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The Machine

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-05-13 14:49 -0700
Last post2016-05-23 13:20 -0700
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  The Machine The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-13 14:49 -0700
    Re: The Machine Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-13 15:08 -0700
      Re: The Machine The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-13 17:30 -0700
        Re: The Machine John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-13 17:58 -0700
        Re: The Machine The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-13 18:37 -0700
        Re: The Machine The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-13 23:08 -0700
          Re: The Machine The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-13 23:10 -0700
    Re: The Machine "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-05-14 09:01 -0400
      Re: The Machine The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-14 11:12 -0700
        Re: The Machine David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-14 12:06 -0700
    Re: The Machine Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 09:36 -0700
      Re: The Machine David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-14 10:55 -0700
    Welcome to The Machine David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-14 10:37 -0700
    Re: The Machine pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-05-18 12:55 -0700
      Re: The Machine The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:31 -0700
        Re: The Machine pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-05-23 12:56 -0700
          Re: The Machine The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-23 13:20 -0700

#383360 — The Machine

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-13 14:49 -0700
SubjectThe Machine
Message-ID<57364BDF.3C23@ix.netcom.com>
This is a very simple question..


Has anybody bothered
to find the machine
that makes it all work?

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#383362

FromGary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com>
Date2016-05-13 15:08 -0700
Message-ID<1e82f06b-7552-4393-9d22-9bc6b106b303@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#383360
On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 3:49:11 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> This is a very simple question..
> 
> 
> Has anybody bothered
> to find the machine
> that makes it all work?
> 
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Yes, it's called "The Matrix"!

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#383374

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-13 17:30 -0700
Message-ID<573671B7.6371@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383362
Gary Harnagel wrote:
> 
> On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 3:49:11 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > This is a very simple question..
> >
> >
> > Has anybody bothered
> > to find the machine
> > that makes it all work?
> >
---
> 
> Yes, it's called "The Matrix"!


I'm not talking about 'guessing', ...

I wrote "find"  "to find"

"to find the machine"...


meaning...to find it's existence.



I'm pretty sure it's out there somewhere...did anybody 'bothered' to look??


I'm not talking about searching for 'ice water', or flying saucers...


I'm talking about where the machine is...



I'm not talking about philosophy or science fiction...I'm talking about...reality.

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#383378

FromJohn Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com>
Date2016-05-13 17:58 -0700
Message-ID<ef57aa5c-d80c-4632-8ed8-fbec7291bbbc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#383374
On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 7:30:36 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > 
> > On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 3:49:11 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a very simple question..
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anybody bothered
> > > to find the machine
> > > that makes it all work?
> > >
> ---
> > 
> > Yes, it's called "The Matrix"!
> 
> 
> I'm not talking about 'guessing', ...
> 
> I wrote "find"  "to find"
> 
> "to find the machine"...
> 
> 
> meaning...to find it's existence.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's out there somewhere...did anybody 'bothered' to look??
> 
> 
> I'm not talking about searching for 'ice water', or flying saucers...
> 
> 
> I'm talking about where the machine is...
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not talking about philosophy or science fiction...I'm talking about...reality.

This is a good question.

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#383383

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-13 18:37 -0700
Message-ID<57368168.1CA5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383374
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 3:49:11 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a very simple question..
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anybody bothered
> > > to find the machine
> > > that makes it all work?
> > >
> ---
> >
> > Yes, it's called "The Matrix"!
> 
> I'm not talking about 'guessing', ...
> 
> I wrote "find"  "to find"
> 
> "to find the machine"...
> 
> meaning...to find it's existence.
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's out there somewhere...did anybody 'bothered' to look??
> 
> I'm not talking about searching for 'ice water', or flying saucers...
> 
> I'm talking about where the machine is...
> 
> I'm not talking about philosophy or science fiction...I'm talking about...reality.


I'm sorry, I wrote 'ice water', i meant to write 'water ice'...(that's wat you people call it, right?)

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#383398

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-13 23:08 -0700
Message-ID<5736C0CC.FE1@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383374
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Gary Harnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 3:49:11 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a very simple question..
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anybody bothered
> > > to find the machine
> > > that makes it all work?
> > >
> ---
> >
> > Yes, it's called "The Matrix"!
> 
> I'm not talking about 'guessing', ...
> 
> I wrote "find"  "to find"
> 
> "to find the machine"...
> 
> meaning...to find it's existence.
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's out there somewhere...did anybody 'bothered' to look??
> 
> I'm not talking about searching for 'ice water', or flying saucers...
> 
> I'm talking about where the machine is...
> 
> I'm not talking about philosophy or science fiction...I'm talking about...reality.


Let me give you an example just in case you don't understand...


right now there are people
upside down on the other
side of the world...

i'm not talking about that stuff
that makes them stick their feet to 
the ground and their heads in the air...

i,m talking about the machine that
creates the sticking process.

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#383399

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-13 23:10 -0700
Message-ID<5736C13F.1516@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383398
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Gary Harnagel wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 3:49:11 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is a very simple question..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anybody bothered
> > > > to find the machine
> > > > that makes it all work?
> > > >
> > ---
> > >
> > > Yes, it's called "The Matrix"!
> >
> > I'm not talking about 'guessing', ...
> >
> > I wrote "find"  "to find"
> >
> > "to find the machine"...
> >
> > meaning...to find it's existence.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure it's out there somewhere...did anybody 'bothered' to look??
> >
> > I'm not talking about searching for 'ice water', or flying saucers...
> >
> > I'm talking about where the machine is...
> >
> > I'm not talking about philosophy or science fiction...I'm talking about...reality.
> 
> Let me give you an example just in case you don't understand...
> 
> right now there are people
> upside down on the other
> side of the world...
> 
> i'm not talking about that stuff
> that makes them stick their feet to
> the ground and their heads in the air...
> 
> i,m talking about the machine that
> creates the sticking process.


what did Isacicc Newton say about the machines that stick people to the
ground?

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#383405

From"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com>
Date2016-05-14 09:01 -0400
Message-ID<nh77cq$mi6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#383360
On 5/13/16 5:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> This is a very simple question..
>
>
> Has anybody bothered
> to find the machine
> that makes it all work?


	Welcome my son
	Welcome to the machine.
	Where have you been?
	It's all right, we know where you've been...


-- 
                      Sea Wasp
                        /^\
                        ;;;	
Website: http://www.grandcentralarena.com  Blog: 
http://seawasp.livejournal.com

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#383429

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-14 11:12 -0700
Message-ID<57376A76.600E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383405
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> 
> On 5/13/16 5:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > This is a very simple question..
> >
> >
> > Has anybody bothered
> > to find the machine
> > that makes it all work?
> 
>         Welcome my son
>         Welcome to the machine.
>         Where have you been?
>         It's all right, we know where you've been...
> 
> --
>                       Sea Wasp
>                         /^\
>                         ;;;
> Website: http://www.grandcentralarena.com  Blog:
> http://seawasp.livejournal.com



https://www.youtube.com/v/E91yxk_pT_A&autoplay=1

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#383436

FromDavid Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-14 12:06 -0700
Message-ID<8839b66b-b92b-460e-9a79-99393ff8c326@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#383429
The Starmaker wrote:

> > Has anybody bothered 
> > to find the machine 
> > that makes it all work? 
> 
>         Welcome my son 
>         Welcome to the machine. 
>         Where have you been? 
>         It's all right, we know where you've been... 
> 
> -- 
>                       Sea Wasp 
>                         /^\ 
>                         ;;; 
> Website: http://www.grandcentralarena.com  Blog: 
> http://seawasp.livejournal.com 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E91yxk_pT_A

Timelord Fuller wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt-udg9zQSE

Sudoku Uber-Master level


John Heath wrote:

Einstein,s last notes before passing away in 1955 had to do with doodling with a child's game of geometry and some deeper thoughts on tensors. 

The doodling: 

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/Goodies/Zurich_Notebook/Einstein_puzzle_1.jpg 

The doodling has to do with a square of 8 by 8 for an area of 64 square inches vs a rectangle of 5 by 13 inches for an area of 65 square inches. If one takes an 8 by 8 square and cut squares diagonally as seen in Einstein's notes it is possible to construct a rectangle 5 by 13 with an area of 65 square inches and there in is the rub. As a spoiler alert I will leave to solution to the reader. Hint , I call it the Einstein crack. 

The Koide formula. It predicts the electron , muon and tauon mass alignment with a formula that drips with simplicity yet no one including the wonderful Dr Yoyhio Koide can explain why. It also predicts the charm bottom top quark masses in the same elegant way. The formula itself is 

( a + b + c ) / ( a^.5 + b^.5 + c^.5 )^2 = 2/3 

That formula is as clean as a whistle and it renders the correct5 answer for leptons e , m , t and quarks c , b , t and yet no one knows why ? 

There has to be meaning in this formula that is pointing to the larger picture of particle physics. Having tried to finds this meaning for years I tried a new approach lately out of desperation. The new approach was to convert the Koide formula math to geometry to see if anything can be found there. I will briefly describe the geometry version of the Koide formula. 


( a + b + c ) 
--------------           = 2/3 
( a^.5 + b^.5 + c^.5 )^2 

Top of the Koide: 

3 squares 1 inch by 1 inch for a total area of 3 square inches. 

Divided by the bottom. 

Bottom of the Koide: 

3 squares 1 inch by 1 inch placed side by side for a length of 3 inches raised to ^2 for an area of 9 square inches. 

In short area of 3 little squares on top divided by one big square on the bottom using the length of the 3 squares on top to set the length of the bottom square then square it for the area. 

In this example a = b = c resulting in 1/3 

If a = electron mass , b = muon mass and c = tau mass the result is 2/3 

If a = charm quark mass , b = bottom quark mass and c = top quark mass the result is 2/3 
  
If a + 1 , b = 1 and c = infinity the result is 3/3 or 1 

Entropy is not a bad way to think of a Koide result of 1/3 , 2/3 and 1 as 

1/3 is extreme high extreme entropy and 1 is extreme low entropy. 2/3 would be mid point of entropy that coincides with the sweet spot , mass shell , of our known particles when the Koide formula is applied. 

There was something strangely familiar about this geometry version of the Koide formula that I could not put a finger on. The next day when I woke up I had it . It was the Einstein doodling with the game of geometry just before he past away with area 64 vs area 65. Was he thinking of particle masses? The solution to a 2/3 Koide result is strikingly similar Dr Einstein's drawings. 
    
  

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#383418

FromAlan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-14 09:36 -0700
Message-ID<9ca4cef6-d9e5-445e-bf22-4363ecba72db@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#383360
On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 11:49:11 AM UTC-10, The Starmaker wrote:
> This is a very simple question..
> 
> 
> Has anybody bothered
> to find the machine
> that makes it all work?

Reality 101 : The Machine

Executive Summary

The proton has an internal process called dimension swapping for gravity and expansion. There is a second internal process called traxxion for electromagnetism . Protons consume space and excrete time, radially. That is the linear momentum of free space. 

Summary

Dimensions entering a particle multiply in formulas. A dimension that departs a particle divides in formulas:

p = V/tau = proton volume / 5.1ns

That is the cause of gravity in dimensions 1,2,3,4.

Traxxion inside a proton connects the momentum of gravity with the non-momentum phenomena of electromagnetism in dimensions 5,6,7,8. A Traxxion Ratio is defined: k/G = Coulomb's Constant over Newton's.

Protons emit 3 dimensions of electricity Ex Ey En and consume one magnetyme : Ht

V*k / (G*tau) = Ex Ey En / Ht

En goes to a neutron to neutralized repulsion in nuclei. The Ex and Ey go to an electron, which sends Ht back to the proton. Strict pairing of one proton and one free electron makes magnetic torque because the shape of the electron has a right hand rule shape, matching the proton shape.

See Figures 1, 2, 3, 4

http://fcgravity.blogspot.com/p/the-primitive-force-of-gravity.html

Conclusion:

Gravity Volume Theory has produced a new theory of electromagnetism where magnetism is the expansion of a local pairverse. An electron is like a star and its proton is its whole universe. But the electron star analog only has two space dimensions, not three. The expansion of Ht from an electron follows a hook shape to make magnetic torque on a proton.

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#383427

FromDavid Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-14 10:55 -0700
Message-ID<d229253b-179c-4dc9-a3fd-7137970ff2fa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#383418
Alan Folmsbee wrote:

Reality 101 : The Machine 

Executive Summary 

The proton has an internal process called dimension swapping for gravity and expansion. There is a second internal process called traxxion for electromagnetism . Protons consume space and excrete time, radially. That is the linear momentum of free space. 


Gravity is increasing entropy


3 / (1 + (1 / 1447.6)) = 2.99792903493 


60 - ((((5^0.5) + 1) / 2)^(1 / ((299792458 * (6.67408 * (10^(-11))))^0.5))) = 29.9768698962 


http://i60.tinypic.com/34852zp.jpg 

http://i61.tinypic.com/8yfk0g.jpg 






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#383424 — Welcome to The Machine

FromDavid Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com>
Date2016-05-14 10:37 -0700
SubjectWelcome to The Machine
Message-ID<0c3f8d31-b1cd-416b-8d43-1cabeac89f23@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#383360
Welcome to the machine ........

https://vimeo.com/69439677

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt-udg9zQSE

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#383712

Frompcardinale@volcanomail.com
Date2016-05-18 12:55 -0700
Message-ID<ec9964dc-28a6-4eb7-8fb5-81b95273315f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#383360
On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 2:49:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> This is a very simple question..
> 
> 
> Has anybody bothered
> to find the machine
> that makes it all work?
> 
> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---

It doesn't all work.

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#383733

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-18 17:31 -0700
Message-ID<573D095B.6C92@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#383712
pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 2:49:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > This is a very simple question..
> >
> >
> > Has anybody bothered
> > to find the machine
> > that makes it all work?
> >
> > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
> 
> It doesn't all work.



which part is not working?

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#384028

Frompcardinale@volcanomail.com
Date2016-05-23 12:56 -0700
Message-ID<0a7d74b7-0add-4a42-b03a-616d83cefb07@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#383733
On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 5:30:43 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > 
> > On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 2:49:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > This is a very simple question..
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anybody bothered
> > > to find the machine
> > > that makes it all work?
> > >
> > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
> > 
> > It doesn't all work.
> 
> 
> 
> which part is not working?

Your brain.

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#384030

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-23 13:20 -0700
Message-ID<574365F7.7EE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#384028
pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 5:30:43 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 2:49:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > This is a very simple question..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anybody bothered
> > > > to find the machine
> > > > that makes it all work?
> > > >
> > > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
> > >
> > > It doesn't all work.
> >
> >
> >
> > which part is not working?
> 
> Your brain.

but which part is not working?

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