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The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime

Started byPentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com>
First post2016-06-16 00:30 -0700
Last post2016-06-19 15:27 -0700
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  The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-16 00:30 -0700
    Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 00:35 -0700
      Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-18 10:09 -0700
        Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-20 03:16 -0700
    Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-06-16 10:24 +0200
      Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-06-16 11:24 +0200
        Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-06-18 00:17 +0200
    Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-16 05:31 -0700
      Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-16 09:35 -0700
      Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 10:46 -0700
      Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-16 12:30 -0700
        Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 12:55 -0700
          Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 13:06 -0700
            Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 14:20 -0700
              Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 14:31 -0700
              Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 15:09 -0700
                Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 15:22 -0700
                  Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 17:08 -0700
                  Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 17:18 -0700
                    Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 17:59 -0700
                      Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 18:07 -0700
                        Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-16 18:12 -0700
    Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-17 01:05 -0700
      Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-17 05:33 -0700
      Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-17 10:03 -0700
        Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 12:40 -0700
          Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-19 12:22 -0700
            Re: The Gravitational Wave Hoax and Einstein's Spacetime Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 15:27 -0700

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#386020

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-06-16 18:07 -0700
Message-ID<7aaeb4bb-407d-4357-b24b-d2fc4e6c1053@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#386019
(10 / (4.19169e-14 / 376.730313))^0.5 =
299792459.386


(4.19169e-14 joules) / (the speed of light^2) =
4.66388411 × 10^-31 kilograms

CMBR = 4.19169e-14 joules per cubic meter 

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#386021

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-06-16 18:12 -0700
Message-ID<f235a95c-c3b8-46f6-b721-6a3e6f168b30@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#386020
(10 / (4.19169e-14 / 376.730313))^0.5 = 
299792459.386 


(4.19169e-14 joules) / (the speed of light^2) = 
4.66388411 × 10^-31 kilograms 

CMBR = 4.19169e-14 joules per cubic meter

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.481.5289&rep=rep1&type=pdf


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#386032

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-17 01:05 -0700
Message-ID<5763AF33.2834@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#385967
Pentcho Valev wrote:
> 
> The gravitational wave hoax made the situation in today's science even more schizophrenic. On the one hand, scientists know that spacetime, the absurd consequence of Einstein's 1905 false constant-speed-of-light postulate, is fatally strangling physics. On the other, they are forced to hail the ripples in the nonexistent spacetime gloriously "discovered" by LIGO conspirators:
> 
> https://edge.org/response-detail/25477
>  What scientific idea is ready for retirement? Steve Giddings: "Spacetime. Physics has always been regarded as playing out on an underlying stage of space and time. Special relativity joined these into spacetime... (...) The apparent need to retire classical spacetime as a fundamental concept is profound..."
> 
> http://www.news.ucsb.edu/2016/016562/einstein-revolution
> 
> 
> The following quotations clearly show that Einstein's relativity should be immediately discarded:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U47kyV4TMnE
>  Nima Arkani-Hamed (06:11): "Almost all of us believe that space-time doesn't really exist, space-time is doomed and has to be replaced by some more primitive building blocks."
> 
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727721.200-rethinking-einstein-the-end-of-spacetime.html
>  "Rethinking Einstein: The end of space-time (...) The stumbling block lies with their conflicting views of space and time. As seen by quantum theory, space and time are a static backdrop against which particles move. In Einstein's theories, by contrast, not only are space and time inextricably linked, but the resulting space-time is moulded by the bodies within it. (...) Something has to give in this tussle between general relativity and quantum mechanics, and the smart money says that it's rel
> 
> https://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/research/conferences/convergence/roundtable-discussion-questions/what-are-lessons-quantum
>  Perimeter Institute: "Quantum mechanics has one thing, time, which is absolute. But general relativity tells us that space and time are both dynamical so there is a big contradiction there. So the question is, can quantum gravity be formulated in a context where quantum mechanics still has absolute time?"
> 
> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/08/05/science.aac6498
>  "In Einstein's general theory of relativity, time depends locally on gravity; in standard quantum theory, time is global - all clocks "tick" uniformly."
> 
> http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0610057.pdf
> 
> 
> http://www.hindawi.com/journals/isrn/2013/509316/
> 
> 
> Pentcho Valev



Did Einstein actually used the words "gravitional wave"????

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#386047

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-06-17 05:33 -0700
Message-ID<e90d142b-04fe-4245-9a5f-eea4305e3dd5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#386032
LIGO is measuring "Radiated Entropy" from mergers out into the universe at 1/r^2


Radiated Gravity waves, traveling at c, lowering the vacuum impedance, lowering the speed of light, increasing entropy, lengthening the span of a second. Lowering the (string tension) of the universe 

Entropy Equivalent to the ( orbital velocity loss to Jupiter ) if it is used as a gravitational sling shot to encrease the velocity of an exiting object like The Voyager probes. 

The SI unit of radiant exposure is the joule per square metre (J/m^2), while that of spectral exposure in frequency is the joule per square metre per hertz (J⋅m^−2⋅Hz^−1) and that of spectral exposure in wavelength is the joule per square metre per metre (J/m^3)—commonly the joule per square metre per nanometre (J⋅m^−2⋅nm^−1).

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#386075

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-17 10:03 -0700
Message-ID<57642D4B.48CA@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#386032
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> >
> > The gravitational wave hoax made the situation in today's science even more schizophrenic. On the one hand, scientists know that spacetime, the absurd consequence of Einstein's 1905 false constant-speed-of-light postulate, is fatally strangling physics. On the other, they are forced to hail the ripples in the nonexistent spacetime gloriously "discovered" by LIGO conspirators:
> >
> > https://edge.org/response-detail/25477
> >  What scientific idea is ready for retirement? Steve Giddings: "Spacetime. Physics has always been regarded as playing out on an underlying stage of space and time. Special relativity joined these into spacetime... (...) The apparent need to retire classical spacetime as a fundamental concept is profound..."
> >
> > http://www.news.ucsb.edu/2016/016562/einstein-revolution
> >
> >
> > The following quotations clearly show that Einstein's relativity should be immediately discarded:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U47kyV4TMnE
> >  Nima Arkani-Hamed (06:11): "Almost all of us believe that space-time doesn't really exist, space-time is doomed and has to be replaced by some more primitive building blocks."
> >
> > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727721.200-rethinking-einstein-the-end-of-spacetime.html
> >  "Rethinking Einstein: The end of space-time (...) The stumbling block lies with their conflicting views of space and time. As seen by quantum theory, space and time are a static backdrop against which particles move. In Einstein's theories, by contrast, not only are space and time inextricably linked, but the resulting space-time is moulded by the bodies within it. (...) Something has to give in this tussle between general relativity and quantum mechanics, and the smart money says that it's r
> >
> > https://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/research/conferences/convergence/roundtable-discussion-questions/what-are-lessons-quantum
> >  Perimeter Institute: "Quantum mechanics has one thing, time, which is absolute. But general relativity tells us that space and time are both dynamical so there is a big contradiction there. So the question is, can quantum gravity be formulated in a context where quantum mechanics still has absolute time?"
> >
> > http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/08/05/science.aac6498
> >  "In Einstein's general theory of relativity, time depends locally on gravity; in standard quantum theory, time is global - all clocks "tick" uniformly."
> >
> > http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0610057.pdf
> >
> >
> > http://www.hindawi.com/journals/isrn/2013/509316/
> >
> >
> > Pentcho Valev
> 
> Did Einstein actually used the words "gravitional wave"????

In other words, I don't know if Einstein used the words "gravitional
wave" in his 1915 relativity papers...

if he didn't, then "gravitional wave" is a fraud.

I know what a wave is...

you go to the beach
and you can see sufers
on surfboards riding waves...

you can see the waves on the beach.

Waves are big things.

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#386154

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-18 12:40 -0700
Message-ID<5765A3C8.57BD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#386075
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > >
> > > The gravitational wave hoax made the situation in today's science even more schizophrenic. On the one hand, scientists know that spacetime, the absurd consequence of Einstein's 1905 false constant-speed-of-light postulate, is fatally strangling physics. On the other, they are forced to hail the ripples in the nonexistent spacetime gloriously "discovered" by LIGO conspirators:
> > >
> > > https://edge.org/response-detail/25477
> > >  What scientific idea is ready for retirement? Steve Giddings: "Spacetime. Physics has always been regarded as playing out on an underlying stage of space and time. Special relativity joined these into spacetime... (...) The apparent need to retire classical spacetime as a fundamental concept is profound..."
> > >
> > > http://www.news.ucsb.edu/2016/016562/einstein-revolution
> > >
> > >
> > > The following quotations clearly show that Einstein's relativity should be immediately discarded:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U47kyV4TMnE
> > >  Nima Arkani-Hamed (06:11): "Almost all of us believe that space-time doesn't really exist, space-time is doomed and has to be replaced by some more primitive building blocks."
> > >
> > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727721.200-rethinking-einstein-the-end-of-spacetime.html
> > >  "Rethinking Einstein: The end of space-time (...) The stumbling block lies with their conflicting views of space and time. As seen by quantum theory, space and time are a static backdrop against which particles move. In Einstein's theories, by contrast, not only are space and time inextricably linked, but the resulting space-time is moulded by the bodies within it. (...) Something has to give in this tussle between general relativity and quantum mechanics, and the smart money says that it's
> > >
> > > https://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/research/conferences/convergence/roundtable-discussion-questions/what-are-lessons-quantum
> > >  Perimeter Institute: "Quantum mechanics has one thing, time, which is absolute. But general relativity tells us that space and time are both dynamical so there is a big contradiction there. So the question is, can quantum gravity be formulated in a context where quantum mechanics still has absolute time?"
> > >
> > > http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/08/05/science.aac6498
> > >  "In Einstein's general theory of relativity, time depends locally on gravity; in standard quantum theory, time is global - all clocks "tick" uniformly."
> > >
> > > http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0610057.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.hindawi.com/journals/isrn/2013/509316/
> > >
> > >
> > > Pentcho Valev
> >
> > Did Einstein actually used the words "gravitional wave"????
> 
> In other words, I don't know if Einstein used the words "gravitional
> wave" in his 1915 relativity papers...
> 
> if he didn't, then "gravitional wave" is a fraud.
> 
> I know what a wave is...
> 
> you go to the beach
> and you can see sufers
> on surfboards riding waves...
> 
> you can see the waves on the beach.
> 
> Waves are big things.


Next in the news...( i can predict the future news...)
they will be finding 'gravitational tasmania'!


How much you wanna bet the 'gravitational tasmania waves' will be coming any day soon?

They have to make it bigger, otherwise it will die in the news.


I bet a million dollars you will see 'gravitational tasmania' in the very near future!


i can predict the future....I'm a futurist.

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#386239

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-06-19 12:22 -0700
Message-ID<5766F108.2047@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#386154
okay, i'll try to ask a simplier question regarding Gravitational
Wave...


what kind of software did they
used to detect Gravitational Waves?

which version of windows did they used, XP, win10
or did they use a Mac?

or a different operation system? Linux??


Andriod?


what kind of software did they
used to detect Gravitational Waves?


where can you download it at???

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#386250

FromProkaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-19 15:27 -0700
Message-ID<a412f28e-3aba-45d5-a7d8-45be4abb2a6e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#386239
On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 2:22:16 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> what kind of software did they
> used to detect Gravitational Waves?
> 
> 
> where can you download it at???

I've been having lots of fun with this!!!

https://losc.ligo.org/start/

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