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What Killed The Martians?

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First post2016-05-19 11:54 -0700
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  What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-19 11:54 -0700
    Re: What Killed The Martians? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 14:59 -0500
      Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-19 13:14 -0700
        Re: What Killed The Martians? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 16:05 -0500
          Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-19 15:08 -0700
            Re: What Killed The Martians? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-19 22:29 +0000
              Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-19 16:15 -0700
                Re: What Killed The Martians? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-20 00:15 +0000
                  Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-19 19:19 -0700
                    Re: What Killed The Martians? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-20 04:57 +0000
                      Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-19 23:28 -0700
                        Re: What Killed The Martians? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-20 16:53 +0000
    Re: What Killed The Martians? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-19 15:09 -0500
    Re: What Killed The Martians? Zephirum <oldsailor62-europe@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-20 07:46 +0100
      Re: What Killed The Martians? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 04:09 -0400
        Re: What Killed The Martians? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-05-20 18:38 -0400
          Re: What Killed The Martians? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-05-20 17:11 -0700
            Re: What Killed The Martians? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-05-20 18:53 -0700
          Re: What Killed The Martians? Zephirum <oldsailor62-europe@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-21 08:43 +0100
          Re: What Killed The Martians? leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2016-05-21 03:34 -0500
            Re: What Killed The Martians? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 07:35 -0400
        Re: What Killed The Martians? Zephirum <oldsailor62-europe@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-21 08:16 +0100
      Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-20 09:40 -0700
        Re: What Killed The Martians? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 12:27 -0500
          Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-20 10:51 -0700
            Re: What Killed The Martians? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-05-22 06:52 +0200
              Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-22 15:36 -0700
                Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-23 10:31 -0700
          Re: What Killed The Martians? Zephirum <oldsailor62-europe@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-21 10:19 +0100
        Re: What Killed The Martians? Zephirum <oldsailor62-europe@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-21 08:17 +0100
    Re: What Killed The Martians? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-05-21 06:45 +0200
    Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-21 11:54 -0700
    Re: What Killed The Martians? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2016-05-23 09:11 -0700
      Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-23 11:54 -0700
        Re: What Killed The Martians? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2016-05-23 18:18 -0700
          Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-23 21:31 -0700
            Re: What Killed The Martians? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2016-05-24 02:35 -0700
              Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-24 12:20 -0700
                Re: What Killed The Martians? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-24 14:31 -0500
                Starmaker's real problem (was Re: What Killed The Martians? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2016-05-24 10:47 -0700
                  Re: Starmaker's real problem (was Re: What Killed The Martians? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 23:43 -0700
                    Re: Starmaker's real problem (was Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-25 13:45 -0700
                      Re: Starmaker's real problem (was Re: What Killed The Martians? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 15:36 -0700
    What Killed The Martians? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-24 20:23 -0700
      Re: What Killed The Martians? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-25 13:45 -0700
        Re: What Killed The Martians? "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-25 14:23 -0700

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#383879

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-21 07:35 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.31aa1207c4cbc0e498a1b4@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#383875
In article <4OadnTZxvOc8gN3KnZ2dnUU78U2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, 
leif.roar@dimnakorr.com says...
> 
> In rec.arts.sf.written William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com> wrote:
> > In article <MPG.31a890273100c0e298a1a4@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >>
> >> Perhaps the current climate of Mars is the result of the use of
> >> weapons beyond our comprehension.  Or perhaps they were perfectly
> >> happy with the current climate and killed themselves with weapons
> >> beyond our comprehension that had no effect on climate.
> > 
> > Or maybe they're still there.
> > 
> 
> Watching our affairs from the timeless worlds of space and slowly,
> and surely, drawing their plans against us.

You've just hit it--they're areoforming Earth.

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#383871

FromZephirum <oldsailor62-europe@yahoo.com>
Date2016-05-21 08:16 +0100
Message-ID<dqagapFo3tpU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#383823
On 20 May 2016 09:09, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <dq7q6nF7ooqU1@mid.individual.net>, oldsailor62-
> europe@yahoo.com says...
>>
>> On 19 May 2016 19:54, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Let me ask the question first before the questions gets asked...
>>>
>>>
>>> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
>>>
>>   Who says any ever evolved and if they did climate change was what
>> killed them.
>
> You're sure about that are you?
>
No I put it forward as one theory.



-- 
Sailing against the wind.

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#383834

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-20 09:40 -0700
Message-ID<573F3DF3.7408@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383821
Zephirum wrote:
> 
> On 19 May 2016 19:54, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Let me ask the question first before the questions gets asked...
> >
> >
> > What Killed The Martians on Mars?
> >
>   Who says any ever evolved 

I didn't bring up any theories of evolution...
they could have come from someplace else and left.


>and if they did climate change was what
> killed them.


another theory...


don't yous have any original ideas?


I guess "Who says" says it all.

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#383840

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-20 12:27 -0500
Message-ID<GpOdnd6RuPSL1KLKnZ2dnUU7-IGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#383834
On 5/20/16 11:40 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> I didn't bring up any theories of evolution... they could have come
> from someplace else and left.


   Not likely. The escape velocity is 5 km/s on Mars.


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#383841

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-20 10:51 -0700
Message-ID<573F4EB3.40B3@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383840
Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
> On 5/20/16 11:40 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > I didn't bring up any theories of evolution... they could have come
> > from someplace else and left.
> 
>    Not likely. The escape velocity is 5 km/s on Mars.
> 
> --


For example...
if aliens from another planet
were to arrive on our moon..

they would find on the
surface of the moon this photo:
http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/AS16-117-18840.jpg

Would they ask "What happen to the moon people?" Obviously someone came and left..


The problems with yous people in the 'scientific comunity'..is that
your theories are...limited.

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#383933

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-05-22 06:52 +0200
Message-ID<dqcs9fF811jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#383841
Am 20.05.2016 19:51, schrieb The Starmaker:

>
> For example...
> if aliens from another planet
> were to arrive on our moon..
>
> they would find on the
> surface of the moon this photo:
> http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/AS16-117-18840.jpg
>
> Would they ask "What happen to the moon people?" Obviously someone came and left..
>

Alien visitor of the Moon would not see anything on this picture, since 
photographic emulsions of colour-photos in the 60th have been quickly 
destroyed by uv-rays (which are abundant on the surface of the Moon).

TH

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#383970

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-22 15:36 -0700
Message-ID<57423471.1CB6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383933
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 20.05.2016 19:51, schrieb The Starmaker:
> 
> >
> > For example...
> > if aliens from another planet
> > were to arrive on our moon..
> >
> > they would find on the
> > surface of the moon this photo:
> > http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/AS16-117-18840.jpg
> >
> > Would they ask "What happen to the moon people?" Obviously someone came and left..
> >
> 
> Alien visitor of the Moon would not see anything on this picture, since
> photographic emulsions of colour-photos in the 60th have been quickly
> destroyed by uv-rays (which are abundant on the surface of the Moon).
> 
> TH


It would only destroy the red channel...and get faded by the
sunlight..the blue channel would have details that can still be seen...

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#384020

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-23 10:31 -0700
Message-ID<57433E67.AE9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383970
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> > Am 20.05.2016 19:51, schrieb The Starmaker:
> >
> > >
> > > For example...
> > > if aliens from another planet
> > > were to arrive on our moon..
> > >
> > > they would find on the
> > > surface of the moon this photo:
> > > http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/AS16-117-18840.jpg
> > >
> > > Would they ask "What happen to the moon people?" Obviously someone came and left..
> > >
> >
> > Alien visitor of the Moon would not see anything on this picture, since
> > photographic emulsions of colour-photos in the 60th have been quickly
> > destroyed by uv-rays (which are abundant on the surface of the Moon).
> >
> > TH
> 
> It would only destroy the red channel...and get faded by the
> sunlight..the blue channel would have details that can still be seen...


futhermore...they would find a paper card inclosed in a cellophane
bag...what in moon could have caused?

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#383876

FromZephirum <oldsailor62-europe@yahoo.com>
Date2016-05-21 10:19 +0100
Message-ID<dqangvFpi5oU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#383840
On 20 May 2016 18:27, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 5/20/16 11:40 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> I didn't bring up any theories of evolution... they could have come
>> from someplace else and left.
>
>
>   Not likely. The escape velocity is 5 km/s on Mars.
>
>
Don't confuse the poor soul with facts...

-- 
Sailing against the wind.

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#383872

FromZephirum <oldsailor62-europe@yahoo.com>
Date2016-05-21 08:17 +0100
Message-ID<dqagd4Fo3tpU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#383834
On 20 May 2016 17:40, The Starmaker wrote:
> Zephirum wrote:
>>
>> On 19 May 2016 19:54, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Let me ask the question first before the questions gets asked...
>>>
>>>
>>> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
>>>
>>   Who says any ever evolved
>
> I didn't bring up any theories of evolution...
> they could have come from someplace else and left.
>
>
>> and if they did climate change was what
>> killed them.
>
>
> another theory...
>
>
> don't yous have any original ideas?
>
>
> I guess "Who says" says it all.
>
As indeed your attitude says it all about you so goodbye

-- 
Sailing against the wind.

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#383869

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-05-21 06:45 +0200
Message-ID<dqa7fuFmhk4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#383784
Am 19.05.2016 20:54, schrieb The Starmaker:
> Let me ask the question first before the questions gets asked...
>
>
> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
>

Supposed the Mars was inhabited by Marsians, these people would have 
developed civilisations.

So there have been the equivalent to our cultural structures on ancient 
Mars, too, like tribes and states and so forth.

If Marsians had been as aggressive as we believe they were, they fought 
wars upon their ancient oceans. For this they needed ships and to build 
them, they needed wood.

So the Marsians cut down all their own forests, to build ships and all 
the other forests, to prevent the enemy to do so.

Then all the forest were gone.

And then the sun was shining directly onto the ground and heated that 
up. So the ground got bone-dry. Subsequently there was no more other 
vegetation.

Then the atmosphere heated up and also the oceans. This made the water 
evaporate and the atmosphere expand.

Then the atmosphere got blown away by the solar wind.


TH

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#383905

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-21 11:54 -0700
Message-ID<5740AECB.21E6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383784
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Let me ask the question first before the questions gets asked...
> 
> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
> 
> I don't want to know about Monster Tsunamis Rocked Mars Oceans Billions of Years Ago
> 
> http://www.space.com/32917-mars-tsunamis-ancient-oceans.html
> http://www.space.com/28742-ancient-mars-ocean-water-lost.html
> 
> I want to know about
> 
> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
> 
> doesn't anybody care?
> 
> Am I the only one??
> 
> Or are you waiting for NASA to tell you first to wonder and care?
> 
> wat a bunch of sheeps yous are.

I'll tell you what killed the martians...

they got consumed with politics and sex,
and that caused...friction..

which in turn caused atomic bombs.

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#384010

FromDan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>
Date2016-05-23 09:11 -0700
Message-ID<nhva12$5s4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#383784
The Starmaker wrote:
> Let me ask the question first before the questions gets asked...
> 
> 
> What Killed The Martians on Mars?

"I" said me
"With my bow and arrow, I killed the Martians."

(I also killed Cock Robin, Amelia Earhart, Sasquatch, and JFK. And I'm 
working on Jimmy Hoffa.)

-- 
Dan Tilque

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#384025

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-23 11:54 -0700
Message-ID<574351CF.C6A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#384010
Dan Tilque wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Let me ask the question first before the questions gets asked...
> >
> >
> > What Killed The Martians on Mars?
> 
> "I" said me
> "With my bow and arrow, I killed the Martians."
> 
> (I also killed Cock Robin, Amelia Earhart, Sasquatch, and JFK. And I'm
> working on Jimmy Hoffa.)
> 
> --
> Dan Tilque


Isn't the correct...usage,  ""Me" said I"?


'Me' is the body, and "I" is the conscience. So that would mean it is the body
that shot the arrow, not the "I".



"With my bow and arrow,..." 

Here again, it is the "my" that is the body.


me, myself, ...and I.


You people don't even know Who you are or What you are....

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#384044

FromDan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>
Date2016-05-23 18:18 -0700
Message-ID<ni0a24$p5o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#384025
The Starmaker wrote:
> Dan Tilque wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
>> "I" said me
>> "With my bow and arrow, I killed the Martians."
>>
> 
> Isn't the correct...usage,  ""Me" said I"?

<sigh> Literary references are always lost on you. Always.

-- 
Dan Tilque

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#384048

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-23 21:31 -0700
Message-ID<5743D90C.5DF1@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#384044
Dan Tilque wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Dan Tilque wrote:
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
> >> "I" said me
> >> "With my bow and arrow, I killed the Martians."
> >>
> >
> > Isn't the correct...usage,  ""Me" said I"?
> 
> <sigh> Literary references are always lost on you. Always.
> 
> --
> Dan Tilque

I was refering to physics, not science fiction which has it's literary
references inaccurate to the real world.


It's me that killed the martians, not I.


Get the facts straight..


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Dan Tilque wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Let me ask the question first before the questions gets asked...
> > >
> > >
> > > What Killed The Martians on Mars?
> >
> > "I" said me
> > "With my bow and arrow, I killed the Martians."
> >
> > (I also killed Cock Robin, Amelia Earhart, Sasquatch, and JFK. And I'm
> > working on Jimmy Hoffa.)
> >
> > --
> > Dan Tilque
> 
> Isn't the correct...usage,  ""Me" said I"?
> 
> 'Me' is the body, and "I" is the conscience. So that would mean it is the body
> that shot the arrow, not the "I".
> 
> "With my bow and arrow,..."
> 
> Here again, it is the "my" that is the body.
> 
> me, myself, ...and I.
> 
> You people don't even know Who you are or What you are....

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#384051

FromDan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>
Date2016-05-24 02:35 -0700
Message-ID<ni1769$79d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#384048
The Starmaker wrote:
> Dan Tilque wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Dan Tilque wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
>>>> "I" said me
>>>> "With my bow and arrow, I killed the Martians."
>>>>
>>> Isn't the correct...usage,  ""Me" said I"?
>> <sigh> Literary references are always lost on you. Always.
>>
> 
> I was refering to physics, not science fiction which has it's literary
> references inaccurate to the real world.

The reference wasn't exactly science fiction:

http://www.learner.org/jnorth/tm/robin/CockRobinRhyme.html


-- 
Dan Tilque

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#384103

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-24 12:20 -0700
Message-ID<5744A97D.2AC2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#384051
Dan Tilque wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Dan Tilque wrote:
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Dan Tilque wrote:
> >>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
> >>>> "I" said me
> >>>> "With my bow and arrow, I killed the Martians."
> >>>>
> >>> Isn't the correct...usage,  ""Me" said I"?
> >> <sigh> Literary references are always lost on you. Always.
> >>
> >
> > I was refering to physics, not science fiction which has it's literary
> > references inaccurate to the real world.
> 
> The reference wasn't exactly science fiction:
> 
> http://www.learner.org/jnorth/tm/robin/CockRobinRhyme.html
> 
> --
> Dan Tilque


For example...

"I think, therefore I am."

should be

"Me think, therefore I am."

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#384106

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-05-24 14:31 -0500
Message-ID<ni2a6k$kn8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#384103
On 5/24/2016 2:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Dan Tilque wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Dan Tilque wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Dan Tilque wrote:
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
>>>>>> "I" said me
>>>>>> "With my bow and arrow, I killed the Martians."
>>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't the correct...usage,  ""Me" said I"?
>>>> <sigh> Literary references are always lost on you. Always.

>>>
>>> I was refering to physics, not science fiction which has it's literary
>>> references inaccurate to the real world.
>>
>> The reference wasn't exactly science fiction:
>>
>> http://www.learner.org/jnorth/tm/robin/CockRobinRhyme.html
>>
>> --
>> Dan Tilque
>
>
> For example...
>
> "I think, therefore I am."
>
> should be
>
> "Me think, therefore I am."
>

you sound like a Martian,

What do you want to Kill you ?

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#384143 — Starmaker's real problem (was Re: What Killed The Martians?

FromDan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com>
Date2016-05-24 10:47 -0700
SubjectStarmaker's real problem (was Re: What Killed The Martians?
Message-ID<ni325s$o69$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#384103
I think I figured out Starmaker's problem. It's possible others have 
posted this before, but I usually don't read the threads he starts.

He's autistic. As evidence, notice how in the thread below all he can 
pay attention to is my misuse of a pronoun. He's ignored everything else 
(I doubt he even read the link I provided) and just keeps harping on 
that. A sure sign of autism.

The Starmaker wrote:
> Dan Tilque wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Dan Tilque wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Dan Tilque wrote:
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> What Killed The Martians on Mars?
>>>>>> "I" said me
>>>>>> "With my bow and arrow, I killed the Martians."
>>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't the correct...usage,  ""Me" said I"?
>>>> <sigh> Literary references are always lost on you. Always.
>>>>
>>> I was refering to physics, not science fiction which has it's literary
>>> references inaccurate to the real world.
>> The reference wasn't exactly science fiction:
>>
>> http://www.learner.org/jnorth/tm/robin/CockRobinRhyme.html
> 
> 
> For example...
> 
> "I think, therefore I am."
> 
> should be
> 
> "Me think, therefore I am."


-- 
Dan Tilque

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