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  Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 14:52 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-19 16:57 -0500
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 15:38 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-19 17:44 -0500
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 19:20 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 14:39 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 23:56 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-22 12:09 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 15:58 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-20 19:31 +1000
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 11:48 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 12:27 +1000
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:10 -0400
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:26 -0700
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:44 -0400
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 23:11 -0700
                  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 09:32 -0700
                    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 23:47 -0700
                      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-22 05:39 -0700
                        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-22 11:57 -0700
                          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-22 14:20 -0700
                            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 22:55 -0700
                              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-25 05:57 -0700
                                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 23:29 -0700
                                  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 07:26 -0700
                                    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 11:58 -0700
                                      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 13:35 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 15:17 +1000
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 22:56 -0700
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 02:00 -0400
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 20:52 +1000
                  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 11:23 -0400
                    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-23 13:25 +1000
                      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 01:14 -0400
                        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-23 15:32 +1000
                          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 02:19 -0400
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 15:52 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 22:35 -0700
                  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 23:36 -0700
                    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 07:29 -0700
                      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 11:53 -0700
                        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 14:49 -0700
                          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-27 00:07 -0700
                            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 11:08 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:28 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:45 -0400
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 23:18 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-20 03:31 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 11:46 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:31 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:47 -0400
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 00:27 -0700

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#382296

Gary Harnagel wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 12:35:14 AM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The theory of relativity is not about Time
> 
> False.  Special relativity IS about time:
> 
> http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8112.html


My mistake...i forgot, you need explanation because there are more than one theory of relativity, and you
have differculty figuring out which one it is. It's general one, not the special one.

If you do a google search (or in your case a world wide web search)
for the theory of relativity einstein
https://www.google.com/#q=the+theory+of+relativity+einstein

The first one that is on top is...The General Theory of Relativity.

The other one you brought up is called Special Relatvity, but that doesn't count because Time doesn't exist. And spacetime
doesn't exist. So, you need to diregard the first one and focus on the second one. The first one goes in the garbage.

So the question is...


If you put Gravity in a bottle
 and you light a match to it...
 what happens?
 
 Does it turn red or does it turn blue??






The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 21/04/2016 2:10 PM, benj wrote:
> > > > > On 04/20/2016 10:27 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > > >> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>> Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> and that's that!
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> any questions?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> What are you on?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Sylvia.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an
> > > > >> appearance that differs significantly from its reality.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sylvia.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's difficult to attach any meaning to things Starfaker posts, but
> > > > > nevertheless the question is a valid one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you imagine a situation where time is an Illusion? What does that
> > > > > mean. Well, it would mean that in your PERCEPTION events would progress
> > > > > and develop to your perception from the past to the present to the
> > > > > future. But since it's an illusion, it would mean that in truth nothing
> > > > > is changing at all and all events and seeming actions are perpetually
> > > > > fixed and immutable.
> > > >
> > > > Just because one doesn't see the entirety of something doesn't mean it's
> > > > an illusion. At the moment, I can only see the front side of my monitor,
> > > > and part of its supporting base. There's no illusion there either.
> > > >
> > > > Sylvia.
> > >
> > > It's a blurred illusion.
> >
> > okay..
> >
> > so Time is an illusion.
> >
> > Time doesn't exist.
> >
> > The past
> >
> > doesn't exist.
> >
> > The future
> >
> > doesn't exist.
> >
> > That leaves us
> >
> > with the Present.
> >
> > Does the Present exist..now?
> >
> > Here and now?
> >
> > Right here?
> >
> > I'm here right now...
> >
> > where are you at?
> >
> > You're not Here..
> >
> > you're over there!
> >
> > If you say you're here..
> >
> > i say, No..you're over there..
> >
> > you're not here..i'm here.
> >
> > What time is it Now?
> 
> The past doesn't exist
> The future doesn't exist
> The present doesn't exist.
> 
> The theory of relativity is not about Time
> The theory of relativity is not about Space
> The theory of relativity is about Gravity...
> 
> it's about the stuff that holds everything together.
> 
> time doesn't hold everything together and neither does space..cause
> neither one exist.
> 
> So, if you put Gravity in a bottle
> and you light a match to it...
> what happens?
> 
> Does it turn red or does it turn blue??

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#382311

what you people don't understand is...

Einstein made a mistake when he came out with the first
theory of relativity..
he corrected it with the second theory of relativity.

The first one is based on Philosophy..

The second one is based on Physics.


Answer this question...Which theory of relativity is Albert Einstein's greatest work, the first one, or the second one?

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#382330

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> what you people don't understand is...
> 
> Einstein made a mistake when he came out with the first
> theory of relativity..
> he corrected it with the second theory of relativity.
> 
> The first one is based on Philosophy..
> 
> The second one is based on Physics.
> 
> Answer this question...Which theory of relativity is Albert Einstein's greatest work, the first one, or the second one?


tough question, eh?


How about
Which theory of relativity does einstein thoughts go with...the people (philosophy) one or the other one?

"twins paradox"

if a man falls freely, he does not feel his own weight.

“Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.”.



Even Einstein himself would admit Time is an illusion...that would make his first theory...an illusion.


It's possible..that Einstein didn't learn physics until *after* his first theory. He first learn Kant...then learn Newton, right?

Kant is the first theory
Newton is the second theory.



if a man falls freely, he does not *feel* his own weight.


Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it *seems* like a minute.


This is Philosophy, not Physics.


When are you ever going to learn?


The Starmaker




seem
sem/
verb
3rd person present: seems

    give the impression or sensation of being something.



feel
fel/
verb
verb: feel; 3rd person present: feels; past tense: felt; past participle: felt; gerund or present participle: feeling

    
    experience (an emotion or sensation).

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#382409

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > what you people don't understand is...
> >
> > Einstein made a mistake when he came out with the first
> > theory of relativity..
> > he corrected it with the second theory of relativity.
> >
> > The first one is based on Philosophy..
> >
> > The second one is based on Physics.
> >
> > Answer this question...Which theory of relativity is Albert Einstein's greatest work, the first one, or the second one?
> 
> tough question, eh?
> 
> How about
> Which theory of relativity does einstein thoughts go with...the people (philosophy) one or the other one?
> 
> "twins paradox"
> 
> if a man falls freely, he does not feel his own weight.
> 
> “Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.”.
> 
> Even Einstein himself would admit Time is an illusion...that would make his first theory...an illusion.
> 
> It's possible..that Einstein didn't learn physics until *after* his first theory. He first learn Kant...then learn Newton, right?
> 
> Kant is the first theory
> Newton is the second theory.
> 
> if a man falls freely, he does not *feel* his own weight.
> 
> Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it *seems* like a minute.
> 
> This is Philosophy, not Physics.
> 
> When are you ever going to learn?
> 
> The Starmaker
> 
> seem
> sem/
> verb
> 3rd person present: seems
> 
>     give the impression or sensation of being something.
> 
> feel
> fel/
> verb
> verb: feel; 3rd person present: feels; past tense: felt; past participle: felt; gerund or present participle: feeling
> 
> 
>     experience (an emotion or sensation).


Now,after einstein came up with the first theory, it took him ten years
to come up with the second theory...

What was he doing in those ten yers? Probably tryin to learn
physics...and math....finally he came upon, Newton.

What is the connection between Newton and einstein's second theory?

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#382028

Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>
> >> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> >>>
> >>> and that's that!
> >>>
> >>> any questions?
> >>>
> >>
> >> What are you on?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> >
> > Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else?
> >
> 
> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an
> appearance that differs significantly from its reality.
> 
> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question.
> 
> Sylvia.


The reality is...it's an illusion.

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#382032

On 04/21/2016 12:28 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>
>> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> and that's that!
>>>>>
>>>>> any questions?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What are you on?
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else?
>>>
>>
>> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an
>> appearance that differs significantly from its reality.
>>
>> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
>
> The reality is...it's an illusion.
>
The reality, Starfaker, is your intelligence is an illusion.

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#382040

Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>
> >> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> >>>
> >>> and that's that!
> >>>
> >>> any questions?
> >>>
> >>
> >> What are you on?
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> >
> > Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else?
> >
> 
> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an
> appearance that differs significantly from its reality.

So, your name Sylvia differs significantly from its reality...



> 
> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question.
> 
> Sylvia.


If time is an illusion...spacetime is an illusion. You cannot seperate
space from time.


So, space and time don't exist.

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#381993

W dniu wtorek, 19 kwietnia 2016 23:51:40 UTC+2 użytkownik The Starmaker napisał:
> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> 
> and that's that!
> 
> any questions?

No, they're not. You can see an illusion, but
You've never seen time or space.

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#382005

mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> 
> W dniu wtorek, 19 kwietnia 2016 23:51:40 UTC+2 użytkownik The Starmaker napisał:
> > Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> >
> > and that's that!
> >
> > any questions?
> 
> No, they're not. You can see an illusion, but
> You've never seen time or space.


"You can see an illusion"????


per·cep·tion
p?r'sepSH(?)n/
noun
noun: perception; plural noun: perceptions

    the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses.


il·lu·sion
i'lo?oZH?n/
noun
noun: illusion; plural noun: illusions

    a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses.




I'm trying to give physics lessons, but I find myself having to constantly give English lessons...



you guys in the science class skip all the other courses in skool...probably gym too!

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#382029

platopes wrote:
> 
> > > > Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> > > >
> > > > and that's that!
> > > >
> > > > any questions?
> > >
> > > No, they're not. You can see an illusion, but
> > > You've never seen time or space.
> >
> >
> > "You can see an illusion"????
> >
> >
> > per·cep·tion
> > p?r'sepSH(?)n/
> > noun
> > noun: perception; plural noun: perceptions
> >
> >     the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses.
> >
> >
> > il·lu·sion
> > i'lo?oZH?n/
> > noun
> > noun: illusion; plural noun: illusions
> >
> >     a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses.
> >
> 
> What's the difference between "seeing" and "perceiving"?


"the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the
senses."


a blind person can perceiving.

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#382033

On 04/21/2016 12:31 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> platopes wrote:
>>
>>>>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> and that's that!
>>>>>
>>>>> any questions?
>>>>
>>>> No, they're not. You can see an illusion, but
>>>> You've never seen time or space.
>>>
>>>
>>> "You can see an illusion"????
>>>
>>>
>>> per·cep·tion
>>> p?r'sepSH(?)n/
>>> noun
>>> noun: perception; plural noun: perceptions
>>>
>>>      the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses.
>>>
>>>
>>> il·lu·sion
>>> i'lo?oZH?n/
>>> noun
>>> noun: illusion; plural noun: illusions
>>>
>>>      a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses.
>>>
>>
>> What's the difference between "seeing" and "perceiving"?
>
>
> "the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the
> senses."
>
>
> a blind person can perceiving.

Are you REALLY this stooopid? What are you doing trying to post in a 
science newsgroup? The "journalist", "media" and "Trekie" groups are 
over there.

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#382044

Y.Porat wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 12:51:42 AM UTC+3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> >
> > and that's that!
> >
> > any questions?
> ====================================
> time and space are not an illusion
> YET
> **CURVED SPACE TIME ''
> IS A F EN  HARMFUL
> 
> see
> the y Circlon revolutionary idea
> instead !!
> 
> space has no   properties whatsoever
> except hosting mass
> while
> mass is the main 'hero ' of all  physics
> 
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> =====================================


That which you call 'curved spacetime' is actually curved gravity, which is what
the properties of space is made of.

Space is made of little particles smaller than any particles seen on earth.


To say "space has no   properties whatsoever" is just the...illusion.


Just as a fish believes the world it swims in (water) has no properties whatsoever...

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