376.839412416

((376730.313461 * 13703599.9)^0.25) / 11 = 137.032513606

(376730.313461 * 13703599.9)^0.25 = 1507.35764967

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#391712

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-07 10:56 -0700
Message-ID<f7b47253-0b88-4183-85ed-ef8e6ab26738@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391708
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-5, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration. The mass in the nucleus is influenced by the relativistic effects of gravity and by a shadowing effect.
> 
> Heavy elements like Uranium have increased mass area due to the turbulence of the 4D continuum fluid that is caused by gravity. Medium sized elements like Iron have little turbulence. Iron has the shadowing effect where the area of one proton makes a shadow over the next proton so the 4D continuum fluid does not encounter the next proton on all areas. Light elements do not have much shadowing or much gravity, so the mass per baryon is higher than for Iron.
> 
> The 4D continuum fluid has a viscosity. That single viscosity is responsible for three things:
> 
> 1) inertial mass of matter
> 
> 2) a limit to galaxy size
> 
> 3) a limit to the visible size of the universe

MASS http://i65.tinypic.com/257py0p.jpg

Space time http://i68.tinypic.com/2lcxw7t.jpg

Gravity http://i68.tinypic.com/10sb4ab.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/102v0gh.jpg

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#391775

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 09:01 -0700
Message-ID<4a9c28b0-210b-42cb-b5f5-7dbf949bc3cd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391708
Alan Folmsbee wrote:

Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration

I suggested this same concept to David A Smith about 11 years ago 

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#391784

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 09:46 -0700
Message-ID<25b2a297-b4af-465a-87fa-e243a58e5d97@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391775
Alan Folmsbee wrote: 

Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration 

I suggested this same concept to David A Smith about 11 years ago 

Since protons & neutrons are 99% binding energy, their binding energy is what is "relative" to speed relative to the continuum 

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#391787

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 10:14 -0700
Message-ID<e22861f6-d939-4610-b3a3-58a81f9c2ee3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391784
On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 6:46:08 AM UTC-10, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> Alan Folmsbee wrote: 
> 
> Mass is an area around protons, neutrons, and electrons. During acceleration the mass area encounters the 4D continuum fluid, which is reactive. The area is like a parachute, opposing acceleration 
> 
> I suggested this same concept to David A Smith about 11 years ago 
> 
> Since protons & neutrons are 99% binding energy, their binding energy is what is "relative" to speed relative to the continuum

Yes, that is what I call "self relativity". The protons and neutrons are causing gravity, so the space time continuum flows into the nucleus of a heavy element. In all other situations, two particles are needed for a relative velocity. But for a proton, the speed of space S is relative to the proton without a second particle.

S equals (momentum / area)

The self relativity is what makes mass increase for heavy elements. That is the "mass defect".

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#391795

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 11:09 -0700
Message-ID<2df31ce2-c10c-4693-9cd6-e7333a51d2e2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391787
http://i68.tinypic.com/2jdkl6v.jpg

(376.73 * 4) / (11 * 137) = 0.99994691439

4+11=15
1506.92125 /15

137.03600 * 11 = 1507.396

15 / (376.730313461 * 4) = 0.00995407023

137*11=1507

(376.730313461 * 44 * 137.03600)^0.5 = 1507.15860823

cos(137.03600 radians) * e = 0.99997993234

137.03600 / pi = 43.6199135631

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#391807

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-08 12:09 -0700
Message-ID<57D1B787.2BC9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#391795
David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> 
> http://i68.tinypic.com/2jdkl6v.jpg
> 
> (376.73 * 4) / (11 * 137) = 0.99994691439
> 
> 4+11=15
> 1506.92125 /15
> 
> 137.03600 * 11 = 1507.396
> 
> 15 / (376.730313461 * 4) = 0.00995407023
> 
> 137*11=1507
> 
> (376.730313461 * 44 * 137.03600)^0.5 = 1507.15860823
> 
> cos(137.03600 radians) * e = 0.99997993234
> 
> 137.03600 / pi = 43.6199135631



7 x 13= 28

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#391811

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 13:46 -0700
Message-ID<e82e5d6b-3ba5-4ef2-9d65-4760b516baf1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391807
The Starmaker Sharted:

7 x 13= 28 

Fuck you retarded Shit Eater

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#391812

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
Message-ID<058b6fb1-465a-472b-ac64-0b66702ce96c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391807
The Starmaker Sharted:

7 x 13= 28 

Fuck you retarded Shit Eater

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#391813

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
Message-ID<b5e755fd-7bc3-4031-9b3a-7d2899eaea4f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391807
The Starmaker Sharted:

7 x 13= 28 

Fuck you retarded Shit Eater

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#391814

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
Message-ID<268223bc-a595-47c2-982c-f29a815c7c86@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391807
The Starmaker Sharted:

7 x 13= 28 

Fuck you retarded Shit Eater

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#391815

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 13:47 -0700
Message-ID<e2e7490b-77ba-441f-beca-86a478746590@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391807
The Starmaker Sharted:

7 x 13= 28 

Fuck you retarded Shit Eater

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#391819

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 14:24 -0700
Message-ID<8bc2c544-72b4-4ce2-8353-4bb9c8eaae4c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#391815
(15^2) - (7 * 4 * pi) = 137.035405699

http://oi68.tinypic.com/2jdkl6v.jpg

I dunno, just an odd coincidence. 

Speed of a wave in a Aether like medium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnbJEg9r1o8
Guess it just a Brain SHART 




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