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Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox

Started byPentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com>
First post2016-07-14 16:41 -0700
Last post2016-07-17 22:15 -0700
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  Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-14 16:41 -0700
    Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-14 19:23 -0700
      Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-14 23:32 -0700
        Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-15 06:06 -0700
      Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-14 23:56 -0700
    Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-15 05:03 -0700
      Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-15 06:20 -0700
        Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-15 06:37 -0700
          Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 06:45 -0700
            Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-15 19:08 +0200
              Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 16:24 -0700
                Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-16 08:49 +0200
                  Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 05:25 -0700
                    Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-16 16:23 +0200
                      Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 07:48 -0700
                        Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-16 21:14 +0200
                      Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 12:40 -0700
                        Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-16 23:13 +0200
                Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-16 09:32 +0200
                  Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-16 13:06 -0700
    Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-15 13:52 -0700
      Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-17 22:15 -0700

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#387843

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-07-15 13:52 -0700
Message-ID<57894D26.7D8E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#387792
Pentcho Valev wrote:
> 
> Special relativity predicts that either twin ages more slowly than the other, as judged from the other twin's system:
> 
> http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~djmorin/chap11.pdf
>  David Morin, Introduction to Classical Mechanics With Problems and Solutions, Chapter 11, p. 14: "Twin A stays on the earth, while twin B flies quickly to a distant star and back. [...] For the entire outward and return parts of the trip, B does observe A's clock running slow, but enough strangeness occurs during the turning-around period to make A end up older."
> 
> Special relativity's prediction that either twin ages more slowly than the other (as judged from the other twin's system) leads to absurdity unless "enough strangeness occurs during the turning-around period to make A end up older". However, during the turning-around period, the traveling twin is very far away from his stationary brother so the idea that "enough strangeness" is somehow produced during the turning-around period and this "enough strangeness" miraculously affects the distant statio
> 
> Pentcho Valev



There is no reason why
Twin B flies quickly to a distant star
and Twin A stays on earth...

Twin B can simply be atop a mountain..

and get the same results.

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#387945

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-07-17 22:15 -0700
Message-ID<578C65EB.4A39@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#387843
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> >
> > Special relativity predicts that either twin ages more slowly than the other, as judged from the other twin's system:
> >
> > http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~djmorin/chap11.pdf
> >  David Morin, Introduction to Classical Mechanics With Problems and Solutions, Chapter 11, p. 14: "Twin A stays on the earth, while twin B flies quickly to a distant star and back. [...] For the entire outward and return parts of the trip, B does observe A's clock running slow, but enough strangeness occurs during the turning-around period to make A end up older."
> >
> > Special relativity's prediction that either twin ages more slowly than the other (as judged from the other twin's system) leads to absurdity unless "enough strangeness occurs during the turning-around period to make A end up older". However, during the turning-around period, the traveling twin is very far away from his stationary brother so the idea that "enough strangeness" is somehow produced during the turning-around period and this "enough strangeness" miraculously affects the distant stat
> >
> > Pentcho Valev
> 
> There is no reason why
> Twin B flies quickly to a distant star
> and Twin A stays on earth...
> 
> Twin B can simply be atop a mountain..
> 
> and get the same results.



even if
 Twin B
was 12 inches
above
Twin A...
you get the same results.

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