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Is Something Missing?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-05-27 10:23 -0700
Last post2016-05-27 17:40 -0700
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  Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 10:23 -0700
    Re: Is Something Missing? Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-27 18:29 +0100
    Re: Is Something Missing? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-27 18:08 +0000
      Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 12:06 -0700
        Re: Is Something Missing? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-27 14:44 -0500
          Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 13:49 -0700
            Re: Is Something Missing? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-27 13:53 -0700
              Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 17:42 -0700
                Re: Is Something Missing? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-27 17:50 -0700
        Re: Is Something Missing? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-27 21:27 +0000
          Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 15:50 -0700
            Re: Is Something Missing? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 00:26 +0000
              Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 17:39 -0700
                Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 18:08 -0700
                  Re: Is Something Missing? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-27 20:12 -0500
                Re: Is Something Missing? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 01:05 +0000
    Re: Is Something Missing? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 13:33 -0500
      Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 12:16 -0700
        Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 22:13 -0700
          Re: Is Something Missing? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-28 07:21 -0500
          Re: Is Something Missing? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-28 05:56 -0700
            Re: Is Something Missing? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-28 05:59 -0700
              Re: Is Something Missing? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-28 06:39 -0700
                Re: Is Something Missing? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-28 07:03 -0700
          Re: Is Something Missing? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 08:40 -0500
            Re: Is Something Missing? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-28 07:07 -0700
            Re: Is Something Missing? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-28 07:14 -0700
            Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-28 13:25 -0700
    Re: Is Something Missing? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-27 14:11 -0500
    Is Something Missing? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-27 12:28 -0700
      Re: Is Something Missing? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-27 17:40 -0700

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#384494

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 05:56 -0700
Message-ID<ed544ee0-e8ba-46e3-9560-c2c97961ea4c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#384479
On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 12:13:16 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > >
> > > On 5/27/16 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?
> > >
> > >    Here is the derivation (from the horse's mouth so to speak).
> > >    http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > 
> > If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes
> > by L/c2.
> > http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > 
> > So, L
> > stands for
> > radiation and radium?
> > 
> > and he changed the L to E, to read E=Mc2..
> > 
> > so it is a formula to make atomic bombs, right?
> > 
> > (if i read it correctly)
> 
> Now, I don't want to go off subject on bombs..
> 
> My question was "What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?"
> 
> Looking at the math in this file...it looks very familiar..
> that math...I've seen it somewhere else...
> 
> Is that Isaics Newton's math????
> http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> 
> 
> Did the math originated from...Newton?

http://images.slideplayer.com/16/4878179/slides/slide_86.jpg


Time is missing 
Kepler's second law ... Area swept per second is equal

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#384495

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 05:59 -0700
Message-ID<6a5947cf-f266-4663-be94-06b2819fa101@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#384494
On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 7:56:35 AM UTC-5, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 12:13:16 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > 
> > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 5/27/16 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?
> > > >
> > > >    Here is the derivation (from the horse's mouth so to speak).
> > > >    http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > > 
> > > If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes
> > > by L/c2.
> > > http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > > 
> > > So, L
> > > stands for
> > > radiation and radium?
> > > 
> > > and he changed the L to E, to read E=Mc2..
> > > 
> > > so it is a formula to make atomic bombs, right?
> > > 
> > > (if i read it correctly)
> > 
> > Now, I don't want to go off subject on bombs..
> > 
> > My question was "What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?"
> > 
> > Looking at the math in this file...it looks very familiar..
> > that math...I've seen it somewhere else...
> > 
> > Is that Isaics Newton's math????
> > http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > 
> > 
> > Did the math originated from...Newton?
> 
> http://images.slideplayer.com/16/4878179/slides/slide_86.jpg
> 
> 
> Time is missing 
> Kepler's second law ... Area swept per second is equal

velocity times radius = c^2

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#384500

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 06:39 -0700
Message-ID<19b042a9-310e-45f2-8dec-a4f1e8f9208e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#384495
On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 7:59:46 AM UTC-5, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 7:56:35 AM UTC-5, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 12:13:16 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/27/16 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?
> > > > >
> > > > >    Here is the derivation (from the horse's mouth so to speak).
> > > > >    http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > > > 
> > > > If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes
> > > > by L/c2.
> > > > http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > > > 
> > > > So, L
> > > > stands for
> > > > radiation and radium?
> > > > 
> > > > and he changed the L to E, to read E=Mc2..
> > > > 
> > > > so it is a formula to make atomic bombs, right?
> > > > 
> > > > (if i read it correctly)
> > > 
> > > Now, I don't want to go off subject on bombs..
> > > 
> > > My question was "What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?"
> > > 
> > > Looking at the math in this file...it looks very familiar..
> > > that math...I've seen it somewhere else...
> > > 
> > > Is that Isaics Newton's math????
> > > http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Did the math originated from...Newton?
> > 
> > http://images.slideplayer.com/16/4878179/slides/slide_86.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > Time is missing 
> > Kepler's second law ... Area swept per second is equal
> 
> velocity times radius = c^2

http://i67.tinypic.com/2n8vpcw.jpg

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#384503

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 07:03 -0700
Message-ID<8095667e-d54f-440b-9610-4444dd9a15a1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#384500
On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 8:39:16 AM UTC-5, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 7:59:46 AM UTC-5, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 7:56:35 AM UTC-5, David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> > > On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 12:13:16 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/27/16 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Here is the derivation (from the horse's mouth so to speak).
> > > > > >    http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > > > > 
> > > > > If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes
> > > > > by L/c2.
> > > > > http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, L
> > > > > stands for
> > > > > radiation and radium?
> > > > > 
> > > > > and he changed the L to E, to read E=Mc2..
> > > > > 
> > > > > so it is a formula to make atomic bombs, right?
> > > > > 
> > > > > (if i read it correctly)
> > > > 
> > > > Now, I don't want to go off subject on bombs..
> > > > 
> > > > My question was "What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?"
> > > > 
> > > > Looking at the math in this file...it looks very familiar..
> > > > that math...I've seen it somewhere else...
> > > > 
> > > > Is that Isaics Newton's math????
> > > > http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Did the math originated from...Newton?
> > > 
> > > http://images.slideplayer.com/16/4878179/slides/slide_86.jpg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Time is missing 
> > > Kepler's second law ... Area swept per second is equal
> > 
> > velocity times radius = c^2
> 
> http://i67.tinypic.com/2n8vpcw.jpg

https://goo.gl/photos/4aEKCuavDZaysvhM9

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#384501

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 08:40 -0500
Message-ID<gY2dncG-L9d9AtTKnZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#384479
On 5/28/16 12:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> My question was "What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?"



   Here is the derivation (from the horse's mouth so to speak).
   http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

   More: Why Does E=mc2?: (And Why Should We Care?)
   http://www.amazon.com/Why-Does-mc2-Should-Care/dp/0306818760

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#384504

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 07:07 -0700
Message-ID<a7c781dc-7c6b-4ab4-9e0e-698d1f6f3a7a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#384501
On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 8:40:50 AM UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/28/16 12:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > My question was "What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?"
> 
> 
> 
>    Here is the derivation (from the horse's mouth so to speak).
>    http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> 


https://goo.gl/photos/hcY5i2it5rgEcWnw8

https://goo.gl/photos/CPapv9gwF9g2yZvYA

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#384505

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 07:14 -0700
Message-ID<0cc688a9-d8ed-4bcb-8056-7fb0c3560740@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#384501
On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 8:40:50 AM UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/28/16 12:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > My question was "What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?"
> 
> 
> 
>    Here is the derivation (from the horse's mouth so to speak).
>    http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> 

(2 * pi) / (1 / (1 - (0.5^0.25))) =0.99967730599


1 / (((2 * pi) / (1 / (1 - (0.5^0.25)))) * 50 * c) = 6.67343538 × 10^-11

(2pi Modulo 200 (51) (99))

https://youtu.be/qhbuKbxJsk8?t=8m56s

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#384515

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-28 13:25 -0700
Message-ID<5749FEC6.4733@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#384501
Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 5/28/16 12:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > My question was "What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?"
> 
>    Here is the derivation (from the horse's mouth so to speak).
>    http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> 
>    More: Why Does E=mc2?: (And Why Should We Care?)
>    http://www.amazon.com/Why-Does-mc2-Should-Care/dp/0306818760


wat is amazon?


Don't you know I have a Barnes and Noble gift card I still cannot use?

http://www.pdf-archive.com/2014/07/25/why-does-e-mc/why-does-e-mc.pdf



I guess Sam you don't know How To Do A Google Search.



You're still on what they used to call...the World Wide Web.


Throw away that book for dummies series...

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#384436

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-05-27 14:11 -0500
Message-ID<nia66h$1g7t$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#384420
On 5/27/2016 12:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> I'm not good at math..
>
> but when I see this:
>
> E=Mc2
>
>
> it always looks like something is missing.
>
> What exactly is E=Mc2? Is it math?


you have "Edward Equal Mic-two'ie"

try this real maths equation;

E = m * c^2


>
>
> What I mean is...
>
> there's usually a bunch of numbers
> on a blackboard...and it ends with the answer.

but.....     were you paying attention ?


>
>
> Shouldn't there be a bunch of numbers that
> lead to E=Mc2?

either in front or in back,
or before the beginning or after it ends


>
> Where is it?

I don't know,  Did you lose it ?  It should show up around here somewhere...

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#384440

From"David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-27 12:28 -0700
Message-ID<4e06d426-04a0-47b3-be92-67f01c13c56d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#384420
math.. 

but when I see this: 

E=Mc2 


it always looks like something is missing. 

"TIME"

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#384467

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-27 17:40 -0700
Message-ID<5748E905.7E25@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#384440
David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote:
> 
> math..
> 
> but when I see this:
> 
> E=Mc2
> 
> it always looks like something is missing.
> 
> "TIME"


you mean times the speed of light?

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